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Lilybug



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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 1:35 am    Post subject: Lilybug's check-in Reply with quote

New here. Didn't really want to do a check in because I'm so over the weight watchers constant monitoring of every single thing I eat and fit bit every step I take. Still, I may try to check in from time to time to see how it looks as the big picture.

Two greens (Monday and Tuesday) but today I was so hungry (or at least wanted to eat really bad) and had a protein shake, then 4 energy balls. Feeling tired and stressed. Went to see mom and sister and brother, ate lasagna and strawberry tiramisu dessert. Ugh! Super red day. All this was after 5:00.

I'm going to move on, but I wish I could find a way to make those strong urges to eat more easy to overcome. I suspect they are emotional or nervous reasons because my meals are big aplenty Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome Lilybug, and well done for moving on after a red day. Your check in can be whatever you want and however often you want, whatever works for you. Hope to see you around Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, skycat!
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lilybug, I think those urges to eat have a lot to do with insulin release. Your body is expecting food and reacts accordingly, and that leaves you with that miserable I'm munchy-but-not-hungry feeling. The regular meals do seem to help with that.
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, larkspur. The next day was red as well, but I pulled off a green today😇.

I was barely tempted by some "free" cookies in the break room but it was surprisingly easy to pass on them today for some reason.

Even though I feel like I'm eating a lot and a lot of more calorie dense foods, it's so strange and wonderful to not be eating constantly through the day.

I'm digging it so far. Just hope I will not gain!
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Green Monday. The weekend was good although I did do some tv snacking. Even on an s day it feels like it's not a good thing.

A little worried about gaining, but I'm going to keep on and try to keep my focus on habit. The snacking was by far my worst habit. I'm probably eating more sweets now that they are allowed.

I'm still trying to go for the 21 day streak.

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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the urges can come from other sources, too. There are tons of associations with food that can stimulate a desire to eat. You are very right that they aren't likely about real need, since you are eating regularly and probably have some reserves you wouldn't mind your body drawing on. Wink

Sometimes it will be easy and sometimes hard to ignore urges. I decided long ago I couldn't wait for it to get easy. Easy always ended and then I would just slide into the old habits. The only thing I can say is it is absolutely worth it to hold out until the structure is your default. (Full disclosure: I have been failing lately, but I've had a lot of success over the years, and see myself getting right soon.)

I have used a lot of what I learned about satisfying, delicious meals that weren't really heavy on WW, I'll give it that.

Hope to hear from you once in awhile. And that it can all become routine without all the tracking.
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks oolala. I'm glad you're here. You are a wealth of information on these boards! I do plan on Checking in here and reading posts is helpful.

I am a little shell shocked after ww, though. Part of it I loved, like connect, until it starts driving me nuts, the constant tracking and trying to get motivated by reading the stories. Trying to lose weight was taking over my life! Also, I didn't lose much weight and I gained it back and I was still going to meetings and tracking (although. i went over every week on my points).

I had enough and threw away all my diet books and have not stepped on my scale.

I want to be healthy and a good weight, but I want a life, too. I have to make this work. I feel like my only alternative is accepting being overweight and I'm not going to do that, I'm sure.

I am about 30 lbs over where I want to be- a weight I would be totally satisfied at. Probably a size 8-10.

I'm also working on shedding the clutter in my house. (Reinhardt, do you want to come up with a system for that? I think that would be great and fall right into no s. I think weight and clutter are inter-related). Idea
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he has admired Flylady because she has routines. People there often report that getting established in the basic routines led to accomplishing much more than just the basics. I haven't been able to keep up the kitchen stuff. Sigh.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wednesday is green. Still eating pretty large meals. Starting in June, or after 21 days, maybe Question I will start paying more attention to portions.
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thursday green, large dinner of lasagna, 2breadsticks and small salad from fazolis. Still amazed I'm not snacking, but slightly apprehensive about the big meals.
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's only your ninth day! Way too early to be worrying about meal sizes, unless you feel bloated and uncomfortable between meals.
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks oolala! That helps me feel less nervous.

I've noticed way less cravings for sweets and even snacking at all.

I know a lot of it is my larger meals, but I have been snacking nonstop for a long time and before no s, I was pretty much planning the next thing I was going to eat constantly.

I threw out all my diet books (donated). People at work make me crazy. Some juicing, many Atkins, etc. They discuss diet All. Day. Long.

I'm so over that mentality (I hope for good).
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They talk a lot but rarely make long term changes. But I was there, too. In a way, I still am, except that it's just about supporting this. And this is definitely more fun.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Failure. Off work and drinks with family, then starving and felt I needed to eat.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What time of day was this? Did you eat on your own? Did it replace a meal or was it just early dinner? Just curious about having drinks with the family but no meal. My family doesn't live nearby, so I don't know how these things work.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My sister came over about 4pm and we had a couple of beers. We then went to her house, (she lives in my neighborhood), she was going to cook burgers, but that took awhile so had another drink or two 😜 And by that time I needed to eat! I snacked on some chips and dip before dinner was ready, then ate dinner about 7.

I really need to eat with alcohol. I will probably do the ES Reinhardt has for limits on alcohol at some point!
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

S day, but I think I did overeat. A whole bar of hazelnut chocolate (over 500 calories, I know that is not supposed to matter). I think I kept on eating it to "get rid of it". Anyone else have that happen?

I also had a big piece of banana bread and fresh squeezed oj for breakfast.

Baguette with roast chicken, cheddar cheese and dry salami for dinner. AND a scoop of vanilla ice cream.

I feel bloated and tired.

I am trying to trust the process, but I have to admit I feel a little nervous.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is absolutely possible to eat too much on S days. It's just not forbidden. But it is meant to be a temporary release valve to the N day eating discipline until N day eating feels more natural and even preferred. No S can't defy the laws of chemistry. If you eat more than your body needs overall, following every whim to eat, you will not lose and eventually gain. No S is just a way to limit the intake, a way that has been commonly used before the rules were thrown out. If months down the line, the moderation of N days isn't naturally spilling over into S days, you may decide you are ready to take purposeful action. But no need to hang that over your head now, unless you have a health condition. BTW, it took me two years before I was willing to rein in my S days. Needless to say, weight loss stalled many times, but loss was not my main goal. Eventually, the release valve became more of a burden than a release. I got tired of feeling caught by food and being too full. (Avoiding that was THE main motivation for me, but it was a dance.) I still had to use effort, but it became worth it because I felt more comfortable and enjoyed what I ate more on S days, like I did on N days.

I know No S tries to get us to be rather casual about things, but it's very easy to drink more than a meal's worth of calories in alcohol alone, yet it won't feel like it. In fact, most people will be likely to eat even more. The body knows, though. (Not meant to incur shame, but just calm reflection. Slim societies are rather moderate with their drinking, too.)

I think the general recommendation even outside of No S is to intersperse drinking water between booze drinks. Pairing/following it with a meal is probably a good idea, too, but that may be a lot of habit change at once, if a person is used to drinking socially.
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SUCCESS

I was actually glad to get to the N part of the week. I felt bad from food, alcohol and cigarettes. I have been quit for years but a very stressful time in my life has weakened me and I have been smiling here and there.

Today, no cigarettes, alcohol or Ss.

Feels good and now to get some good rest tonight.
My sleep has been not so good (probably the nicotine)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SUCCESS

I did pretty well today. I made sure everything was on the same plate. I had been using little plates of more than one item, which I figured was the same as being on the same big plate, but after reading more of the book, I think it is important to be on the same plate. It looks like more. I'm a visual person and so I think I better make sure this is followed. I could see the difference tonight as I slid my salad I had originally put in a bowl onto my plate to join my pizza. Lotsa food.

Still, I was tempted a little to snack later. I've been fatigued and achy all day and frankly, cranky! I'm amazed that I didn't eat after dinner. I think this no snack thing is amazing. I didn't think I could do it. I was a constant grazer. ALL DAY. Thanks, Reinhard for if nothing else, I'm finding peace with this!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The desire to snack might go and come and go. Desire doesn't have to be in charge.

I usually put salad on my plate, even before No S. I tend to skip salad dressing and just mix bites of salad with dense food, though sometimes salad dressing is the sauce for my other food, too. Double duty .

But I sometimes have a small bowl of soup or yogurt that I put on the plate along with the other food, at least to start. I can always take it off once I see it all on the plate.

Won't it be great to have two more green days this week?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SUCCESS

cranky again today- looking forward to the weekend. Work has been stressful. I'm glad I had another Green Day!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yay! One more to go.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FAILURE

Changed from green previously because it wasnt following the s rules fully
But not ideal. I had dinner on one plate and no snacks, but before my dinner came out of the oven, I had some cheese and dried salami. I'm counting as green because it was all one meal, but I failed on the one plate aspect.

NOTE: I also got really full and I see how one plate is important.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes we need to do things a little differently, just to see the contrast and to appreciate the simplicity and effectiveness of this plan. I'm interested, would the full feeling make you go for the one plate approach more strictly in future? How big a difference did it make?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skycat, I think it may. I can see it's a slippery slope and I understand this needs to be done as directed. No chocolate sprinkles on my vanilla.

I'm going to count on my habitual and here that day as a red day.

I hope I do change, I'm afreaid because I'm bad about doing over and over things I know make Me feel bad for some strange reason.🙄
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possible explanations: There is a theory that a person does them over and over BECAUSE she feels bad about it. It's a subconscious penance that allows you to go and sin again. Very tricky. But it can also work to get so exasperated with the habit of feeling regret that a person finally reduces of stops the behavior that makes her feel regret.

Another thought is that there is pleasure that reinforces the behavior before the cruddy feelings and regret follow. So there is a strong urge to get that pleasure almost no matter what it costs.

In any case, you are learning and going forward. That's a heck of a lot better than throwing up your hands and saying it's too hard or you're too weak. (That's just the brain pattern protecting the habit, and often succeeding.)
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FAILURE

all good until dinner. Ate salmon, asparagus and rice. Then I wanted more rice with sugar and cinnamon. Then I ate a bag of coconut chips. Ugh.

Feels like pms. Got into a banter with my husband over stupid past stuff.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gillian Riley says when we learn to master wanting without eating and without artificially dieting, we have a chance at a real life with food, though not is so many words.

Tomorrow's Hump Day, a great day to get back on the horse.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SUCCESS

Still eating pretty good size portions
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still? It hasn't even been a month! Most people don't find their right amounts for quite awhile. No need to be one of the exceptions. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks oolala! I do feel like I may have gained some weight Embarassed
I haven't weighed since I started this thing and before. I was sick of monitoring everything and the ups and downs of all that. I'm afraid to now!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would it be a catastrophe if you had gained a few pounds?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point. It wouldn't. But I'm afraid if I see a big gain then I'll freak out and start grasping at straws again. Maybe. Maybe not. I'm pretty fed up with the diet stuff.

Today was a SUCCESS.

This weekend is my birthday so I'm guessing there will be opportunities for goodies (yay actually lol). My sister had some orange cake on Monday and I absolutely love it. I asked her to wrap me up a slice to have for breakfast Saturday.

I have to say I absolutely LOVE that I'm not feeling that crazy gotta have it now feeling when I think about sweets. I know I can have it on the weekend. It really takes the crazy out of it.
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Defusing the scale is a worth habit to develop, but it may be a lot to ask to add it to everything else.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FAILURE

I took half a day off work and hung out with my friends around the pool and had several drinks along with bits of cheese and that orange cake never made it to breakfast. Shocked

I was in birthday celebration mode. Or that's my excuse.
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I hate to tell you but I had a suspicion about that orange cake. It sounded like it could double for dessert and that can be eaten at night, too, and the old habit knows that.Twisted Evil

But you aren't the first to eat something saved for the weekend prematurely and won't be the last. The only really sad part is that it's now gone, so no orange cake at breakfast. Sad I guess you'll have to have chocolate chip waffles. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol. Yep, I had a feeling about the orange cake too. Oh well, had to settle with a free pastry at Panera for my breakfast Wink

Really beautiful day, and I'm headed to the lake for more festivities. I'm exhausted though from digging up an evil rose bush that I've despised for a long time. Looks like crap half the time and cuts you with its thorns. I liken it to several relationships in my life. They look good at times, then get eaten up (negativity, ego, judgement, anxiety provoking behavior) by bugs and look bad. I try to help them with pruning and it cuts me Rolling Eyes

I go back and forth to decide if they're worth it. I want to give another chance (it was so pretty at one time), but eventually you have to pluck it out. It can be backbreaking work, but it's worth it when the thorns are just a memory.

Feeling philosophical Laughing

Anyway, replaced with red carpet lilies. Planted some toad lilies up front, too.

Water and now I'm exhausted.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monday SUCCESS
Tuesday SUCCESS
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Here's to a delicious Hump Day.
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SUCCESS
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Friday SUCCESS
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at you--you're doing great!

Hope you're having an enjoyable weekend!

Linda
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Linda! Yes, I'm still floored that I'm not thinking about food 24/7 and that when I do eat, I'm eating with more enjoyment and less wolfing it down. Probably because I've left the guilt behind.

Yesterday (Saturday) I had a piece of cheesecake and some chips, but other that that nothing too crazy-which also surprises me.

I have had some bloating though, and trying on clothes was a bummer. I have gained and plus the bloat put me in size 14 (usually a size 12 and would like to be an 8 or 10). It's worth it to me right now and I have hope that it will go down, as I have trusted the process so far and am amazed that I can not snack. That is a miracle in itself. Hoping the weight loss also comes around. We shall see.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So much for feeling more n control. Somehow, I really overrate today, including 3'ice cream bars and a half package of ladyfingers, even though I don't care much for them. I realize these are issues that aren't going away overnight, but it still stinks. I get tired or nervous about something coming up and I eat to the point of discomfort. 😞
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lilybug: Get right back on the N Day horse, and don't let anything stop you!!! Don't beat yourself up. S Days are not really a fail, even if we overdo it... Maybe you were too strict about what goes on your plates M-F, or maybe you snacked uncomfortably on Sunday? I'm finding I really like to keep the three meal structure on S Days but add something sweet and be less "comically strict" (as Reinhard says in his book) about my plate - on S Days I'll reach over to the serving dishes and add something. You were doing really well this week - so let that be your guiding thought! Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, don't worry about S days at all--make N days your focus. S days often sort themselves out over time, and if not, you can deal with that later (if you need to).

My S day today:

a 1" piece of egg casserole, a piece of sweet bread, and a 1-bite danish plus 3 cups of coffee with cream and sugar for breakfast.

Lunch was a fruit & yogurt smoothie and a klondike bar.

Snack was pretzels with cream cheese and a sprite.

Dinner was a frozen personal pizza and a klondike bar and some apple juice.

Definitely more sugar than I need, but close to a regular meal structure except the snack--much different from my S days in the beginning which were snack all day affairs, LOL!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed! Don't worry about S days. Mine are only now calming down after 4 years but I still managed to lose weight. N days will start to feel like like a relief which is a good thing.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all so much. I am feeling so bad about Sunday. Yes, relief that my N day is here for sure!

Also, buying things like ice cream bars- I'm not ready for it. I was feeling cocky because I had been leaving things in the pantry that I normally would have been all over.

You guys give me hope with your encouragement - and your stories of how it was when you first started. I need to read that when I start those panicky thoughts of " I have to get this under control! Maybe this was a bad idea!" Start up!

Geez, I'm so glad it's Monday! (Can't believe I'd ever say that!!! Lol)

Lilybug
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've been at this a little over a month. It may not have been inevitable to have these shifts in ease, but it is typical. It has no predictive value. Successful people have them, too. The difference is so simple that it can elude us. The successful ones just keep reducing the intensity and frequency of overages, and not necessarily in a linear fashion, meaning they keep going back to the new habits, emphasizing their superior value. YOU can be one of them. You are in training now, and no one knows when it will evolve into being easy enough that you accept that it's your default. So what if it takes awhile? Most successful losers actually take much longer than we like to think for it to become pretty much second nature. Try not to long for being an exception. That has what has tripped most of us up for years.

BTW, for a LONG time, that kind of S day was typical for me. I just clung to N days and the improvements they brought. You will have your own evolution. No one can predict it or guarantee it. And no one can do it for you. I know you've probably heard that before. I certainly did, but it took nearly 40 years to really get it. When I did, it didn't make it easy, but it did make it a lot easier.

The good news is you ARE doing it. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, oolala. You're right. This is where the commitment to to change habit really kicks in. I can't deny that I'm worried about my weight, but I feel so much relief about food especially on n days, that it has to be worth it.

It's so nice to order what I want from a restaurant, to not calculate the calories or points in my head. That is such a relief I am over the moon about that part.

I'm going to keep trusting that it will shake out. I feel like this is my only way to go.

Thanks for the encouragement and the hand holding!!

Lilybug
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FAILURE Ate a cinnamon roll today. Very stressful busy day.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oolala53 wrote:
The successful ones just keep reducing the intensity and frequency of overages, and not necessarily in a linear fashion, meaning they keep going back to the new habits, emphasizing their superior value.


Lilibug - I would say let those wise words from Oolala guide you. There is so much packed in that one sentence... Don't let the cinnamon rolls or stress get you. You just keep calmly returning to your new eating habits, over and over again. YOU CAN DO IT!!! Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Elyssa! And everyone. Sometimes stress take over like a panic. I want to eat or drink or smoke or do SOMETHING! (Didn't smoke and I poured a beer but drank just half of it. I ate cheese Nd crackers and a few chips and that was dinner. Just not feeling it.

But some days you just don't feel it. I'll probably never do it perfectly. Oh well. Still making progress, I think.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lilybug wrote:

But some days you just don't feel it. I'll probably never do it perfectly. Oh well. Still making progress, I think.


I think progress is more important than perfection with No-S. Seeking perfection tends to lead to giving up when a person misses out, but progress is forgiving--if you mess up, you can try again the next day and look at the overall positive direction.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point, Merry. It's getting better, although I have met setbacks. I've been n a painting workshop an driving an hour each way every day. Tomorrow is the last day and I'm exhausted, but happy! It's been great. I need more than food and drink as a hobby lol.

Thursday and Friday were probably FAILURES, but only just barely. Not eating out of control, but just too busy to be perfect, if that makes sense.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lilybug wrote:

Thursday and Friday were probably FAILURES, but only just barely. Not eating out of control, but just too busy to be perfect, if that makes sense.

totally!
this is why i love to write down my failures in detail... i really dont like tracking the food i eat, not even on s days (i want to undo the damage of calorie counting on my mind)... but i find that failures are important to write down and see how small they are most of the times... so it feels motivating rather than discouraging...

oh, and many long time noSers say that even they are not perfect even after all these years...
but it still works... Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saturday and Sunday were high s days. I had a donut and a half, Chocolate and a lot f it, sausage biscuit, etc. oh and alcohol after. Got back. So tired I had 2 moscow mules and a lite beer and several cigarettes. So exhausted! But stoked about painting!

Back to work yesterday and I was so tired I could barely function. Where is my energy? Another reason I'd like to loose weight. I look in the class and the older crowd is heavier. Some who are older are fit. I can see the difference in quality of life and I want the fit quality. I'm just not sure what I'm willing to do to get it! But I'm sure I'm willing to try to be more moderate.

Monday was a SUCCESS however. After the weekend + Of esssing there was a slight bump in getting back to habit. Feels so good to not hVe caved, although I ate plenty for my meals.

Still watching the low or no carb people melt away at work.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tuesday FAILURE. Did fine until dinner. I ate fish sticks and baguette with tomato salad. It would have been a success, but I went back and got more bread and a baby bel cheese.

I feel really bad. Bloated, extremely tired. I haven't been sleeping very well at all for a long time. I have taken an ambien the last two nights and it helps, but I still feel exhausted.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SUCCESS

feeling better today. I had more nutritious food.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FAILURE

had a bit of a second portion of pinto beans and cornbread that I had for dinner. I also got too full after. Afraid I got too hungry for dinner then wolfed it down.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SUCCESS

for Friday.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SUCCESS for Monday and 4thbof July is an s day. Ate a lot today!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lilybug wrote:

had a bit of a second portion of pinto beans and cornbread that I had for dinner.


Sorry you had a failure, but sounds yummy, how do you make your pinto beans?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use coon creek split shank ham hocks and sear after sautéing onions and celery. I add this to drained soaked pintos and put in slow cooker with a couple of inches of water covering. Toss in a bay leaf and cook all day. They were really good. I'm from ky so I love my beans!

I had another red day today but it was because my lunch was too measly. I ate a small pouch of oatmeal about 3. Chinese food for dinner. I'm still eating pretty big portions, but I'm trying to learn to hit the sweet spot of just enough to satisfy me until dinner while having a good appetite for the next meal.

SUCCESS for Wednesday
FAILURE for today
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My red days are still so much better than a normal day used to be for me that it's hard to feel too badly about it.

I like that you're experimenting to find the "sweet spot". It's a great goal.

You'll get there!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've not done well at all this week. One or two green days! I feel terrible. Gut is upset and I'm so tired. No energy.

Getting bummed about my weight too. It's creeping up and up 😨
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lilybug wrote:
I've not done well at all this week. One or two green days! I feel terrible. Gut is upset and I'm so tired. No energy.

Getting bummed about my weight too. It's creeping up and up 😨


Tomorrow is a new day. Try to make it green and go into the weekend on the upswing!
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