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oolala53



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, just noticed that this thread has had more views than the etiquette thread that has been around for years. It can't just be us... Hello, lurkers!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oolala53 wrote:
I recognize you, too! I just like the zeitgeist, if I may use that term here. Lost all my weight since age 56 and more in the last six months.


Thanks for the warm welcome! Yes, your story is definitely an encouragement!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And one more: I still get a promo from Brad Pilon because he has an attitude that I like. Here is an excerpt from a recent email:

Have you ever noticed that people can find success with different types of diets?

Or that those exact same diets can easily fail other people?

This is because the diet itself may not actually matter.

Low Carb or High Carb, Paleo or Vegan… when it comes to weight loss it really doesn't matter.

What DOES matter is whether or not the diet changes your behavior for the better, that you create and follow rituals and that they have a positive impact on the mundane aspects of every day life.

After all, that's how diets work —> by impacting your every day life.

A diet that is too complex or does not create behavior change will not work, no matter how good the science is behind it.

If you want to lose weight or improve your health try to create rituals that positively impact the everyday part of your life - this is what will create lasting change.

Back to me: if your rituals are not getting you what you want, either adjust what you want or adjust the ritual. (First adjustment after the meal structure is what is on the plate or size of plate. I like a bigger plate and more veggie, less dense stuff myself.)

TWo-thirds of the way through April, and then we will be two-thirds of the way through 2017. Keep going!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oolala53 wrote:

If you want to lose weight or improve your health try to create rituals that positively impact the everyday part of your life - this is what will create lasting change.

Back to me: if your rituals are not getting you what you want, either adjust what you want or adjust the ritual. (First adjustment after the meal structure is what is on the plate or size of plate. I like a bigger plate and more veggie, less dense stuff myself.)


I like this idea of ritual. In my mind, I've been using the word habit but with food practices, I think ritual fits better. My current ritual that I'm trying to establish is to eat mindfully. The actual ritual is to put my fork/spoon/knife down after I've taken a bite (no pre-loading) until I'm done with the current bite.

This definitely helps me 1. Enjoy my meal more, and 2. Feel satisfied with the smaller quantity that I actually need (and not pine for more).

Thanks, Oolala, for the thought-provoking post!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I adopted the habit of eating slowly (unless I was bingeing) even before No S. I think it's helped a lot. Sometimes I would feel slightly panicked at the beginning of the meal thinking it wouldn't be enough food, but after taking my time, it's usually plenty. I also make it a ritual to eat slowly even when I feel like I'm starving. OH, those bites taste good! And I feel like I get full even faster.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaggieMae wrote:
AND just to make life a little crazier, my parents who have been married for 47 years separated last weekend. My mom moved out. We've been busy helping her move and adjust and they are driving me crazy. I would give anything if my husband worked for a company that had multiple locations so we could move far, far away. When did I become the adult and my parents become the children? I have so much anger and anxiety. I had to go to the doctor and get a new, stronger anti-anxiety medication. What parents cause their kids to go on medication just to deal with them!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


Oh Maggie Mae, I'm so sorry to hear this. I know it's heartbreaking--praying for you.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back, vmsurbat! Missed you! It's always good to hear from another encouraging poster.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am still here and kicking!!!
My Habitcal is looking green. WooHoo!
I too like the term ritual when thinking about what it is going to take for me to release pounds. This week, I have been trying to eat a rainbow at least three each day. I'm actually eating veggies. Yea! Go me:) my Habitcal is still my strongest motivator for keeping to the 3 plates a day habit.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonderful to hear from you and to hear that it's going well.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

threewhales wrote:
I am still here and kicking!!!
My Habitcal is looking green. WooHoo!
I too like the term ritual when thinking about what it is going to take for me to release pounds. This week, I have been trying to eat a rainbow at least three each day. I'm actually eating veggies. Yea! Go me:) my Habitcal is still my strongest motivator for keeping to the 3 plates a day habit.


Way to go on eating the veggies! I just stocked my freezer with a bunch of steamer bags yesterday so I have no excuse for not cooking them.
Thanks for the prayers, Merry! It has certainly been interesting around here.
My son brought home another cold and we have all been sick. I have lost my sense of taste! I have lost 7 pounds this week because I either didn't have an appetite or when I do try to eat, I can't taste anything. It's so weird! It keeps me from eating junk but , boy, do I miss tasting delicious food!
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rest assured your taste buds will recover. And some water weight will likely return. All part of the mix.
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Halfway through May. I think we might have had some dropouts. If you've found nothing else, please consider coming back. You can ease yourself in, if necessary. It's not too late! By fall, you will be in much better shape to keep the habits through the holiday season.
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not a frequent poster but I am loyal to my Habitcal and mark it every morning - still chugging along here in the background on the One Year Challenge, despite grandiose imperfection!
I hope everyone else in hanging in there!
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hanging in there here too! Just not as much online time these days (my senior is graduating & starting college classes in June!) I think life will slow down again by fall, LOL!
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

also here, and here to stay! Smile
going through a rough patch in life... but noS is almost like an anchor...
besides my check-in thread that also helps keep me accountable i have no time to participate more...
but you guys are on my mind!! Smile
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still experimenting with intermittent fasting. It is helping me not eat after dinner and to use self control in the mornings. Knowing food is in the house but making myself wait until at least 9:30 to eat. The problem is. I haven't been following the no S rules along with it. Haven't turned my back on NO S, just pausing to try out fasting. I like how I feel but I definitely need to work on changing how I eat. I was just constantly failing on NO S. It just seems impossible to go five days every week without sweets or snacks. I haven't given up completely. Since doing intermittent fasting, I don't crave desserts as much. I've had many times where I'll eat half of a candy bar or piece of cake and throw the rest away because I know I can more tomorrow if want. Soda is still my biggest obstacle. It has a hold on me! Lol.
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you're saying you can fast but you have a hard time not snacking or eating sweets on the days you're not fasting. I actually understand that. When you fast do you not eat anything for the whole day or one meal?
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fasting program I'm doing is actually a book called Buddha' s Diet. You have a nine hour window of where you are allowed to eat,but then nothing but water for the next fifteen hours. Not a strenuous, long fast at all! But it has helped me relax about food and I feel really good letting my body and digestive system rest every night. I've had several days where I've gone19-20 hours without anything but water. I remember reading on here somewhere( by Reinhard maybe?) That if you're interested in fasting, start by fasting between meals. I think I'm at the point to where I can try that again. I can add the NO S rules into my routine of Buddha s Diet . I want to stop drinking soda desperately. I'm not giving up on that goal. I'm a work in progress.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Reinhard has said to just fast between meals. But he's also said he knows it's been part of religious practice for eons. He just feels no need.

I'm a bit the opposite of you, I think. I have used it over the last year and a half, but I'm off kilter now and it's the 3-meal structure I feel I need before I go back to it a few times a week. I started IF because I got to the point at which I rarely felt hunger for meals, but still wanted to eat. Reading of the benefits of a longer overnight fast helped me push through the desire and the resulting good feelings later helped make it more of an intermittent habit, though there was some overeating backlash for quite awhile, so long that I gave it up for a few months. Had gone back with more smoothness after the first of the year. But a short vacation recently tripped some wires. It's annoying, but not a catastrophe.

BTW, I used to sometimes experiment with it on S days, renegade that I am. I once went 36 hours with nothing but water, and still wasn't hungry but WANTED to eat. After my initial weight loss, most of my further loss has followed very light eating on some weekends, light eating that emerged. I never forced it, just forced waiting until I was actually hungry.

I think few people make the overnight longer fasts work if they eat frequently during their window. (It definitely has its casualties.) One of the longevity researchers whose work I read about eats just a couple of times a day. It sounds like it's collapsed into a pretty short window, maybe 6 hours? But he's pretty disciplined in all areas. He also seems more focused on the intake side, not on the weight loss side. He doesn't aim to weigh a certain amount, but to moderate his intake. But he's darn thin. He fasts, runs after work in the fasted state, eats a small meal, then dinner later with family. He's never gone more than 24 hours, and rarely that.

But that's still the exception in the slim world. Meal-based eating spread out more like No S is MUCH more common. It's a worthy goal.
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still in but experiencing difficulties. It started on a short vacation last april and since then it went down hill. The evening snacking has returned Evil or Very Mad. I had a very bad month in may. But now i feel ready to do it again. I'm trying to figure out what went wrong but i don't know yet. I was in a good flow and suddenly it was gone.
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Short vacation at the end of April sent me off, too!

We have one more month before we are halfway done with our year. Maybe that will be incentive to get SOMETHING pinned down in June.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oolala, what is, or will be, your fasting/eating times the three days a week of fasting that you said you will go back to?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did I say that here? I'll write you separately. I don't think I said three days as I've never targeted that.

I would not recommend any fasting beyond that between three meals until a person is VERY sturdy with Vanilla.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to try to join the June challenge. I have family in town today and having a double birthday party tomorrow do I'm sure will be having lots of S's this weekend! I haven't even been recording on habitcal because I haven't been giving it my best. Definitely need to get back at it. Like oolala said, if I get serious now,the habit will be firmly in place when the holidays roll around. I can't believe how easily I can still be swayed to. try other diets. I just love reading and studying about diets so much. I guess I need to avoid the diet books so I'm not tempted to stray.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diet books hold such sweet promise. They're almost like inspirational literature.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In July, I have a M-F Bible Conference/vacation, and instead of looking forward to the relaxation and spiritual food, I'm anxious about the physical food. There will be a 3-meals a day structure, cafeteria-style , but usually on those days at home, I just drink coffee for breakfast, and use a very small plate for lunch and dinner, as well. Those meals cost good money, so that adds to my head problem of "getting my money's worth."

There are foods I can bypass, like sandwiches, for instance. I just have to accept that I'm going to probably gain at least 5 lbs on this older, smaller body, but the good part is that when I go back to eating at home the usual way, it will come off. But this will take longer than just a few days after the S-day weekend at home.

No S is for a lifetime, so what's the hurry?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

noni wrote:
Those meals cost good money, so that adds to my head problem of "getting my money's worth."


Maybe you can try to play the head game by thinking how nice it is that you don't have to make any of the food. It's not how much you eat that makes the cost worth it--it's being pampered (you didn't have to plan it, go to the store, prep it, cook it, or do the dishes afterwards).

That said, you're so right--No-S is for the long-run, and if you do end up putting on some pounds, rest in knowing that you have a solid plan for taking them back off again. I hope you can enjoy the week!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, Merry! I rarely go out to eat, and do enjoy someone else cooking for a change, being served, etc...I'll try to be grateful for that Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wrote and lost a post saying something similar, that you're paying for the pleasure and convenience of being able to concentrate on your purpose there- no shopping, cooking, cleaning up. You might even consider getting a nice big mug of coffee at breakfast time and then going on a reflective/prayer walk on your own, if that's appropriate.

Also to reverse virtual plate your meals, putting on the plate only the volume of dense food you would on a smaller plate at home and filling the rest with veggies or leafy greens. You might even practice at home before you go just to see what it looks like.

But the best preparation is a green June.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope you have a great conference, Noni! I worry about food issues when I'm going away,too! Maybe you'll get to do some walking and end up not gaining after all. If your conferences are like the ones I've attended,there's usually dessert with lunch AND dinner! That's what's hard for me pass up.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I join?
I know I'm super late, but I'm a newbie and just started No-S yesterday. I would love to have the accountability!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bd88 wrote:
Can I join?
I know I'm super late, but I'm a newbie and just started No-S yesterday. I would love to have the accountability!


Welcome!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course. We still a little more than half the year left. Plenty of time to build solid habits.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so much for the welcome! I guess I will give some background info to introduce myself:

I started No-S on Sunday in conjunction with my version of alternate day fasting and have had great results. Every other day, I fast all day until dinner (I don't count the calories of my dinner like you're supposed to on ADF because I don't find calorie counting to be sustainable, and I can become obsessive). I eat the same amount as I would for dinner on N-days, which is just the one plate as prescribed. I follow an eating schedule of 8:30 breakfast, 1:30 lunch, and 6:30 dinner. On fast days, I also wait until 6:30 for dinner for consistency. On Sunday, I still followed the schedule but just added a dessert to dinner. I don't feel a need to depart from the schedule on weekends, though I know special occasions may require otherwise. I will cross that bridge when I get to it.
I am also a dietary and ethical vegan.
As of today, I have lost 3 pounds!

Eating three square meals has been such an unexpected delight. I never thought this would work for me because I have always felt so hungry all the time before, and I have a long history of binge eating (diagnosed as BED). I was constantly snacking all day long and binging late at night before I started No-S. I had the urge to binge on Sunday night, but ever since then, it has been smooth sailing. I don't even get hungry in between meals anymore except for about 30 minutes to an hour before mealtime, and that is just a "pleasant" hunger. My first fast day was super hard, as I was SOOOO hungry and drained, but my second fast day was yesterday, and just as I mentioned, the hunger only came about an hour or so before dinner, although it wasn't as pleasant as on non-fasting days. Even still, it was definitely bearable. I have practiced some form of intermittent fasting off and on for many years and just love the benefits it has on my body, but I always had a hard time sticking to a daily eating window. ADF is MUCH easier for me. Yesterday's fast was amazing - I had so much energy, clarity, and focus and got SO much done.

This has been such an easy lifestyle to adopt. I feel like such an idiot that I spent so many years crash dieting and yoyoing when all I needed to do was return to the basics with just a few modifications. I know this lifestyle change will stick because it is so effortless, and I know that once I reach my goal (30.6 lbs to go!), it will be easy enough to maintain the weight since I find both my fasting and non-fasting days to be enjoyable. I finally feel in control!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome, bd88! Thanks for telling us about yourself!
Well , I've slipped back into diet head lately. I found myself at the bookstore today looking at the diet section. I seriously looked at the books and thought" read that one...... Own that one and that one.......tried that one twice......". You get the idea. There was nothing new to try. I've done every diet under the sun! Lol. I just can't get back on track. I was doing ok until I weighed myself a few weeks ago. I need to put away the scales. It truly messes with my mind. My eating is so out of control this week. Bingeing on fast food and soda. I wish there was a reset button on my brain. Start again Monday,I guess.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, Maggie!
I know what you mean. I feel like I have tried everything as well. This is sort of a last ditch effort for me, but it seems like it just makes a lot of sense.
Can you restart today? I know that if I try to restart too far in the future, I binge even more because I think about all the extras I have to get in before the dreaded restart.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't intend to start today, but so far I've had breakfast and lunch only and it justs feels so Much better than being out of control! Funny you said that you think about all the extras you have to get in before starting back on a diet. I'm the same way! Whenever I decide to get back on track mobday, I completely pig out all weekend. My husband and I are going out to eat dinner tonight, which is a rare treat, so I have no desire to snack before dinner. I want to be truly hungry and enjoy every bite. I work this weekend and that will help to keep it from being an S day gone wild! I'm cooking dinner tomorrow night for my parents and then they're cooking out Sunday for dinner. The only sweet I'm looking forward to having is a strawberry pie that I'm picking up tomorrow. Have you guys tried the strawberry pie from Bob Evans? Oh.My. goodness. The bottom layer is cream cheese and the strawberries are on top of that. Drool. I can't wait. I haven't had it since last summer and its truly one of my favorite desserts.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats on restarting right away, Maggie!
That strawberry pie sounds absolutely divine! I may make a vegan version of that this weekend! Smile

My S days went pretty well this weekend. I was afraid that I would binge, but I didn't! And I only felt guilty once while eating, which is a huge deal. I have decided not to stick to set mealtimes and ADF on the weekends because it just isn't realistic for me. Instead, I am doing a longer fast today and will pick up with regular fasts until dinner on Wednesday and Friday. I am going to stick to 3 squares indefinitely, though. The no snacking rule has given me so much more control of my eating since I began No-S. I don't know why, but I just never linked eating every 3 hours to being hungry constantly and consequently binging. It seems so obvious, but I just never considered it before this. I appreciate how much No-S has helped me learn more about myself and my body.

Hope everyone had a great weekend!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I may, I always suggest writing down and frequently reviewing the reasons you want to live a life of moderate food intake, either before you begin, or when you're stuck in a failure rut. What advantages does eating less have? How does No S support them? How is No S better than so many alternatives? Is there really any competition? If you suspect there might be, wouldn't it still be wiser to tread water with No S? That list was central to me when I started and when I've had periods of frequent failures. It would help me understand that I just couldn't stand to go back to my previous lifestyle, that nothing was likely going to make it easy, and that I could tolerate some desire for a few hours, reminding myself that that was all I had to do at any one time.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great suggestion, oolala! I will absolutely begin writing those things down. Reading and writing are some of the only things that actually completely distract me from everything (if ever a fire ignites while I am in a library or bookstore, that day will be my last), so I think taking the time to write and think about/review those things when I need a distraction from any No-S/ADF "unpleasantness" could actually help prevent failures for me.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good suggestion oolala. I should write things down,too. 88, I've been thinking about keeping to three meals on weekends. I feel so out of control. I think that structure 7 days a week would help me a lot.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good morning, everyone!
I hope you all are doing well.

Maggie, I definitely think sticking to that is the key for me! It feels liberating to eat whatever I want on the weekend, but I still feel like I am in control by sticking to the 3 plates. Snacking all day in front of the TV on the occasional lazy Saturday meant I was ingesting upwards of 4000 calories, and I would usually binge at night on top of that. And I am a very small woman! I still ate more calories than I typically do on a weekday this past weekend (not because I am counting, but because I have memorized a lot of calorie counts of foods from the days when I did count), but I still felt what I had been feeling all week - no real thought of food between meals and no desire to binge. It's so liberating!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Posting here because it's3:00 pm. My challenging time of day. This is when I want to get out of control. Posting here instead. I'm thinking that maybe I have a fear of being hungry. Today I tried eating" normal meals" instead of piling my plates up. I had a bowl of cereal and coffee for breakfast, and a grilled chicken sandwich for lunch which I didn't finish because I was full. If I get hungry before dinner I'll have a glass of milk. I would have a coffee but I've had a lot of caffeine already. Looking forward to dinner. Planning on making baked potatoes with lots of toppings to choose from and maybe my smoothie for protein which is some plain Greek yogurt, half a banana and a spoon of peanut butter. It's such a good feeling when I do this. why do I keep straying from no S? I need to write down how I feel right now. How good it feels it to not be stuffed.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turns out I have a urinary tract infection so I will be having a few crackers when I get home to take my first dose of antibiotics. Not going to use it as an excuse to eat all night although that is tempting. The only thing helping me is that I'm slightly nauseated. It was caught early so thankfully not in much pain. I'll be using cranberry juice to stave off hunger. 😄
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaggieMae wrote:
Posting here because it's3:00 pm. My challenging time of day. This is when I want to get out of control. Posting here instead. I'm thinking that maybe I have a fear of being hungry. Today I tried eating" normal meals" instead of piling my plates up. I had a bowl of cereal and coffee for breakfast, and a grilled chicken sandwich for lunch which I didn't finish because I was full. If I get hungry before dinner I'll have a glass of milk. I would have a coffee but I've had a lot of caffeine already. Looking forward to dinner. Planning on making baked potatoes with lots of toppings to choose from and maybe my smoothie for protein which is some plain Greek yogurt, half a banana and a spoon of peanut butter. It's such a good feeling when I do this. why do I keep straying from no S? I need to write down how I feel right now. How good it feels it to not be stuffed.


LOVE this! I'm so sorry to hear you have a urinary tract infection though. I hope you feel better soon.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feel better, Maggie!

Does anyone use a meal timer? I grew up eating lots of my meals on the go because I was in a lot of activities and the habit of vacuuming up an entire meal in minutes has stuck. I have been trying to concentrate more on eating more slowly since it is easier for me to tell when I have had enough, but I have only been able to make my meals last 15-20 minutes. I have seen some apps that help you slow down and eat, but I didn't know if that was being neurotic or not. Maybe I should just embrace the progress I have made for now and not worry too much about it? I just thought I read somewhere that taking 30+ minutes to eat is best for your body.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always been a slow eater by nature. My husband's always finished way before me. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you unless you're eating so fast that's its causing indigestion or something like that. I have heard taking twenty minutes to eat allows your brain time to get the signal that you are full.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh good! I don't know where I got 30 minutes from. But I used to be able to eat an entire meal (way bigger than one plate) in under 5 minutes before. I've slowed down to 15-20 without even trying on No-S. It's funny how quickly we adapt. I am guessing subconsciously I realized that I was only getting one plate so I need to savor it! And it's definitely working.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being able to go from 5 to 20 consistently is a great advance! Let it evolve. I typically take 40 or more for dinner because I have so many veggies that I HAVE to chew, and because I'm grateful I don't have to fit it in to a 40-minute lunch break, but I"m pretty slow at the starches/fats/proteins now, too, because I really want to savor them! I allow myself at times to put half my starch/protein back on the stove or in the panini-type grill to keep it all hot. It's still what was on the plate to start.
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