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Amy3010



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I second what Oolala says - you're going to do it! Very Happy
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ZippaDee



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anyone with a Tigger Avatar will always be enthusiastically encouraged by me!


Laughing Laughing Who doesn't love Tigger? Thanks for the encouragement!

Thanks for the well wishes Bluebell! They are very much appreciated!

Oolala said:

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I believe you are one of the ones who are going to beat the odds. Look forward to realizing next January that you have a decent year under your belt-rather than something else.


Yes! Thank you!! I AM going to do it! Thank you for believing in me!....and you too Amy! And, I am realizing that failure to change overeating is the norm. It is simple, but oh so HARD!! My weight watcher meeting that I have attended on and off over the years is filled with many of the same familiar faces that have beeen caught in the same vicious cycle as I have. I AM going to beat the odds and stop the insanity!

Yesterday was GREEN! Mr. Green I am on my way one day at a time!

ONWARD >>>
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A Flower does not think of competing with the flower next to it. It just blooms!

Month 1: Down 7.2 lbs

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ZippaDee



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here for a check in. 2018 is off to a good start. I started on Jan. 8, so tomorrow will be day 21. I have had no red days during that time. Not worried about wild S day yet. Just focusing on staying green on N days.

Things I have noticed....
* The pull to stop for hot cocoa before work has drastically decreased!...SO much easier than the first week!
* It is getting easier to sit through a basketball game without popcorn.
* The hours after work before dinner are getting easier as well. I keep telling myself that every time I stay strong I am building my good habit muscles!
*I am realizing that I can be satisfied...maybe even feel better with less food on my plate. Last night we went out to eat before a basketball game. I ordered a chicken wrap and ate only half and was very comfortable and satisfied! I would have been over full if I had eaten the other half.

I have been reading the No S book again. This quote from the book stood out to me this week:

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Don't let the complicated perfect be the enemy of the simple good enough


I have a history of perfectionism. It is something I learned in childhood. I think those tendencies are one of the reasons this weight loss journey has been such a struggle for me. The idea that if I can't "be perfect" forget it! I know this is wrong thinking and I am working on it!

I did cancel my membership to weight watchers. It was a difficult thing to do! Hard to explain why?! My actual membership does not expire until Feb. So, I still do get on the ww app occasionally. Baby steps. I actually feel accomplished to still be here on Jan. 27!! And, I WILL be here on Jan.27, 2019!

Hubby is still hanging in there with me. YAHOO!! So much easier when we are on the same page....and neither of us is eating popcorn at the basketball game! Laughing

ONWARD>>
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"Rivers know this: There is no hurry. We shall get there some day." ~Winnie the Pooh ~

A Flower does not think of competing with the flower next to it. It just blooms!

Month 1: Down 7.2 lbs

Diets Don't Work.


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ZippaDee



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And, btw....it is nice to be able to go out to a restaurant for a meal without having a total meltdown in my head because I don't know how many points are in anything!! That takes the fun out of the whole experience in my opinion!!
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"Rivers know this: There is no hurry. We shall get there some day." ~Winnie the Pooh ~

A Flower does not think of competing with the flower next to it. It just blooms!

Month 1: Down 7.2 lbs

Diets Don't Work.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not just your opinion. You don't need to know how many points are in anything. You'll figure out with a fair amount of practice over time what was too much about two hours after the meal. Unless you try to take a shortcut.
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Imogen Morley



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZippaDee, I second what you said about not having to count points! Every SAD is mentally taxing. I'm always amazed at how much free space I have in my head once I stick to straight vanilla. Even mods seem to drain my energy too much. They work for a time, yes... but are not sustainable in the long run.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Month One Update:

I've had a good first month. As of Feb. 8th I have been at this a month. So far, so good. I am feeling at peace.....hmmmm??....like it is not an "emergency" that I get this down perfectly right NOW! It is a process and it will take time and that is ok. That feeling is very freeing! I am a natural perfectionist, so this is HUGE!

I have deleted all of my facebook ww groups. I am no longer a member of weight watchers. I no longer have access to "connect", which is the weight watchers online community. And, what has all of this meant to me?....FREEDOM! Freedom in my head!! More space in my head for LIFE! Ahhhhh! What a relief!

Just because this way of eating is freeing and simple does not mean that it is easy. I have struggled this past week. I spent several days away from home with my sister. My sister is my best friend. The reason I was away with her is because she made the decision to undergo a surgery....the gastric sleeve. I voiced my concerns during her decision making process. I told her though that once she made a decision that I would support her no matter what. So, I am there for her! It has been difficult watching her in pain and unable to eat. Sad With all of that going on and my topsy turvy schedule....and being away from home, which is stressful for me...and Valentines Day, etc. etc. I found myself with several red days this week. It's ok. I am learning from them. Really...NO MATTER WHAT is happening in life I can still abide by the simple rules of NO S....I just have to DO IT! I will get there!

One thing I am still struggling with....How to Say "No Thank You" when someone has specifically made you or is offering you a special treat. Ugh. Sometimes that is really tough! For Example, a 1st grade student brings you a treat that she has had her mother make especially for you because she knows you love it. Or when my Dad offers me something special....it is how he shows his love and he is super sensitive and would be hurt if I don't partake. sigh... I need to figure out these situations.

Lots of things are much easier than they were at first
bypassing hot chocolate in the mornings
bypassing popcorn at basketball games
not snacking between lunch and supper

As a bonus I have lost 7.2 lbs this first month.

ONWARD Arrow Arrow
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"Rivers know this: There is no hurry. We shall get there some day." ~Winnie the Pooh ~

A Flower does not think of competing with the flower next to it. It just blooms!

Month 1: Down 7.2 lbs

Diets Don't Work.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had started a response but accidentally closed the page before I finished. Suffice it to say I think your changes are great and moving along wonderfully. I think when people want all the problems over in 12 weeks like so many body transformation programs promise, they give up too soon.

I read something in Stephen Guyenet's exhaustive book on the brain's role in overeating and obesity about how research is now showing that weight loss surgery has come a long way and actually brings about metabolic changes that for the very obese are often better than for those people who diet and exercise. Sure there are problems, but so are there with weighing a hundred pounds more than "normal!" One of the disappointments for the patients is that they can rarely get as slim as they dream. It's just as hard for them to lose beyond the projected loss (from stats) as for anyone. But the body does appear to actually accept a new set point, which is not typical and which is often responsible for creating a drive to refeed for dieters who lower calories a lot by just about any means. Oh, I'm telling too much. And are there exceptions to that? YES! Always! But exceptions are just that: a very small minority and very hard to replicate.
Onwards!
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/12/7/16587316/bariatric-surgery-weight-loss-lap-band
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Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 8 years & counting
Age 64
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
Dec/17 23.8

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi ZippaDee Tigger!

Keep Bouncing, Girl!

You are a great sister for loving her despite the inner turmoil (on so many levels) that her decision brought you. Good job!

I just felt my heart kind of twist when I read your entry. Your sister is lucky to have you!

Congrats on your downward weight trend.

Regarding the "tough situations", I think sometimes people with great empathy (like you), or may I be so bold/teasing -- codependent (is this you? not sure but many of us are!!) -- find it harder to say no. I'll tell you what has worked for me: they WILL NOT remember later if we said no. They won't dwell on it near as much as we did!!! (Honestly if they do they have their own junk to deal with). Here's what I would do: "Thank you, Amazing FIRST GRADER! I am so excited to eat this!!!!! I always eat my sweets on the weekends, and this will be the FIRST one I try!!!!" I actually use this method with my 8-year old. Father: Thank you Dad!! You are the best dad ever!! I can't wait to try this!" And then I'd leave it at that. If he pressured, he'd get the same treatment I gave to the little one -- "Dad, I will have this FIRST thing on my S Day! Yay!"

OK, I sound a bit cold writing all that. But I guess I've just conditioned my brain to think that those people don't have to live in my body. Their own needs are momentary; I have to live long-term with my body. For less intense situations (you did give two really hard situations!) I just tell myself nobody cares. I'm making this a big deal in my mind, but no one else gives a flying flip what I ate.
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ZippaDee



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oolala...Thanks so much for your constant encouragement! You are a wonderful cheer leader! Very Happy

I know that there are many positives associated with the bariatric surgeries. My sister has obviously researched it WAY more than I have! My concerns about it I think are just the normal concerns that you would have for someone that you love (although I would never choose it for myself either!).....you can never go back! It is a permanent thing. If you have complications you are stuck with them for life! We really don't know what this means long term because it is a fairly new procedure (the sleeve). Why mess with something that is not broken. I'll stop there now because my concerns are obviously a mute point now since she opted to do it. I just hope and pray that all goes smoothly for her and she sees the results that she desires!

Auto....thanks so much for your encouragement as well! It means so much!

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But I guess I've just conditioned my brain to think that those people don't have to live in my body. Their own needs are momentary; I have to live long-term with my body. For less intense situations (you did give two really hard situations!) I just tell myself nobody cares. I'm making this a big deal in my mind, but no one else gives a flying flip what I ate.


Thanks and YES! I need to get myself to this point! I need to condition my brain. Conditioning is all about practicing right? I am sure I will have many opportunities to practice. Ha!

I have never considered the "codependent" thing?? I will have to research this more and consider it. I am a very empathetic person though....yes!

Thanks Ladies!
ONWARD Arrow
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A Flower does not think of competing with the flower next to it. It just blooms!

Month 1: Down 7.2 lbs

Diets Don't Work.
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