Everyday Systems
Home * Discussion Home
No S Diet * Shovelglove * Urban Ranger
HabitCal
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterJoin! It's free and easy. 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

2017 One year No S Challenge
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Everyday Systems Forum Index -> No S Diet General Discussion
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Elizabeth50



Joined: 08 Feb 2016
Posts: 159

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaggieMae, as you pass by the break table, put both hands to the side of your face so your peripheral vision doesn't catch it. lol See no evil! Wink

It's true that we are reducing calories with No S, but it sure is nice to not have to count them. Much better life. Why did I ever leave? Wink
_________________
"It's Not Easy Being Green" ~ Kermit the Frog

Final No S Restart on 2/27/17

02/22/17 - 225
03/06/17 - 223.8
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
oolala53



Joined: 06 Oct 2008
Posts: 7002
Location: San Diego, CA USA

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't tell it has "worked for her" until she has kept the weight off for two years, IMHO. An eaating plan should help the person be content with eating less for the long run. You can't see the long run in a few weeks or months.

Some people are able to use calorie tracking to get an idea of how much food they can be content with and continue with that level, but not many.
they don't have to track forever. I learned about many satisfying meals that I have used on No S during a stint at WW years before.

Besides, why do you have to track calories just to put a little less on your plate, if quicker loss is that important?

On the other hand, there is nothing to say you CAN'T track. Just tracking the calories without determining a preset limit has been shown to have people reduce their eating over time. I don't think it has a lot of adherents, though. And if you would tend to start freaking out over the totals, well...

Is there any reason to believe you'd be able to stick with such a practice? Would weight loss be enough of a reward? What about during times when weight loss slows? Would it still be worth it? If not, don't even start. A good plan has to feel fair even when there is no weight loss. If people are doing No S ONLY to lose weight, their prognosis is likely not very good.

In any case, there's plenty of time down the road to decide to add calorie tracking in. It's WAY too early for that.
_________________
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 7 years & counting
Age 63 SBMI Jan/10-30.8 Jan/12-26.8 Mar/13-24.9 Dec/15 24.8 held steady +/- 8-lb. for two years Mar/17 22.8

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Merry



Joined: 22 Sep 2008
Posts: 1113

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaggieMae wrote:
Help!!! One of my friends at work( who I only work with once or twice a month) came in today looking amazing. She said she's lost 15 pounds tracking calories on my fitness pal. Noooooo! That's always what lures me away from no S! I'm hyperventilating. Ok, not really. Haha. Just wanted to share on here that I am tempted because she looks great . I'm going to drink my water and look forward to lunch.


Been there done that. I lost weight calorie counting. Then I gained it back and more because it's such a pain to count calories. The people I know in person who have calorie counted have all regained the weight plus more too. Don't focus on how the plans help people lose, because there are tons of plans out there that can help you lose weight for however long you are willing and able to stick with them. Focus on whether those losses are sustainable, whether the plan will make you rebel/rebound and gain it back with interest, whether the plan is something you want to do long term etc... The idea that we can lose weight and then go to eating how we want thinking we'll maintain those losses is a fantasy. Evaluate what you are willing to sustain.
_________________
Homeschool Mom and No S returnee as of Monday, November 30, 2015.

1 year and counting!

26 lbs. down, 37 to go. Slow and steady wins the race.

"Believe conquering sweets is doable." - Oolala
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Merry



Joined: 22 Sep 2008
Posts: 1113

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oolala53 wrote:
You can't tell it has "worked for her" until she has kept the weight off for two years, IMHO. An eaating plan should help the person be content with eating less for the long run. You can't see the long run in a few weeks or months.


Yes, this.
_________________
Homeschool Mom and No S returnee as of Monday, November 30, 2015.

1 year and counting!

26 lbs. down, 37 to go. Slow and steady wins the race.

"Believe conquering sweets is doable." - Oolala
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
kaalii



Joined: 24 Apr 2016
Posts: 606
Location: switzerland

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merry wrote:
oolala53 wrote:
You can't tell it has "worked for her" until she has kept the weight off for two years, IMHO. An eaating plan should help the person be content with eating less for the long run. You can't see the long run in a few weeks or months.


Yes, this.


exactly!!
i am the one who has lost weight through 16:8 IF and calorie counting and was lucky enough to stumble upon noS just when i was getting sooo sick of it and wanted my life back (after about 6 months of maintaining on calorie counting)... and to maintain at the same time, if possible...
and i even lost some more on noS which, even if i wanted to i couldnt do on calorie counting because on low bmi it means eating so little calories... and when sweets are regularly included in that (which calorie counting doesnt regulate at all) it is hard to feed yourself properly to maintain good health, not to mention sanity...

for me it was an eating disorder red flag and i cant say how grateful i am for noS!!

i remember first time coming here was a bit terrifying to let go of calorie counting and i asked how to incorporate it with noS... of course people told me to keep the calorie awareness but the 3 plates will do the trick...
but now i realise it was just a stage in letting go...
3 plates a day really is enough... and hard enough...
and no sweets during the week...
simple, focus on lining up the green days... and not as easy as it sounds...
with side effect of sanity...
and body fat loss, beyond my imagination...

oh and also, when calorie counting i was losing weight with 500 cal/day deficit - that theoretically meant 1 pound per week... in reality very often less because, of course, i would mess up... and eat more sweets than on noS, which in return would make me more hungry and miserable, too... it was slow with lots of little ups and downs... by looking at my weight and body fat chart of the last 2-3 years - since noS im much more stable...

this is maybe too early to say im maintaing succesfully because im also not in it for 2 years or more... but one year of noSing is in april...
the challenge of healty, happy and stable weight loss/maintenance must be long term... that's why i love that we have this thread... long term focus... Smile
_________________
Age:39
BMI: 19.5-18.5-19.2-19.5-19.2-19-19.5-18.8-18.5-18.2
Body Fat %: 20.7-17.6-19.7-18.7-19.7-18.7-17.6-16.6-15.5
in it for maintenance and, more importantly, sanity!!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Elizabeth50



Joined: 08 Feb 2016
Posts: 159

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merry wrote:
Been there done that. I lost weight calorie counting. Then I gained it back and more because it's such a pain to count calories.


Ditto that! Time and time again!
_________________
"It's Not Easy Being Green" ~ Kermit the Frog

Final No S Restart on 2/27/17

02/22/17 - 225
03/06/17 - 223.8
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
eam531



Joined: 08 Jun 2014
Posts: 19
Location: Buffalo, NY

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LifeisaBlessing wrote:
MaggieMae - It's great that your friend found a way to successfully lose weight that works for her! Smile I will say that calorie counting and/or caloric awareness and being on NoS are not necessarily mutually exclusive. I utilized both to reach my goals, and still do to maintain and improve--without feeling like I'm "on a diet." You can't ignore the fact that reducing calories (whether you're actively counting them or not) is the key to weight loss. It's true that NoS is a "normal" way of eating, but in order to effectively lose weight on NoS, you have to reduce the calories you're eating. No way around it!


Oh, I totally agree. But on No S, caloric reduction is pretty darn painless, at least to me--no forbidden foods or tracking intake to anything like the extent that other programs require.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
oolala53



Joined: 06 Oct 2008
Posts: 7002
Location: San Diego, CA USA

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't call it painless for me. Just less painful enough to be worth it. (I add that because I know like me some people's definition of painless could make them think it's not working for them when it is!)
_________________
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 7 years & counting
Age 63 SBMI Jan/10-30.8 Jan/12-26.8 Mar/13-24.9 Dec/15 24.8 held steady +/- 8-lb. for two years Mar/17 22.8

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MaggieMae



Joined: 01 Nov 2015
Posts: 435
Location: Ohio, USA

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, thank you everyone for your insight. So glad I have this thread and forum for support. Kaalii, I think you nailed down my issue and I didn't realize it.... Just the act of letting go of calorie counting is scary. I'm afraid of letting go because I know it works ( when you're doing it). Also, I like calorie counting because I can have sweets every day as long as it fits into my numbers, but...is that really healthy? No. It is not. Especially since I'm one of those people who eat one cookie,and that leads to eating the whole box.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Elizabeth50



Joined: 08 Feb 2016
Posts: 159

PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaggieMae, I rejoined No S just over a year ago and earlier today I was looking back at my posts during that time. I was surprised to see that you had messaged me the day before I made the decision to give up No S, and any kind of dieting at all. Here is part of what you posted on Feb. 18, 2016: "I started back in November, and I've gone back and forth to calorie counting and intermittent fasting. After a few days, I realize that I'm not learning how to have a good relationship with food and I can't log calories every day for the rest of my life."

And here is part of what I posted on Feb. 19, 2016, the day after: "I had another "fail", and I've already had a fail this morning. I think I'm going to take a break from any plan for a while and just live my life. I'm so tired of fighting my weight, which I've done through my whole adult life and here I am at my highest weight ever."

Do you know, it couldn't have been more than a few days afterward, I was back to calorie counting and then intuitive eating..losing, gaining, losing gaining...back and forth, back and forth...until a year later... here I am...and here you are! lol

We've got to be here for a reason. I think it's because we know that this plan really makes sense and it's the way back to sanity. Let's determine no more calorie counting. We can do this! Smile
_________________
"It's Not Easy Being Green" ~ Kermit the Frog

Final No S Restart on 2/27/17

02/22/17 - 225
03/06/17 - 223.8
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Elizabeth50



Joined: 08 Feb 2016
Posts: 159

PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a fail day yesterday, but back on track this morning! I hope everyone else is doing well!
_________________
"It's Not Easy Being Green" ~ Kermit the Frog

Final No S Restart on 2/27/17

02/22/17 - 225
03/06/17 - 223.8
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
heliz



Joined: 06 Feb 2017
Posts: 30
Location: Northern CA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm trying to get back on track too. "Glass ceiling" isn't quite there, but NoS is looking good again.
Slow and steady, slow and steady...
_________________
"Acting like the person I want to be"
Start: 188
Current: 180
Goal: 140
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MaggieMae



Joined: 01 Nov 2015
Posts: 435
Location: Ohio, USA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elizabeth, that's so funny! Let's not give up this time! I had three green days and today was red. Chips and dip are my weakness. Oh well. I'll eat dinner later and get back I. track. Every time I fail, I think about calorie counting to see if I'm still doing ok , staying under my calorie limit to lose weight. But I don't want to live like that.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Elizabeth50



Joined: 08 Feb 2016
Posts: 159

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heliz..I'm with you. Through the week is no problem. I do usually enjoy a drink most evenings just to take the edge off of the day. But, there's something about the weekend that makes me want to relax about it. Wink

MaggieMae, I've had three (counting today) bad days in a row. I still fight with myself about not going back to calorie counting. I know me, and while I can lose weight doing it, I inevitably gain it back and then some. But in the past couple years I haven't even been able to lose any significant amount by counting calories. Lose a few, gain a few..always fighting with the same five pounds, it seems. I really want to make No S work, but sometimes I wonder if I'm EVER going to stick to any one thing. It drives me insane.

But I refuse to give up! Hanging in there with you! Very Happy
_________________
"It's Not Easy Being Green" ~ Kermit the Frog

Final No S Restart on 2/27/17

02/22/17 - 225
03/06/17 - 223.8
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
oolala53



Joined: 06 Oct 2008
Posts: 7002
Location: San Diego, CA USA

PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you need some bolstering, consider visiting the thread called "sticky of stickies." It has tons of good reprogramming support. Then get on with life between your meals.
_________________
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 7 years & counting
Age 63 SBMI Jan/10-30.8 Jan/12-26.8 Mar/13-24.9 Dec/15 24.8 held steady +/- 8-lb. for two years Mar/17 22.8

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
threewhales



Joined: 26 Mar 2011
Posts: 46
Location: Texas

PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see I am not the only one to think perhaps I need to add something to No S to make it work( faster) for me. I was curious about my calorie intake, so I tracked my calories the last few days and I am in well within the perimeter my doctor suggested.
Thank you OOLALA for the suggestion to read the sticky of stickies...heading over there now.
Ok, after reading several stickies. I went back to my copy of the No S book. Bottom line,*faster* is not what I am really after, I long for consistency AND I need add in some exercise. I haven't been doing terrible, but it could certainly be better.
I will say that I been less negative with myself since I started back on No S. Small tiny steps...one day at a time..building a sustainable habit!
_________________
Vanilla No S ReStart 12/26/16

Things should be as simple as possible, but not simpler.
~Albert Einstein
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Elizabeth50



Joined: 08 Feb 2016
Posts: 159

PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThreeWhales, I'm with you on wanting to build consistency.

Oolala, Thank you for the suggestion. I'm going to visit there, too.
_________________
"It's Not Easy Being Green" ~ Kermit the Frog

Final No S Restart on 2/27/17

02/22/17 - 225
03/06/17 - 223.8
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
oolala53



Joined: 06 Oct 2008
Posts: 7002
Location: San Diego, CA USA

PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By calorie counting, do you mean calorie limits? What changes in what goes on your plate do you think you'd make if you limited calories? You'd likely have to decrease SOME dense calories. Nothing is stopping you from experimenting with that concept without counting calories, though unless you are very motivated, it's not advisable to cut them a lot, so it can take awhile to see the effects. But that would give you time to adjust to the decrease. You might get somewhere in three months that would seem like a real sacrifice to do next week.
_________________
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 7 years & counting
Age 63 SBMI Jan/10-30.8 Jan/12-26.8 Mar/13-24.9 Dec/15 24.8 held steady +/- 8-lb. for two years Mar/17 22.8

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
TexArk



Joined: 27 Dec 2008
Posts: 655
Location: Foothills of the Ozarks

PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wanted to stop in and say I am still here for the year. I have been posting on my thread, but I consider myself part of this group of folks who are committed for the long haul in a public way.

I have 4 more days to complete my first 30 days of posting and keeping my habitcal. I think that is the way I am going to refer to my progress. If I have to count something, how about counting days (as well as plates). I have had one red for sweets so far and one red for snacks. Exercise goal is 5 days a week...close but not there yet.

Let's stick together. This is the time to be aware of the temptation to drop out. Don't! You will just come back later and wish you had been here all along.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
oolala53



Joined: 06 Oct 2008
Posts: 7002
Location: San Diego, CA USA

PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for checking in. I wish we could organize a way to reach out to others and keep tabs. Maybe a few of the more involved here, maybe five people, could divvy up the threads so there are subgroups of four or five people and check in a couple of times a month?

But maybe it's just par for the group to whittle itself down.
_________________
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 7 years & counting
Age 63 SBMI Jan/10-30.8 Jan/12-26.8 Mar/13-24.9 Dec/15 24.8 held steady +/- 8-lb. for two years Mar/17 22.8

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Elizabeth50



Joined: 08 Feb 2016
Posts: 159

PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi everyone.

Oolala, Yes I do mean calorie limits when I say counting calories. I know what to do to reduce calories, it's just a matter of doing it. I have been filling my plate with too many dense foods. I've got to start incorporating more vegetables. It's the start of a new week, so I'm going to vow at least two low starch vegetables per day. That probably doesn't sound like a lot, but for me, it's a good beginning. (I've been eating a lot of dense foods because of the fear of not making it to the next meal with no snacks.)

I'll also start checking in here more. I do plan to continue this challenge for the long haul, even though I have been tempted to revert at times. I'm vowing to check in at least once a week here. If you come up with a better solution of how we can all keep in touch, I'm in.

TexArk, I love your determination! WTG on almost reaching your first 30 days. I'm hanging in here with you and the rest of the team, too.

Exercise is turning out to be peppered in for me, as well. It's all according to how my back is feeling. I think I may have to pass on it this morning, but may be feeling stronger in a bit. I think I need to find a sledgehammer with less weight. I thought eight pounds would be a breeze, but having never been one for exercise, starting out at 53 years old is a challenge.

Here's to a new week!
_________________
"It's Not Easy Being Green" ~ Kermit the Frog

Final No S Restart on 2/27/17

02/22/17 - 225
03/06/17 - 223.8
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
oolala53



Joined: 06 Oct 2008
Posts: 7002
Location: San Diego, CA USA

PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Decreasing dense foods and adding veggies is in effect lowering your calorie limit without having to count them. I think it was fair to load the plates with heftier food before. Perhaps now you can begin being willing to brave feeling some desire or hunger. You don't HAVE to do it every meal. this will likely evolve the whole year and maybe even beyond .(It has for me.)
I think you are pretty much on track, if aiming for habit is an important goal for you. We're not even half way into the third month. Exclamation
_________________
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 7 years & counting
Age 63 SBMI Jan/10-30.8 Jan/12-26.8 Mar/13-24.9 Dec/15 24.8 held steady +/- 8-lb. for two years Mar/17 22.8

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Elizabeth50



Joined: 08 Feb 2016
Posts: 159

PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly, Oolala. I want to get to the point that I embrace the occasional hunger, rather than fear it. Yes, aiming for habit is my main priority. Thank you for your input.
_________________
"It's Not Easy Being Green" ~ Kermit the Frog

Final No S Restart on 2/27/17

02/22/17 - 225
03/06/17 - 223.8
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Merry



Joined: 22 Sep 2008
Posts: 1113

PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still here too. Staying on plan but a harder month with some really tragic deaths by us. So far I've stuck to the plan but find myself wanting to load my plates more since I won't do seconds. Today I even contemplated putting cookies on my plate but didn't end up doing that. I've got cookies saved in my drawer for my next S day and I really don't want to go off plan. But I don't think I'll be losing this month at this rate (and with some vacation days coming up). Just an emotional month...trying to keep that in mind.
_________________
Homeschool Mom and No S returnee as of Monday, November 30, 2015.

1 year and counting!

26 lbs. down, 37 to go. Slow and steady wins the race.

"Believe conquering sweets is doable." - Oolala
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
noni



Joined: 27 Feb 2009
Posts: 477

PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merry, So sorry about the sadness surrounding you. It is very tempting to stuff down sorrow with food. Hang in there, you're doing great.
_________________
"Never go back for seconds. Get it all the first time." - Garfield
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
RAWCOOKIE



Joined: 18 Jun 2015
Posts: 1226
Location: Cornwall, UK

PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it helps, on my emotional days, I add some tacos to my lunch-box, and/or a few dates filled with peanut butter and cocoa powder! A hot chocolate drink (made with just cocoa and creamer - which has a little sugar, but not much) really helps see me through too - a sprinkle of nutmeg makes it special.

Hugs.
_________________
I love Everyday Systems :3

13.6.15 124.25lbs
1.3.17 112.25lbs
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Elizabeth50



Joined: 08 Feb 2016
Posts: 159

PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merry, I'm so sorry for your loss. I know how devastating the death of a loved one can be. Prayers for you and your family.
_________________
"It's Not Easy Being Green" ~ Kermit the Frog

Final No S Restart on 2/27/17

02/22/17 - 225
03/06/17 - 223.8
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
oolala53



Joined: 06 Oct 2008
Posts: 7002
Location: San Diego, CA USA

PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistake
_________________
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 7 years & counting
Age 63 SBMI Jan/10-30.8 Jan/12-26.8 Mar/13-24.9 Dec/15 24.8 held steady +/- 8-lb. for two years Mar/17 22.8

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.


Last edited by oolala53 on Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:59 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MaggieMae



Joined: 01 Nov 2015
Posts: 435
Location: Ohio, USA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merry, I'm sorry that you are having such a horrible month.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
TexArk



Joined: 27 Dec 2008
Posts: 655
Location: Foothills of the Ozarks

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merry,
Sorry to hear of the loss of dear ones. I have found that NoS actually helps at such times because you don't have to think and plan and count. Yes, you may put too much on your plate, but I have found it impossible to work other plans during times of grief because they all take so much mental effort. Then all the wheels come off, weight gain ensues, and then it takes forever to get back on track. That is one of the best things about NoS. No mental effort required. No starting and stopping a diet. But you know all this. Hang on.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MaggieMae



Joined: 01 Nov 2015
Posts: 435
Location: Ohio, USA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys.......I had a breakthrough tonight! I was really, really craving something sweet and it was snowy so I wasjust in a mood to bake something from scratch. I actually managed to have a cup of decaf and not give in. I don't think I've ever resisted that strong urge to eat before. I told myself, what's the worst that Will happen if you don't get that sweet treat?? I found out that nothing happens! I'm still a little in shock.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Merry



Joined: 22 Sep 2008
Posts: 1113

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TexArk wrote:
Merry,
Sorry to hear of the loss of dear ones. I have found that NoS actually helps at such times because you don't have to think and plan and count. Yes, you may put too much on your plate, but I have found it impossible to work other plans during times of grief because they all take so much mental effort. Then all the wheels come off, weight gain ensues, and then it takes forever to get back on track. That is one of the best things about NoS. No mental effort required. No starting and stopping a diet. But you know all this. Hang on.


Thanks everyone--and that's a really good point. I'm sure I'd have dumped a harder plan sometime in the last few weeks!
_________________
Homeschool Mom and No S returnee as of Monday, November 30, 2015.

1 year and counting!

26 lbs. down, 37 to go. Slow and steady wins the race.

"Believe conquering sweets is doable." - Oolala
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Merry



Joined: 22 Sep 2008
Posts: 1113

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaggieMae wrote:
You guys.......I had a breakthrough tonight! I was really, really craving something sweet and it was snowy so I wasjust in a mood to bake something from scratch. I actually managed to have a cup of decaf and not give in. I don't think I've ever resisted that strong urge to eat before. I told myself, what's the worst that Will happen if you don't get that sweet treat?? I found out that nothing happens! I'm still a little in shock.


MAGGIE!!!!! That's so awesome, I'm so proud of you! I love it--what will happen? Nothing happens!! Isn't that the truth?! Good for you!
_________________
Homeschool Mom and No S returnee as of Monday, November 30, 2015.

1 year and counting!

26 lbs. down, 37 to go. Slow and steady wins the race.

"Believe conquering sweets is doable." - Oolala
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Amy3010



Joined: 05 Apr 2012
Posts: 972
Location: Belgium

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merry, I'm sorry to hear you're having such a hard month, and my condolences on your family's loss.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
oolala53



Joined: 06 Oct 2008
Posts: 7002
Location: San Diego, CA USA

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merry, sorry your family has had some sadness.

You're always free to respond to the urges to eat by eating, though it won't get you the habits that you probably want even more. Only you can know if this is a good time to go with the urges or not. You'll likely feel some sadness either way. You might give yourself a chance to find out if that hollowness really feels worse than being very full, but if not, no big deal.

Hope you can stay on an even keel with the habits no matter what the scale says.

MaggieMae, it can be so interesting to realize we can do the exact opposite of what our urges say to do.
_________________
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 7 years & counting
Age 63 SBMI Jan/10-30.8 Jan/12-26.8 Mar/13-24.9 Dec/15 24.8 held steady +/- 8-lb. for two years Mar/17 22.8

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
lpearlmom



Joined: 02 Aug 2013
Posts: 3117
Location: Arizona

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So sorry you're going through a hard time Merry. My thoughts are with you and your family.
_________________
"Habit is a dumb beast, don't confuse the poor thing." ~Ironchef

Lost 45 lbs

Instagram "lpearlmom"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Elizabeth50



Joined: 08 Feb 2016
Posts: 159

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaggieMae wrote:
I told myself, what's the worst that Will happen if you don't get that sweet treat?? I found out that nothing happens!


Awesome!!! I love your thought and will borrow from you. Congratulations on getting through a really tough time!
_________________
"It's Not Easy Being Green" ~ Kermit the Frog

Final No S Restart on 2/27/17

02/22/17 - 225
03/06/17 - 223.8
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
TexArk



Joined: 27 Dec 2008
Posts: 655
Location: Foothills of the Ozarks

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Results of First 30 Day Challenge

BMI 32 (Did not weigh at start so do not know about weight loss)
No Sweets - 2 fails
No Seconds - 1 fail
No Snacks - success
No Wild S Days - success
Exercise Days 18/30 (30 minute walks)
NO BINGES!

Will weigh and record again at first of April to start a monthly report.
Goals: Increase number of exercise days and increase vegetable servings.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Elizabeth50



Joined: 08 Feb 2016
Posts: 159

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TexArk, You're doing really great! I'm so with you on wanting to eat more vegetables. I seem to be all talk and little action in regards to that though. Hoping to change that!
_________________
"It's Not Easy Being Green" ~ Kermit the Frog

Final No S Restart on 2/27/17

02/22/17 - 225
03/06/17 - 223.8
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
TexArk



Joined: 27 Dec 2008
Posts: 655
Location: Foothills of the Ozarks

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am doing it the easy although expensive way. I buy those steam in the bag broccoli carrots and cauliflower mixes and sometimes just broccoli. They are making the bags smaller and cost just as much as before, but I eat the entire bag.

Last spring and summer I joined a coop and had a box of fresh vegetables each week. That was a huge mistake. I felt like I had to fix them all because I had spent the money, but I didn't really like most of them. I am pretty simple...tomatoes, squash, tomatoes, and peppers would be about right. All the tougher, long cooking, bitter if you don't add lots of fats greens were just not for me. Anyway, I actually gained weight, because I would not be satisfied and then go scrounging around to find something to eat after all that work preparing the healthy fare (that no one else in the family wanted either).

Nice to know someone else is working on adding vegetables too. I see some of the foods people are eating and think "no way." Sorry, I grew up in Texas with a rancher father. I could never be a vegan.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Elizabeth50



Joined: 08 Feb 2016
Posts: 159

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I grew up on meat and potatoes..and living in the South, our vegetables are usually cooked in fattening casseroles. (Some may argue this, but that's been the case in my family.) There are very few "healthy" cooked vegetables I like. Let's see, there's green beans, broccoli (but with cheese sauce), roasted cauliflower is not bad, but can only take it once in a blue moon, tomatoes, peppers, onions.. I tried artichoke hearts once (fried) and thought they were fairly good, but I can't imagine eating them any other way than fried. I like tomatoes and okra combined. There may be others, but I can't think of any others right now. Oh, cabbage and greens, but as you said, those are best cooked in fats. Edited to add: Squash, usually fried, but can eat it steamed.

I do love the steamers, too. I love to cook diced chicken and mix in those. That's a pretty satisfying meal. Smile

I could never go vegan either, but I have tried vegetarian lifestyle before. Not because of health, but because of a video I watched years ago and should have avoided. I couldn't eat meat at all, afterward. It took me quite a few months but I did finally get back to my carnivore lifestyle. There's simply not enough variety without meat for me.
_________________
"It's Not Easy Being Green" ~ Kermit the Frog

Final No S Restart on 2/27/17

02/22/17 - 225
03/06/17 - 223.8
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Merry



Joined: 22 Sep 2008
Posts: 1113

PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Texark, great job on your first 30 day challenge!
_________________
Homeschool Mom and No S returnee as of Monday, November 30, 2015.

1 year and counting!

26 lbs. down, 37 to go. Slow and steady wins the race.

"Believe conquering sweets is doable." - Oolala
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MaggieMae



Joined: 01 Nov 2015
Posts: 435
Location: Ohio, USA

PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Way to go texark! Ah, vegetables. I hate them. Lol. I'm from the south and my husband is from New York. He calls my green beans" butter beans" because I cook them forever in butter until they're soft. I can't eat those steamed,hard green beans the way he likes them! Years ago a coworker said that people in Easter Kentucky and west Virginia only eat three vegetables.... Corn, potatoes, and green beans. I started to get offended but then I realized that those were the vegetables my mom Usually served with dinner. Not counting the fresh tomatoes and onions in the summer.... she would slice them,sprinkle with salt and serve them with a pot of pinto beans. Mmmm. Anyway, I have been working really hard the last few years to add vegetables to my cooking repertoire. Those steamer bags have been life changing. I use the broccoli and asparagus ones often. Other veggies that I've made end up in the trash.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Elizabeth50



Joined: 08 Feb 2016
Posts: 159

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL on the green beans. Tell your husband that in the South you'll never hear, "Honey, do you think those green beans have cooked enough?" Wink We cook ours to death (with a little pork meat and/or fat) and they are sweet and delicious!

You made my mouth water talking about the onion with the pinto beans, oh and fresh sliced homegrown tomatoes. Yummy, and always with a slice of cornbread on the side! :-p~~
_________________
"It's Not Easy Being Green" ~ Kermit the Frog

Final No S Restart on 2/27/17

02/22/17 - 225
03/06/17 - 223.8
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MaggieMae



Joined: 01 Nov 2015
Posts: 435
Location: Ohio, USA

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the cornbread! I've been wanting to make beans and cornbread lately but husband doesn't like them. He doesn't like biscuits and gravy either! Bless his heart. Lol.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MaggieMae



Joined: 01 Nov 2015
Posts: 435
Location: Ohio, USA

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh that reminds me of a story about a couple that we are friends with. She is the one from New York and he is from eastern Kentucky. When they were dating, she cooked dinner for him and one of the side dishes was steamed green beans. Being from the south, he couldn't stomach those beans and hid them in his napkin so he wouldn't hurt her feelings. Well, she discovered the beans after clearing the table and got so mad! Thankfully, they went on to get married and have a lovely family.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Elizabeth50



Joined: 08 Feb 2016
Posts: 159

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol Bless your husband's heart and the poor fellow who has to eat crunchy green beans.

In the south we like our green beans tender and our chicken crispy. Wink

You need to cook yourself some beans and cornbread. Yummy! Smile
_________________
"It's Not Easy Being Green" ~ Kermit the Frog

Final No S Restart on 2/27/17

02/22/17 - 225
03/06/17 - 223.8
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Elizabeth50



Joined: 08 Feb 2016
Posts: 159

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went off the rails yesterday! I may not lose any weight this month because of all the bad days I've had. But it's okay. I am happy to see that I have twice as many green days as red ones. 14-7. I will never give up trying!
_________________
"It's Not Easy Being Green" ~ Kermit the Frog

Final No S Restart on 2/27/17

02/22/17 - 225
03/06/17 - 223.8
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MaggieMae



Joined: 01 Nov 2015
Posts: 435
Location: Ohio, USA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great attitude, Elizabeth! At least all those green should keep you from gaining, which is a good thing. Who knows, the scales might surprise you.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Elizabeth50



Joined: 08 Feb 2016
Posts: 159

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, MaggieMae! I so hope you're right. I appreciate the support. Smile
_________________
"It's Not Easy Being Green" ~ Kermit the Frog

Final No S Restart on 2/27/17

02/22/17 - 225
03/06/17 - 223.8
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
oolala53



Joined: 06 Oct 2008
Posts: 7002
Location: San Diego, CA USA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I read somewhere here years ago that there are those who go off the rails and liars. The most important thing is to be someone who gets back on enough until staying on the rails is the default.
_________________
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 7 years & counting
Age 63 SBMI Jan/10-30.8 Jan/12-26.8 Mar/13-24.9 Dec/15 24.8 held steady +/- 8-lb. for two years Mar/17 22.8

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Elizabeth50



Joined: 08 Feb 2016
Posts: 159

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wise advice. Thank you, Oolala!
_________________
"It's Not Easy Being Green" ~ Kermit the Frog

Final No S Restart on 2/27/17

02/22/17 - 225
03/06/17 - 223.8
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MaggieMae



Joined: 01 Nov 2015
Posts: 435
Location: Ohio, USA

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://youtu.be/--eC2x5siSg

This is a good video only three minutes long. It shows sample dinners( all single plate meals!) That represent each decade for the last 100 years.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Everyday Systems Forum Index -> No S Diet General Discussion All times are GMT
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3
Page 3 of 3

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum