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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yay! finally a new page without so much scrolling!
May 29 - June 2:
Monday: S Day (national holiday) -- guess I started back with two S days in a row, lol
Tuesday: green
Wednesday: GREEN! made a delicious dinner: black peppered steak with cauliflower gratin and green beans. A nice sauce on the steak and sour cream and chives on the gratin.
Thursday: GREEN
Friday: aimin' for green

Weight: 143.4
Waist: 34.25
note: my thigh was 22.5 at its fattest point; my 8 year old's waist is not quite 21 inches.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scrolling ? Why do you need to scroll to post on your thread?

Btw, good to see you back here!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

automatedeating wrote:
Yay! finally a new page without so much scrolling!


If your discussion has any new posts on it, just click on the little yellow page icon (the one the arrow points to)--it will take you right to the new post, no scrolling needed!

congrats on hitting a new page Smile
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28.5 lbs. down, 34.5 to go. Slow and steady wins the race.

"...slim cultures...value not overeating. They don't eat more of a food just because it's good. They enjoy the food more."--Oolala
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

June 5th:
Monday: GREEN but the day isn't over and I'm having some cravings .....
Tuesday:
Wednesday:
Thursday:
Friday:
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope you stayed strong and beat those cravings... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The good news is after long enough, habit will take over the limiting of the food. It may take adjusting over a period of time to see how much and what on the plate will get you where you want, but you'll probably work out your own Intelligent Dietary Defaults to make it easier. I remember Barry Sears saying long ago that most people end up eating the same 20 foods over and over. (This is what puts the lie to people saying they get bored with a diet. Really? They weren't bored with the repeating menu of convenience/manufactured food they ate before?) If you can slowly reduce some of them and replace the least satisfying/ lowest quality ones, you'll end up with a better routine. And know that slim cultures don't eat a huge variety for every meal. There's usually only one main meal a day where they do it up.

It does sound like these delivered meal ingredients are a nice bridge for people who haven't cooked much or are really strapped for time. I seem to luck out finding good sauces that I use on my very simply-prepared meal basics. Just like someone can eat chicken six ways to Sunday (is that the expression?), I'ver learned that I can enjoy my beans, a changing grain, veggies and a different sauce pretty routinely. (I rotate in some animal sources, too, but less lately for reasons I won't go into. They're on my thread.) I'm suspicious of myself when I think it has to be much better ALL the time. Bernard Jensen used to say to wait to eat until you had "the keenest desire for the plainest food." That may be a little too ideal, but it helps keep things in perspective.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

June 5th:
Monday: GREEN but the day isn't over and I'm having some cravings .....
update -- made it!!!!
Tuesday: GREEN so far, not so many cravings tonight, but fought down a mild sense of panic while I was eating that I would not be full after eating.
Wednesday:
Thursday:
Friday:

Oolala! Thank you for your kind, thorough, and helpful post! What a treat! Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And were you right about not being full?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol I am totally full!
I need to remind myself of this occurrence.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. When I first started, I would check in periodically over the course of an evening and keep seeing that I was actually full, even if I had a yen to eat. And if I had an inkling that I wasn't getting enough food on the plate, I'd recall how many times I had doubted and been wrong. It still happens some times. I think of it as cave woman thoughts! Deep down, but mistaken.
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SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

June 5th:
Monday: GREEN but the day isn't over and I'm having some cravings .....
update -- made it!!!!
Tuesday: GREEN so far, not so many cravings tonight, but fought down a mild sense of panic while I was eating that I would not be full after eating.
Wednesday: GREEN
Thursday: GREEN
Friday:

Weight: 143.6
Waist: 34.25 inches
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

June 5th:
Monday: GREEN but the day isn't over and I'm having some cravings .....
update -- made it!!!!
Tuesday: GREEN so far, not so many cravings tonight, but fought down a mild sense of panic while I was eating that I would not be full after eating.
Wednesday: GREEN
Thursday: GREEN
Friday: GREEN

Weight: 143.6
Waist: 34.25 inches
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

June 12th
Mon:GREEN
Tues:GREEN
Wed: GREEN
Thur:
Fri:

Weight:
Waist:

couple of things:
1 -- nice S weekend (last weekend)
Plan shaping in my head: Vanilla S for 6 months and hopefully 6 pounds
After that, I anticipate a plateau that I have reached several times where Vanilla NoS cannot take me beyond. At that point, I think I'll bring in the smaller plates/smaller portions strategy. Keep everything else the same. That's my tentative plan at this point.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't it interesting to not be thinking about how you could add food back later? So often on diets, people are encouraged to limit their food a lot to lose and then increase it a little (because who can keep up the enforced limitation?) But with No S, it leads to realizing you don't need to add anything; in fact, you can subtract.
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Jan/12-26.8
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

June 12th
Mon:GREEN
Tues:GREEN
Wed: GREEN
Thur: GREEN
Fri:

Weight: 145.1
Waist: 34.5

How disappointing. I've been green all week. Sigh.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What was disappointing? Did you not make it today?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ugh.
I gained weight and inches....
But I had an entirely green week.
I will try not to worry about it. I know i should concentrate on building habit.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't followed too closely. Has your habit been fairly strong for several weeks?

BTW, I was browsing a bit in your previous posts and wanted to tell you that I'm pretty sure my thighs were 26+" before I started. I don't know what they are now, but I doubt they are under 22. Thankfully, thigh size has little correlation to any health problems.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL, thanks oolala, I'll try not to worry too much about my thigh size, hehe.
I am only on my 3rd full week of NoS after many months away, so right now I know I just need to focus on habit.

June 18th
Monday: GREEN
Tuesday:
Wednesday:
Thursday:
Friday:
Weight --
Waist --

I'm heading to a conference tomorrow morning. I'll be flying all day tomorrow and Sunday. Travel days are always tough.
But the conference should have good meals! Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

June 18th
Monday: GREEN
Tuesday: GREEN
Wednesday: GREEN
Thursday: GREEN
Friday: GREEN

June 25th
Monday: GREEN
Tuesday: GREEN
Wednesday: GREEN
Thursday: GREEN
Friday: GREEN
Weight: 145
Waist: 34.5 inches

Wow. No changes at all, no weight loss, no inches loss, and ALL green days.
I've been drinking too much wine, that might explain it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

July 2nd
Monday:
Tuesday:
Wednesday:
Thursday:
Friday:
Weight:
Waist:
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to divert you from just establishing habit, and I know around here people like to encourage NOT worrying about too many details, but there are some truths that possibly shouldn't be ignored, especially for shorter women whose margins are usually smaller. Every alcoholic drink is about the about the same as another 1 1/2 servings of starch, 2-3 oz. of meat (which might be another full serving for many) or another tablespoon and a half of butter on the plate. Most sources that recommend wine/alcohol drinking suggest one serving a day for women, but that probably won't have the satiety effect that eating the same amount of food would, so it can be misleading. However, it also adds pleasure and likely a nice sense of relaxation.

As you said, you haven't been back long. July 4 might not help, depending on how involved your traditional celebrations are. But a plan has to be able to accommodate some celebrations!
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Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but harder to maintain)
Dec/17 23.8

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the comment, oolala. I really appreciate the input, and the encouragement for me to find a plan that helps my body get to a healthy weight.
I have pondered my food/alcohol intake and two things stand out:

1) in the past on NoS, I have had the best success (and been quite content/satieted) when skipping breakfast. I just have several cups of milky coffee and I'm delighted each morning. Haha Since starting back on NoS, I've been having granola each morning with my usual whole milk. Lots of calories, and not necessary for my needs physically or psychologically. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't ever getting too hungry so I could stay GREEN. So.....I will reinstitute my breakfast skipping (please note -- I am probably still getting 100 calories or so from the milk in my coffee).

2) I need to cut back on my drinking (for lots of reasons, right?). That tends to be tougher. Over the years I have really built a bad habit of relying on alcohol to help me deal with my intense schedule and responsibilities. Maybe that's a bit heavy for NoS forum chat, but it is what it is.

Week starting July 2nd
Monday: GREEN
Tuesday: 4th of July, S afternoon
Wednesday:
Thursday:
Friday:
Weight:
Waist:
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you can call milky coffee breakfast. Only you can know if several of them are less intake than granola and milk, though granola is pretty dense so packs a lot into small spaces...

We've just about all used something that didn't really support us as functionally as something else could.

I'm a firm believer in the value of being able to pinpoint what benefit we think we get from a bx, what benefits we'd like even more, and what the disadvantages are as a jump off point for changing the behavior. I think when people get it really clear, that's when turnarounds happen. That's when habit theory's concept of bright lines helps the process.

Judith Beck says one of the most misleading thoughts we have are when we believe that we're doomed to repeat certain coping strategies we've come to depend on. No matter how many times we've used that loop, a different behavior is possible. It might not be as exciting or intense, but avoiding the negatives of the offending bx is often enough to balance things out, IF we pay attention to them. And it takes practice.

Have a good 4th!
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Age 64
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but harder to maintain)
Dec/17 23.8

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Week starting July 2nd
Week 5 or 6? I'll have to check
Update: Week 6 of good compliance.
Monday: GREEN
Tuesday: 4th of July, S afternoon
Wednesday: small fail (few steak fries off kid's plate)
Thursday: GREEN
Friday: GREEN
Weight: 145
Waist: didn't bother; it's too discouraging!

OK, so here's where I'm at --
skipping a formal breakfast didn't help, but perhaps one week wasn't enough (and July 4th was an S afternoon)

So my plan for the next 4 weeks is:
1) milky coffee for breakfast
2) NoW (No wine except on Weekends and Wednesdays)
3) walking or biking daily

So I'll set it up like this:
Week 7, but start of 4 weeks of serious business plan with the intent to get the damn scale to move down at least one pound by the end of the 4 weeks.
Week 1 of serious business plan
July 10th,11th,12th,13th,14th
Monday: Eating? GREEN Walking? GREEN -- went on a nice hike NoDrinking? RED; had a glass of red wine
Tuesday: Eating? Walking? NoDrinking?
Wednesday: Eating? Walking? Glass Ceiling?
Thursday: Eating? Walking? NoDrinking?
Friday: Eating? Walking?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the support re: the cooking class. It went fine enough. Congrats on the compliance rate! Nothing to do but keep trying adjustments.
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SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but harder to maintain)
Dec/17 23.8

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saturday, July 22nd

I am feeling like a whale. I feel sad, fat, and like I can't succeed. I feel unaccomplished compared to some of the friends I have hung out with lately.I guess I feel like I am kind of trashy -- from domestic care issues to how cultured (not) that I am, my lack of style. Oh, God. I am a mess right now.
I feel like my family is crazy. And I'm one of them so I'm crazy too. I feel like I can't change my habits. I feel like a fat, lazy failure.

Sigh. That's a lot of ugly feelings. I'm sorry to barf them out here. I actually hope no one reads this entry because I know how ridiculous I sound.

I weighed myself this morning after returning from visiting my family. I had maintained nearly perfect compliance! I didn't feel thin, but I was proud of my compliance.
And... yup -- I gained 2 pounds. I'm at 147.5 pounds this morning. 135 is the top of my healthy BMI.

Logically, the weight gain came from meals that were too dense, lack of activity, and probably having a couple of S Days in there (other than the weekend).

I also have a minor joint pain in my hip/thigh that makes hiking uphill uncomfortable. I think, although not serious, it is a factor in keeping me from exercising as much as I'd like to.

OK, so here I am. It's an S Day (Saturday) but so far I'm just keeping it normal. I can't go on like this, getting bigger and bigger, and more and more physically limited on my hikes.

As if all this junk thought filling my head isn't icky enough, I am also reeling a bit from discovering on my vacation that a) one of my sisters is an alcoholic (I have suspected for some time) -- my family makes excellent high-functioning alcoholics. It's one of our giftings (oh, please tell me you sense the dripping sarcasm); and b) my oldest niece is addicted to meth/heroine. I think my other sister is going to end up having to raise her granddaughter.....I sort of see the writing on the wall with that situation.

A few years ago when I first joined NoS, I feel like I was a more confident woman. Now, I feel beat up and incompetent. What has happened to me? My goodness, this post is ridiculous. I am a goober.

A goober that wants to stick to Vanilla NoS but is finding (like oolala has reminded her) that Vanilla NoS without considering what's on the plate doesn't work for me. I'm going to take a nap. Maybe I'll feel better when I get up. Maybe I'll clean my house or weed or go on a walk.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm so sorry you're feeling so awful. It sounds like there are a lot of sad family revelations going on. And you sound frustrated about your weight. But you probably know your worth is not your weight, right? Hope you are able to get through this valley quickly and just drive on.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ugh I feel your pain! My weight is up for no apparent reason too and it's hard to stay positive.

I think we all have these times when we fall into a funk and everything appears hopeless. Frankly I think we're all a mess. Some of us are just better at hiding it than others but you're not a failure. You're a good person, a great mom and you have a good job.

Hang in there. Life is so dang hard sometimes but this too shall pass.

*hugs* linda

PS

I'm so sorry about your sister.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Linda and Larkspur. I definitely showed my uglies today.
I was just reading over on Imogen's thread -- I hadn't even realized she'd had a baby, that is so cool.
Anyway, then I somehow wandered onto a thread where oolala recently pointed out a problem that IS EXACTLY MY PROBLEM. She said something about how if we thinking facing down our desire for pleasure is unfair/not a fair trade-off, that we just end up sabotaging ourselves. Ultimately it WOULD be a fair (more than fair) trade-off, but it's a realization that we have to let sink into our bones. I'm paraphrasing the eloquent oolala -- but hopefully I got this gist correct.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I'm flattered and it sounds about right, though I don't usually talk about sabotage, because it sounds so mean. I don't think we're being mean in overeating. It's just hard to justify the sacrifice if we dont' get something we want more. If weight loss is the only thing we want, it makes it harder.

So, you're about 5'2"? Hmm, that is challenging. Did you see my thread on "intake?" It's likely your need for calories is pretty low. If you had been raised in a slimmer culture, you would probably never have gotten used to eating much more than it would take to maintain a lower weight. But here we are.

I could be wrong, but I suspect you'd feel a lot better not getting full as often but it is isn't easy to make that happen. The habit will make desire pop up before you want it to. If you decide it's worth it to press on, have something great to eat in your plan for the next meal and look forward to waiting for it!

I hope you feel better now. I often feel funny when people post comforting things because the worst is usually over. But I"m not complaining! I'm grateful people care.

Just keep going.
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Jan/12-26.8
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey auto, just catching up after my own off the rails / somewhat depressing little episode. So sorry you are going through a rough time, and lots of tough family stuff too. Something in the water the past few days for sure.

I was thinking of you the other day, because I want to start reading my oldest (who is 5 now) some longer "chapter" books, and I remembered being inspired by your idea of daily reading. I thought you might be able to recommend some good titles to get started on?

Hope this week is on the way up!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phew. I'm back. Thank you to everybody for the encouragement.
I am feeling a little better -- I think I am finally accepting that my small stature means I can be satisfied with smaller portions. Or at least, I am accepting it today (and usually I never want to accept that!).

I have also made an appointment to see a marriage counselor (alone, lol) tonight. My goals are to work with her to develop strategies to get my husband to engage in the counseling too.

He's a gentle man, a kind man, but he is emotionally unavailable (maybe that's a cliche, but it is oh so true). I think his family's motto was "Do not Feel" -- there was no strong emotion that was OK to express.

So I've been writing a lot today; I have 3 pages of writing for the counselor. Ha! I will get my money's worth from her, I guess! Smile

Ok, so my game plan this week is:
no breakfast
small portioned lunch and dinner -- smaller plates
no wine with dinner on Mon/Tues/Thur

Monday - GREEN
Tuesday -
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tuesday -- GREEN
Wednesday -- GREEN
Thursday --
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Aug 24th: 143.2, waist 35 inches
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good for you for being proactive! I remember you taking about counseling helping you in the past & it actually helped me get up the courage to go. It's been a transformative experience for me. I hope you find it helpful once again

I switched to smaller plates awhile ago. I think it's helped to get my portions smaller. Have you tried that yet?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good news! The scale MOVED! And in the right direction.
142.1 today

So, my strategy will remain for next week:
milky coffee for breakfast
small plate for lunch (like Linda is doing)
small plate for dinner

No alcohol except on weekends and wednesdays

I think one week at a time is ambitious enough

Linda -- I am so glad therapy has proved useful for you. I really think we all can benefit. I think it's trifold benefit over sharing with a friend or loved one:
1) we are less concerned about appearance/impression/reputation/gossip
2) we are paying them, so we don't feel guilty about using the time to focus on our hearts (rather than the normal back-and-forth between friends)
3) the advice from a trained professional is easier to truly listen to without becoming defensive; then we can move forward with positive change.

So, I'm excited for our couples meeting on Tuesday, but I have to reign in my expectations. It hit me with quite a jolt that I have been doing this "internal" work for 18 years now!!!!!!! That puts me very far ahead of my husband on this road. Bummer. I would suggest to those more newly married not to try and just live with emotional distance from a spouse (if you also experience that) but to see if you get your spouse to enter couples therapy -- and keep at it (mine quit back when we were first married). I'm not sure how this imbalance will play out in therapy. Can we all say together, though: DON'T TALK TOO MUCH, AUTO.
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Last topic: S days. Here I am, Sat. morning and I just ate a scone for breakfast (400 calories, wow). I'm of course also having my coffee. What to do.... just do like the old days when I never worried about anything on S Days? Or embrace this new desire to control S Days? OK, writing it down just emphasized that I need to NOT WORRY! Smile I'm in this for the long haul. I had the same thought when I considered getting rid of wine on Wednesday night, too, but then thought -- easy, there Tiger, let's not overdo it and burn out.

Onward!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait, is your husband going to counseling? You said you were excited about going today. (or next Tuesday?) I thought you said you'd be looking for strategies to get him to go. I'd be curious to know what the therapist said about that.

Do you think he is happy in the marriage as is?
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Oolala, first I went, then I somehow talked my husband into going the very next day. Then somehow he and the therapist agreed that the three of us would meet -- which we did, yesterday.

It was pretty cool. Way more productive than I expected.
We have another appt in a week. I've already had to face the reality that I sometimes try to "argue" people out of their emotions. Not good.

This week -- green Mon/Tues. but, sigh, I just failed today. I gave in to the beauty of a cinnamon roll from my favorite bakery. Ergh. Mark it and move on. And what was the phrase -- climber's arrest or something like that? I don't want to just let the day get away from me.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So glad your husband is going with you. We've never gone to marriage counseling but I've threatened several times. That's usually enough to get him to help resolve whatever issue we're having. Your husband is being very brave!


Also, great to see the scale is finally catching up with you.


Happy Friday!!

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Returned last night from 1 week road trip. Followed my plan except for:
1) a S'More fail the first night;
2) alcohol fails on two nights (I'm trying to avoid alcohol MTTh nights completely)
3) some dense restaurant plates

Other than that, I resisted each and every day the desire to snack, have breakfasts, and desserts. I felt really good (again) about my compliance, so I am sad that the scale this morning: 146.1
Ugh

I am home for a few days, then off on my final trip of the summer -- to St. Louis and Springfield with the boys. We'll be gone for one week.

1) easy to avoid alcohol when it's just me and the boys, so that one should work well. And the friend I'm visiting rarely/never drinks so no temptation there.
2) getting milky coffee on this last trip worked well, so I'll continue that.
3) which means -- it's those dang portion sizes/dense foods. How about this -- no burgers/fries. If a salad is an option, I will order that.... is that a decent plan? I travel on Sundays, so that is nice that those are already S days.

Please scale please scale go down. Hmmm, has the scale become my idol? I shouldn't think that is funny, but I am imagining myself bowing down to a giant scale with a quivering needle that moves up when I sin and down when I saint. Hehe
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

144.8 this morning.
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another counseling appointment. This one was really hard for me. We had to practice talking about a stressful event and my husband brought up a time I had embarrassed him in public. The counselor kept having to stop me because I would try to problem solve or jump over his feelings. I felt like such a failure. At the end she even had to say that she doesn't want me leaving feeling like I'm a bad wife.
Sigh. I guess this is what I wanted; but now it's hard to hear how much work I have to do.
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I remember being on a road trip with my then-boyfriend and we were having disagreements and tough feelings. I had always thought I was someone who could "communicate," but I was silent a fair amount. I wanted to either lash out or just go home on my own at times, but I sat with the discomfort. There I was in my early 40's and I thought, "Boy, I'm finally getting what they mean when they say relationships are hard work." I had never thought what that meant. It meant being really uncomfortable at times and not resorting to the worst coping strategies. He's been married to someone else for over ten years, which is a-okay with me- he would never have lasted through my career, and I wouldn't have lasted through his hidden alcohol problem, though it's basically resolved now, but we talk once in awhile. He said recently that he remembers mostly the good times on that trip.

Changing communication is REALLY hard. I salute you!
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Thank you for that encouragement, Oolala. I am reading a book called The Art of Empathy. It's a pretty interesting read from an extremely emotionally intuitive person. I can only take a chapter or so, though, before I head back to my summer fun reads. Smile

OK -- I survived my LAST travel of the summer!!! The boys and I had SO much fun together; it was delightful, it was sweet, it was.....so wonderful. Please remind me of this when I begin complaining about them during the winter!

And it feels good to be home for 2 full weeks before I roar back into work-mode.

And, it feels EXCELLENT to share with y'all that I was compliant! And I mean compliant with my recent smaller portions!

I weighed in this morning (never weigh on a Monday, right?) after my S Days and traveling and I was 144.7. I was super relieved to see that. Eating out virtually all week, and I didn't gain. So. Smaller portions. Alcohol restriction on certain days (always good to restrict the alcohol, yes?) and lots of walking.

And I did something new: last night in the airport we were eating at Chili's. My son wanted a burger; I proposed that we split a burger and fries. We did; and both of us were satisfied. On my own I might have just eaten the whole burger just to.... eat it.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The scale has moved!
143.2
News: I joined a health club. It's really nice, and has so many group classes. Those are the ones I tend to like, because they keep me more engaged than working out on my own.
My plan is: walk/bike with dog about 7-730; get boys and myself ready to leave; drive boys to school (starts at 8:30), then drive to club and do 9am class. Get to my office at 10:30. Work 10:30-4:30, then home to make dinner and drive kids to various evening activities. It will be tricky to see how much work I have to do from home to stay caught up.
School starts for kids Sept. 6th. so I have a couple weeks to sort of "practice" the morning routine. I went my first time this morning to a water aerobics class.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guess I haven't posted in a bit.
scale this morning: 143.0

Had 3 fails this week. Rolling Eyes Embarassed
*licorice on Tuesday
*gelato when out with a friend on Wednesday
*gelato that I had bought to bring home (why did I do that? And why did i eat it friday night when I could have waited a few more hours until Sat?!)

Sigh. Mark it (the whole week, I guess) and move on.

Positives:
*Have worked out every weekday for 8 weekdays.
*Have eaten moderate portions at meals
*Have not had seconds or snacks -- sweets have been my downfall this past week
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kudos on seeing what you did right!
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Great job working out! Hang in there!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks oolala and Linda!

I think "i'm hanging in there" is a good way to describe my mode right now. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good enough!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

good enough, damn straight. Smile

I had a good week. No fails, although some of my plates were too big.
5 days at the gym.

Had such a fun bike/hike combo with my dog this morning. Biked him to the trailhead, then was able to let him off leash. We biked together a ways, then I left my bike and we hiked the steeper parts to the pond he likes to play in. Nobody on these trails, so it felt safe to leave bike. Also, felt great to tire him out (in a good way -- he was so happy) before I had to leave for work.

weight: 142.2

officially back to work Monday!
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Dogs are the best and they're so much happier after a little exercise. Sounds like a great day!

Best of luck starting back to work!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

May I ask to know or be reminded what you BMI is now? What has been your lowest BMI without a great deal of effort?

Or you can say you'd rather not say, really.
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Linda -- remember when the dog gave me panic attacks!? He is still work, but I enjoy him a lot now.

Hi Oolala! Thanks for the question!

My current BMI is: 26 exactly

My lowest BMI without a great deal of effort ....hmmm it seems like it's getting higher and harder to not gain weight (I'm 40 now) but I truly think 135 pounds (BMI 24.7) is very maintainable if I am reasonably active and following NoS (with moderate portions and decent food choices). Of course, I drool over weighing 130 again -- BMI 23.8

And 115, ha! That was pre-babies.

I won't deny it -- it's hard to see many posters with BMIs of 20, 21, 22.

I had a beautiful green week. Worked out every day! Kept small portions EVERY DAY! Stepped on scale this morning WTH?! 142. AGAIN.
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automatedeating wrote:

I won't deny it -- it's hard to see many posters with BMIs of 20, 21, 22.


Well, I'll make you feel better because mine is 30! Wanting desperately to get to 29 and cross that threshold into "just" overweight, LOL! (I'd say trying desperately but, well, this month isn't going so well with 2 reds already, but I'm not giving up!! I started at almost 35, so 30 is progress!)
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Oh I'm glad you're enjoying the dog now! They just get more manageable with age too.

We must be looking at different posters. I'm not seeing those low bmis for some reason but that would stress me out too. I know you're not happy with this weight but at least know you're at a very healthy weight. A bmi of 26-27 is actually associated with the lowest mortality rate. Dare I say those lower bmis are probably not very healthy? Also it's actually more dangerous to be underweight than overweight.

So I'm not saying don't try for those last 10 pounds or anything but know health wise you're in a good spot. You're body is probably saying "nope we're good here." But I absolutely understand your frustration. I've been working my butt off all week and my scale hasn't had to decency to budge even the tiniest bit. Ugh!

Anyway enjoy your S days.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey auto, sorry your body is lagging behind - it will catch up eventually!

Really glad you're enjoying your doggy! I love our dog, but didn't enjoy puppy / adolescence. I remember crying tears of frustration at our local park a time or two - a world away from our relaxed middle aged dog today!
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Good Lord, what would your BMI have been at 115 lbs.? What, did you have your babies at age 12? Don't know how tall you are but I was 120 lbs. at age 12. I don't think I was much shorter than now. (Doctor told my mother I should lose 10 pounds. That's when I got sneakier about sweets.)

What else do we do but just keep going?
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Thanks Merry, Linda, ironchef, and oolala for putting up with my pity party. Thanks for all the good encouraging tidbits. Helps a lot.

And health is what it should all be about. Now I feel kind of embarrassed about my last post. Thanks all for your graciousness and patience.

And another completely green week -- and I gained. 143.6

However, I have a theory now (haha theory) -- I might be experiencing the "newbie work-outer" effect. Apparently it's normally difficult/controversial to lose fat and gain muscle at the same time, but if anyone can do it, it's someone that's been sedentary for a while and then starts working out. One website said 3-6 weeks before losses may show up. And my waist measurement definitely has gone down (by a whole inch, I think, although it's sometimes hard to tell if I'm sucking in or not, haha). Another effect of newbies to working out is that muscles will sometimes retain more water at first? Or something like that. So, I'll try not to despair.

So I've been working out 4-5 days a week for 4 weeks. Next weigh-in is Friday.
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Oh yup! I always gain a bit when I first start working out after taking some time off. My friend said the same thing happens to her. I think it's something w/ water like you were describing.

Hang in there!!
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When I was working as a personal trainer we used to offer clients a review (weigh, measure, skin folds, vo2 max) after 12 weeks. Any less than that and it isn't really enough time for the body to respond to the program. Humans are very adaptable, but not that fast Smile

I think the measuring and fit of clothes is very important too. Would you care if the scale read the same, but you dropped a size?
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No need to be embarrassed. It's hard to be woman in this culture and not be infected with the beauty virus. But not worthy of despair. It's not like you got caught embezzling millions. I think those people actually handle it better than a woman gaining five pounds.

Ironchef, I'd take that deal any day.
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Good morning!
142.7
waist definitely smaller, clothes fitting better, so I guess I also take ironchef's deal about smaller size but same weight.

been reading about linda and ironchef and heartburn and I think I may have to finally admit that heartburn is bothering me more than just rarely or never. It's been more common in the past couple of years -- triggers (within a few sips!) appear to be wine, fizzy kombucha, and of course overeating on something like pizza. sometimes even spaghetti -- maybe the tomato sauce. Oh, and eating a lot of pico de gallo. See....I guess it really has reared its ugly head. but I have never written about it (I think); it's like I didn't want to admit it and I CERTAINLY have not decided to change my eating, haha. So many of those things are my favorites!

Had two fails this week -- both T & Th nights I ate some licorice.
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Ugh, sorry about the heartburn. Seems to be very common. Mine is pretty much 24/7 without meds though if that makes you feel any better.

Those are common triggers--tomatoes, spicy food, alcohol, and carbonation. Try to figure out what you can live without and try removing those. For the ones that you can't live without you could take an otc med like a halfhour before you're going to indulge. Also, you might want to carry tums with you.
The acid is really bad for your body so you do want to try to get that under control if possible. Okay that's my two cents.

Hope it gets better and good for you for going by your measurements rather than the scale. I feel like I'm doing everything I can to get to a healthy weight and keep my eating moderate so what's the point of weighing myself? The weight will be what it's going to be and all I can do is what I can do. That's just today though, tomorrow I may feel differently.

Hope you have a great weekend!

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Sorry to hear you've been experiencing heartburn too! It is really miserable. I never had any until after I had my kids, and I don't know if it is changes to my body or just getting older.

The good news is that I've brought it much more under control by avoiding a few triggers (coffee, fizzy alcohol, eating a big, dense dinner close to bedtime), so you might find it doesn't take that many tweaks to get sorted.
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I can relate, with the heartburn.😞 Some of my triggers are coffee (but I'm not ready to give up coffee yet), cooked tomatoes, overly large and fatty meals, citrus (especially orange juice), and eating too close to when I exercise. I try to limit the foods I listed, but I haven't changed my diet yet.
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