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Kathleen

TexArk,
I forgot about the Web site, so let me look into it. This past week has been incredibly busy because I was wrapping up volunteer work while trying to work full-time. Going forward, things should be easier. Thanks for the reminder.
Kathleen

Kathleen

October 29, 2011: The Many Point Diet The No S Diet : (Month 1) Day 1 - Monday, September 8, 2008: 215.0 (My goal is to lose one pound per month.) The Many Point Diet: (Month 1) Day 1 - Saturday, October 29, 2011: 209.0 (This month's goal is 178.0 pounds, and I am behind schedule by 31.0 pounds.) D...

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October 24, 2011: The Many Point Diet The No S Diet : (Month 1) Day 1 - Monday, September 8, 2008: 215.0 (My goal is to lose one pound per month.) The Many Point Diet: (Month 1) Day 1 - Monday, October 24, 2011: 206.0 (This month's goal is 178.0 pounds, and I am behind schedule by 28.0 pounds.) Ins...

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Journal: Saturday, October 15, 2011: It is amazing how much I can eat when I have no timing restrictions. This morning, I weighed 207.8. I decided, frankly, to bribe myself. There is a cheap piece of jewelry that I got from my parents that is a copper and black enamel pendant in the shape of a Gaeli...

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Pangelsue2,
That was a very uplifting post! I got so busy today -- going on an interview, presenting art to a 5th grade class, and trying to transfer stock -- that I forgot to eat lunch! Isn't that wonderful! Life is not meant to be a diet torture -- that much I know!
Kathleen

Kathleen

Clarica,
My husband was lecturing me this morning about portion control, but I don't think I can handle anything more than I am handling at the moment. The day may come when I can. In fact, I think I needed all this time just for no snacks and no sweets.
Kathleen

Kathleen

BrightAngel,
I'm having a tough enough time swallowing the pill that portion control is necessary, but my weight actually went up from yesterday so I concede your point. It's hard to face reality.
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Kathleen

Clarica, Oh, I'm feeling better. Jobhunting is a pain, and it didn't help that I got so fat I had to take off my wedding ring. My husband likes to quote John Paul II: "In Divine Providence there are no mere coincidences." It turns out that I had a prong on my ring that needed to be tipped. It may be...

Kathleen

October 4, 2011: The Many Point Diet The No S Diet (tweaked innumerable times) : (Month 1) Day 1 - Monday, September 8, 2008: 215.0 Restart (add the one plateful rule): (Month 1) Day 1 - Tuesday, October 4, 2011: 208.0 Number of Exception Days: As of beginning of day on Tuesday, October 4, 2011: 2 ...

Kathleen

Clarica, I'm absolutely shocked that my posting from so long ago inspired you. That is terrific. I do think I'm reverting to a "perfect compliance" approach with two Exception Days per month but I'm adding in the one plateful rule. With no snacks and no sweets as the only rules, I didn't get below 1...

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Clarica,
Your story has inspired me. I started before you and have lost fewer than 10 pounds, but I have been the master of tweaking. Now, with a little push from BrightAngel and your inspiring story, I am giving a first try to vanilla No S. Keep posting!
Kathleen

Kathleen

My goal is to follow plain vanilla No S and record the failures and successes and S Days.
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Kathleen

September 29, 2011: Vanilla No S Diet The No S Diet (tweaked innumerable times) : (Month 1) Day 1 - Monday, September 8, 2008: 215.0 Restart (vanilla No S): (Month 1) Day 1 - Thursday, September 29, 2011: 205.4 (Month 1) Day 3 - Saturday, October 1, 2011: 205.6 Status: Day 1 â€“ Thursday, September...

Kathleen

Too funny! I could not stand not having a partially full stomach that wasn't stuffed, and so I had two entire bowls of popcorn for lunch. Then I took the dog for a walk and thought about how I would change my diet now. Then I realized I had made a commitment to BrightAngel to follow vanilla No S unt...

Kathleen

Me, too, doppleganger!

Kathleen

OK, I just got another copy of The No S Diet (which is apparently now out of print) and the Blood Sugar 101 book.
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Kathleen

BrightAngel, I have fully explored the idea of dieting without "portion control" and found it to be -- in one word -- ineffective. I set up a modified No S Diet . If I decide to change it again, I'll go to vanilla No S. No added Exception Days. No tweaks. Can you believe it -- I had three copies of ...

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TexArk,
OK, but I am going to binge bigtime if I don't follow something in the interim, so I'm going to go to the No S Diet I had with modifications except I'll add one plateful. I have to meet with a recruiter today, but I definitely went off the rails with the fasting idea.
Kathleen

Kathleen

September 28, 2011: The Many Point Diet No snacks or sweets except on Sundays and a rolling average of two Exception Days per month. One plateful at meals. Liquids allowed outside of mealtime. The No S Diet : (Month 1) Day 1 - Monday, September 8, 2008: 215.0 (My goal is to lose one pound per month...

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TexArk,
It is not available from my library, so I went on Amazon and found that it had very good reviews. I put it in my cart and will get it when I have something more to order from Amazon so that I don't have a shipping charge. Thanks!
Kathleen

Kathleen

TexArk, Please do continue pestering me! I am glad that my blood sugar dropped, but I didn't think 95 was all that great. Also, my cholesterol is close to 200 which is considered normal, but it was over 200 previously. In the three years that I have followed The No S Diet , the common blood tests ha...

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TexArk, There is instant feedback from my body that enough is enough. For example, I had a small Dairy Queen blizzard -- that was all I could handle. I had as many caramels as I wanted yesterday. There were supposed to be 50 in the jar, and I just counted 48 left. I am certain I had more than 2, but...

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Hi reneew,
I think I went an entire year trying out an approach that was three behaviors of which one was to chew each bite ten times. Guess what happened when I finally gave up on that diet? For a long time after I gave up on that diet, I wanted to wolf everything down.
Kathleen

Kathleen

I think this is the key to successful, permanent weight loss: enjoying the feeling of lightness. My personal opinion is that the obesity epidemic is due to the fear of hunger that we are taught. It wasn't that way when I was growing up. "Don't spoil your appetite" is something I haven't heard since ...

Kathleen

You did it! You got below 300! Congratulations!!!
Kathleen

Kathleen

3-0-7 girl,
Thanks for clarifying. I think I need to go cold turkey on snacks and sweets just like I did this summer with coffee. In the end, we are all individuals and need to find our own way, but your approach has inspired me to try a different tact. Thanks.
Kathleen

Kathleen

TexArk, Those gorgeous pictures bring me back to my days of backpacking in Colorado, Wyoming, and Montana. I will look at the site beyond enjoying the pictures because, in the end, I think the problem is what it means to be hungry and how we get hungry. I came to the conclusion that the main problem...

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3-0-7 Girl, I got burned once again on giving up the No S rules of no snacks and no sweets. I am returning to it. My weight just did not get to an acceptable weight with No S, although I never tried the one plateful rule. I am going to try adding intermittent fasting to meal timing. We went to a Mex...

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NoSRocks,
Thank you for the encouragement. Keep me in your prayers!
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Kathleen

September 14, 2011: The Many Point Diet The No S Diet : (Month 1) Day 1 - Monday, September 8, 2008: 215.0 (My goal is to lose one pound per month.) Restart: (Month 1) Day 1 - Wednesday, September 14, 2011: 203.6 (This month's goal is 179.0 pounds, and I am behind schedule by 24.6 pounds.) My diet ...

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September 1, 2011: The Many Point Diet

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Eurobabe2,
Yes, I see that. It's easy to fool yourself unless you step on the scale. I was shocked to weigh 205 this morning.
Kathleen

Kathleen

You are getting close to being below 300! That is terrific!!!
Kathleen

Kathleen

A long time ago, I got in a conversation with someone who was very thin about weight management. She said she thought that people who were thin had learned to tolerate hunger. Since then, I have come to think that the key to weight loss is the willingness to wait -- not to deny but rather to wait. K...

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millieum,
I agree with you. I need to be more respectful of my weaknesses.
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Kathleen

Clarica, From what I have read, most people do not lose more than 10% of their bod weight. I think that the body may need a rest in weight loss at about 10% and those who hang on succeed in the long run. Isn't that what you just said to me? Don't change your diet. Just stick with it. You are doing g...

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TexArk, My mother had Italian ice as dessert twice. I had it without counting the day as an Exception Day because, I figured, it wasn't that sweet. When I got home, I carried over that idea to home and picked up some Italian ice. While there, I saw 12 ice cream sandwiches for $2.50 and picked them u...

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Clarica, Yes, I think I need to be motivated by having some complexity. I think I like to count! The pedometer has been a surprise success because I can count steps and enjoy getting more and more steps. I did follow my diet with little or no change from May of 2009 to the next year, and I didn't lo...

Kathleen

I'm starting over too -- today! No S approach of meal timing is terrific.
Kathleen

Kathleen

August 9, 2011: The Many Point Diet The No S Diet : (Month 1) Day 1 - Monday, September 8, 2008: 215.0 (My goal is to lose one pound per month.) Restart: (Month 1) Day 1 - Tuesday, August 9, 2011: 202.0 (This month's goal is 180.0 pounds, and I am behind schedule by 22.0 pounds.) My diet is a hybri...

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August 1, 2011: The Many Point Diet The No S Diet : (Month 1) Day 1 - Monday, September 8, 2008: 215.0 (My goal is to lose one pound per month.) Restart: (Month 1) Day 1 - Monday, July 26, 2011: 202.0 (This month's goal is 181.0 pounds, and I am behind schedule by 21.0 pounds.) (Month 2) Day 9 - Fr...

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July 26, 2011: The Many Point Diet The No S Diet : (Month 1) Day 1 - Monday, September 8, 2008: 215.0 (My goal is to lose one pound per month.) Restart: (Month 1) Day 1 - Monday, July 26, 2011: 202.0 (This month's goal is 181.0 pounds, and I am behind schedule by 22.0 pounds.) My diet is a hybrid o...

Kathleen

BrightAngel, I have a saying: "Some lessons are best learned the hard way." That may be the case with me. I will keep trying until I succeed or I realize that the constraints preclude success. Your comments are welcome, but I'm just not ready to admit defeat. I will say this, though: it is not helpf...

Kathleen

July 15, 2011: Cultivating the Virtue of Temperance The No S Diet : (Month 1) Day 1 - Monday, September 8, 2008: 215.0 (My goal is to lose one pound per month.) Restart: (Month 1) Day 1 - Friday, July 15, 2011: 201.0 (This month's goal is 181.0 pounds, and I am behind schedule by 20.0 pounds.) Day ...

Kathleen

Strawberry Roan,
Thanks. I think it's time to switch focus. The diet will work. It's been worth the long odyssey I've been on.
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Kathleen

Strawberry Roan,
This will all have been worth it if I can get to the point where I feel like I did on June 15. I think I'm close.
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Kathleen

July 9, 2011: Cultivating the Virtue of Temperance The No S Diet : (Month 1) Day 1 - Monday, September 8, 2008: 215.0 (My goal is to lose one pound per month.) Restart: (Month 2) Day 25 - Friday, July 9, 2011: 201.0 (This month's goal is 181.0 pounds, and I am behind schedule by 20.0 pounds.) My di...

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milliem,
Thanks! I think that for me the real shocker is just how easy it is to follow this diet. If I can actually lose weight by doing this, I'll be thrilled!
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Kathleen

milliem, I've been this weight many times before in the last three years. When I told my husband about my new revision to the diet, I asked him what weight I would be before he believed it was working. He said 180. I did buy some shorts that are two small in the hope that I will fit in them in the n...

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debrabuf, 1. My tip: Don't worry about S Day eating. It is more an indication of where you have been than where you are going. I once ate about 4,000 calories of caramel macadamian clusters. You couldn't pay me $1,000 to do that again! 2. I modified the diet right away. I just could not manage to re...

Kathleen

Sienna,
What a wonderful start to the rest of your life! Congratulations!
Kathleen

Kathleen

July 1, 2011: Cultivating the Virtue of Temperance The No S Diet : (Month 1) Day 1 - Monday, September 8, 2008: 215.0 (My goal is to lose one pound per month.) Restart: (Month 1) Day 1 - Tuesday, June 7, 2011: 205.0 (This month's goal is 182.0 pounds, and I am behind schedule by 23.0 pounds.) (Mont...

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When I started No S, I was waiting for a job offer to come through and my kids were in school. I literally had nothing to do but to endure the hours between meals. There is a famous experiment by a scientist called Pavlov who would feed dogs immediately after ringing a bell, and he measured addition...

Kathleen

TexArk, I think vanilla No S may work well for a young man like Reinhard but not result in an acceptable weight for an older female. No S can be a good baseline, but additional restrictions may need to be added. I am experimenting with fasting, and you are experimenting with calorie counting, but we...

Kathleen

"8 Steps to a Pain Free Back". I've never had back pain, but my husband has and so I took some time to do some research and found this book. I changed my posture and it had a great impact on me.
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Kathleen

TexArk, I had an egg salad sandwich at lunch to get some protein into me. I just feel strange because I aboslutely positively do not want to eat to the point of being stuffed, but I'm not sure how much to eat to be satisfied. My goal is to stick to the diet and not worry about it. I'll experiment wi...

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osoniye, When I started No S, I literally gripped the edge of my chair to fast from breakfast to lunch. I have been trying fasting and think that combining it with No S could be a good approach, although -- as I recall -- Reinhard in his book said skipping meals is a bad idea. I stuck with No S for ...

Kathleen

Eurobabe2, Thanks for the tip! I have had to face the fact that Tom's online tutoring with tutorvista was counterproductive in that he could get As on homework and then got Cs on tests. When I tried to return to work as a technical writer, I found lots of opportunities for writing papers. I viewed t...

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KCCC, I will track steps and will track Temperance Points, both of which are behaviors rather than results. We cannot control the results. We can only control the behaviors, so I appreciate what you are saying. I preach all the time to the kids: "Actions have consequences." Well, the same is true fo...

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KCC, I am still hopeful that I can make up for being behind schedule so many months. I do try to focus on behavior, but my benchmark since the beginning has been one pound per month. Yes, it can be discouraging to be up and down the same pounds, but I remind myself of how far I have come. Food is no...

Kathleen

Who Me? I tried No S for an entire year and got down to 195. I did not follow the one plate rule but did follow the no snacks and no sweets rules and got to one S Day per week (Sunday) plus two Exception Days per month. When I started No S, it was torture to fast from breakfast to lunch. That's why ...

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Well, I'm way more upset right now about what I've figured out my son doesn't know for math. My husband has had the attitude "let him fail" but even he is appalled that a kid in advanced math who has completed the requirements for high school math (Algebra II) somehow managed a B when he didn't know...

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June 7, 2011: Cultivating the Virtue of Temperance The No S Diet : (Month 1) Day 1 - Monday, September 8, 2008: 215.0 (My goal is to lose one pound per month.) Restart: (Month 1) Day 1 - Tuesday, June 7, 2011: 205.0 (This month's goal is 182.0 pounds, and I am behind schedule by 23.0 pounds.) Tempe...

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Who Me? I was just so excited about work because I've been a stay at home Mom for so many years and this was my first time working right in the thick of a project and someone actually wanted to hire me! I also think I took on more than I could handle with this diet, thinking that being home would ma...

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milleum,
Thanks for the meal ideas. I think I got too aggressive in what I was doing with fasting, and it backfired. To me, portion control means controlling the amount you eat instead of having as much as you want at designated meal times.
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Kathleen

TexArk, I don't mind the questions. I have gotten quite accustomed to not having sweets on N Days, although I do occasionally have pop. My breakfasts are generally Cheerios or oatmeal. I've found that skipping lunch seems to work well. I do have liquids, especially 2% milk. As for dinner, I am not a...

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oolala53, I don't think of fasting as a portion control approach to eating. What I am doing is fasting intermittently and then eating as much as I want when I do eat. My Sundays of "unconditional permission to eat" could be labelled as binges, but I do not consider them to be because I feel in contr...

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oolala53,
Fasting ends but portion control never does. That's why I think that portion control eventually leads to binge behavior.
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Kathleen

Clarica, Go ahead with mapping out my weight vs my plan to see what you find. Both of your observations were very interesting. I did change my diet on Thursday to try a fast to breakfast on Friday rather than dinner on Thursday, and the result was a binge. The 200 pound barrier may have a psychologi...

Kathleen

June 4, 2011: Cultivating the Virtue of Temperance The No S Diet : (Month 1) Day 1 - Monday, September 8, 2008: 215.0 (My goal is to lose one pound per month.) Restart: (Month 1) Day 1 - Saturday, June 4, 2011: 203.8 (This month's goal is 182.0 pounds, and I am behind schedule by 21.8 pounds.) Temp...

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Strawberry Roan, I look back a few years and think that "taking a break" would not be how I would have described fasting. Isn't it interesting that the society promotes the idea that a person is famished if a meal is delayed? I think that the defining characteristic of the obese person is gullibilit...

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Strawberry Roan, I like TexArk's view that we are all an experiment of one. I realized that I was successful for many years on a diet of periodic severe calorie restriction triggered by my weight going above 135. Here I am above 200, and I got such an aversion to how I felt dieting like that that I'...

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Strawberry Roan, What's surprising to me is how easy it is to skip lunch! Right now, I have the table covered with cans and boxes of food because I'm putting new shelf paper in the pantry. In an hour, I'll be attending a thank you party for the first grade volunteers. With fasting twice per week, I ...

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June 1, 2011: Cultivating the Virtue of Temperance The No S Diet : (Month 1) Day 1 - Monday, September 8, 2008: 215.0 (My goal is to lose one pound per month.) Restart: (Month 1) Day 1 - Saturday, May 31, 2011: 207.0 (This month's goal is 183.0 pounds, and I am behind schedule by 24.0 pounds.) Temp...

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oolala53,
January 20th of this year. I've been looking at fasting for longer than that, and ESE didn't much affect my views. I was more intrigued by religious traditions.
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oolala53, I got Brad Pilon's download book for $40 and it does have some interesting ideas in it. In fact, he brought up the fasting among Greek Orthodox, and that may be why I started looking into fasting regulations for the Greek Orthodox Church. It was definitely worth the $40 to me to read the b...

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Tina, I have read about the fat acceptance movement. My personal view is that the diet industry has created a lot of the problem and the fat acceptance movement is a rebellion against doing the impossible, that is, against fighting your body's survival mechanism against starvation. I've been back an...

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oolala53, I've figured out that I have no or almost no recognition of the need to eat. When I fast, I don't feel hungry. I'm reading through The Alternate Day Diet now, and this morning I read a great line from the book to Tom: "No diet will work without a plan that overcomes our inclination to eat ...

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May 7, 2011: Cultivating the Virtue of Temperance The No S Diet : (Month 1) Day 1 - Monday, September 8, 2008: 215.0 (My goal is to lose one pound per month.) Restart: (Month 1) Day 1 - Saturday, May 7, 2011: 207.0 (This month's goal is 183.0 pounds, and I am behind schedule by 24.0 pounds.) Temper...

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milleum, Kevin, and BrightAngel, Oh, my, I do realize that you can change your thoughts to change your behavior. I am not the same person I was as a teenager because of the influence on me of what I have read and what I have experienced. It occurred to me today, when I had lots of time to think whil...

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TexArk and milleum, Your posting to me made me realize that it is not a problem to fast but it is a problem to limit portions. Why? I found the explanation in Why We Get Fat that carbs trigger hunger to be a possible explanation. Still, there is something more there than a physical effect. I think i...

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May 1, 2011: Cultivating the Virtue of Temperance The No S Diet : (Month 1) Day 1 - Monday, September 8, 2008: 215.0 (My goal is to lose one pound per month.) Restart: (Month 1) Day 1 - Sunday, May 1, 2011: 207.4 (This month's goal is 183.0 pounds, and I am behind schedule by 24.4 pounds.) This die...

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April 8, 2011: Cultivating the Virtue of Temperance The No S Diet : (Month 1) Day 1 - Monday, September 8, 2008: 215.0 (My goal is to lose one pound per month.) Restart: (Month 1) Day 1 - Friday, April 8, 2011: 205.2 (This month's goal is 184.0 pounds, and I am behind schedule by 21.2 pounds.) Weig...

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Who Me? I think perfection is impossible, too. It's impossible to be a perfect spouse, but it is possible to be faithful. Limiting when I eat seems to me to be achievable with perfection, just like being faithful can be achieved with perfection. I'm not eliminating foods or limiting any quantities w...

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Kevin, My first reaction was "Oh, come on, a pint of ice cream is hardly a binge." I found the link very interesting. I have read about the idea that we humans are just the necessary result of genetics and behavior. It all comes from a lack of belief in God, since it was God who gave us free will. Y...

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TexArk, My husband is not happy at the moment that I brought home a dog that was running around filthy dirty, wet, and cold. We gave her a bath, called the police, and called the owners who are not home. Tom reluctantly agreed to keep the dog overnight. Yes, it is true that there are lots of bad hab...

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millieum, Sensitivity to the environment as an explanation for obesity is something I read is some diet book somewhere. It's actually part of the idea behind the Mindless Eating book by Brian Wansink. Brian Wansink was interviewed as one of the podcasts put on ITunes by the Yale University Rudd Cent...

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TexArk, I know! I know! I know! I cannot believe that this would be the solution, but here I am. Having perfect compliance cuts me off from even entertaining an exception because the consequences are so dire. It's similar to my view of infidelity -- simply unacceptable! It also makes it so that the ...

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April 2, 2011: Cultivating the Virtue of Temperance The No S Diet : (Month 1) Day 1 - Monday, September 8, 2008: 215.0 (My goal is to lose one pound per month.) Restart: At the start of each month, I designate Special Days. On Special Days and the weekend, there are no rules. On all other days, I h...

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Eurobabe2,
That was a very uplifting post to read as I try to make myself feel better with honey and green tea. The long winter is getting to me now. I'll take your recommendation on the exercising.
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millieum, Yes, I have. Since I was successful in counting calories for about 10 years, I know it isn't willpower. Since my life has changed dramatically since our youngest was a baby, I presume it's not some sort of emotional response to the environment. There is no gourmand in me when I binge: I wi...

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March 29, 2011: Cultivating the Virtue of Temperance The No S Diet : (Month 1) Day 1 - Monday, September 8, 2008: 215.0 (My goal is to lose one pound per month.) Vanilla No S Diet: (Month 1) Day 1 - Tuesday, March 29, 2011: 205.4 (This month's goal is 185.0 pounds, and I am behind schedule by 20.4 ...

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milleum, I can explain by way of a story. Once my two young daughters got into a fight, and I asked each of them when it started. The youngest said, "When I was thinking about putting my legs on Katie's legs." Well, I had to laugh at the accuracy of that assessment! We call her "The Instigator." Any...

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Portion control predictably and immediately results in binge behavior.
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BrightAngel,
Sometimes there is no going back. I don't have to work at all to continue in recognizing the truth. What I have to do is keep from taking out on my kids (through being grumpy) that I don't like the reality I have managed to avoid for 52 years!!!
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Thanks, TexArk. I was awake for about three hours last night and then I had a 7 AM meeitng! Now I'm back home, about to take the kids to the Mall of America for mini-golf, and I feel sick. It's hard to mourn a reality that you have been denying, but I have this disappointment to compare with the fat...

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March 25, 2011: Cultivating the Virtue of Temperance In order to lose weight, I am becoming an accountant. Instead of counting calories or carbs, I am counting Exception Days, Fast Days, steps, and strengthening exercises. Over several years, I gave up on the idea of "portion control" as a way to l...

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TexArk, I have noticed. In fact, I was thinking of starting over later this week when I have in place my pedometer and exercise program, but then I decided that this is like rewarding bad behavior. For example, if my daughter is late to the bus, does she then get a ride to school? It's easy to rewar...

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Hi BrightAngel, I saw nothing wrong with the binge/fast cycle, but I certainly got a lot of feedback from others to warn me! This approach does seem more sensible. I'm also learning that the pedometer is very useful for me as a way to monitor and increase steps. Yesterday, I logged under 5,000 steps...

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osoniye,
Very interesting! I'm wondering what other cultures have had both fasting and feasting. For me, right now, I am a little hungry and it's not yet 10. Still, I can last until lunchtime because I can eat as much as I want at lunch. Pepper just let me know she expects a walk...
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