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Counting carbs/calories is a drag. Obsessive scale stepping is a recipe for despair. If you want to count something, "days on habit" is a much better metric. Checking off days on a calendar would do just fine, but if you do it here you get accountability and support. Here's how. Start a new topic in this forum called (say) "Your Name Daily Check In." Then every N day post a "reply" to that topic as to whether you stayed on habit. A simple "<font color="green">SUCCESS</font>" or "<font color="red">FAILURE</font>" (or your preferred euphemism if that's too harsh) is sufficient, but obviously you're welcome to write more if you want. On S-days just register that you're taking an S-day. You don't have to do this forever, just until you're confident you've built the habit. Feel free to check in weekly or monthly or sporadically instead of daily. Feel free also to track other habits besides No-s (I'm keeping this forum under No-s because that's what the vast majority are using it for). See also my <a href="/habitcal/">HabitCal</a> tool for another more formal (and perhaps complementary) way to track habits.

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Post by lpearlmom » Wed May 25, 2016 10:54 pm

jackn wrote: Above all not in the sense of restriction and the skinny wild goose chase - just when and if it feels like it.

I love the workout-breakfast-shower morning sequence.
Feels right. Feels nourishing in more ways than one.
I guess lots of self-care.

I love the well-paced road so far.
Observe and adjust. Stay in comfort zone.
Don't clench teeth and restrict according to some guru's absolute truth.
Properly-fed bodies should be a no-brainer, should be something we do with ease.
We're made to, after all.
So many gems in this post but these three stood out. I agree about the work out, shower, break routine. Something feels so nice about that.

Really enjoying watching your journey unfold.

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Post by jackn » Thu May 26, 2016 7:01 pm

Thanx a bunch, Kaali.
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Post by jackn » Thu May 26, 2016 7:03 pm

day 65

All's well.

Sleep: 6hours. So-so rested.

During workout, a hiatus occurs in the music, and I find myself waiting for it to pick up.
Fill the void.
How much food have I put away in order to fill the void.
So, turned off the music for breakfast.
The quiet felt divine.
And I thought I needed something in the background.
Something.
Will see.
Sustainable?

For a while now, diminished the quantity of veg I have at one meal.
I serve less and leave some over.
This stems not from an effort of restriction,
but, rather, from recognizing and checking a sense of 'task' to have lots of veg.
This sense of a 'task' is a vestige of a time when I followed a guru
who essentially advocated stuffing yourself with veggies.
I now recognize it as pernicious logic, but it stayed with me for decades.
And I'm sure I could make more headway on that front.

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Post by jackn » Thu May 26, 2016 7:07 pm

lpearlmom wrote: So many gems in this post... I agree about the work out, shower, break routine. Something feels so nice about that.

Really enjoying watching your journey unfold.

Linda :)
Linda, I know, you're intent on having me blush.

About the workout side, I did ask you about your experience, and I'm soon hopping over to check out if it clicked with you.

Unfold?
Give me a break.
I can barely touch my toes.
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Post by lpearlmom » Fri May 27, 2016 1:53 pm

jackn wrote:
lpearlmom wrote:
Linda, I know, you're intent on having me blush.
Well did it work? ;)
jackn wrote:Unfold?
Give me a break.
I can barely touch my toes.
Lol your turn to make me laugh. &#128512;

Have a great day!
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Post by jackn » Fri May 27, 2016 5:27 pm

day 66
All's well.
Sleep: 4 hours. Weak.

Something is going on.
Been eating somewhat less at each meal, and satiating faster.
The 'belly belt' that tells me I've had enough is better heeded.
Food bought waits longer in the fridge.
And I need to buy less.
I don't know whether this is here to stay or a passing thing,
but I'm inclined to believe it's a stable change.
I've seen it take place in the past when I ate mindfully and chewed.

Might have to do with the cumulative experience of no-snacking
and freely choosing at every meal what I'll have.
Could allow the mind to trust that needs will be met.

More likely, however, it seems to me to have to do with
the (quite limited) chewing and mindfulness during meals.
As I said above, I know from experience that
when i chew and pay attention to the eating, I start eating less.

Will see.

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Post by jackn » Fri May 27, 2016 5:29 pm

Thank you, Linda.
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Post by jackn » Sat May 28, 2016 5:14 pm

day 67

Sleep: ?, weak.
No nap in the afternoon. Perhaps all the better for the night.

Lunch was a bread-cake S-meal.
Had two slices fewer of bread - not by restricting, just by not aiming to finish what was served.
Contrary to usual experience, little or no stuffed/bloated feeling.
Might be due to last night's smaller dinner and sausage-raw-veg breakfast this morning.
The latter, I think, is actually modest, though it feels like a feast.
I'm trying to say that it seems like the effect of food does not merely depend on the food itself
- the background of previous eating also comes into play.
Didn't get the usual cloying feeling after two hours or so.
But am peckish as usual. A little full, yet hungry...
- the usual sugar or processed food effect.

Dinner was a rich meal
- in addition to usual veg-starch-protein for dinner,
had another protein serving and another starch serving.
Stopped after about 2/3.
Was it right to have followed my desire and gone on?
I don't know, but given the certain feel of fulness I have now,
a while after dinner, it was right.
I only wonder about maintaining the balance between following desire and eating to appetite.
In any case, I used to go all the way, and on a like meal that was even somewhat bigger.
This is part of the recent work on eating to appetite.
I think it was right, but time will tell.

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Post by jackn » Sun May 29, 2016 6:05 pm

day 68

Sleep: ?, interrupted by hours in the middle, so-so rested

Easy way not to clean plate mechanically: serve only half of planned meal every time
- serve a half; when done, serve a half of what's left, and so on...
Goal isn't not to clean plate, but not to do so mechanically,,
just because it's there.
The renewed serving allows checking anew with your hunger.

At breakfast, for example, this turned out useful.
When I re-served myself for the last time, I thought I should serve all that was left.
But then I thought the better of it.
Though it wasn't much, I still halved it.
And, indeed, in the little time it took to serve anew, I realized this would be enough.
I wouldn't be going for the remainder.
Furthermore, while having the small last serving, it felt a bit like a chore.
That was definitely the end.
And a bit of even this last little serving I had to leave over.
Whatever was left was good food, but no food is good which I eat beyond appetite.
Froze it away.

At lunch, again, about 3/4 of a meal that was smaller to begin with.
By 'smaller' I mean in comparison to the beginning of this journey.
I'd have only meals then, but quite generous ones.
I knew I was having more than needed,
but I guess that's what it took to come to trust that I'd have enough, that I'd be fed.
Then, I cut some meals down somewhat, by taking out, say, one of the garnishes.

Now, with the chewing, the meals are growing smaller yet.
I'm familiar with this from previous times of chewing and mindfulness,
but haven't been able to sustain it in the past.
Two things may allow me to sustain it this time around, however.
First, the habit and the trust built mean I can more calmly part with some of the meal left over.
Then, allowing myself whatever I may feel like having at any point means no inordinate cravings.
Will see.

Also, thinking of getting rid of the usual bread-cake treat-meal.
I can have it, but am somewhat uncomfortable with what goes into it and all that sugar, etc.
I know better than to suppress it.
I was thinking I'd offer myself alternative sweet meals, made with real food, but on the rich side.
This would make for some competition with the cake.
Then, I might genuinely tend towards passing on the cake meal.
Need to explore, but one thing that occurs to me is oats-butter-dry-dates-peanuts / other nuts / coconut.
Or, bread instead of oats.

Dinner: had about half as much as the usual serving.
Had to force myself somewhat at the end, as 'belly belt' feel was loud and clear.
Was fearing not hunger, but having too little simply in terms of
feeding myself properly.
This always happens when I chew properly.
It doesn't feel at all like an effort these days, and it's quite mild compared to the past.
Don't know where this is going.
Wait and see.

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Post by RAWCOOKIE » Sun May 29, 2016 6:27 pm

Seems there's quite a lot going on for you now that you've settled into No S.

One of the things I have felt with No S is that there's not room to eat all the things I want to include in my diet! Fruit for example I am still having with every meal really - I don't want to not have fruit in my diet. I am surprised at how little I really need to eat - and at how large a part eating has played in my life.
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Post by jackn » Mon May 30, 2016 2:07 am

Exactly, raw.
Shedding lots of baggage.
That includes less coffee and less alcohol.

Reassuring to know you're experiencing something similar.

I don't mind not being able to eat as much.
I sometimes wonder whether I simply eat enough.
No hunger, though.
RAWCOOKIE wrote:I am surprised at how little I really need to eat - and at how large a part eating has played in my life.
Bingo.
Early days, though.
And I'm still interested in food and think of my meals, but it is a lot more laid-back.
Feels less like an obsession.

Hey, I might need to get a life.

Thanx for the input.
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Post by e-lyn » Mon May 30, 2016 3:21 am

I learn a lot reading about your No S journey, jackn.

So much of my life has revolved around food; making lists, shopping, meal prep, reading food articles and cookbooks, clipping and organizing recipes, etc...

My oldest son has moved away, my younger sons are done growing and don't need big meals any more. My husband is 50 pounds overweight and I'm working my way through the No S plan. I've streamlined my shopping and food prep accordingly. And I'm astounded by how little food we really need to get by.

I now find myself with quite a bit of extra time on my hands. Today I worked on de-cluttering my garage. I got rid of some more cookbooks. I still enjoy making simple but delicious meals. How many recipes do I need?

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Post by jackn » Mon May 30, 2016 5:11 am

Hey, e-Lyn, kind words and useful input.

It's reassuring to hear, as for example the smaller shopping volume.

I was concerned, but both yourself and Raw pointed out that you guys have the same experience, so feels OK.

I guess part of the freed time for me is filled up with exercise.
Also, some more reading and more rest.

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Post by jackn » Mon May 30, 2016 5:57 pm

day 69
All's well.
Sleep: 6.5 hours, so-so rested.
Third day waking up with a thigh cramps.
Go figure.

While looked forward to breakfast, within two or three bites, was very calm.
Wanted to eat, but no avidity.

At lunch, hungry and tempted by the rich meal prepared.
So, eating more quickly.
Strking how this is self-reinforcing and leads to avid eating.

Also dinner on the bigger side.

As if the chewing habit vanished.
Definitely not calm today, finally.
Even had a thought of two of snacking.
And tempted by going beyond meal served.

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Post by lpearlmom » Mon May 30, 2016 7:47 pm

I have those days too where I'm just a little off. It's okay.

Just a little blip and the fact is you didn't snack. That's where the importance of the habit comes in to play. You don't snack even when you feel that little pull. You don't snack because you just don't snack anymore regardless of mood. Anyway that's the hope.

I noticed you're mixing up your exercise routine a bit. How's that going for you?

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Post by jackn » Tue May 31, 2016 4:07 am

More or less a third each bodyweight, cardio and yoga, each on a different day.
I enjoy it.

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Post by jackn » Tue May 31, 2016 6:25 pm

day 70
All's well.
Sleep: ?, so-so rested

Noticed at breakfast that the 'belly belt' of satiety appeared unexpected.
I think that's the usual case.
Good to know.
Be listening out for it.

Lovely lunch: bread, carrots, dates, peanuts, avocado.
Great, as replaced bread-cake treat-meal.
I like it better, as I'd rather have real food.
And it was definitely a choice by inclination. And proved right.
May still go for the cake at times, but it'll face competition from now on.
Could also have coconut instead of dates, come to think of it.
And other nuts.

At dinner, left some over.
The 'belly belt' of satiety was insurmountable.
Is it that the more I pay attention to it, the more powerful it grows?
And the other way around - easy to be oblivious to when I'd regularly trample it under foot.

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Post by MaggieMae » Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:28 am

Jackn, just popped over to say you're doing great! I enjoy your input on the forum. Your first daily check in mentioned that you were pretty down, even I. a " put". How are you feeling about yourself lately? Day 70 and you're still going strong! That has to make you feel confident.

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MaggieMae wrote:Jackn, just popped over to say you're doing great! I enjoy your input on the forum. Your first daily check in mentioned that you were pretty down, even I. a " put". How are you feeling about yourself lately? Day 70 and you're still going strong! That has to make you feel confident.
I appreciate this input, MaggiMae - the kind words, and the reminder of the beginning.
Was after a binge, and forgot about it by now.


Long story short, feel good and hopeful.
Grateful to Reindhard and to the forum.
Grateful about the journey.

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Post by jackn » Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:17 pm

day 71
All's well.
Sleep: ?, bimodal, so-so rested.

Lunch: had about a half of planned.
Tendency to smaller meals holds.

Dinner: again, smaller.
Overrode 'belly belt' by one or two 'rounds' of eating.
Felt like a vice around my waste within minutes.
Gotta heed.

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Post by RAWCOOKIE » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:37 pm

jackn wrote: Lovely lunch: bread, carrots, dates, peanuts, avocado.
Great, as replaced bread-cake treat-meal.
I like it better, as I'd rather have real food.
And it was definitely a choice by inclination. And proved right.
May still go for the cake at times, but it'll face competition from now on.
This is wonderful - it's almost like we reach a satiation point with the 'treat-meals' like bread-cake - because we know we CAN have them, they lose their thrilling appeal! I love that NOTHING is forbidden on No S.
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Post by jackn » Fri Jun 03, 2016 6:57 am

RAWCOOKIE wrote: we reach a satiation point with the 'treat-meals' like bread-cake - because we know we CAN have them, they lose their thrilling appeal![
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Exactly.
And.
Having had the bread-cake several times, I noticed better what the experience was like.
It's got downsides, too, like, sometimes, a cloying feeling, what with the rich sugar, etc.
And I can notice the reality of the experience of the experience - yes, it's appealing, but nothing like an ultimate fantasy.

Yet, I think a key point here is not offering a flat 'no' to the body's desire.
Suggesting an appealing, genuine alternative allows the body to forgo the junk of its own accord.
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Post by jackn » Fri Jun 03, 2016 6:58 am

day 72

Sleep: 6.5 hours. Quite rested.

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Post by jackn » Fri Jun 03, 2016 7:15 pm

day 73
All's well.
Sleep: <5 hours, bimodal, so-so rested.

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Post by RAWCOOKIE » Fri Jun 03, 2016 7:28 pm

Excellent!

Wishing you a good sleep tonight :wink:
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Post by jackn » Sat Jun 04, 2016 11:36 am

Thanx a bunch, Raw.

Good luck on your own journey.
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Post by cedar » Sat Jun 04, 2016 12:08 pm

Hope you're going well Jackn. :D

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Yes, keeping up, learning and hoping.

Thank you so much, Cedar.
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Post by kaalii » Sat Jun 04, 2016 1:26 pm

jackn wrote: Yet, I think a key point here is not offering a flat 'no' to the body's desire.
Suggesting an appealing, genuine alternative allows the body to forgo the junk of its own accord.
yes! so true!

have a great Sweekend, jackn!
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Post by jackn » Sat Jun 04, 2016 2:08 pm

Hey, Kaali.
Glad, you agree.

Hope you're keeping up.
Enjoy your weekend across the border.
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Post by jackn » Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:25 pm

day 74
All's well.
Sleep: 6.5 hours, so-so rested.

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Post by lpearlmom » Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:13 pm

Glad you're hanging in there. Miss your longer posts but guessing you're just busy!

Have a great weekend!

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Post by jackn » Sun Jun 05, 2016 4:23 am

Hey, Linda.

Nice to see you.

Well, 'busy'...

I don't know.
Just going with the flow.
Talking when inspired.
I guess it's mainly about feeling it's worthwhile.

Good luck with the reflux, with the hectic life, and with your habits.
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Post by lpearlmom » Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:22 am

jackn wrote:
I don't know.
Just going with the flow.
Talking when inspired.
I guess it's mainly about feeling it's worthwhile.
That makes perfect sense to me.
jackn wrote:Good luck with the reflux, with the hectic life, and with your habits.
Thanks for the well wishes. Happy Sunday!

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Post by jackn » Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:08 am

day 75

Sleep: about 6 hours, quite rested.

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Post by LifeisaBlessing » Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:18 pm

Hi jackn (and fellow three-meal NoS-er :)),

Thanks for the nice welcome in my introduction thread!

Since I'm in search of a doable consistent exercise routine (preferably short and easy to fit into my day like the 10K steps), I was wondering if you could share your bodyweight routine? Or if there was a previous post about it, would you please direct me to it? Thank you in advance, and have a great day! :)
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Post by bunsofaluminum » Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:23 pm

hey there. I like your style. Looks like posting here is developing into a habit, too. :) good stuff!

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Post by jackn » Mon Jun 06, 2016 2:32 pm

How kind and encouraging, Bunsof.
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Post by jackn » Mon Jun 06, 2016 3:05 pm

Hi, Lifeisablessing.
Of course.

The bodyweight routine takes me on the order of 50-60', but only because I also go through an ample warm-u and a lengthy cool-down stretch.
Either one, just like the bodyweight stuff, I learnt by Googling.
Not rocket science, and, in time, you get more attentive to form (YTube) and come to understand the exercises better.

So, the bodyweight workout itself follows, but I'd look at videos to get good pointers on form.
My 'routine' has nothing special about it. It's just a relatively well-rounded series of exercises.
And, if I may, I wouldn't stick to anything as my sole workout.
This would spell monotony, unbalanced training and, without meaning to alarm, repetitive stress injury.
The main way I change it up is by practicing three different activities: bodyweight, cardio and yoga.
Much of the time, I simply follow YTube videos.
I browse through them, and pick those that seem promising.
Once I actually do the video, I edit the bookmark to include my assessment, thus setting up a stock of many videos.
As far as bodyweight videos go, the Fitness Blender channel might make for a good start, but you'll find your own, if you choose to.

A key reason to watch instructional videos on individual exercises is that often you get safety guidelines, too.
Essential and to be taken with utmost seriousness, esp by this 58-year-old.

OK, routine.
10 reps each of the following 8 exercises:
* push-ups - 5 pike push-up, 5 diamond push-ups.
* rows - I use a sheet hung on a pull-up bar to do those. Some use the edge of a table, etc. Look up 'bodyweight rows' on YTube, if necessary.
* Squats - 5 supported pistol-squats, 5 slow ones with a hold at the bottom.
* Abs - 5 or 10 leg raises (hanging of a bar). If only 5, 5 boat pose with slow lowering of torso and legs, then rising back to boat.
* Lunges - forward or back, slow and holding the lunge, or single-leg lunges - several variations and easy to find by Googling/YTubing just that on any familiar, classic exercise: lunge variations, etc.
* bridge - 5 single-legged glute bridges, count of 5 (yoga) wheel pose (full bridge).
* Dips - single-legged, on chair.
* side planks - 30 seconds each side, leg and arm raised.

The warm-up is too rich for here, but, in no particular order, includes box jumps, mountain climbers, burpees, single-leg Romanian deadlifts, Turkish get-up, hanging off the bar, back bends (as in yoga locust or others), wall-supported handstand and inchworms.
I mention those as contributing to strength work, rounding up the panel of muscle groups trained and raising heart rate.

Note that the exercises are ordered such that different body parts are working in successive exercises.
You could come up with your own selection and order after a while.
This is shorthand, but I can't really do this in any greater detail here.
And, though you're kind enough to ask me, I'm no expert, and I'd put the time and go to the source.
It's a whole, beautiful and rich world, and the discovery is mind-broadening and fun.
As an example, I've posted my favourite YTube yoga channels on the forum: https://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopi ... urite+yoga

All of this I report with some wistfulness, as, for a week now, I've had pain in my hamstring.
It's persistent and won't go away, and I need to consult.
I'm beginning to dread a long active rest period, though.

Have you begun a daily check-in, by the way?
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Post by jackn » Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:27 pm

day 76

Sleep: about 5.5 hours, quite rested.

Exercise: morning cardio video
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Post by LifeisaBlessing » Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:42 pm

Thank you jackn for the detailed description of your workouts! I'm very impressed with the time you put in. It's definitely given me some ideas; I grew up in the Jane Fonda exercise video era so I have a lot of experience with exercise videos! In recent years, I cut back my formal exercising because, frankly, I was tired of all the exercise-related aches and pains, as well as the frequent colds. Moderating down to meeting 10K steps a day, staying active throughout the day, and getting plenty of sleep has done wonders for my health. I'm hoping to eventually find a strength routine that I'm comfortable with and that I can fit easily into my lifestyle. The days of BeachBody overly involved exercise routines and rotations are over for me lol! :D
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Post by jackn » Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:30 pm

day 77
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Post by RAWCOOKIE » Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:16 am

Hi, hope you had a good sleep - have a great Wednesday! :D
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Post by jackn » Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:42 am

Thanx a lot, Raw.

Good luck to us all.
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Post by jackn » Wed Jun 08, 2016 4:58 pm

day 78

Sleep: <4? hours, not rested.

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Post by jackn » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:43 am

day 79

Sleep: 7 hours, rested.

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Post by jackn » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:07 pm

day 80

Sleep: 7.5 hours, rested.

A small snack between lunch and dinner.

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Post by kaalii » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:41 pm

seems like you are sleeping better, jackn!
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Hey, Kaali.

Thanx for stopping by.

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Post by jackn » Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:28 pm

day 81

Sleep: 2 hours, not rested.

Binge.

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hug x
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Post by jackn » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:53 am

Thank you kindly, Raw.
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Post by jackn » Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:16 pm

day 82

Sleep: 6 hours, quite rested.

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Post by RAWCOOKIE » Sun Jun 12, 2016 7:25 pm

what's going on, Jack? no exercise for a week? not like you....... are you feeling low I wonder

go roll out your yoga mat mate

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Post by jackn » Sun Jun 12, 2016 7:44 pm

Thank you, Raw.

Two-week-long pain in my left glute-hamstring.
Don't know what's going on.
Consulting doc, physiotherapist.
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Post by RAWCOOKIE » Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:31 am

ah... :( sorry to hear that and hope you can get some help with it

I'm working on melting the deep tension in my shoulders and neck at the moment - when muscles hurt it is very distracting, to say the least. :cry:

sounds like these are needed - hugs x
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Post by jackn » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:20 am

Hope this muscle tension improves, Raw.
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Post by jackn » Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:22 pm

day 83

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Post by jackn » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:16 pm

day 84

Sleep: 6.5 hours, quite rested.

Binge.

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re: comment on my thread

You are too kind! Thanks.
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Post by RAWCOOKIE » Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:42 am

Is the :( of the leg pain, plus not being able to exercise, the trigger for the binge do you think? Did it start with a chocolate-bread treat-meal?

I'm wishing a sane, calm, happy N day upon you today.......... three meals, warm drinks for solace........

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Thank you, Raw.
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Post by jackn » Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:42 pm

day 85

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Post by bunsofaluminum » Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:11 pm

hey there. Just skimmed thru the last few posts, and find you are hurting... hamstring area? oof.

Did you ever find out what's up? Smart of you to be resting, though.


take care.

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Post by jackn » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:31 pm

Hey, buns.

How nice of you.

I feel good.

Yes, thigh issue still there, but, a miracle took place...

While I was expecting months of recovery given online info, over the last two-three days, things have improved a great deal.
Hurts less, and movement is freer.
I don't bother making a note of it, as it is so negligible in terms of working out, but I have been practicing a curtailed, slow-going version of my bodyweight workout.
And I'm seeing a physiotherapist in two days.

I feel more optimistic about being able to resume exercise within, say, three weeks? Time will tell, but it's so encouraging.

This idle period again taught me how I need the exercise and how it's a communication with the body.

So, going along, one day at a time, and feeling positive.

Again, grateful for your attention, buns. Of aluminum, I mean, of course.
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Post by oolala53 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:59 pm

Hard to work around injuries, but hope physioth. can help and give ideas. Although I hardly ever do what they say on my own.

This is reminding me I want to give a few trainers a try to see if any they can help with little twinges in a shoulder and knee that keep me from going full bore in dance class sometimes. (I did'nt know that until I saw myself on film once.) I"ve been reluctant for a few years to hand my money over, but it's time to gamble again.
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Post by jackn » Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:40 am

Oh, Oolala, shoulder and knee.
Tell me about it.
And thanx for the input.

Took three years to get rid of a shoulder tendinitis, and a vague ghost seems to linger there forever.
Knee comes and goes, and I always tell it, as compassionately as I can, nope, sorry, no scalpels.

Not a month, a week?, goes by without real or minor issues.
Each one gives rise to the fear of 'That's it, won't be able to... anymore'.

I think this state of things is here to stay.
58 this summer.
I think it's only going to get worse.
I think age has also brought about peace and joy, and, on balance, I'm much happier, and grateful.
I think the young have a much harder time.

I try to be careful and abide by limits, but I do find it hard and am often tempted to go further than I perhaps ought to.
Hard to know.
And the pleasure of physical activity was a late bloomer's discovery for me.
When I did it like in my early forties, it was the whole food-intake-energy-expenditure (expletive deleted) mindset.
What misery.

Hope the money will be well-spent, oolala, by which I, of course, mainly mean that shoulder and knee will improve. And that dance will be freer.
What's dancing if not free?
But enough is a feast, ain't it?!
And we can dance through daily life, can't we?

Dance it away.
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Post by jackn » Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:05 pm

day 86

Sleep: ? hours, quite rested.

After dinner, yet another meal of cake and bread.

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Post by jackn » Fri Jun 17, 2016 7:10 pm

day 87

Sleep: 5.5? hours, not rested.

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Post by jackn » Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:33 pm

day 88

Sleep: 7 hours, quite rested.

Exercise: Half morning bodyweight routine
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Post by RAWCOOKIE » Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:47 pm

Glad to hear you managed to get a restful night.
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Thank you, Raw.
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Post by jackn » Sun Jun 19, 2016 6:09 pm

day 89

Sleep: 4 hours, not rested.

Exercise: Half morning yoga video, a walk in town
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Post by jackn » Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:08 pm

day 90

Sleep: 5.5 hours, so-so rested.

A binge after dinner.

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Post by jackn » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:23 pm

day 91

Sleep: 5.5 hours, so-so rested.

Morning binge.

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Post by RAWCOOKIE » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:28 pm

Just as I was wondering 'where's Jackn?' your post popped up! So - another binge day huh? Is your leg still keeping you down? I don't know if you have shared about your binges anywhere else on these boards, I wish I knew how to offer you support......... Well, hopefully, staying in touch with everyone here will help.

Good luck mon ami!
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Thank you, Raw.
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Post by jackn » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:02 pm

day 92

Sleep: 2.5 hours, so-so rested.

A binge after dinner.

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Post by jackn » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:46 pm

day 93

Sleep: 5 hours, not rested.

Morning binge.

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Post by kaalii » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:08 pm

you are in my thoughts, jackn!
catapulting some sunshine over the border! :)
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Hi, Kaali.

Sunny days.
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Post by jackn » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:09 pm

day 94

Sleep: 7-7.5 hours, quite rested.

After dinner, another meal.
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Post by RAWCOOKIE » Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:41 pm

Your new avatar is amusing........... but, hey, I'm concerned about you. :?

I hope you can relax and enjoy your Sweekend. How's your leg?
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Thank you, Raw.
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Post by jackn » Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:25 pm

day 94

Sleep: 7 hours, quite rested.

Exercise: Half morning bodyweight routine.
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Post by jackn » Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:17 pm

day 95

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Post by RAWCOOKIE » Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:14 pm

95 days!

A calm weekend?

Good luck for the coming week.
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Post by jackn » Mon Jun 27, 2016 4:19 pm

day 96

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Post by jackn » Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:35 pm

day 97

Sleep: ? hours, not rested.

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Post by jackn » Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:47 pm

day 98

Sleep: 5 hours, so-so rested.

Exercise: Half morning bodyweight routine.
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Post by RAWCOOKIE » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:46 pm

Hi! Well done for posting daily - I hope your No S habit is taking hold
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Post by jackn » Fri Jul 01, 2016 2:50 am

day 99

Sleep: 2.5-3 hours, not rested.

At both breakfast and lunch, exceeded pre-set, usual limits.

Exercise: morning walk in town.
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Post by jackn » Fri Jul 01, 2016 3:51 pm

day 100

Sleep: 6 hours, so-so rested.

At breakfast, exceeded pre-set, usual limits.

Exercise: morning half yoga session
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Post by RAWCOOKIE » Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:51 pm

100 Days - brilliant!
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Post by e-lyn » Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:02 pm

Congrats on 100 days!

I hope your sleep difficulties get sorted out in the near future. Sleep deprivation is so miserable! And If I don't get enough rest it makes it so much more difficult to stick to No S.

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Post by jackn » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:15 pm

Yes, e-lyn, you're clearly familiar with the experience.

Thank you kindly for the support and attention.
And I've noticed how supportive you've been to people all around the forum.
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Post by jackn » Sat Jul 02, 2016 5:20 pm

day 101

Sleep: 4.5 hours, not rested.

Copious lunch.

At dinner, exceeded pre-set, usual limits. Overate, a copious meal.

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Post by jackn » Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:52 pm

day 102

Sleep: 5 hours, so-so rested.

At dinner, exceeded pre-set, usual limits.

Exercise: none.
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Post by jackn » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:50 pm

day 103

Sleep: ? hours, not rested.

At breakfast, exceeded pre-set, usual limits.

Exercise: Half morning bodyweight routine.
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Post by jackn » Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:27 pm

day 104

Sleep: 4 hours, not rested.

Binge after dinner.

Exercise: none.
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