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milliem

Oh ouch that sucks :( It must be hard not to get demoralised when you're STILL ill, but you've been doing SO well, your green days are pretty much constant, I'm very envious! Is there any other way you can treat yourself today? It doesn't have to be food (we all know how dangerous those 'I deserve i...

milliem

So, I've been pondering how to record my N and S days when I go away on an extended holiday later this year. Although I'll have access to a netbook and wifi, I'm not sure how much time I'll have for logging on to the website. Given that I'll be away for 5 weeks I want to mostly try and keep to NoS, ...

milliem

milliem: I am an enormous fan of CBT. I've had a problem with depression for a lot of my life, including a hospitalization for suicidal ideation about six years ago. Of all the medication and various therapies I've been through, CBT was hands-down the very most helpful for me. I know no one therapy...

milliem

Oh i so know where you are coming from, being tired and stressed out is NOT good for the motivation :) Maybe you could make something quick and portable to have around at lunchtimes so you can easily reach for it while you are doing other stuff? Maybe a wrap with some nice filling (hummus and roaste...

milliem

Friday 20th May : Failure Breakfast: none Lunch: tortellini with blue cheese dressing Dinner: 3 slices pizza, small garlic bread slice and few potato wedges Dessert: 2 dominos cookies (yum!) Drinks: lots :oops: :lol: I did really well until dinner - didn't even have my afternoon mini meal as I wasn'...

milliem

I just have no control when it comes to the weekends. I'm going to qualify what I'm about to say with the information that I am an alcohol counsellor and work with people who are heavily addicted/dependant on alcohol and other drugs. I am not saying I think you're an addict or are dependant on anyt...

milliem

Ok so in the interests of full disclosure last night was another Friday night fail :oops: :lol: I had been contemplating taking a NWS 'event' during the evening to celebrate my OH passing an exam, but given that we went out for some drinks, I thought about staying vanilla, then caved and bought a ch...

milliem

I have trouble with Friday nights too! I've resisted allowing it as an S day mod so far, but I often have failures on Fridays. Last week I did really well until around 9pm, then was on my own pootling around the house, got bored and had a MASSIVE binge! Ugh. I find it worse when I'm by myself rather...

milliem

Lunch was B-I-G (on purpose, because I had a 'game night' 4-6pm with snacks/desserts that I wanted to easily resist), so I had planned dinner to be smaller. Then I went and worked out afterwards, and ended up with a semi-full/normal sized plate for dinner.. anyway, I enjoyed it! If it fits on a pla...

milliem

I've slightly adapted NoS to allow myself a small meal/snack at around 4-5pm when I get home from work, before my evening meal at 7-8pm or later. I was finding that waiting 6+ hours between lunch and dinner just was making me too hungry, and having 5+ hours between dinner and bedtime also wasn't wor...

milliem

Yesterday was a success, woo! I had a few crisps, carrot sticks and nuts at book club, but didn't permasnack, and allowed myself two small squares of some yummy roasted hazelnut chocolate (while resisting caramel squares, coconut bites and cute little cakes!) It's been a while since I had a 4-day su...

milliem

You're doing brilliantly skykitty, well done!!

It's funny how easily you can resist sometimes.... I tend to find it really easy to resist when someone offers me a snack or sweet, but when I'm left to my own devices and bored/tired/stressed it's just SO much harder!

milliem

Sorry to hear you're having a tough week gk!

Is there anything you can do to adapt your eating plan while you are so busy, to try and keep you at least eating to plan even if your plan isn't quite perfect?

milliem

Nicest of the Damned wrote:Is anyone else hearing Whitesnake singing the title of this thread?

Now I am!

milliem

Thursday 19th May: Breakfast: porridge Lunch: 1/2 panini with hummus, banana, apple Afternoon: asparagus, sweet potato w/blue cheese http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2674/5736819799_bef8e6742f_m.jpg Asparagus and sweet pot by milliem1 , on Flickr Bit of an odd day today, but i'll count it as a success...

milliem

Wednesday 18th May: Success

Breakfast: none
Lunch: bacon and egg sandwich, pineapple
Afternoon: chicken and cheese wrap
Dinner: lamb, sweet potato chips, leeks

milliem

S events sound tempting to me, but I actually think it's quite good for me to try not to eat sugary sweet things for a few days straight. It seems the less of them I eat the less I crave. Same actually with high fat processed foods like takeaway - once i've started eating I have a hard time stopping...

milliem

Tuesday 17th May: Success Breakfast: small spiced apple yoghurt Lunch: hummus and vegetable wrap, apple, snack-a-jacks Afternoon: two leftover sausages, ketchup Dinner: Ham and cheese tortellini Eh, I ate about half an hour ago and I already feel hungry! Need to make sure my dinner platefuls are lar...

milliem

Monday 16th May: Success Breakfast: none Lunch: corned beef, onion and pickle roll, crisps, apple Dinner: spicy sweet potato and half enchilada (leftover from yesterday) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3186/5727193024_418bb3b37e_m.jpg Enchilada and sweet potato by milliem1 , on Flickr Looks like a bi...

milliem

What a perfect S Day....a normal N Day with a dash of S here and there. Someday I hope to accomplish this! It didn't feel perfect!! The evening was ok (one plate followed by dessert) but there were a LOT of chocolates in that easter egg!! I guess it just doesn't feel as 'normal' to be eating chocol...

milliem

I was eyeing up those leek toasts a few days ago, I love that blog! I just need to get some nice blue cheese.... oh and some leeks

milliem

Saturday 14th May: S day

Breakfast: nigella bar
Snack: Thornton's chocolates (from easter egg)
Lunch: leftover cantonese chicken and rice
Dinner: Vegetable lasagne, salad and garlic bread
Dessert: clotted cream ice cream

milliem

Thanks gk! I do cheat a little by only 'remembering' to take a photo of the nice looking meals ;) I can't take my phone to work unfortunately so you don't get to see my pseudo-plates of sarnies'n'stuff :P Friday 13th May: Success Breakfast: half a nigella bar (in a rush) Lunch: cheese and pickle san...

milliem

anniej wrote:
Today did well. I decided for the first 3 weeks to eat whatever I want (within reason, of course) for my 3 meals.

B.

This is a great idea, build the habits first and then think about what you are eating

Sounds like you are doing well so far!

milliem

Homemade marmalade is just the best

Hope you feel better soon!

milliem

Awesome 4 green days in a row! Well done

milliem

Sauteed

Would work really well with Glamorgan sausages!

milliem

Thursday 12th May: Success Breakfast: nigella bar Lunch: salt beef sarnie, yoghurt, 2 kiwi fruit Afternoon:1 slice toast w/peanut butter Dinner: Sausages, leeks and sweet potato http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2419/5713305043_eea1c24678.jpg Sausage, leek and sweet potato by milliem1 , on Flickr The s...

milliem

Wednesday 11th May: Success Breakfast: nigella bar Lunch: bacon and egg sandwich, kiwi fruit, yoghurt, handful of unsalted cashew nuts Afternoon: 1 slice toast w/peanut butter, 1 poached egg Dinner: mushroom and onion teriyaki noodles Drinks: tea, water, flavoured sparkling water Having the afternoo...

milliem

My understanding is that technically NoS refers only to foods rather than drinks. However 'sweets' includes anything that could reasonably be seen as a dessert - so I include any milkshake as a 'sweet'. Personally I am similar to you in that I have always been very anti-diet (I just can't hack havin...

milliem

Ouch still sick

Poor you! Hopefully you'll have a nice restful few days to recover.

milliem

ljk has a great point - if I added up all the times I would have unthinkingly reached for a snack, a chocolate bar or a second portion before NoS I probably would have been red on all three counts pretty much every single day. Even on failure days I rarely fail on all three 'S's'. That's a massive i...

milliem

Tuesday 10th May: Success

Breakfast: none
Lunch: bacon and egg sarnie, pineapple
Afternoon: slice toast with peanut butter
Dinner: spicy sausage, red pepper and red onion with couscous

Drinks: sugar-free 7up, tea, water

milliem

Monday 9th May: Failure Breakfast: nigella bar Lunch: spinach, feta and tomato quiche, paprika crisps Dinner: pork, new potatos and guacamole After dinner sweet: easter egg chocolate I'm not sure why I'm struggling so much lately! I think I'm going to have to try a mod of some kind, I just can't see...

milliem

Spicy Mice? (By the way, I wasn't calling out any *particular* horse faced hat wearer....) Mince! Damn I should fix that typo :) I didn't think so, how could you possibly choose one?! I ended up having porridge with prunes and brown sugar for 'dinner' on sunday. Far too sweet a day overall I think,...

milliem

Sunday 8th May: S day

Brunch: 2 poached eggs on toast
Snack: doughnut and chocolate bar

Dinner: No idea yet....

milliem

Saturday 7th May: S day Breakfast: none Lunch: cheese and onion pastry roll Afternoon 'snack' (with friend): 2 doughnuts and a mango slushie Snack: breakfast bar (really no need to eat this apart from greed :/) Dinner: off out for dinner (Italian) with the OH tonight Gosh, I had a lovely 3 course me...

milliem

Heh, this time you can reach for the GOOD ice cream (but make it a single ice cream rather than a tub?!)

milliem

I think I'm going to challenge myself to exercise at least 14 minutes a day, 5x a week for the rest of May - I started shugging but slacked off this week (not helped by an unrelated pulled muscle in my neck), but there is no excuse for not doing SOMETHING most days. Green will be days when I make an...

milliem

I'm in the same boat as you Talia, if I haven't eaten dinner by about 6.30pm I get horribly hungry!! Lately if I know I'm having a late dinner I plan a small mini-meal for around 4pm to tide me over. I need to be really careful that this doesn't turn into 'hmm if I eat dinner at 9pm I can have extra...

milliem

You can eyeball it or 'virtual plate' as it were. If you had a large plateful of food and then a yoghurt and fruit afterwards - that might be too much. If you could fit them all onto one plate if you wanted to, you're alright.

Congratulations on 2 successful days so far!

milliem

Keep going, you're doing brilliantly :) Maybe try tracking sweets/seconds/snacks separately so you can see your progress made in all three of the changes to your habits? Might be more motivational if you think you'll struggle particularly with the sweets aspect! I have been contemplating starting my...

milliem

Hehe, oops MINCE, i meant mince.... :P Friday 6th May: Success Breakfast: nigella bar Lunch: hummus on panini, orange Mini-meal: nigella bar, milk Dinner: curry (planned) My dinner plate was RATHER stuffed full although technically it all fit on one plate... as I balanced my poppadom on top of the c...

milliem

Thursday 5th May: Success

Breakfast: nigella bar
Lunch: hummus and vegetable wrap, apple/grape/pineapple fruit salad
Dinner: 1 and a half sausage sarnies

Drinks: tea, bottle of flavoured carbonated water

milliem

Who Me? wrote:Also, not having loads of treats laying around makes sense.

I really try not to have sweets around during the week - that way if I'm going to fail I have to actually go out and purchase a snack or sweet. So much more difficult to justify to myself.

milliem

To me, giving up smoking was a very different ball game from changing eating habits. It's an addiction . It usually takes a lot of planning and preparation (telling people you're going to quit, chucking out all your smokes and paraphernalia, getting patches, seeing your doctor, avoiding 'high risk' ...

milliem

Ooh well done on passing up donuts, they are one of my major weaknesses!

milliem

Wednesday 4th May: Breakfast: homemade breakfast bar (turned out to be date, walnut and dessicated coconut which was what I had in the cupboard :)) Lunch: spicy mice tortilla wrap, kiwi fruit Dinner: spring onion omelette, salad with light dressing http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5141/5687161313_5e44...

milliem

Now I'm not an expert or anything but I'm sure I read somewhere that it's an evolutionary thing. Fats, sugars and salt was rare in our early diet so finding something that combines 2 or more than these is an instant 'WOOHOO!' to our evolutionary brain. So we crave MORE! I don't think our brains have...

milliem

Gosh if I think about how I used to eat I'm pretty sure I had at LEAST one of the three 'S's' every single day. I might not be losing weight fast (probably due to my not particularly brilliant meal choices :roll:) but my general food intake is SO much better than it used to be! Don't be disheartened...

milliem

Tuesday 3rd May: Success Breakfast: none Lunch: spicy mince tortilla wrap, 2 kiwi fruit Dinner: 2 slices pizza, 2 slices garlic bread, salad http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5146/5684703458_f1f028b248_m.jpg Pizza plate by milliem1 , on Flickr Dinner plate possibly rather large/overstuffed but I felt s...

milliem

You're doing brilliantly on the N day eating, well done! Hopefully the other habits will come with time too :) Giving up smoking is TOUGH! I didn't take any of the bank holidays as S days actually - Easter Sunday was already an S day, and as I'm not particularly religious I had no real reason to mak...

milliem

Nice work on your green day yesterday

milliem

Haha, to be fair though, 'horse faced and wearing a hat' describes a large proportion of people attending the Royal Wedding on Friday.... in-breeding creates some quite unfortunate looking Royals. Bless 'em.

milliem

I've never had a huge problem with seconds (I tend to get full relatively quickly) but my sweet tooth is a big problem! I'd have something for dessert, then maybe a chocolate bar later on, then maybe something else a bit later.... Mind you they also count as snacks so maybe 'sweet snacks' would be m...

milliem

Monday 2nd May: Success Breakfast: none Lunch: poached chicken, carrot salad, lettuce and mayo in a wrap with a few boiled new potatoes and butter. Dinner: spicy minced beef fajita, oven baked sweet potato fries Drinks: sugar free squash (two pints), cup of tea with skimmed milk I'm glad this was a ...

milliem

Smog is adorable, glad he's feeling better!

Your S days are enviably moderate compared to mine

milliem

The 'phases of NoS' posts suggests that it's actually normal to binge on S days - at least at first. Habits can take a while to build and this should reduce over the months. I actually found that the less sweets/sugar I consumed during the week, the less I WANTED during the week. I'm usually totally...

milliem

Thanks TexArk! It is interesting the difference between how different countries eat :) I'm not a big breakfast eater but I do love bacon, eggs and toast/muffins when I have the time! I haven't made it to a 21 day NoS streak yet, but I've been doing this for over a month now with only 3 (I think) fai...

milliem

There's no need to record what you eat if it's not something you find helpful - maybe try using the habitcal. You just record green, red and S days and it's a great visual check of how you are doing habitwise without the faff

milliem

Sunday 1st May: S day

Brunch: fried egg, 2 rashers bacon, home baked sweet potato fries
Snack: easter egg chocolate
Dinner: cheese and prosciutto pizza
Snack: kiwi fruit, bit more chocolate

Shovelglove: Yes

milliem

What are cheese curds?!

milliem

Wow only 3 failures that's an awesome month! Well done

milliem

TexArk and milleum, At any rate, I'm now in the role of working Mom rushing from one commitment to the next. I think it's best right now for me to put analysis on the back burner and just do. I've been thrashing around way too long. Kathleen Excellent plan, I read so much about diets and NoS but it...

milliem

I tend to not eat breakfast at all, have lunch around 12-1pm and dinner around 6-7pm. I did get really hungry at the beginning of NoS and was piling my dinner plates high! :lol: If you are feeling genuinely hungry and trying to build habits, maybe try having one small, planned, healthy snack in the ...

milliem

I agree with Tex, a small bowl of cereal and a small slice of pizza wouldn't be enough to sustain most people throughout the day! Try having bigger portions for breakfast/lunch and see how that goes - after all, vanilla NoS IS portion control - one plate is a portion. Doesn't specify how big the pla...

milliem

Saturday 30th April: S day

Breakfast: none
Lunch: small portion pork ravioli, crisps
Snack: some chocolates, more crisps
Dinner: bacon, mushroom and cheese omelette, glass of milk

milliem

Haha, nope the party wasn't on THAT grand a scale!

I'm not sure the royals do 'internet forums'....

milliem

Thursday 28th April: Failure Breakfast: muesli with skimmed milk Lunch: Pork ravioli cooked in vegetable stock Dinner: brownies and crisps!! Shovelglove: Yes Friday 29th April: success A slightly iffy success but I had an 'S event' today for lunch as I was at a big family party - there was a huge bu...

milliem

I'm not an expert, but I think that in order to gain weight, you need to figure out the amount of calories you burn in a day and make sure you eat more. Try for a balance of protein, carbs and fat, and also do resistance exercise (weights). Those extra calories you eat should then be turned into mus...

milliem

Wednesday 27th April: Failure Breakfast: none Lunch: Mussels in white wine and garlic http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5221/5661141388_6591417b82_m.jpg Mussels by milliem1 , on Flickr Dinner: half a duck wrap, cup of tea Doh another failure! I meant to eat breakfast this morning but didn't, and my lun...

milliem

I ended up with the 7lb-er - and phew I'm glad! I'm not sure I'd have been able to lift the heavier one let along swing it around like a madwoman :lol: I'm on Day 3 of Shovelglove now, working my way up to 14 minutes as my arms get sore after about 10 mins at the moment, but I've taken to doing a fe...

milliem

Good luck gk!

Sounds like a sensible approach to take it slowly, and to pay attention to when you are actually full

milliem

What on earth is GoGurt?!

milliem

I know I know!

I had a real 'oh bugger it' day yesterday and rather than throwing out or giving away my leftover (opened) snacks and sweets I just indulged myself. Hoping to get back on track today and ignore the two large Easter eggs that are sitting on the counter....

milliem

Hehe that made me giggle

My Easter chocolate is sitting looking forlornly at me and wondering why I haven't opened it yet

After the random large meals and indulgences over the weekend I didn't have a single bite!

milliem

Ouch, I don't know how I'd cope without potatoes! I do love potato salad that sounded delicious!

milliem

Congratulations on your success!

milliem

Thanks :) Only from my phone as I never remember to take my camera anywhere, but they come out ok! Tuesday 26th April: Success Breakfast: none Lunch: tuna and sweetcorn sandwich Lunch continued: packet of crisps Dinner: mushroom omelette and 1/3 of a naan bread http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5030/56...

milliem

Monday 25th April: Failure :( Damn what is it about Mondays?! I think I was still in 'holiday mode' from the Easter weekend, and just could not resist the temptation of all the snack food I still had in the house. I did do relatively OK until dinnertime... Breakfast: carrot muffin, cup of tea Lunch:...

milliem

As an adult, I totally reserve the right to say 'bugger it' and have a naughty day, whether that be a duvet day, a day of snacking, or a day of indulgent shopping. As an adult, I also know the consequences of doing it and what I am prepared to deal with. This is why I don't skip work/pull a sickie, ...

milliem

Sunday 24th April: S day Breakfast: small yoghurt Snack: 3 mini eggs Lunch: goats cheese and spinach with a slice of wholemeal bread, lamb roast dinner, blueberry and raspberry custard tart: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5309/5649545925_bfa29ccd94.jpg Fruit tart by milliem1 , on Flickr Snack: Small...

milliem

Welcome back to NoS

milliem

Brilliant job Who Me!!! Well done for staying on habit

milliem

Yep! And I really need to make Monday an N day given how much crap I ate this evening

A french fancy is a small square piece of cake, with a splodge of fondant on the top and then covered in thin icing. Very very sweet! Too sweet actually, I think my tolerance for sugar is diminishing!

milliem

Saturday: S day Breakfast: instant porridge with a little honey, yoghurt Lunch: beef, asparagus and baby spinach stir fry Sweet: 2 french fancies Dinner: leftover beef with stir fried rice Dessert: chocolate flake pot Also ate two more french fancies and a few hobnobs! Urgh I feel way too full... Ex...

milliem

Hi Naomi, sorry to hear you're feeling a bit down about things, hopefully getting back into NoS will give you a boost :) I know some people weigh daily but only record their lowest weight for the week, and some record weekly at the same time. Personally I hop on the scales fairly frequently but I do...

milliem

Friday 22nd April: success

Breakfast: hot cross bun
Lunch: hunters chicken baguette
Dinner: meatballs and mashed potato

milliem

I think I might start to photo-check in some of my meals, well my dinners at least (I don't usually have access to my phone/camera during the day). It might help to see the food I'm eating in terms of figuring out if my portion sizes are too large! Anyway, just testing..... http://farm6.static.flick...

milliem

I'm having trouble with late night hunger. Real hunger gnawing stomach discomfort. It is taking all my self control to not eat a piece of fruit or some bread in the hours after dinner. I'm also feeling very isolated in this practice. Food is very social, and saying "no thanks" to the various treats...

milliem

Thursday 21st April: Success Another 'yellow' success day as I have an 's' event this evening (little sister's birthday, so we are off out for a lovely meal later - there will be a starter and a dessert :P) Breakfast: orange juice and half an apple Lunch: mixed bean salad, chicken bites, yoghurt Din...

milliem

Thanks for the replies, I think 7lb is probably the way to go for now - I can always upgrade at some point in the future

milliem

Hehe, my boyfriend made me promise not to do it while he is in the vicinity!

milliem

You've done really well so far, keep at it!

Sometimes if I have a graze-urge I get a glass of skimmed milk, or sugar-free squash, or even just water and sip at it - mostly it works to curb the snacking urge.

p.s. 15 types of bean?! I didn't know there were that many....

milliem

You are definitely right snapdragon, thanks :) And I'm glad that my weight is now firmly wedged in the 'overweight' category rather than hovering right on the line of 'obese' - that's something, and even if I don't lose incredible amounts of weight I really want to keep it under 30. I've decided to ...

milliem

Hi all, I'm a shovelglove virgin but have been seriously considering getting into weight/resistance training to boost my fitness (and have read a hell of a lot recently about the benefits of weight training even over cardio for losing weight). As I hate gyms and want something I can do at home, shov...

milliem

I think I'm going to also track exercise - I've become a bit more sedentary in recent weeks as I've been working in a place that I need to commute to by car rather than my usual place of work that I can walk to. I don't have any specific goals for exercise at the moment, but it would be useful for m...

milliem

Tuesday 19th april: success

Breakfast: none
Lunch: pita bread with humus and yoghurt
Dinner: plate of chinese food: boiled rice, half a spring roll, crispy chilli beef

milliem

I usually have a pita bread or bagel, with hummus or cream cheese. Also often a yoghurt and/or piece of fruit. Not particularly exciting but easy to take into work and eat over lunchtime there! In winter it's usually soup and a roll. I am conscious of money, a reason I don't often have cold cuts wit...

milliem

Monday 18th April: Success Breakfast: none Lunch: wholemeal pita bread with lemon and coriander hummus Dinner: butter chicken and naan bread I was going to have 2 oranges with lunch but they turned out to be all dry and gross so I just had one pita bread - was really hungry by about 3pm!! Very unsat...

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