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lpearlmom



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah check it out bluebell. It's pretty good but ignore the diet advice (lots of snacking).

Well dropped my daughter off & cried all the way home (25 mins). Part of what was hard is that it's a different school than the rest of her friends and it's downtown on a busy street. Just felt weird dropping her off in this strange place but she texted me at lunch and said everything was good.

It's an Art school and I get the sense that she feels very comfortable there already. I'm guessing there's a lot of quirky, creative, progressive types there. I think it'll be a good experience. The classes only have 9-15 kids in ea class. Pretty cool.

My weight is up, up Up but at least I had 2 Green Day's.

Soooo tired. Gnight.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love those delaying tactics! I think I might steal those ideas! Or buy the book... Smile

High schooler. Wow. Seems like just yesterday she was 10 and still cuddling in bed with you. Maybe she still does? Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah it's great book! Just ignore the food/eating section. He mainly seems to think giving up "processed foods" will cause the extra weight to come off and he encourages snacking on fruit all day long.

https://www.amazon.com/Mini-Habits-Weight-Loss-Suffering-ebook/dp/B01N0FR4AX/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8

***WARNING: SERIOUS VENT AHEAD!!!!!

Ugh, having a bad day and it's only 8:30 in the morning. I weighed myself and my weight is still up (-34.2 lbs). I can't help but feel a little hopeless. Is this the start of me gaining all the weight back? My hunger is up and food just smells extra good & tempting these days. Is this my body's way of trying to regain everything? Is this why so many weight loss attempt's fail? Ugh, okay trying to pull myself out of this funk. I did get my period yesterday (finally) but my weight is still up. Maybe just give it another day. Plus I ate salty food last night (we ate out). It just feels so unfair some how. Why is this so hard?

Plus, my youngest daughter (12) saw her schedule online and it doesn't look like she's in advanced English this year. I don't understand because she got straight As and tested at a college reading level. I'm guessing it was because she didn't do well on her state tests (although she usually does) but this seems so unfair. Shouldn't it only matter if she can handle the course load? Clearly she can as proved over the last few years.

Lastly, this is stupid but I hate my hair right now. My hairdresser cut it SUPER short and I feel masculine and old and ugh.....

Okay time to go exercise and dig myself out of this hole. Sorry for rant.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The part about your hair is not stupid. The same thing happened to me and I feel so gross! Hang in there, it will grow! =)
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you splandrea! Sometimes I like it but often I don't. People have weird reactions to it as well. Some people acknowledge my hair cut but don't say it looks nice like just ignore it if you're not going to at least be polite. I saw my friend I hadn't seen in awhile and she said "do you like your hair?" I was thinking why, should I not like it? Odd. I saw a picture of me the other day when I had a short bob and I was 15 lbs thinner. I just want that person back. I sound pathetic I know. I'll get past it.

On the upside, I emailed the principal about my youngest daughter & he called me back this evening. He told me there had been a glitch in the computer & everyone got the wrong schedules. Turns out she is in the high ELA class. *phew* I was not looking forward to that fight. Also, my oldest is loving high school. It's such a good fit for her. I'm very happy for her.

Also, we decided to go to Cancun for my 50th bday next year and I'm pretty excited about that. Everything is going pretty well except for the body/hair dept. I should be able to rise above such meaningless things. Oh well. [/url]
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay the haircut is already looking a bit better but I'm beyond frustrated with the scale. I've had a green week and have been eating pretty light but the scale is stuck at -35 lbs ( my lowest is -50lbs). That's has got to be some kind of hormonal or water rention thing, right?

We're going to Las Vegas in November with our friend whose wife is gorgeous. I'm being shallow but I really want to be -50 lbs by then. I just think I will feel so much more confident.

Other than that things are good. The girls are thriving in school and I'm completely entrenched in my political groups. Crazy time in history. I hope our democracy survives. I hope the human race survives actually. *sigh*. Easier to worry about a number on the scale actually.

Break: smoothie
Lunch: small salad, banana, nectarine, plum, 🍇
Dinner; fish tacos, chips, beans, 1/2 glass wine 🍷

Exercise: short walk with 🐶.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New haircuts always require some getting used to! Smile
How are you doing all those little emojis? Nice touch.
And so sorry about that stupid scale. I feel your pain.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel a little scared for you. What if you do all the "right" things and the weight doesn't come off at the speed you'd like? I hope you can find some satisfaction from the discipline and some vitality from the combo of eating moderately and moving. I always feel sexier when I'm eating moderately and even a little lightly a few days a week.

Not that I'm doing that now. Who knows if I would be better at it if I knew I had a sexual outlet? And I don't mean an electric outlet. Shocked Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still here & still struggling. My body is hanging on to this new weight with dear life. No idea why as my eating continues to be very light. But yes I'm going to need a non-weight related goal or I'm going to drive myself crazy. Time to rethink things.

Everything else is going well though. Kids, marriage, friends etc. Oh and Tuesday Trump is coming to Phoenix even though the mayor asked him not to come. I'm very nervous but plan to be outside protesting. Hopefully things will remain peaceful. 🙏

Auto: my iPad was stolen so having to do everything on my 📱 So using emojis on my 🔑 board. I'll replace it st some ☝️ .
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lpearlmom wrote:
Still here & still struggling. My body is hanging on to this new weight with dear life. No idea why as my eating continues to be very light. But yes I'm going to need a non-weight related goal or I'm going to drive myself crazy. Time to rethink things.

Everything else is going well though. Kids, marriage, friends etc.


I'm sorry--that's really frustrating.

The bolded is pretty great though--the important things in life, right?

(((Hugs))) Hang in there! You went a whole year just with habits without losing as I recall...maybe you can look back to some of the goals you had then that kept you going for this time?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know I'm a broken record but the non-scale motivations have always been what sustained me. I don't want to offer un-guaranteed hope, but my drops in weight almost always happened well into periods of lighter eating, not right up front. I enjoyed the lighter eating, too. That's the only reason I found out the weight loss followed, but it wasn't the motivation. The body will sometimes push back after awhile, even though it's enjoyable just because that's often what it does, or so I think. I just can't torture myself with thinking there's a magic formula to make it all carefree, short of moving to France or Italy. That's not out of the question, but not for weight loss!

I think you're brave to go to protest. Who knows who is going to show up and with what justifications for their behavior? But the odds are good it will be safe for most.

Of course you've seen the Tina Fey skit from SNL on eating cake. (She did it on an S day. )
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Merry. That's good advice. I remember focusing on the fact that I was sticking to something (I have commitment issues) and that I could visually see I wasn't overeating anymore. It also felt great not to constantly obsess over food. I guess I've taken that for granted till as of late that is.

Oolala: I appreciate the "broken record" because it's true. I wish I didn't need to be reminded of it so often. Honestly, the hardest thing about this recent weight gain (about 5-7 lbs) is that I'm embarrassed to see people that gushed over my weight loss. But honestly, it's one of those things that people will follow my lead on. If I'm confident & not making a big deal about it, nobody else will either. In fact, they may not even notice.

So after a couple weeks of stressing out and trying to figure out how to get this weight off (plus some) I realized that this kind of thinking is how I used to live, and it's making me miserable. Do I really deserve to be miserable just because I put on a few pounds? I don't think so. What I decided is I just need to get back to NoS and be honest about sticking to it. If I'm honest, I've been skipping meals but not sticking to NoS which really just ends up making me a bit crazy.

I realized it's been six years since I've even read the Nos book so I dusted that off (pulled it out of my kindle archives) and gave it a quick re-read. Wow, does it make a whole lot of commonsense and I remember why I was attracted to this diet in the first place. The parts about strictness making it easier in the long run and focusing on habit not scale (I know you've been saying this forever oolala Embarassed ) finally came together in a way that makes sense.

All I can do is focus on what I can control. The scale is a fickle beast so it's not that. The habits are clearly definable and within my control so I can focus on that. I eventually want to try for 90 green days with the expectation that I will slip up a lot before reaching that goal. I'm going to make sure I do my job with sticking to NoS and let go of the rest. It doesn't mean I'll stop wanting to be thinner but I need to stop trying to control it. I'll put my energy towards sticking to the rules and hope my body does it's part.

And this is where I'd usually say that if the scale doesn't cooperate, I'll tweak things but honestly that sends me into a bit of a panic. I hear diet & restriction and it puts me into Sunday Night Before a New Diet Binge mode. This is all I'm willing to do right now and I need to be honest about it.

I'm willing to...

1. eat on 3 small plates,
2. eat healthy fairly light meals,
3. do a minimal amount of exercise (at least 1 sit-up & 1 30 sec HIIT
4. eat freggies w/ each meal
5. drink a large bottle of water each day
6. Be VERY strict with my NoS rules

I'm not yet willing to....

1. Skip breakfast
2. Include fasting days
3. Force myself to long intense exercise periods
4. cut out all alcohol
5. Drink my tea black

It doesn't mean I might not be wanting to do those things later on. I never thought I'd be ready to add freggies to every meal or go to smaller plates but now it's a no brainer. I force tweaks when I'm not ready, it will just backfire on me.

Anyway so that's where I'm at, ready to take this NoS thing a bit more serious i guess. That may sound weird considering how long I've been doing it but I guess I've always kind of regarded NoS as kind of something Reinhard got lucky by stumbling upon. I didn't realize how well thought out it really is. I guess that's kind of insulting to Reinhard but figured it was more something he intuitively discovered. Having the solid reasons for each idea, does help me though.

As far as going to the protest on Monday, I feel like I can't stay home. Maybe it's a bit reckless of me but I can't help thinking about all the people that have to be brave everyday just because of the color of their skin or the accent of their voice. Surely I can be brave for one day.

Okay wish me luck!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seeing what you're willing to do and not do is so...crisp! Right along the concept of bright lines, and I don't mean the big online diet program.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ipearlmom, I have been following your check in, I didn't feel I had anything really helpful to say, but I am so pleased that you seem to have found a way to work through your recent struggles.
Regarding the few pounds weight gain, I think you're right on the money when you say that others won't care, or even notice. When I've had a little panic about the numbers on the scale, I always ask myself 'Is anyone going to know apart from me?' Of course the answer is no, and the knowledge of that helps me relax again. Which in turn allows me to give NoS my full attention.
I think your lists are clear and concise, and will give you a workable framework. Refocusing on the basics sounds like such a solid plan. Good luck over the next few weeks and months, I know you can do this!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the support you guys!

Today was pretty good although I did overdo it at dinner. I just feel so lethargic when I overeat. I'm looking forward to getting back on track tomorrow.

Break: 2 pieces of toast, 2 veggie sausages, herbal coffee
Lunch: double veggie burger on sandwich thin w/ avocado
Snack: boba, 4 figs
Dinner: pastrami sandwich, chips
Dessert: 3 lollipops

Still trying to figure out these dang S days.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Curious. Were you hungry for dinner?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just catching up on your thread, love your well thought out ideas after re-reading the book. Could be time for me to re-read too! Pulling for you over here in Oz!

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As far as going to the protest on Monday, I feel like I can't stay home. Maybe it's a bit reckless of me but I can't help thinking about all the people that have to be brave everyday just because of the color of their skin or the accent of their voice. Surely I can be brave for one day.

This is beautiful, Linda. To paraphrase Christy Moore, only the very safe can decide to stay home and eat cake. Jokes and satire are fine for entertainment, but getting out on the street, supporting candidates and getting out the vote, which you are doing, are the real means of peaceful change. Very best wishes for Tuesday.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Iron! I'm getting a little more nervous but we're going as a group so I'm sure it'll be okay.

Green Day!! I was very strict w the rules and it felt great. I even got other people to be my tasters when making dinner.

Break: smoothie
Lunch: vegan Brussel sprout Cesear salad, iced chai
Dinner: chickpea curry w quinoa, plain yogurt w/ fruit, tea

Exercise: biked 4 1/2 miles; walked dogs 15 mins.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure going as a group would protect anyone. But the odds are with any one person attending.

I didn't read any news on it, but I hope it stayed peaceful. Just read a chilling article on how anti-Nazi German protesters actually helped make them more powerful. And the comments afterward proved the author's point.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm home safe & sound! Was a great experience although I heard they pepper sprayed the crowd after we left. Not sure why. Everyone was very peaceful except a few Trump supported who were trying to start a fight.

To see all those ppl there was very uplifting. I'm exhausted & feel very good about my decision to go.

Another Green Day too. Woot!

Break: smoothie
Lunch: oatmeal w fruit & nuts, chai
Dinner: falafel sandwich & lentil soup.

Exercise: 5 mile bike 🚴; walked all over for protest. Exhausted.

Decided to try default meals. Smoothie for breakfast & I actually like Reinhardt optimized oatmeal lunch idea so trying it. My default for going out for dinner & lunch will be salads. I'll save the richer food for S days.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linda, hope all went well.

oolala, first rule of internet articles (or Youtube videos for that matter) - don't read the comments Smile
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Thx iron! Was a tremendous turn out ! I agree about comments. Either way I'll continue to protest.
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oops, must have been posting at the same time Smile

So good to hear!
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I can't believe I never thought of having default N day dining out meals. I think soup-ish things could be options in winter, such as we have.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm finally back online--loved your thoughts posted after re-reading the book! Good for you!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yah, I hate sitting in restaurant trying to decide if I should get something heavier just because I'm out or eat my normal lighter N day way. On an S day, it's a no-brainer. I want N days to be an no brainer too.

Btw, Oolala just wanted to tell we don't protest to try to change people's minds so much, but to help motivate people to get active in politics. This harvard study shows that this is effective actually: https://qz.com/901411/political-protests-are-effective-but-not-for-the-reason-you-think/

(Luckily, there were no KKK groups there.)

Thanks Merry! Glad you're back. Btw, I love your new tag line.

Today was good. A full week of green days--woot! That feels pretty good. I didn't weigh myself this week so was able to just focus on how it feels good to eat moderately and to keep my commitment. I'm going to try weighing myself just once a month. I haven't been able to go that long without weighing in the recent past but I realize it's easier to do when I'm having green days. When I'm struggling sometimes it's a good reality check as I tend to imagine things are worse (or better if I'm in denial mode) than they really are.

I also like how Reinhard points out that being ridiculously strict with a rule can be kind of fun. It's like a game and feels good to be so clear about something. That's what I did this week. I took the rules very literally which worked well for me.

I was also able to get up early a few days this week and go bike riding w/ my dh. So hard to get up but dang does it feel good to start the day off that way. I'm feeling pretty good.

Break: Smoothie
Lunch: kale and quinoa salad, large sf chai
dinner: bowl of enchilada soup, bean chips w/ guac, small bowl of muesli and fruit,, glass of wine

(looks like a lot of food but was little bits on a small plate. I put my bowls on my small plate. )
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congratulations on a green week, and for hanging on in there through the tough times. Onwards! Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Bluebell!

Today was pretty good. My only rules for today was to have some planned treats and not to eat to the point of feeling sick. Sounds like a low bar but it helps me to stay at least somewhat mindful. Knowing I have some planned treats makes snacking randomly less desirable.

I had a very mellow day. My younger daughter is at a sleepover and my older daughter was exhausted from a sleepover last night. I mostly watched tv while doing a text bank for a local candidate.

I saw that the white supremacy rally in san fran was cancelled because they were afraid of counter-protesting. Woot!

Break: 4 Palmiers, coffee
lunch:1/2 turkey & avo sandwich, bbq chips
snack: 2 lolipops, chai, other 1/2 sandwich
dinner: bowl of enchilada soup, chips
dessert: pecan bar, glass of milk

A lot of food, yes but I don't feel sick.

Tomorrow's planned treats--froyo, popcorn, boba.
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Okay, today I feel sick. Blech...I feel so lethargic and my heads hurt.

It's amazing how much better I feel on the days I get a morning ride in and stick to my three meals. It's like night and day. I did manage to stop myself at one point when I was eating chips and guacamole. I told myself "you know you don't need to keep eating, you can just call it a night." It was kind of a relief. I do a lot of eating because I can and wanting to get all my treats in. I need to remind myself I can have more treats the following weekend.

Looking forward to having an N day!

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cookie, part of soft pretzel, large chai
chipotle salad w/ chicken, chips and guac, margarita
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Good on you for being aware and stopping when it wasn't pleasurable anymore! I often have the same weird thinking on a Sunday night "gotta get my treats", even after 5 years of having the weekend roll around every week Smile

I often have an odd headache in the evenings at the end of S days, which I think could be sugar?
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I have that "gotta get my treats in" thing too. Hoping someday I'll overcome that! Sometimes I can say, "I'll see xyz treat again" and that will work...other times I don't do so well though!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Merry & Iron! Good to know I'm not alone. I really need to figure out how to enjoy my treats more on S days.

Today was good but I felt SO hungry. Mondays are always tough after a day of gorging.

Breakfast: date & banana smoothie, "coffee"
Lunch: TJ chicken & noodle salad, apple
Dinner: two beet burgers, sweet pot fries, 3 figs, glass wine

exercise: 15 min walk, evening swim
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Green Day!

Break: smoothie
lunch: several pieces sushi, miso soup, sf chai
Dinner: pesto chicken, cauliflower mash, salad, fruit and yogurt, wine

Exercise: bike 6.7 miles
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Nice work Linda! Lots of exercise this week Smile
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+3 lbs aaaaarrrghhh!

Weighed myself to get a monthly weight. Still up despite exercise and Green Day's. :/ I know, I know....patience. 😒

(Thx iron for encouragement.)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it probably means you're more likely to go down than up.

I have a theory that heat makes the body want to hold on to all the water it can. Probably cockeyed, since it releases sweat that gets dried off so fast we don't know it. But unless I am eating very lightly, I don't get the effect on my feet where the metatarsals show, which we equate with thinness. My feet even seem to swell more, even in our driest heat.

Oh, to live in a time and place where none of this had meaning!
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Well, I'm going to cling to that possibility for now. It's still in the triple digits. Ugh.

Well, I ended up having a red day but nothing drastic. We took the girls out for a nice dinner and ended up sharing some appetizers. I tried to tell myself it was virtual plating but I ate a whole plate of food on top of that and then of course helped myself to a couple of bites of dessert.

It's pretty laughable at how many different plans I've tried for my S days but yes, I'm trying another one. I just want to be able to enjoy some treats without feeling ill. That should be possible, no?

My S plan is to be very strict with my three meals and allow 3 extra small plates of food on top of that at mid-morning, mid-afternoon and 1 at dessert. No picking or snacking outside of that. Going out to dinner I can relax any rules because I actually tend to nagivate eating well at restaurants.

I've decided to award myself with a green day if I stick to this plan on S days, but if I fail it's a yellow not a red. That'll be the difference. Okay, we'll see. So far nothing has stuck for S days.

Oh I've been having a lot of stress. I stupidly agreed to be the co-chair for two activists groups and I really have regretted taking on the 2nd position. The first group is an Indivisible group I started and I really enjoy it. The 2nd one is a Stronger Together group and it is pretty thankless.

I finally had enough and told my co-chair I wanted to reduce my duties. She seemed annoyed or maybe just confused in her email and my stress rose. My stomach was in knots for days and I felt like I just needed to end it. Well, my co-chair was not easy to break up with. I tried to explain it but she took it as an attack on her when it really wasn't anything she had done.

Ugh, she called me today and just want to re-hash everything. The whole thing felt just so uncomfortable and I have so much guilt about the whole thing. Not for leaving but for doing it so suddenly and not very eloquently. I feel like this lady hates me now and she's really very sweet. The thing is the activist world in AZ is pretty small. It's really not smart to burn any bridges. Ah well, I thought I'd avoided all this stuff but not having a proper job. Guess not.

Break: smoothie, fruit, "coffee"
Lunch: large salad, 4 pieces of sushi, large sf chai
Dinner: split eggplant dip and baked goat cheese; large caesar salad w/ salmon, couple bites toffee pudding, glass of wine, cocktail

exercise: 25 min walk

looks more like an S day. Oh well. I think I'm going to have to cut back on my drinks at some point.
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I was a volunteer usher for a prestigious theater in town (one which has a waiting list of 500 people for ushers.) I had got on the team when there was a different team captain and a woman inherited the spot. I did have a few screwups and it was during the time I was teaching advanced students and was extremely overwhelmed. She called and left messages over and over to get in touch with her. Then she wanted to rake me over the coals over and over. I know she wanted me to say that it would never happen again, but how could I say that in all honesty? The screw ups weren't on purpose. I did apologize over and over. Finally, I said, you know, I've apologized several times and I'm don't know what you want. I can't change the past. It seems I'm not meeting your standard for the volunteer team. I'm willing to part ways." She went back and started complaining about my behavior again! For some reason, she didn't want it to come to that. But she finally relented. Honestly, I was so busy at that time and I don't care what reputation that theater has, some of those shows were boring. Not that I won't consider trying to get on a different team when I retire. I hear the Shakespeare plays, which the theater complex was founded for, are the least popular. I'd be interested in those. Though we have to be there 90 minutes early, and then we spend most of the time sitting around.

Anyway, you've probably done all you can now.
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Yeah, sometimes interacting with other humans is so painfully awkward. I thought about sending her an email after our conversation because she took so much of what I said the wrong way, but then I thought I should probably just end it. Can I just avoid everyone besides my family? Or maybe just a small break then.

I did stick to my S day plan, but still feel ick. Too many carbs, I think. Plus, was a very lazy day. I basically did nothing other than the bills. Hopefully tomorrow will be a little more productive.

Break: museli and fruit
snack: bagel w/ cream cheese
lunch: small bag of baked chips w/ s. cream, Large sf chai
dinner: avocado toast w/ salmon; 2 deviled eggs
dessert: 2 lollipops and a 1/2 glass of wine.
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I think I know now why people become hermits, though one of my friends calls it being reclusive. He admits he doesn't get much satisfaction from interacting on personal basis with many people. The fascinating thing to me is that he feels very little regret or guilt or anything over it. An interesting thing is that he has said he doesn't know what he'll do when his mother dies because he is closest to her of anyone. But he insists he can't retire, yet,his mother is now in a facility because she can't live on her own. He has also admitted that he could work anywhere, but he is hundreds of miles from her. I know she would really like to see him more. I don't mean he should have moved in to take care of her, but just to live near enough to visit a few times a week. I wonder if it will occur to him after she's gone.
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Yeah, I sometimes think it'd be easier not to have friends but I think about how that'l probably leave me all alone at some point. I usually do really well at the beginning of friendships. Then the honeymoon stage ends. I guess my expectation are too high. It's all good. I just need to step back for a bit sometimes.

Went off my plan a bit today. Not too bad. I still think it's a pretty good plan. I feel icky though. Lethargic and chubby. Of course I had to run into an old friend at the movies tonight who lost a bunch of weight and looks great. She also went on about her daughter (same age as my oldest) how she barely gets any sleep because she's in all these AP classes plus doing plays. That was fun!

Breakfast: Breakfast sandwich , fruit, "coffee"
snack: fruit, handful of nuts
Lunch: cheese and veggie melted sandwich
snack: piece of banana bread
Dinner: lentil soup, salad
snack/dessert: popcorn, glass of wine, 2 lollipops

Feels like my whole day was centered around food.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm asking a few longtimers if they remember someone who posted about the website Eat Like a Normal Person. I thought there was a thread named for it, but my eyes are crossing looking for it. I avoided the site for a long time because I thought it would be too much like IE. It's not that bad but the freedom and joy she promises up front I can imagine would set some people up. No one can predict how easy something will be for someone else. Anyway, I won't get into a critique of it here. Do you remember reading a post about it?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the link. I remember the original post but I don't remember where it was.

http://www.eatlikeanormalperson.com/how-to-eat-like-a-normal-person/

I like some of what she has to to say but I doubt if it's for everyone.
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I wanted to write to the person who commented. She probably called her thread something else.

I did take a look at the site and it did actually reignite the sense of the price paid for unreined in overdoing it, especially of junk food. I think you don't eat much junk food, but I had fallen back into ingesting a lot of bread, Cheezits, Cheetos, and sweets, to name a few things. It's helped me the last couple of days and I feel determined to keep the week sane. I need to get over the hump.

What I didn't like is that she promised such ecstasy and instant release. It just reminds me of diet books. She gets a ton of traffic and I'm sure people get all excited, but then what? What happens three months, six months, a year from now? If you imply that people won't fail, or have a strategy for it, it's too easy for them to give up. Not that she won't have her successes. When a ton of people try something, it's going to work for someone. I got other stuff, but it's not as if you invited an analysis!
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Linda, I like your signature line tracking GD's in a row. I think the same way, but need to get my butt in gear. Trace
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:35 pm    Post subject: Eat like a normal person Reply with quote

I wonder if it was me--? I've read that site, and I thought there was a lot of sense in it. But then I'm probably putting myself in an echo chamber Smile I've been drawn to the no-diet approach since Jane Brody described how she lost 35 pounds a million years ago doing what was basically No-S, only with a little bit of a sweet daily instead of S days. Of course back then fat was the villain.

To be honest, the best luck I've had with weight loss was Five Factor, which is clean eating 6 days with a cheat day, five meals a day. I'm a convert of three meals (normal A1C! hallelujiah!) but I'm trying to get back to clean eating, because I feel better on it and let's face it, at 51, I'm not likely to lose weight otherwise.

I suspect the ecstasy comes from the dramatic relief people feel when they don't have to diet anymore, don't you think? I always go through a bit of that when I find something I think it finally going to solve the problem. Maybe the real victory I can point to after 25 years of being overweight (thank you, first child!) is that I pretty much avoided the "and then some" problem. Although now that the Meno Fairy has arrived, we'll see if that holds true.

As we NoSers are aware, there is quite a bit of alarming evidence that sharp calorie restriction contributes to weight gain over time. So the better you are at disciplining and corralling yourself, the worse your problem will ultimately be? Bummer, man.
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Thanks whose! I haven't been doing so great this week either. :/

Oolala, I do remember that website. It's interesting for sure but I found it a little confusing. There's not a whole lot of direction and not sure how much scientific sense it makes. So yeah I agree with you.

Yeah, I don't eat junk food unless it's at a party or something. My mom was a hippie and into healthy eating so nothing like that was allowed. I think my tastes buds just adapted to it. Of course, overeating is a whole different story. I feel a little lighter today although I'm still not weighing. A lot of the bloat seems to be gone. I'm pretty sure this recent weight gain is hormone related. Or maybe it's because I've been eating more carbs lately?

Of course, just as I was starting to feel a bit better about my body, DH told me that in order to improve my reflux I should start losing lots and lots of weight. Wow, he makes it sounds like I'm 500 pounds. On top of that he never compliments my appearance. Not even when I was 120 pounds and 25 years old and had men falling at my feet. I know he loves me but not sure he finds me attractive. Maybe he just fell in love with my amazing personality. Why doesn't that feel like enough? I'm feeling a lot of pain right now and not sure how to get past it.

Haven't really been sticking to NoS these last couple of days but not overdoing it either. Been getting up early a few times a week and riding my bike with DH. That always feels great. I've also been doing the Nike app iron recommended. Well okay I did it twice but it's good. Definitely left me sore the next day and my daughter even joined me on one of those days so I'll likely continue with it.

Break: bagel w/ cream cheese; 2 veggie sausages
lunch: baked potato w/ cheese and s. cream, small bowl of quinoa salad
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I didn't look at the right page on the site to get much out of it. I was on the one where she kept saying she was going to say what the secret was about binging--and the lead-up hype kept going on and on. It reminded me of a snake-oil type of site. I just find that annoying! (and then her "reason" didn't really resonate with me, but I was having trouble "trusting" the site at that point because of how it read...)
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lpearlmom wrote:
On top of that he never compliments my appearance. Not even when I was 120 pounds and 25 years old and had men falling at my feet. I know he loves me but not sure he finds me attractive. Maybe he just fell in love with my amazing personality. Why doesn't that feel like enough? I'm feeling a lot of pain right now and not sure how to get past it.


(((Hugs))) I think it's normal to want to be told we're pretty. I also think some guys just don't think about saying/communicating in certain ways and may need instruction! That he has never made comments leads me to think it hasn't occurred to him to say he finds you beautiful out loud, rather than that he doesn't think you're attractive. (Now I have Billy Joel's Tell her About it running through my head, LOL!)
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Hmm, that's tough. Our biology conditions us to want to feel desired, partly for procreation and for acceptance into the group, which means survival.


I wonder if there's anything he'd really like to hear from you, something he'd like to be approved of for.


How important is it for you to avoid the GERD symptoms? What could you give up? Were the symptoms worse when you were heavier? Do you carry the weight around your waist? I've read it's abdominal fat that is correlated with the problem. Not that you can target that but it sounds like it's not a vanity issue anymore.

Then again, I put up with a lot of discomfort to overeat for a long time and still do sometimes now. Oy vey.
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Thanks Merry & Oolala. We talked a long time last night and we're okay now. It sounds like he's just really worried about my health because of the issues he sees with obese people in his practice.

Ugh, I'm so sad. To lose 40 lbs and it's still not enough. I guess the reality is I need to lose more weight. But we all know that's easier said then done and then I have to figure out how to maintain it. My whole life I've been struggling with this. It never ends.

Oolala: I do carry my weight in the middle. I'm an apple girl all the way. It would be worth it. I'm tired of all the medication I have to take, having to sleep on a wedge pillow, carrying tums everywhere I go and it would wonderful to enjoy a cup of coffee again. I just don't really know if I can lose any more weight no matter how motivated I am.

I will stick to NoS but try smaller portions, lighter food, less beverages, more exercises I guess. Ugh.
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I'm glad you and your DH were able to talk about it. It is frustrating if you focus on it, and when you're having GERD it's hard not to focus. You have kept off a big chunk of weight which few people accomplish, so that's fabulous right there. I don't know if it's possible or helpful to shift focus but *I* see you as responsible and attentive to your health habits.
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Tough lessons. The websites I looked at say that dropping 10% makes a big difference. You dropped a LOT more than that! But to some degree, health problems are pernicious.

So, does he know you'd like to be admired for your appearance sometimes?
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Hello apple from your apple friend. I've been working out in front of mirrors and man am I hot-looking from the back. Turn to the side and -- oolala!!!! Haha not the real oolala of course.
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Thanks Larkspur. I guess trying to lose weight for health reasons is better than focusing on my appearance.

Oolala: So I didn't have reflux before I lost the weight. It started after I got my gallbladder out. Btw, apparently losing a chunk of weight, being a woman and being over 40s all increase your chances of your gallbladder out. I'm not really sure why I have reflux. I had an endoscopy and all looked fine. Other reasons ruled out too so losing weight is the next thing I'm suppose to try. If it doesn't work, we can rule it out. But should be tried before anything as drastic as surgery.

My DH knows how I feel. This has been an issue for many, many years. My therapists says we have just different love languages. I just try to remember his many other good qualities--he helps me with the kids and around the house, he never forgets bdays, valentines day etc, we have a lot of fun together, he's loyal, and he's always there for me when I'm feeling down. He's a good husband. Just stubborn as all out.

Auto: that side view is just so lovely right?

So today, I just tried to keep things a bit lighter. *shrug*

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-he helps me with the kids and around the house, he never forgets bdays, valentines day etc, we have a lot of fun together, he's loyal, and he's always there for me when I'm feeling down.


I'm not sure he can get much more clear than what he's been. It's too bad that you have been having trouble "hearing" it as that can make for some seriously icky feelings.

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Ugh, I'm so sad. To lose 40 lbs and it's still not enough.

It is hard when we work hard, do what we have to do and yet somehow still come up lacking. I don't really have any words of wisdom other than empathy. I sometimes feel the same way . . . lost some weight, changed eating habits, exercise habits, heck, even household management habits and yet there's always another problem to solve or hurdle to cross. There are definitely days that I think it's all just unfair. Honestly, I've never come up with a great way to deal with those days other than to remind myself that had I not made those changes things probably would be much worse and (perhaps more importantly) that those days pass and better ones roll around.

I hope you find your energy soon. I'll be rooting for you.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks ginger! It would also be great if dh could muster up a compliment now and then but marriage is all about compromise right ? Honestly it only comes up a couple times a year.

Yeah it's hard coming to terms with coming up short. I think I've been in denial about my true size though. I'm really good at that. Really most of my life I was at most 5-10 lbs over my desired weight but never overweight. It's only been these last 10 years or so that I've gotten to the obese range. It seems unfathomable I could have actually been some 80 lbs overweight. Crazy how we can deceive ourselves.

Anyway, my mom took me to Sedona for the weekend while dh watched the kids and we had a really nice time. My mom doesn't eat a lot so it wasn't hard keeping things reasonable.

Break: egg white spinach omelet , chai
Lunch: veg patty on sandwich thin, couple bites of turkey sandwich
Dinner: few bites of beef jerky, small piece of veg lasagna, glass wine
Dessert: small piece of fudge, lollipop

PS Sorry about the un-NoS like quotation. Just trying to get motivated!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linda, much sympathy from me! My husband doesn't seem to notice my appearance, in fact when I lost weight on No S he only commented because his female family members mentioned it to him! But the upside is that when I was late in my second pregnancy, and felt huge and awful and my legs were like sausages and had varicose veins all over them, he didn't notice that either. Perhaps sometimes they just have an image of us (as an attractive person they love) and then they don't need to notice the current specifics?

The only thing I have found is that if I compliment him on his appearance, he will be prompted to return the favor. So, if we're heading out for the night and I say "you look great, I really like that blue jacket on you", he'll then say "Thanks, you look really nice too". I know that sounds like I'm fishing for compliments, but I think he really just doesn't think of it until he's reminded.

I'm glad you had a nice weekend with your mom, sounds like a lovely break.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forgot to say, yay that you are using the NTC app. I've been enjoying it so far, and it is so varied it really looks like something for everyone. Even if I can only squeeze in 7 minutes, there seems to be something worthwhile.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for sharing iron. Sounds exactly like my DH. 😊 I guess some men are just like that. He's really not focused on appearances in general so hey I guess it makes sense. I think it's just hard when I'm feeling insecure but maybe I shouldn't rely on other ppl to make myself feel better.

Today was good. Had some hunger but worked through it.

Break: smoothie, "coffee"
Lunch : veg patty on sandwich thin, baked chips, cup of miso soup, nf chai
Dinner: steak, cauliflower mash, salad, glass wine

Exercise: 35 min bike ride; 25 min walk w/ dogs
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't sleep well last night because of my reflux. It was probably from too much caffeine (chai) with a glass of wine on top of it. Of course I had another chai today. I'm not good at deprivation. I did skip the wine. Felt very hungry today. Not feeling very confident in my ability to lose any more weight but all I can do is keep trying.

Break: cantaloupe w/ no plain yogurt "coffee
Lunch: taco salad no shell, sf chai
Dinner: skinnytaste Santa Fe salad, apple

Exercise: 7 min Nike app.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear you had a bad night. I now and again have a bad night with heartburn, it really is so painful, on top of the lost sleep!

Good on you for keeping up with the NTC, even though you were poorly slept. It's much harder to get motivated for exercise when you are tired.

Keep putting one foot in front of the other! Confidence might come and go, but you can keep heading in the right direction.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks iron! I slept well last night luckily & dh & I woke up early to ride bikes. I was in a serious funk though today bordering on depression so gave myself the day off from house stuff & NoS. I basically watched movies, cried a bit & did some journaling. I snacked a bit but kept everything light & healthy. I think the pressure to lose weight is getting to me. My gf suggested I take weight loss drugs. Do I really seem that hopeless?

I think I just need to change my mindset. It's not about deprivation. It's about ultimately feeling better right ?

Break: smoothie
Lunch: veg patty, kimchi, fruit, baked chips
Snack: a couple rice cakes w nf cottage cheese
Dinner: bowl of vegan pumpkin chili w avocado & bean chips, glass wine
Dessert: several vegan power balls.

Exercise: biked 5-6 miles (fast)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry you had a tough day, and really glad you still got your riding in. Sounds like giving yourself a day off was a good move.

Absolutely helps to shift the focus away from deprivation, because if I focus on feelings of missing out I usually am only one step away from justifying a blow out (YOLO!). Ultimately you are trying to feel better all the time, including pain free sleep. And that's the opposite of deprivation.

Hope tomorrow is better!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks iron! Seems my dark mood as lifted. *phew*. At least I'm learning what I need to do to help me out of those moments. DH admitted he's gained a bit of weight back too so maybe some of this is him projecting ?

Anyway, the good news is that he's motivated to get back into biking with me. I really enjoy when we work out together. It'll work out. All I can do, is try my best. The thing about trying to lose weight is you can put 100% into it, do everything right and still come up short. Sometimes you just can't fight biology. That's why focusing on getting in shape (whatever that means) is usually a better idea. But if I'm honest I want to lose weight too. For my health issues and just because I feel like it holds me back sometimes. *shrug*

Break: smoothie
Lunch: vegan burger patty, rice cake w/ no cottage cheese, sf chai
Dinner: skinytaste taco salad, glass wine

Exercise: 25 min walk w 🐶, 15 min Nike app
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh dear, my body is so messed up. I got my period today and its two weeks early. That explains the moods. I'm wondering if this is more signs of peri menopause?

A bit of a red day but not too bad. I was re-reading Skinny girl which is a little weird but what struck me was how she'll order what she really wants but then just eat half of it. I'm sure that seems really obvious to most ppl but it just kind of hit me that oh yeah I don't have to eat everything just cuz it's on my plate. So at lunch today I left some of my food on my plate and it was pretty freeing. Weird, I know.

I'm starting to change my attitude about this whole thing. You know how some ppl have these really difficult things in their lives but instead of letting it defeat them, they rise above it and their weakness becomes their strength? Maybe I can do that with my weight issues somehow.

Actually I took a yoga class today and at first was nervous about looking in the big ol mirror but I actually thought I looked pretty good. That was a bit of a relief. It's not the end of the world being a few pounds overweight okay more like 20-30 lbs but still. I'm so tired... had trouble sleeping then woke up at 5:30 am to go bike riding.

Break: smoothie, banana
Lunch: 1 chicken kabob, roasted veggies, fruit, sf chai
Dinner: several pieces of sushi, small salad, glass wine
Red: I made cookies w: my daughter and may have sampled the batter and/ or a bite of a cookie, I also had part of a granola bar after dinner

Exercise: 🚴 7 miles hard, walked 50 mins, 1 hr yoga class
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, a big exercise day, go you! I love yoga, would love to back to classes one day.

Really glad you're feeling better, have a lovely weekend!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I didn't really plan it that way but it was good. Of course I made up for it today by being extra lazy.

I ate more than an N day but not too crazy.

Break: toast w/ cashew butter
Snack: granola bar
Lunch: turkey sandwich
Snack: skinny micro popcorn 🍿 ; 2 cookies w/ milk
Dinner: 3 street tacos
Dessert: 2 lollipops; granola bar

No weight loss...stubborn body. 😱
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well despite my best intentions, I went a little overboard. Still not as bad as a lot of my past S days.

Break: smoothie, two eggs, cheese bread
Lunch: 1/2 avocado, couple handfuls sweet potato crackers, sm. bag baked cheetos, sf chai
dinner: curry, chicken salad, a few pizza pieces cauliflower pizza, spagetthi squash
Dessert: 2 lolipops

exercise: biked 7 miles (40 mins)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crappy day! Went to the dentist and found out I need a bunch of work done. Of course, my insurance has run out so I have to pay out of pocket. The dentist said it's from the acid reflux so yeah I really need to get this under control!

Then I got rear ended. Everyone is fine but now I get to deal with insurances, repair shops and car rentals. Ugh!

Okay, whine fest over. Things will get better.

Break: oatmeal w/ fruit
Lunch: sf iced blended, fruit
Dinner: squash, vegan patty on sandwich thin, grapes
Dessert: tea, lollipop

Red day but I feel like I'm having to give up so much--caffeine, wine etc..
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh no! Glad everyone is ok, but what a downer.

Hope you are feeling better!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry about the crappy day. Thank God nobody's hurt.

I was thinking of you as I read this one:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/09/170907143005.htm

I feel like your diet is already plant based, so that may not help much. I read a book on reflux because of a perpetually red throat. I think I have the silent kind-- no pain. I couldn't tolerate acid blockers and I'm not sure about long term use of those. In the book I read the GI dr was really into avoiding acid food and drink, period. I thought the suggestion of alkalinized water was interesting.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad no one was hurt in the bump. (I did it TO someone last spring. SO embarrassing.)

I was at a meeting for my Indian philosophy class and I had asked the teacher about how to face that there are so many injustices and problems in the world. He looked at me and said, "Yes, there is injustice. If you are waiting for the world to be just for you to be happy..." and kind of shook his head. It's occurring to me that can be true of absolutely any condition. It doesn't mean we have to be singing and dancing when there are problems, but that we keep touch with what he calls a backdrop of peace. I'm continually learning to access it, though it's lost to me a lot of the time at work. (He pretty much lives there. ) Don't want to bogart your thread so might add on mine.

Out of curiosity, do you ever do any bodyweight or weightlifting exercises? I've been doing some on my minimum 4-minute (look out, World!) N day workouts. No Popeye muscles yet but I do feel stronger.

Thinking you look pretty good is progress! It's mostly an inside job, only tangentially related to your body. I like my body better now than 30 years ago when I had a lot more muscle and no sagging skin. But I was never thin, so I don't have that to whip myself with. But I think it's related to accepting that I'm doing all I'm willing to as of right now, so any "hits" of disappointment in my reflection just have to be ridden out.

I think mirrors are up there with gun powder and the single combustion engine as scourges of "progress." Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks iron! Doing much better today!

Thanks Larks. That is interesting. I was actually a vegan when I first started having symptoms so I don't know if that would help me or not. I do think giving up caffeine, reducing my alcohol intake and losing weight will help. I hope, I hope, I hope! It scares me being on these meds so long. Plus all the other bad stuff that comes along with it.

As far as the alkaline water goes, I do feel like it helps me but it may be psychological. DH insists that there's no scientific way it could work. (I still drink it, just in case.)

Oolala, you're right. We can't wait around for everything to be perfect in order to be happy. DH is better at taking everything in stride than me but I'm learning. I realize there's so many stressful situations that I've been through. At the time it seemed like the end of the world but I always come out the other side just fine.

I've done weightlifting on an off in the past. Not right now though. It does really help build a positive body image though, huh?

Anyway, the insurance company called and the woman's insurance accepted liability. Woot! She said it almost never happens this easily or quickly so I'm grateful for that at least. The woman that hit me was super nice and apologetic so I guess she just fessed up. I guess theres still good ppl in the world. Yay!

Break: smoothie, banana
lunch: vegan patty, apple, grapes, rice cake
Dinner: grilled swordfish, roasted brussel sprouts, bite of gnocchi ,
Red: granola bar (after dinner oops)

Exercise: rode 9 miles/1 hr. We did part of it in the dirt so it took a lot longer. Was always more challenging but fun!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great news on the insurance!

When I struggle with heartburn I can almost always trace it to too many coffees during the day, or to alcohol. My dad also found as he aged he couldn't digest coffee. 😢At least tea seems to be ok.

For some reason I cannot tolerate most beers anymore - used to be fine, now can barely make it to the end of one glass before I have the beginnings of heartburn pain. I got used to not drinking while pregnant and nursing, so I'm not that disappointed to cut down.

If this keeps going I will have no vices left!! 😋
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, Ironchef, I bet we could find you something...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know, I can't have coffee and gave it up awhile ago but was still having chai teas a few times a week. I think I need to give that up too. I can't drink beer either and nothing with fizz period. I can tolerate some wine/hard liquor but need to give up my nightly glass of wine w/ dinner.

It is possible I can add some of this back in if I lose enough weight. Been too nervous to weigh myself. It's just been so discouraging. I'm going to go off of my jeans for now.
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