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oolala53



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The large dinner was a treat, too, no?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps it was in its way. Although as far as I remember, the food was nothing out of the ordinary.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just meant the largeness. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you might be right there. I still can't see myself having restrained moderate meals 21x per week, and I do enjoy(?) the feeling of really not wanting to eat any more. So having that outlet on weekends is good.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weekly report:

I had a tough couple of days battling food cravings this week. However I didn't succumb apart from eating excessive amounts of cheese with my meals. Given how much I was thinking about eating outside meal times, and going back for seconds, I count this as a success.

Mon-Fri - success
Sat, Sun - 3 meals.

Exercise - one walk, about 10km
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent! Having the excess at meal time is a great step down strategy that Reinhard was very savvy about.

Give yourself big props.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weekly report:
Mon - Fri: success
Sat, Sun - 3 meals

No funny business, although I have been hungry in the night a couple of times.

Exercise: 1 walk 8 km/5 miles with group (cut short because of the heat), 3 bodyweight sessions where I try to regain some of the muscle mass I have lost over the decades. I have noticed some strength gains over the last 6 months, which is encouraging.

I've been reading some of the posts on Michael Mosley's fastdiet forum. I tried fasting several years ago, but found myself in bed and feeling rather unwell by late afternoon. Obviously, not for me. I do do a limited form of IF which involves not eating until mid to late morning, and stopping eating eating early in the evening.

Recently I've tightened that up a little, to deal with a particular health problem (not to lose weight, or because I couldn't succeed with No S). I've been doing this on and off (interrupted by periods of disordered eating, which IF did nothing to cure) for several years, and have found some benefits. In particular, I find it convenient to be able to go out without breakfast and last until lunch time without any particular difficulty. I also believe that my tolerance for exercise has increased.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both nice benefits. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weekly report:

Mon, Tues, Wed - success
Thurs, Fri - S days - was staying in the mountains with a walking group. Had 4 meals each day, as too difficult to fit in 3. No disordered eating or impromptu nibbles.
Sat, Sun - 3 meals

edit: I had a couple of comments on the size of my meals. I pointed out that my meals had to last between lunch & dinner etc, and that I wasn't eating all the extras - wine, pre-dinner nibbles, cake for morning tea. I could have also pointed out that fruit and veg occupy a larger vol for fewer calories than more energy dense foods.

Exercise - 1 bodyweight session, more walking than usual - 8km/5 miles, 16km, 13 km and some ups and downs.

Back to the heat in my home town today after a wonderful 5 nights in the cool.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weekly report:
Mon - success
Tues - success by the skin of my teeth. Felt tired, restless and unsettled after lunch. Somehow managed to get some distance from the unpleasant feelings, and distracted myself until dinner. Coming back from being away is usually a difficult time for me as far as not overeating goes.
Wed - technically success, but ate too much lunch and dinner.
Thurs, Fri - success. Being more careful about how much I put on my plates.
Sat - 3 meals
Sun - 4 meals. Ending up having supper as I inadvertently had too little dinner to keep me going til I got to sleep.

Exercise: 1 walk 8km mostly on the flat with group, 3 bodyweight sessions (not really sessions: as I was still recovering from being away, I did the exercises at odd intervals during the day, instead of one after another in half an hour. It still works.)

Monthly weight report:

Dec: 140 - 143 lbs
Jan: 139 - 141 lbs

My weight dipped to a new low this month, but I didn't stay there as per usual.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not giving in on Tuesday is an extra success. Exclamation
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weekly report:

Mon: success, but indigestion after dinner
Tues: success, but seconds after dinner
Wed: success
Thurs, Fri: technically success, but seconds after dinner again. On Friday I was strongly tempted to continue eating, something that rarely happens now.
Sat: dropped in on a friend at lunch time after a bike ride on an empty stomach and had a snack. 3 meals as well. Seconds for lunch. Indigestion after dinner again.
Sun: 3 meals. I've been eating a bit different food to usual, the result being either indigestion or feeling so unsatisfied that I ended up having seconds. I put a stop to this on Sunday, and went back to my usual diet and ate three satisfying but not excessive meals.

Exercise: walk with group in the heat: 10km. 3 lots of bodyweight exercises. One longer than usual bike ride.

There has been a cool change thank goodness.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

couple things -- 1) you have an active social life -- and I mean that really literally, since you walk with a group! SO COOL!
2) do you live in Australia? Somewhere it is very hot right now?
3) all that biking!

Impressive
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walking with a group has always been one of my favourite things to do. I live in a rural city with plenty of bush nearby.

I do live in Australia. Talking about the heat while the northern hemisphere freezes is a bit of a giveaway that I'm not there.

Most of my biking is short distances over easy terrain, and hardly counts as exercise. I went off on a rail trail to a local creek to get out of the house. It was too humid to walk, but biking was OK.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So your days are getting slowly shorter now. I hated being in the dark for so long many winters because I often woke up at 4 (insomnia, not choice) Light! Light! I wanted light early! Now I'm on the other side because I'm not working and was enyoing being able to get out and walk during the civil twilight when the colors are so much more intense. Now it's coming earlier and I'm waking up later...

But there's always the sunset. In another month, it will be at a great time to go eat at a restaurant on the beach at a dinner time.

I hope you find the sweet spot regarding indigestion.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evening walks - best time of day
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a coworker once that went on a family walk after dinner every night. For years! Always admired that.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weekly report:

Mon: success
Tues: success, only two meals as had first meal very late
Wed - Fri: success
Sat, Sun - 3 meals

Exercise: walk with group 8km, 3 lots of bodyweight exercises
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two thumbs up!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weekly report:
Mon, Tues - success
Wed - success, 2nds for lunch
Thurs, Fri - success
Sat 3 meals
Sun 3 meals - 2nds for dinner

Exercise: walk with group 7 km or so. No bodyweight exercises - having a rest week.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weekly check in:
Mon - success
Tues - too hungry to sleep, snack middle of night
Wed - too hungry to sleep, snack middle of night
Thurs - S day - after 2 nights of broken sleep, I really needed to eat more. As I was out til after lunch walking, large meals were not possible. I had 6 smaller meals.
Fri - S day - still catching up on the food my body was telling me it needed. Had 4 meals, overdid the last one a bit.
Sat - 3 meals, seconds breakfast & dinner
Sun - 4 meals. Thought it would be 3, but started feeling hungry again near bedtime.

This has probably been the hardest week since I started reporting here as far as regulating my eating goes. I was hungrier than usual, and overtired.

Exercise: 13km walk in the bush with walking group, 2 lots of bodyweight exercises. More cycling than usual on Tuesday.

Monthly weight report:
Jan: 139 - 141 lbs
Feb: 139 - 142

My top weight was up a bit this month. I suspect it was bloat due to the heat. After the weather cooled down, my weight dropped back to where it was at the beginning of the month. So I will call it maintenance.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weekly report:
Mon - Fri: success
Sat, Sun - 3 meals

A much easier week this week, after taking two S days last week to catch up on my food intake. My hunger this week was much milder.

I realise I'm not in the same place as many on this forum. I rarely eat highly processed foods and don't struggle with treats because mostly I don't eat that sort of food. I'm not wearing a hair shirt - I get just as much pleasure from eating a punnet of really good quality raspberries as I ever did from flour/sugar/fat treats.

My struggles are mainly in finding the line between excessive hunger and indigestion as well as still sometimes having non hunger food cravings outside meal times.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have found that non-hunger desire for food between meals has never completely gone away. It would be convenient if it did, but it doesn't seem to be in my control. It's not all day every day, though. I hope that doesn't discourage you. I just say it because I believe it isn't an indication you're doing something wrong.

Riding that line between hunger and indigestion sounds really tricky.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks as ever for your words of encouragement
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weekly report:
Mon - success, seconds for dinner
Tues - fail - supper
Wed - success
Thurs - success, seconds for dinner
Fri - success
Sat - 3 meals
Sun - 3 meals plus supper

Not a week when I could bear to do any sort of food restriction outside 3 meals. Hence having supper twice and seconds twice. Still not bingeing though. Always a victory.

Edit: exercise: walk with group 11 to 12 km on the flat, 1 lot of bodyweight exercises.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weekly report:

Mon - Fri: success
Sat - 3 meals plus supper as hungrier than usual
Sun - 3 meals

Exercise: walks with other people: 13km, 14km. 2 lots of bodyweight exercises
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is a punnett? Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where is it? I can't find the reference to it. But it's a basket, the kind berries come in, or used to, right?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who's sometimes too hungry to sleep. A little worried that that hasn't gone away for you, with as long as you've been doing this!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What time do you have dinner and what do you eat, if I may ask?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A punnet is the little container, plastic nowadays, that they sell berries in. About 4 - 5 oz or 125 - 150g.

I have never been very good at judging how much I need to eat, so a year is probably not enough time, especially as I am still pretty irregular in my eating habits as far as meal times go. Also my hunger levels vary a lot depending on how much exercise I get and how much I ate the day before, as you would expect. Don't worry Friyay, your experience may be quite different to mine.

Tonight I am having mince + buckwheat + some salad veg, olive oil, almonds, and an apple for dinner. A fairly typical meal. I'm usually finished eating by about 7:30, bed by 10.

edit: and a bit of salty, jellied stock to make dinner tasty
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, a punnet. And here I thought it was something to do with Gregor Mendel and genetics (haha just kidding).

If that's what a punnet is, those are the things my kids finish off in about 5 minutes as an after-school snack. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a punnet of peas perhaps?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weekly report:

Mon - Fri: success
Sat - 3 meals
Sun - 3 meals - had seconds for dinner and regretted it almost straight away.

Exercise: 1 walk 8km, 1 lot of bodyweight exercises, usual pottering around and shorter bursts of activity to keep my step count up.

I haven't been as hungry this week, which makes things easier. The weather is cooling down, and I have been getting back in the garden. Out with the old summer veg, in with the cool weather goodies.

Edit:
Monthly weight report:

Maintenance again

Feb 139 - 142
Mar 139 - 142
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weekly report:

I had a difficult week this week in some ways as my mood and energy levels were both down. Only No S kept me from resorting to me usual temporary fix of lots of food.

Mon - Fri: success
Sat, Sun - 3 meals

Exercise - no walk with group this week as not up to it. Completed one lot of bodyweight exercises.

Today I have a couple of friends coming for a garden working bee, so that will give me a boost.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a great idea about the garden bee!

I'm glad you were able to hold onto your NoS practice when things got tough.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So was I. The working bee went well, did a big clean & tidy and now have all my pots in a row (metaphorically).
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you all trade off to work in each others' gardens?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We take it in turns, more of less.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love that idea. I'd like to do it with housework, too! People think I'm crazy for that one, but extended families did the work together, I'm pretty sure.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weekly check in:
Mon - Fri: success
Sat, Sun - 3 meals, 2nds for Sun lunch

Exercise: 1 walk with group 11km, 2 lots of bodyweight exercises completed

An easier week this week.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

weekly report:
Mon - Fri: success
Sat, Sun: 3 meals

Exercise: no walk this week or exercises as I had a cold. Did some light gardening on the weekend when I started to feel better.

Another working bee, in a friends garden today.
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