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vainglorious



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:38 am    Post subject: Vainglorious check-in thread Reply with quote

About me (health + no S)
I've never really dieted and I think mostly my relationship to food is already in a good place. However, last summer, after the second time I put on 10-15 pounds of weight basically overnight with no change to my diet or exercise, I was diagnosed with a chronic health condition (PCOS). Half the people with this condition become diabetic before age 40, and I really don't want that to be me. One of the things that is recommended for people with this condition is to eat three big meals and not snack, but I am an inveterate snacker. I also have a large sweet tooth. I did a two week long sugar fast (no added sugars whatsoever, but I ate apples, pears, sweet potatoes, etc) and it was really easy to not eat the sugar during a time I knew it was a no-no. However I didn't feel any better after restricting sugar, so I started eating it again. Much less of it, but it was annoying because I'd think "oh I'll limit myself" and then I wouldn't really. So when I heard about No S, it sounded like something that I could live with--I already hardly ever eat seconds, I did snack but it would be wise to stop, and I should also reduce sugar for my health but I'm bad at limiting myself without clear guidelines set.

I've already been following it for probably two weeks or so, and there have only been one day really where I snacked when I shouldn't have, and it was because family visiting threw my schedule off. I've been good about the sugar & seconds, except for that one family visiting day again (how can I refuse when someone offers to buy me dessert?).

To keep myself accountable (or try), I'm going to be posting progress here.
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vainglorious



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today's been good so far: three meals, no snacks, no sweets. I am somewhat worried though because I already ate dinner but I'll be awake for 4-5 more hours. I had to eat lunch two hours earlier than I would have liked due to school scheduling, and I'm worried that tomorrow is going to be even worse. :\

Still though, so far so good today!
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Merry



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome! I've occasionally eaten dinner that much before bedtime (actually, sometimes I'm quite the night owl & dinner is a lot before I go to bed!). It can be hard to get used to no nighttime snacking the first couple of months, but it starts to feel more normal as time goes on. Keep up the good work!
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vainglorious



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merry wrote:
Welcome! I've occasionally eaten dinner that much before bedtime (actually, sometimes I'm quite the night owl & dinner is a lot before I go to bed!). It can be hard to get used to no nighttime snacking the first couple of months, but it starts to feel more normal as time goes on. Keep up the good work!


Thanks! I'm looking forward to it getting easier. I didn't slip up and have any treats but I was so hungry the next morning when I woke up!

I forgot to check in yesterday! Oops. It was mostly successful. I did slip up with a sweet with my lunch, but it was really hard to resist--one of the campus groups was handing out Otter Pops and it was like 97 degrees so... But, I ate it with a bunch of really good food packed from home, so, not that bad.
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vainglorious



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

8/24: Success all around Smile

8/25: On track for now; have had two meals, one left to go. Haven't had any sweets or snacks, not even one little lick of the batter in the shortbread cookies I just made for partner's work. Will almost certainly be setting one aside for tomorrow though ;D
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

8/26 + 8/27 were S days, but there was no snacking and no seconds. Had a sweet and a half on the 26th and half a sweet on the 27th. Smile

Today has been good so far, I'm worried I'll get hungry before bed because dinner was relatively light and I had it on the early side but it's not likely to be too bad.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All good today, and spent some extra time in the kitchen making a big batch of food so I would be sure to be able to eat meals tomorrow too (long day).
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just try to remember that it's okay to sometimes have to go longer between meals or after dinner. It gives your body more of a reason to dip into its stores. We kinda want that... Smile But, it shouldn't be daily suffering.
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vainglorious



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oolala53 wrote:
Just try to remember that it's okay to sometimes have to go longer between meals or after dinner. It gives your body more of a reason to dip into its stores. We kinda want that... Smile But, it shouldn't be daily suffering.


Thanks for the reminder! Smile Yeah, I've been trying to be okay with that hungry feeling. It used to feel like the end of the world but even after a few weeks I'm getting used to it and not feeling so urgent. I'm finding that even when I am hungry for a while, the experience is rarely as bad as I thought it was before I drew the "no snacking" line.

Also: 8/31 all good! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SEPTEMBER
Arrow Arrow Arrow Arrow Arrow 👏 🎉
🎉 👏 Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green 🎉
👏 Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green 🍁 🍁 Mr. Green
Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green 🍁 🍁 23
24 25 26 27 🍁 🍁 30

🎉 = S Day (Labor Day weekend is all S days because I'll be traveling & visiting family; I'm going to try to keep Friday and Monday N days...but it is hard on the road)
Mr. Green = I was good on this N day
Rolling Eyes = I wasn't as good as I'd hoped on this N day
👏 = designated S day that turned into an N day (hey we can hope!)
🍁 = S day for fall; shifted to more closely match my weekends and social events since I love to do fall baking

Just a quick at-a-glance to press my happy dopamine buttons. ;D Mr. Green


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Merry



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cute buttons!
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vainglorious



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merry wrote:
Cute buttons!


Thanks Very Happy

So I'm back from my holiday weekend. I actually was able to keep Friday & Monday of Labor Day weekend N days, although Monday breakfast was a bunch of sweet food (fruits, jams, whipping cream, etc) that I'm really not used to eating so it felt like an S day. In fact it seemed like more sugar than most of the "sweets" I eat, because I ended up feeling sick although that may have just been the car ride (prone to carsickness).

Really glad to be back to my N day routines because eating a bunch of rich food, having seconds, etc., didn't feel all that great. (Although I will say the food was phenomenal--many great cooks in my family!) So far so good today.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny how what we were so sure was fun isn't. But we can sure keep getting fooled.

Eventually, there can be whole weekends with no s's. In my mind, they're still S days because the option is there. But it's perfectly possible to have enjoyable weekends s free.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oolala53 wrote:
Funny how what we were so sure was fun isn't. But we can sure keep getting fooled.


Sure can! I think for me it's definitely easier to get fooled when traveling / around family you don't get to see often, which are often on S days.

Today = all good. I was pressed for time and actually didn't eat all the lunch I had but still didn't get hungry for 6 hours or so. So maybe have been eating lunches that are larger than they need to be.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes we find these things out by accident.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oolala53 wrote:
Sometimes we find these things out by accident.


Wish I'd get helpful accidents like that more often!

9/8 - all good this day

Today's an S day. Haven't had any snacks or seconds but I have had some sweets--made sugar cookies. Pretty tasty but I think I am going to ask my partner to take the rest of them into work. They're kind of on the sweeter side.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today, all good.

Yesterday, though an S day, was converted into an N day. Hooray Smile

Considering the idea of taking away a weekend S and turning one of the midweek days (Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday) into an N day for fall so I don't feel deprived of doing fall baking. Also because it fits well with my shifted weekend schedule and midweek events. It would be temporary for fall. Been thinking about it for a little while, maybe I'll make a decision soon. Until it's official it's vanilla No S.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my mind, an S day is an S day whether I have an S or not. I think it keeps me from thinking I may have "earned" an S or an N day. But it is fun when you see that you can have a perfectly delicious day without S's.
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There is no S better than Vanilla No S.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know others have tried variations on this idea. I don't know how it worked out for them thought. I imagine that, in order for it to work successfully, it would have to be a consistent day. For example Wednesday and Saturday are "S" days every week. Not, Wednesday one week, Thursday the next and Tuesday the week after. My "S" days are Friday and Saturday and they have been for years but sometimes I wonder if I wouldn't be better off just making my "S" days the traditional Saturday and Sunday because sometimes I feel like I just have to think about it too much. The other issue that I sometimes have with it, is that I feel like I'm just trying to circumvent the rules - trying to find a work-around - so that I don't feel the bite of self restraint quite so strongly. One way or another, this No-S process requires self-restraint. Best of luck to you as you find your way.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oolala53 wrote:
In my mind, an S day is an S day whether I have an S or not. I think it keeps me from thinking I may have "earned" an S or an N day. But it is fun when you see that you can have a perfectly delicious day without S's.

Good point, I think for me it's more just a noting thing. Since I'm doing the calendar/check in thing anyway, might as well record that stuff while I'm here. Smile

gingerpie wrote:
I know others have tried variations on this idea. I don't know how it worked out for them thought. I imagine that, in order for it to work successfully, it would have to be a consistent day. For example Wednesday and Saturday are "S" days every week. Not, Wednesday one week, Thursday the next and Tuesday the week after. My "S" days are Friday and Saturday and they have been for years but sometimes I wonder if I wouldn't be better off just making my "S" days the traditional Saturday and Sunday because sometimes I feel like I just have to think about it too much. The other issue that I sometimes have with it, is that I feel like I'm just trying to circumvent the rules - trying to find a work-around - so that I don't feel the bite of self restraint quite so strongly. One way or another, this No-S process requires self-restraint. Best of luck to you as you find your way.

Yeah, I was planning to choose the two days and then stick to them. I think I might actually do two days together, Thursday and Friday, which more accurately reflect my weekend. They're also days that I do "weekend" socializing activities, like visit friends, have outings, etc., so I'd be able to bake my 2 recipes per week (yay!) and also distribute them much more easily than if I'd baked them on a Saturday or Sunday (yay!), thus reducing my overall amount of sweets as well as food waste (the last thing I baked I had to throw most of it away because it was stale by the time I had an event to bring it to :\). I think I'd still go back to traditional No S for the seasons I don't really having a baking "thing" for.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

13th - all good

I went ahead and made the change to S days on Thursday/Friday, so today was an S day, I baked some goodies. God rid of some with friends today and hopefully the rest with family tomorrow! Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All good today!

Had some nice S days, glad I changed it so I could eat with my family on Friday and give them my other baked goods. It's the first set of S days since I started No S where I actually maintained/dropped weight after the S days instead of gaining weight. Weight isn't really my preferred way to measure health but in lieu of a blood glucose test and whatever else the doctor does, it's what I have for a proxy! So anyway, small celebration there 🎉 It felt like the right amount of sweets, and not like I was just eating them because they were there and it's an S day and I had nowhere else to take them to.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sounds pretty stupendous.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oolala53 wrote:
That sounds pretty stupendous.


Ha! Yeah, I thought so too Very Happy

Everything good for the last few days. Yesterday I was out with friends and afraid it was going to turn into a Rolling Eyes day, but I turned the "snack" into a meal and declined the sweets so all good.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a weird schedule today so ended up eating lunch too early. Unfortunately hungry way before usual dinner time Sad I waited but it's some of the most unpleasant hunger I've had in a while.

But, all good here, so yay. Looking forward to S days Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Won't happen that often. Congrats for holding out!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good for you for waiting!

I find it weird how afraid I am of the slightest discomfort Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just a habit, to some degree reinforced by the culture. It's also partly the desire to avoid withdrawal. But whatever it is, your prefrontal cortex can be summoned to create the scarcity that would have just been the way it was a hundred years ago. No S a mild scarcity, one that countless people in the world would be happy to have.
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