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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2016 7:07 pm    Post subject: idontknow's return to No S Reply with quote

Day 1 - success
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2016 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back!
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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Lori - it's good to be back!
Day 2 - also a success. Lunch was split in 2 as I was called to a meeting, but I managed to wait for dinner until 8pm after swimming.

I didn't think I was much of a seconds girl, but that was the hardest part of today - stopping eating after 1 plate of dinner.
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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2016 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is officially 5 days of success. Much easier than I thought it would be - not sure why I've been putting off starting again! I don't want to be over confident though - next week might be much harder...
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2016 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another mainly successful week. Mon to Thursday was fine then Friday was a very stressful work day and my routine was different. One small chocolate led to 'what the hell' and I ate what I wanted for the rest of the day. This was my problem last time I tried no s - once a day is a failure I just keep going.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So since my last check in over 2 weeks ago I've had 2 successful days. I could blame all sorts of things - half term, work stress, days out.....but really I just give in too easily.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wednesday - success
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wednesday - success


Yeah! Take it one day at a time, and build on each success.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Merry Very Happy

Thursday was also a success. Friday was a meal out with a friend so was an s event. A lovely restaurant where it's worth having a treat
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Starting again. I've lost count of the number of times I have failed at this! The time between lunch and dinner is long and the hardest part of the day for me, so this time I"m planning for it by dividing my lunch into 2 parts. I'll eat one part at normal lunchtime and save the yogurt for about 4pm. Not strictly Vanilla No S, but it will be so much better than 'I'll start again tomorrow' or 'WTH- I've failed so I'll eat everything in the cupboard.'
Rereading the No S information the part on responsibility really struck a chord - and not just in regards to eating. I am responsible for what I eat. I'm responsible for my attitude towards everything in my life and I've been blaming my environment and my situation for too long. My weight is the heaviest it's ever been, but this isn't just about losing weight now. It's about taking responsibility and making changes in several areas.
I have committed to the January challenge, but given my propensity to an all or nothing approach I might need to just take things one day at a time. I don't want to give up this time.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back! Very wise of you to focus on the habits, one day at a time. Hang in there!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Amy Very Happy
Monday - success. Tomorrow is back to work so different strategies needed.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tuesday. Success. And the gym too!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wednesday and Thursday - both successes. Wednesday is usually full of food! I have 2 long meetings where food is provided and I usually eat all day. Yesterday I postponed my lunch until late afternoon so didn't eat in either meeting. The same strategy helped today. I can go for a long time between breakfast and lunch, but can't manage for so long between lunch and dinner which is strange.
I am enjoying eating less - I feel sharper, less tired and have more patience. I don't know why I forget that this is a good feeling!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Friday - success. Another late lunch, then gym and late dinner. Seems to be working well for me so far. We'll see. Just doing one day at a time.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

idontknow wrote:
Wednesday and Thursday - both successes. Wednesday is usually full of food! I have 2 long meetings where food is provided and I usually eat all day. Yesterday I postponed my lunch until late afternoon so didn't eat in either meeting. The same strategy helped today. I can go for a long time between breakfast and lunch, but can't manage for so long between lunch and dinner which is strange.
I am enjoying eating less - I feel sharper, less tired and have more patience. I don't know why I forget that this is a good feeling!



I am the same way. In between lunch and dinner is by far the hardest time for me to resist snacking. Most of the time it is not even real hunger. I usually have very strong cravings. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woo hoo! Way to go! Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Friday - success. Another late lunch, then gym and late dinner. Seems to be working well for me so far. We'll see. Just doing one day at a time.


Awesome! One day at a time, yes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the support everyone!
The weekend was fairly sane - I stuck to 3 meals on Saturday, although we went out for dinner and had a starter as well as a main. Sunday was a bit more snacky but not much - definitely not over the top.

Monday - success although it was hard at times. I give out chocolate biscuits to my duty team on Mondays and it was very hard to resist eating one, but I managed!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tuesday - success.
One week under my belt now. I haven't lost any weight this week, but that's ok - it's the first week and I have stuck to No S every day.
Not eating sugar or huge meals means I'm not bloated. My clothes feel better, especially around my middle. I don't feel as overwhelmed or stressed by things at work, and I definitely have more patience. Definitely reasons to keep going.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wednesday - failure. But only a small one. I finished dinner and carried on eating a handful of chips. I could have rationalised it by saying that they would have fit on the plate, but that would not help me to solidify the habit. However, I'm not using this small failure as an excuse to eat everything in the cupboard. I have resisted the usual Wednesday work snacks - a few extra chips aren't going to sabotage me.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thursday - success
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you're smart not to rationalize your red moment. It just complicates things. Also great non-weight related reasons why NoS is working for you. Realizing that I'm better off doing NoS even if I don't lose a single pound is what helped me finally stick to it.

Have a great day!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tuesday - success.
One week under my belt now. I haven't lost any weight this week, but that's ok - it's the first week and I have stuck to No S every day.
Not eating sugar or huge meals means I'm not bloated. My clothes feel better, especially around my middle. I don't feel as overwhelmed or stressed by things at work, and I definitely have more patience. Definitely reasons to keep going.


Great! Your previous No S experience is paying off - our bodies love it when we stick to the habit!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Linda and Rawcookie. I have failed at No S so many times - there really must be some benefits to all that failure Very Happy Seriously though, I know I've failed in the past because of all or nothing thinking so that is what I am really working on this time. Feel free to remind me of this anyone ever!

Friday was a success. Saturday was an uncontrolled S day in terms of sweets and snacks, although probably not as wild as it could have been. It didn't feel good though - made me feel a bit sick. We had a lovely meal out in a Turkish restaurant last night - beautiful food and lots of it.

Today is gym, prep work for the week, cinema to see La La Land and maybe a bit of shopping. I'm going to stick to proper meals today, with a sweet if I want one - I like feeling hungry and don't want to feel like I did yesterday.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monday - fail. Seconds after dinner Sad No snacks or sweets though which are the serious damage for me....
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tuesday - success. Very tricky day at work, but delaying lunch is working well. Gym before dinner. All good.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wednesday - fail. Extra chips after dinner

Thursday - success
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aarrgghh!!!
Friday - fail
Monday - fail
Tuesday - fail
Wednesday - fail
Thursday - fail

What's going on? I was doing ok and now have fallen off the wagon completely.
I think I need to be stricter at weekends - a return to the former ways of eating makes it hard to start again on Mondays.
When I'm tired it's harder not to eat. This week has been hard at work - very busy and redundancy announcement. I've noticed that when I'm tired it's harder to resist food.
Friday will be a success and the weekend will be controlled.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Friday - success. Back on track
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good for you for getting back on track.

I found Mondays really hard for the first 2-3 months, but honestly, once you get past that, I usually now find Mondays are a relief (it feels good to get back on track).

You can do this!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good job, getting back on track for Friday.

Does it help to think of a "stumble" in this analogy?

If you are driving along, and your front wheel drifts onto the shoulder, do you correct and continue driving? Sure! Anyone's wheel can drift, but getting back on the road means correcting mildly and carrying on. A driver who corrects by going in the ditch every time the tire goes on the shoulder would be in a world of hurt.

I don't know if that helps or not. It has made a big difference to me in my lifetime.

anyway, I think it's terrific that you made Friday a green day, and I want to encourage you for Monday...You can do this!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you so much Merry and Bunso. I love that analogy of a correction in direction. I've never thought of it like that before and will definitely keep that in mind.

Monday - success. No reason why Tuesday won't be. I've managed until now and just have dinner to go.
I've been using my Misfit Shine since the 2nd January. I've met my goal of 1000 points every day - which is about 10 000 steps. Overall that's 128.4 miles!
I've also been tracking my weight by logging every day.
January - average weight - 165lbs. Highest - 166.6lbs. Lowest - 163 lbs.

So that's my benchmark. In February I'm going to carry on reaching 1000 points each day. I can't imagine not doing it now. I'm also going to add a daily 15 minute yoga habit. I can do that for 28 days!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The week at a glance:
Monday - success
Tuesday - success
Wednesday - fail
Thursday - success
Friday - fail

The fails weren't huge but were unnecessary. One was because of an emotional response and tiredness, the other was because we were at ice hockey and eating sweets.
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The week was going so well! I succeeded until Thursday evening - that was a small fail. Friday was a larger fail with too many sweet things that made me feel a bit sick. Both fails started due to pressure from others - not from myself. I would have been happy not to eat extra things. I will ponder strategies for this.
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Disaster this week! Half term, so I've been at home, out with friends and family, and food rules/exercise have fallen by the wayside.
I'm going to London for the weekend so will do lots of walking but eating may be haphazard.
Since the Christmas holidays I've followed No S at work more or less successfully. I've had occasional days where I've had small fails, but I feel confident about my ability to succeed at work. I realised this week that I don't feel like that when I'm at home, which may be because this is where I spend S days. The holidays have made me realise that I need to think about home routines so I don't fall into this trap again. That may mean putting some rules in place at weekends - I don't want to wait for the next holidays to practise this.
Time to think....
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Have you thought? Are things going well? You said in this last post that you didn't want to wait for the next holidays to practice this. I agree! A couple of good months left before the flurry.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for checking on me, Oolala Very Happy
I do a lot of thinking, but there's not much action. No S is in my thoughts every day as the basis for eating habits. Some days I'm successful, but more often than not I choose to fail. I know what I need to do, I know I will NOT go back to WW, calorie count, or follow any other restrictive diet plan. I know that No S is the only way of eating I will ever be prepared to follow but it often feels just too hard.
I have been on and off this site for a few years, and I was very successful a few years ago, but can't seem to regain that determination to keep at it.
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It seems we all could use a stirring half time speech from a coach to motivate us to stay the course, or Win One for the Gipper. For people not familiar with American Football, I'm referring to Knute Rockne's stirring half-time speech to his players at Notre Dame. Maybe we need Reinhard or Tony Robbins(Motivational speaker) to come into our home and give us the motivation to not snack, or have an extra serving, or eat a whole pack of Oreo's when it's going badly with NoS.
Self motivation to stay on NoS is difficult for a lot of us, guessing 90% but who knows? Good to see you posting and relating to a problem that we all face.
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If I may, and I'm sorry if I've said this before, but I avoided doing something I had read about years earlier, but it made a big difference when I started. I made a list of the benefits I believed I would get from moderate eating (not weight loss). Only a fraction of the reasons were appearance-based. (I've been vindicated on that by research that shows that people who maintain weight loss rarely do it just because of vanity. They just plain feel better! If they don't, the changes rarely stick.) I read that thing hundreds of times in the first six months. I figured my overeating thought patterns had had a lot more practice than that, so it was logical that I needed new propaganda.

I didn't write it down then, but I realize I also had very clearly in my mind that my random eating was making me miserable. I noted how much of the day I felt lousy. I had to find a way to decrease it, and I knew that several years of eating five times a day had done nothing to prevent me from also compulsively overeating modern manufactured foods. I accepted that there would be sometimes that I would want food enough that I would feel like I would explode if I didn't get it, and that I would still have to say no. But I also had learned that if I could get over those humps, things would get better MOST of the time. I recommend now that people also make a list of what they truly want to avoid from overeating, not just what someone tells them they should want to avoid. Read that a lot, too.

The list idea I finally surrendered to using the Beck weight loss workbook but avoiding all her recommendations for calorie limits and recording calories. I used a lot of her talking-back-to-eating whims to keep me on track between meals.

Changing eating habits, as Reinhard reports at times, is mostly a mental activity. I believe also increasing the quality of food helps work hand-in-glove with that, but the thinking often has to come first to get the person to even work on food. And before that, fasting between meals. They all work together, but rarely overnight.

When you really get that how you're living at the effect of random eating whims is more misery-inducing, spirit-sucking than sticking to Vanilla or something near to it, it will get easier to bear the difficult moments, i.e., winning one for the Gipper (the Gipper was a star athlete who fell ill and died, but asked his coach Knute Rockne to tell the players at down times, to win one for the Gipper.) This time, the Gipper is YOU.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you to both of you for your support and good wishes.
Oolala - you are so very wise. I have made my lists of the benefits I will gain from moderate eating, and what I want to avoid by not overeating. And you are absolutely right - most of that is not about weight loss. I have the Judith Beck workbook somewhere - I will dig it out.

I have been observing my eating habits over the last week. I know that a good breakfast is key to good habits for the day. I often don't eat dinner until 9pm or later but delaying lunch until 3pm-ish is fairly easy and means I can get through to dinner time without snacking. Eating sweet things makes me bad-tempered and I wake up feeling horrible.

I want to change my habits and I know I need to learn to manage discomfort. Marking a day red leads to 'what the hell' eating, so I struggle with counting red/green days. Is this something I need to learn to do, or can I just focus on achieving the habit without measuring it?

Thank you again for your help and support. Smile
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Habitcal is not necessary but habit theory finds that having SOME way to acknowledge success at least is useful. A friend on another site would add a pleasant icon each day she kept her strategy. She did this with 4-day wins, and it led to some pretty good longterm habits. She used to binge AND purge. Has purged only once in years, and binged only a handful of times in the same period. And works out darn consistently.

Before you give up on red and green, consider adding another Habitcal calendar for keeping track of NOT succumbing to WTH if you fail. Days are blank if not needed, green if needed (you failed but stopped at the small indiscretion) or red if a big fail. Yeah, that's TWO reds, but maybe that's more incentive not to take the first bite? It's not good to heap guilt on failures but it IS good to want to AVOID heaping guilt. Ironic, but true.
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