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I love the No S Diet, but my doctor says I need to eat 4/5/6 meals a day because of my medical condition! The No S Diet has a little known loophole just for you. If you look closely at the site, you'll notice that nowhere does it specify the actual *number* of meals. Now most people will make a cer...

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It is a pretty small book! I'd seen the book a few days before I bought it, and when I went to purchase, it was stuck between two bigger books and I thought it was gone. I should go look to see if they've replaced it!

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The thing I remember absolutely hating from the hot lunches at school was cooked cabbage. It wasn't so much that I disliked cooked cabbage in general, this was way overcooked cooked cabbage. Lordie, I hated it so!

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The fact that we could teach others new habits and eliminate (at least most) of the need for other diet plans and programs is mind-boggling. Imagine if like our mothers or grandmothers and great-grandmothers (or fathers), we once again taught by example what and how to eat. Imagine if the knowledge ...

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It sounds like your problem with weekend S days is more between your ears than in what you actually do or eat. How do you do on the other S days -- like holidays or birthdays? Keep your desserts, but eat what you really want when and if the situation arises and not worry about it the rest of the tim...

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I'm also a nurse and while I've not worked with osteoporosis patients, I'm aware of just the opposite as well. It may well be more of an individual thing or one being more prone to certain injuries, etc. Running isn't my thing, though.

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I'm thinkin' Lilly might say that was movement with purpose.

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I haven't tried again, but my computer was having issues yesterday.

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Alcohol is treated separately from food and other beverages. The glass ceiling is 1-2 drinks daily.

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My daughter used to be a cross country runner. Running is particularly hard for women because of hip/pelvic structure. All the weird injuries that female runners are prone to get, she got. Most women runners who are competitive are built like boys -- no hips. You rarely see a curvy woman runner. Now...

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OrganicGal wrote:This is a centuries old, traditional, logical, dare I say 'normal' way to eat for all of your life!

Makes sense to me

Makes sense to me, too. More s's: simple and sustainable.

wosnes

Buying just what you will eat on S days certainly makes it easy not to be tempted on N days. I think that's a one of the reasons those French women don't get fat. They don't have a lot of room to store food. I can't remember if it was that book or another, but I recall reading about a woman who was ...

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And let's face it, if moderation were easy most of us wouldn't be here. If moderation were the norm here, we wouldn't be having these issues. The problem is that moderation isn't the norm; gluttony is not only tolerated, it's encouraged. I wonder though, Am I the only one not worrying about S days?...

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I think whether there was an after school snack depended a lot on when school let out and when dinner was.

wosnes

My advice:

1. Follow the rules -- but don't overthink it.
2. Read the book.
3. Don't weigh.

wosnes

I'm not at all interested in their diet, what I'm saying is that they got a big shot of publicity and folks are going to check it out. If Reinhard could give the complete 13-word diet plan on one of the morning shows.... I'm convinced that if we all followed these simple habits, weight (and probably...

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I'm not suggesting anyone follow this "diet" in addition to or instead of No-S. But I just saw these gals on The Today Show and I'm sure people, primarily women, are going to be checking it out. It would be great if No-S got even more publicity or if Reinhard got on one of the morning news shows. ht...

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Many people do not have the innate ability to be moderate. I know a lot of people who agree with that. But we've also lost the social controls that say that gluttony is a bad thing. If being a glutton is considered socially unacceptable, then even if you don't have the innate abilty to be moderate,...

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lindalou wrote:My scales only show I lost a 1/2 lb So could someone tell me why I can get into a smaller size of jeans? Which I am happy about.

I can think of a number of reasons. However, why wonder about the "why?" Just enjoy it! (And don't rely on the scale.)

wosnes

I would love to partake in a piece of fresh baked French bread every so often? :lol: Stop the insanity, ~Danielle Here's the great thing: if you want it, can get it and can fit it on your plate, you can have fresh baked French bread. "Stop the Insanity" -- Susan Powter had the right words, that's f...

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eizzo wrote:it takes a long time to un learn the thinking of a life time.

It's incredible the damage the diet programs have done.

wosnes

I'm an R.N. and I think a lot of physician's intolerance of people who "think" is their inability to think outside the box. I can't tell you how many times I've told a physician to "stop and think about this, " and kind of lead them step by step to a conclusion.

wosnes

Before, it was don't "snack" you will spoil your appetite. Then it was have a snack to tied you over from one meal to the next. Snacking at it's worst, is as Reinhard says, one long meal ,all day long. That reminds me of something I've heard. Years ago when people parted company they would say some...

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blueskighs wrote:
This concept is so simple and makes so much sense. Don't you think it's interesting that a man is the one to come up with such a sensible suggestion to lose weight? I mean women constantly have the weight issue pushed down our throats

Yea, and Jean Nidetch came up with Weight Watchers.

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I think I mentioned this in another post. On The Today Show last week they had a segment about snacking and showed how some pretty benign looking snacks could easily add 800 calories daily. The only one that was obviously high in calories, and therefore not something one "should" snack on was a few ...

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I think a lot of it was convenience foods and fast foods and then having more to do. One thing our moms weren't doing was driving kids here, there and yonder to all manner of activities (from pre-school on). Betty Friedan hadn't written The Feminine Mystique or our mom's hadn't read it. Women's Lib ...

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I also often cook this in the crock pot:3-4 hours on high; 6-8 hours on low. Like I said, it's my basic recipe for soup. If I see or read about another soup, I just substitute ingredients. One of my favorites -- chicken broth with Italian sausage, cannellini beans (or other white bean), and greens (...

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When my kids were young (even early grade school age) we lived in a neighborhood with lots of families with kids the same age. It was also in an area with not a lot of traffic. During spring, summer and fall, nearly every night after dinner the moms would be out walking and talking. The kids were al...

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You know, I was just thinking that as we get more members and get more active, a recipes section might not be a bad idea. I make all my soups pretty much from scratch (might use stock in a box and do use canned tomato products, canned beans and some frozen vegetables). Pam Anderson's How to Cook Wit...

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What wonderful memories! Roller skate keys - remember putting them on a string around your neck? Refrigerator boxes - played in them until they were cardboard DUST! Hopscotch - one of my favorite games! Jacks - played those al the time Now, who remembers................ Clove and Blackjack gum, pla...

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I resist exercising to exercise, too. But I do recall taking walks for recreation -- like after dinner or with your honey (or your kids to tire them out!).

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I've given up trying to completely avoid HFCS because like you said, it's everywhere. I can understand why it's in ketchup or tomato soup (not to mention jams and jellies). I sometimes add a little sugar to tomato sauces and such to cut the acidity. I also sometimes add some sugar to my salad dressi...

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How did we ever get along without all the experts to tell us what to eat? But seriously, I'd question the qualifications of anyone who suggests the blood-type diet.

I'd also say to do what makes sense to you.

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Because of my heart failure I'm supposed to weigh daily to monitor possible fluid retention and adjust dosage of diuretic if necessary. I absolutely hate(ed) it! I say "hated" because I've learned to pay attention to my body and I can tell if I'm retaining fluid without weighing. I liked what Reinha...

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Lilly wrote:I wasn't allowed to "play" on a date til I was 16. ROTFLOL

Gee, you were lucky! My dad didn't want me to play until I was older -- and married!

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DianeA2Z -- I tried looking at the web site you link to, but it wouldn't open completely. I'm having trouble with my server today. Anyway, I mean no offense. Over the last six months or so I've gotten sick to death of the idea of "eating for health" and having the scientists, nutritionists, dietitia...

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Is this another concept fabricated by the food companies, you think?, to get us used to eat, eat, eat all the time early on?. When we're eating all day long, they're making more money. If they train us early to permasnack, they're definitely making more money throughout our entire lifetime. Then as...

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I heard an interview with Michael Pollan last week. He said (hypothesized) that when the government starts paying for our healthcare, they'll get interested in how we eat. That may be when the USDA no longer controls dietary information.

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It's true! Liberating, isn't it?

wosnes

I think scientists and dietitians and nutritionists have been looking at the health/weight vs diet mess we're in and trying to decide how to fix it. More vegetables and friuts are their answer. Personally, I don't think more veggies and fruits are a bad idea. I also don't think it's that simple. A f...

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I've never used artificial sweeteners. I can't stand the taste of them. Sugar only has 16 calories per teaspoon. If you're using enough of it to be concerned, cut back rather than go to artificial sweeteners.

My two cents worth.

wosnes

There's something about the sweet taste of the sugar substitutes triggering a desire for sweets and the substitutes don't satisfy that desire.

wosnes

I agree about "movement with a purpose."

One of the best things I ever read was: "If you're dog is fat, you're not getting enough exercise." Keep those dogs trim!

wosnes

I agree about eliminating the Crystal Light. While I do vary from the meal pattern listed below, this is the norm: Breakfast: Oatmeal and/or toast, fruit or fruit smoothie Lunch: Some combination of soup, salad, sandwich and fruit. Dinner: Salad, small serving of chicken or fish (sometimes red meat)...

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If those meals are representative of what you usually eat, I think you probably need to eat more! I don't have a huge appetite anymore, but your meals wouldn't get me through the day -- or night!

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Anyone remember the milk being delivered to the back door along with the lard with the little food coloring "button" in it? I would wait for that to come so I could break the food coloring into the lard and squeeze it until it looked like butter! I remember the milk man, only the milk came to the f...

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We either walked or drove. The small town I lived in didn't have buses in my lifetime. There were no gyms. There wasn't a gym there (other than the YMCA) until the late 90s. Not only did we not have time to be into physical fitness, there wasn't much need for it!. People still walked, pushed lawn mo...

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Lilly, you and I are about the same age (I'm just a tad bit older) and while I remember Twiggy, I don't remember my friends being much influenced by her weight. In fact, I most remember her being ridiculed for being so thin. Most folks I knew thought that her size made her unattractive. She was cert...

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Sometimes on weekends (or holidays) we only have brunch and dinner; sometimes breakfast, a late lunch and no dinner; sometimes we have 3 meals. It just depends and I really don't worry about it much. What you do on N days is more important than what you do on S days. As a friend of mine says, "What ...

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ALL in all I had a great week, but am a bit anxious about today and tomorrow. The great thing about S days is that YOU CANNOT FAIL -- which is part of the reason it's so important not to eliminate them. You might overdo the first few times, but so what? That's what helps teach you how not to overdo...

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eizzo wrote:How do you count the steps you are walking?

A pedometer. A few years ago there were quite a few articles about pedometers and the benefits of walking 10,000 steps daily.

http://astore.amazon.com/nosdiet-20/det ... 67-8139361

wosnes

This is really interesting. You've been kind enough to explain the norms. Could you explain how people reacted when those norms weren't followed? What were the attitudes to someone who didn't eat the traditional way? Imagine that you'd seen - an adult walking the streets, eating a snack - someone e...

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Nfalcone, did you lose weight walking that much? I can't speak for Nfalcone, but when I was walking 12,000-15,000 steps daily, I maintained. But, not only was it was less than I'd walked in the past, it was was my "normal", so to lose weight, I would have to increase my activity. For someone who do...

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I've done it both ways. Whatever works and seems right for you.

wosnes

Fruit is okay to eat with your meals on N days and S days. Eating fruit between meals is considered snacking.

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I always found it harder not to snack at work. There was all manner of snack food there -- and I don't keep it at home.

wosnes

I think that for my S days this weekend, I will treat them as N days this first week. I want to embed the habit of the N days fully. This has come up previously and was unanimously decided that it's not a good idea. I think Reinhard writes about that it the book, too. In fact, starting on an S day ...

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On the other hand, if you're like me and would rather eat nails than drink a plain glass of milk -- an orange or a banana might not be so bad. I've taken to a cafe au lait at those times. Milk seems to be Reinhard's idea of a good default snack. Maybe those who can't or don't want to drink milk coul...

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Those "Diets Don't Work / Weight Watchers Does" commercials crack me up. WW is a diet and it seems hard to stick to. I may be wrong, but it seems like false advertising to say it's not a diet. Congrats on taking up walking, Karen! That's a lot of steps! :) Those WW commercials crack me up, too. Whe...

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Yea, even if you've read the web site 20 times. There's more in the book.

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No, it's not. Try eating a little more at dinner -- like that orange or banana.

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Good for you! What a great idea!

wosnes

However, from other posters I keep reading about all their self imposed restrictions on N days and limits on 'S' days. I've been thinking about this and there are reasons beyond "dieting" or weight loss concerns for some restrictions. Health concerns come to mind. For instance, I have a history of ...

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Nossuzy wrote:A normal person that doesn't think about food all the time!

I think normal people think about food A LOT, even most of the time. But they think about it in a pleasurable way, about enjoying it, not with dread or fear.

wosnes

My problem is that I've been dieting on and off for 30 years now, so with S days coming up, I'm freaking out a little bit that I'm going to go overboard with the sweets (my downfall) and blow any progress I've already made during the week. What advice can you pros give us nervous newbies about this...

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Well, remember, it's not "no sugar", but "no sweets" -- so you avoid things that you'd consider a sweet treat or dessert.

wosnes

I've also read that in other cultures milk is rarely used as a beverage, but an ingredient to be used in cooking or baking. Asians don't often use dairy at all. Personally, I can deal with it as an ingredient or on cereal (with most of it left in the bowl), but not as a beverage. Though my kids drin...

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I had much the same experience last night. For various reasons, I ate only about 1/3 of my dinner. Not even an hour later, I was hungry. I knew water or other non-caloric beverage wasn't going to hold me until bedtime, let alone morning. The thought of drinking a glass of milk -- well, it's not goin...

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Speaking of green, this came in my email today: Food for All Seasons By LAUREL KALLENBACH Spring marks the opening of farmerâ€™s markets and an abundance of locally grown produce. But it only takes a small amount of effort to eat seasonal foods all year long. We live in an era in which our palettes ...

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I have a hard time believing whole milk is a problem in terms of weight management --Reinhard I don't think the issue is whole milk and weight management; it's that milk isn't a healthy food and whole milk is less healthy because of the hormones that attach to the fat. There are quite a few who bel...

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The other day it struck me, when did walking and biking become exercise and recreation instead of transportation? (Rhetorical question...) Oh, sometime after WWII when cars became more affordable, moving to the 'burbs became the ideal and neighborhoods with the grocery and all the other stores and ...

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Well, an "N" day is a normal day when you don't snack, eat sweets or have seconds. On "S" days (Saturday, Sunday and "special" days) you can indulge in snacks and/or sweets and/or seconds as you choose.

Can't help you with the sledge hammer question.

wosnes

There are a lot of foods, chocolate being one of them, that can be sweet or savory or a flavoring, or something to be consumed daily or that can be part of a sweet treat/dessert. Fruit, for instance. They can play dual roles.

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I think this explains why folks apply restrictions to both N and S days. This is from Mediterranean Women Stay Slim, Too : I have to say that I find some of the American attitude toward food a little strange. Women in particular seem to have a love-hate relationship with food, and we are teaching th...

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You're not doing anything wrong. I have that trouble on AOL, but not at all on another server. It's not just this board, either, it's many.

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Here's where you get to apply your rules. Do you think chocolate milk is a sweet? Well, actually I was agreeing with the fact that you get to apply your rules. Like I said, I've never considered chocolate milk a sweet or a treat. Likewise, I don't consider chocolate pudding thick chocolate milk.

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Here's where you get to apply your rules. Do you think chocolate milk is a sweet? I agree with Noel. I've never considered chocolate milk a treat or a sweet and certainly not on a par with chocolate pudding. I still [/b] won't drink milk that isn't flavored -- only now I usually flavor it with coff...

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Lordie, good thing I gave up drinking chocolate milk eons ago (as a child, it was the only way my parents could get me to drink milk). But honestly, I don't see why chocolate milk would be a sweet. Yes, it has more sugar than white milk, but certainly no more than jams or jellies or sweetened yogurt...

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mypalval...I start my "S" days on Friday night and end them late Sunday afternoon.

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The Today Show has a segment on Monday's called The Joy Fit club and it's about people, usually women who have lost weight and kept it off. The "how" doesn't matter as much as the fact that they did it. Quite a few as of late have used their own programs or just common sense. We need someone on The ...

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I was thinking that, too.

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You're not the only one who appreciates being able to have cookies or cake or other desserts on weekends. Some of us pretty routinely bake on weekends.

wosnes

Say I am unable to eat at mac donalds without overeating (i.e. it is a trigger food for me), then I will avoid McDonald's on N-days. This allows me to respect the rule "no seconds" more easily. Back in the Dark Ages when I was a teenager, McDonald's (or the like) was an S day treat. Saturday aftern...

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I'm trying to remember where I read that Americans are used to more "sweet" in their sweets than people from other countries. I usually don't find things that are homemade too sweet, but most store bought things are just awful. Plus, there's an "off" taste in so many of them that I think has to do w...

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You're exactly right.. No-S is meant to avoid the measuring, counting and food (or food group) avoidances of other plans. But, as jules said, many folks have come to this with long histories of following diets and the belief that some foods are "good" or "bad" instead of sources of pleasure and mayb...

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tj, you would probably get as many different answers as there are people to answer the question. What do you like to eat for breakfast, lunch and dinner? Exactly what you eat isn't as important as eating meals routinely and no snacks, no seconds, no sweets -- except on S days.

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No, not a failure, but a learning experience! I've been eating a little more food at breakfast and lunch because I realized that I was getting uncomfortably hungry about an before lunch and dinner. I overdid at lunch today. It's an hour or two past when I normally eat dinner, and I feel like I'd bur...

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Reinhard has probably said it here and said it in the book: If you're worried about being hungry between meals, eat a little more food at your meal than you think you'll need. It works. So do beverages when you're feeling hungry. Pretty soon you'll be able to determine exactly how much food you need...

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I have congestive heart failure and my cardiologist told me he wasn't worried about the salt I used in cooking or at the table, but to watch prepared foods. About 70% of the sodium in our diets comes from processed foods. He neglected to mention restaurant foods -- especially chain and fast-food res...

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Or when you're a kid and you're told you can play after you've done your chores. That's what I call "Gramma's Rule" and I follow it all the time. Get the work out of the way, then play. Problem for most of us is that we pack more and more work into our days and we forget to play. I've tried to neve...

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I no longer work outside the home, but I still eat the same things as when I was working away from home. I have some combination of soup/salad/sandwich (or bread) and fruit for lunch. The soup was always homemade. I've made a pot or two of soup weekly for years.

wosnes

I have a problem with rewards for doing what needs to be done. The result is the reward. The knowledge that I've done what needs to be done should be enough reward. Besides, weight loss comes with it's own rewards: buying new clothes, looking in the mirror and being pleased with what I see, knowing ...

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Supposedly making mayo is no big deal. I want to see what the difference is between homemade and the "best" in a jar. I already make all of my salad dressings. That could not be easier (and a lot cheaper than buying them, too). I got the idea a couple of months ago from an entry at slashfood. Since ...

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I eat between 5:30 and 6:30.

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Shoot, you can even have a sandwich with regular mayo if you want! I've done that. Next, I may even try to make mayo!

I've pretty much gone back to all full-fat products with just one exception (milk) and that's because I prefer the lower fat variety. Food is really much more satisfying now.

wosnes

Gee, this is the first time I've seen your post. I'm about the same height as your mom and 125-130 is my own ideal weight range. I could weigh less, but I tend to not feel well and look like I'm anorexic when I weigh less. There are so many variables in weight loss and those who have less to lose te...

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My advice? Forget the scale and concentrate on the habits. If you absolutely must weigh -- no more often than monthly.

The reason behind this is that we really don't have much control over how much we lose, but we have control over what we do. Why obsess over something you can't control?

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Blithe Morning wrote:One of the best reasons for No S, I think, is maintenance.

One of the best reasons for No S, I think, are the good habits -- which can be taught by example to others! Think of it: good habits + good food and all of a sudden you've got a much healthier and saner way of eating!

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My mother in law not so jokingly says I've become a food snob. I'm pretty proud of that. It doesn't have to be expensive or fancy but it has to be 100% real food. I'm also becoming a food snob. Two things happened yesterday that surprised me. One, I wanted a Coke -- what I really wanted was the col...

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milczar wrote:You can eat whatever you wish. But, personally, I wouldn't choke down powder, or a shake, or a bar if you paid me. Life is too short to eat crappy tasting food. Eating is one of life's simplest pleasures.

I couldn't agree more!

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