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MJ7910

was thinking about this some more and wanted to get some more insight on this. if i have a few coffees or teas throughout the day (my hope is to cut them down eventually but this is my only thing i can have between meals so it's hard for me right now)... but if i have them i put a tsp of creamer, su...

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nice job! you can get your streak going again!

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i think if you can get through the day and not use "i messed up" as a reason to overdo it further, that is awesome progress!

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i was reading one of your back entries about the cappucino. you know, maybe that wasn't as much of a failure as you though. Beverages are allowed, as long as we don't overdo it. It's all a gray line there, i think. For me, if i have a coffee, minimal creamer and maybe a small amt of artificial sweet...

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great job at not caving in the second time. that is hard for me too. it's like once i've done it, why not more. but i came up with a new system, a 1-10 scale. i outlined it a little in my daily post but you can personalize it... like a 10 is a great vanilla no S day! 1 is total failure, gluttony, fe...

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today ended up as a success - level 10! :) ran 4.2 miles! ate a rather large dinner knowing i would need a little bit of fuel to run. but didn't count calories. finished up the night with a nice white tea and no hunger. great feeling! planning a lighter workout tomorrow. maybe yoga or some light cir...

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the hardest thing for me is that the only way i lost weight before was using a calorie tracker. but what ended up happening is i wanted to rebel from it. then i gained the weight back. i find that if i am really motivated and want to lose weight fast i can do the calorie tracker thing. but as soon a...

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Realizing that for me it's more about all or nothing thinking... started to feel snacky but instead had a coffee with a tiny bit of creamer and a stevia. Sad to admit i've had a few coffees today. Not full fat mochas, but coffees, with a little sugar, stevia, milk, etc. Sure it's some calories but i...

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I would say keep at it. A week might not be enough to tell. I have gained about that much in a week before, even when I thought I was doing everything right. Sometimes it's sodium, etc. Just stick with it and keep doing the best you can!

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yes i agree that is the most important thing. maybe for a while i will eat a little more than i need to but maybe that's me making up for snacks and sweets! 3 meals today, i can do this!

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I understand how hard it is to get restarted. I have about 10 to lose and it keeps creeping back. i do wonder had i stayed on plan, would i be there? probably!

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2-4 Success Breakfast: Banana, protein bar, tea Lunch: Chicken with peanut sauce, greek yogurt, apple, fiber bar Dinner: Soup, small breakfast sandwich, 1 piece pizza I know this sounds like a lot but i don't think it actually was. Then I ended up wanting tea so i had tea with almond milk and a dash...

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i agree, i would like to lose the 10-13 but if not, then not. really what i want is to not feel bloated and yucky all the time, a result of overeating. i want to make overeating rare.

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a lot of us are recommitting! seems like a good thing to do this cold february!

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me too! started on 2-3 but 2-4 is my first Nday. I can't do the counting calories thing forever. it is unreasonable to think that if a computer isnt' handy that i've "ruined" my diet for the day... because that type of thinking is what leads to binges! this will work best because it's so simple. 3 m...

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me too... back after hiatus. i probably have 10-13 to lose. but i think this will be the most sustainable for me. i was a calorie accountant but it's starting to drive me crazy

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good for you for starting back and feeling good about it so soon! today is my first day back on NoS. I did it for a while but couldn't keep it up... I promised myself I'd make a real attempt for 21 days this time! We can do this! you have 3 days down!

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First N day. Didnt' anticipate how eating so much the last few days would give me this uncomfortable too much acid feeling in my stomach. like it just wants to digest something but there is a lot less food there! i have to make it to lunch, that is my next objective! just had a protein bar, banana, ...

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i think the hard thing is not getting lured in by calorie counting. i used my fitness pal for a while and i got so used to calorie counting. yet i know what gets me off track is the unplanned treat. as soon as i do that, i go over my "calories" so there is no reason to track calories if i stick to t...

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I like this idea of saying "yes i can have those things on an Sday but not now"... another thought I was having was maybe writing down specifically what you want and then when the Sday gets there go back through the list and read what you were craving earlier in the week, see if you still want it. H...

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i fully anticipate for the week i will do ok monday (due to eating a lot sunday) and tuesday (maybe some hunger) and then wednesday i will be hungry! thursday, friday same thing... so i probably should be advised to stay clear of the idea of intuitive eating during the week. but i think it could be ...

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so today turned out interesting. this morning just had a banana, protein bar and tea... went out to lunch with a friend . had an egg bake, croissant and chocolate dessert, later a few bites of brownies. had a few mocha coffees as well. time for dinner now (6:40 and i'm not hungry). the whole idea wa...

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I think the problem I really have is always wanting to feel overfull, it's some kind of comfort to me to be overfed. I don't understand why because the next day I feel bad. Then I get all the bloating and yuck feeling that hangs around until I have about 3 good days. Then I binge again and restart c...

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So even though I got back on here Jan 25, I had trouble committing to NoS because i was still using a calorie tracking system and still felt I needed my evening treat. I realize now that this holds me back because it makes me crave more treats/snacks. So I either have to do this NoS thing completely...

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Started over...just felt necessary to make a fresh start

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Been struggling to get started again, but I know it is the best thing for me. For a while I have tried to count calories online tracking systems, and I fail because I get obsessed with it. Once I go over I start eating mindlessly. So I start over today. Not too horrible today but I can't get over ea...

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i really like this idea you have about bondage to food. i think we do get in that state of mind. like i have my breakfast and it's pretty much the same thing every day. lunch is pretty similar. dinner i try to keep small. wonder sometimes if i let myself eat different stuff (that's not sweets) if i ...

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thanks for the encouragement oolala53. sounds like you have had some successful weight loss this past few months. i would love to have some weight loss happen again but i know i have to actually work hard at this and not just let whatever happen. today went ok, i did actually have a small treat with...

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Wow it's been quite a while but I'm ready to do this again. I know 3 meals a day is the answer. every time i try to go back to letting myself have "a little of this for a snack" i end up overdoing it, going way over what i wanted to eat and thrown off another day. so today is the first day and i'm n...

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I've had some good weeks now.. 7/19 to 7/28 have all been successful. i feel pretty good about this now.

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wow i have been away for a long time! 7/11 to 7/18 were mildly successful. there were times i wanted to binge but i managed to not do it. there were times taht i overate but none of them got into crazy proportions. so i consider that a success! taking oolala53's advice and just going with this for a...

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I totally Agree!! Feels great to not have that bloated feeling

7/10 - Success again. Bad habits tried to start but I stopped them

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sounds like you are doing great! congratulations on your successes this week

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7/6 - success
7/7 - s day and not a bad one
7/8 - good s day, not crazy
7/9 - not great but counting as a success because i saved it from turning into WTH effect.

so far not bad since 7/4. getting back into this. and haven't overeaten since june.

MJ7910 · 7/5/12 - Success today

7/5/12 - Success today

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update 6/30 lost my dog to cancer - total fail that day, obviously... but it was an S day so not sure if it was a total fail just felt like i was out of control. 7/1 another S day so i guess ok 7/2 fail 7/3 fail 7/4 (today) S day... because of independence day really want to start fresh tomorrow. i ...

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I will join. I was trying to get this going mid June but I seemed to mess up each and every time. Really want this time to be different. My goal, however is success if i stop WTH or a binge. I am not going to pay attention so much to getting No S completely right as I think I'm not ready for that ye...

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i agree. i may start using "stopped WTH" as a new habit cal and just use that for a while. sounds like a great idea. i need to work on stopping WTH the most. so maybe that is the first goal. like you, history of eating disorder problems. No S isn't really designed for us and i think we get WTH becau...

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i can relate to you. i am at a lower weight but have the binge problem. i am about 5'4" 130 but want to be just a little less. i think if i quit the binging problems i will be less, my weight will stop going up. funny how i ate more and weighed more and didn't have this binge problem and now that i ...

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ok so 6/29 is not off to a good start either. got to work and there are rice krispie treats and brownies. had 1 of each, and counted it as my breakfast along with a banana. so i messed up but i am willing to count it as "onlyonemessup" if i can get through the rest of the day successfully. trying my...

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me too because 6/28 was a total failure too! oh well. i 'm hoping tomorrow will be better. i have to make it that way.

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well it was going to be good today... and then chocolate struck again. wish i could just learn to control myself. well here's hoping 6/29 is better. i feel horribly full right now. i'm going to see how i feel and if i'm hungry i'll eat something for breakfast and if not i'll hold out for lunch. not ...

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yes, that is what i am doing too. the binges are what throw me off track and they are usually precipitated by eating chocolate

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You DO deserve better. If the "fail" happens, give it a "shoulder shrug" and move on. I've been doing pretty well lately. Not completely vanilla, though that works for most, but I'm allowing a sweet here and there and doing all I can to stay completely NEUTRAL. Just like, "well that was nice, movin...

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I am going to be working on a plan to limit thinking about food and body issues in the next week or so. It should be a nice adjunct to No S. i for one am very interested in doing this too. i have a vacation coming up and i want to put in some energy researching the local area, planning, etc. so i t...

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I think the "someone brought it so I have to eat it" idea is just disastrous! And it's also how people who don't want to diet trick other people into going off their food plans. It becomes group collusion to stay overweight! There is nothing wrong with saying no. If someone brought in some heroin, ...

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too bad... messed up again on 6/27... restarting this on 6/28... sometimes i wonder if keeping track can actually mess me up... who knows

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didn't make it yesterday 6-27

didn't have full out WTH syndrome but a little bit.

probably overdid it just a tad but not epically

so i count that as progress.

New day today and I plan to own it!

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i have been thinking a lot lately about how diets in general actually make a person think about food more. sometimes this is a good thing if the person really has no idea how much or when they are eating during the day. but i realized for people who obsess, it can be a very bad thing to be thinking ...

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Just so you know, MJ7910 I so know what you're alluding to on the "overly full" trigger point. The "just right" is tougher to nail, eh? Good luck and don't be fearful. Just empathetic with yourself. The less harsh you are, I swear the better. "You will feel gross with too much, and you deserve to n...

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i just started a few weeks ago, trying to get the hang of this. welcome back!

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for now i think i'm going to avoid it in an attempt to reduce it's power. it would be nice if i could moderate my consumption of it but it is very difficult for me. i am glad it works for some people though.

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Started this early! was going to do it last week but messed up pretty badly so started it Friday instead.

6/22

6/23 S day

6/24 S day

6/25

6/26

off to a streak of 5... would love to make it the 21 days this time

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Back from the trip. Hopefully I will have a chance tomorrow to see how everyone is doing but i'm really tired so going to talk about the last few days then hit the bed... trip really tired me out... but... I did great! Sunday 6/24 i know was an S day but i stayed under control and moderate Monday 6/...

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love this advice about the horses. it feels just like that. one slip up and the gate is open. all the horses want to run loose. but i can close the gate, i dont' have to let them out just because they want to be out. i will use this next time, thanks so much! the hardest part, i think for me, is i f...

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wow there is a lot of great advice here. i am glad you did well, liz, good for you! i had a few good days and it's all about NOT binging for me too! no matter what i eat, if i can stop myself, it can work. just walk away when you feel those binge thoughts coming on. i like the idea of the buffalo an...

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you are very inspiring. i would love to get to the point where i rarely overeat. it has felt so great today and yesterday to have not overeaten. i wish i could just remember how this feels in my body and mind so that way i don't overeat again. i have this feeling of being satisfied, and on an S day ...

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wow i have really been away for a while. i think my last check in was the 20th... i had 3 red days in a row. don't know what came over me... tuesday, weds, thursday all failures. Friday was successful - 6/22/12 Saturday was an S day today but I consider it a success because i didn't do anything too ...

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I am skipping this Saturday for sure as I know it will be higher. I figure if i'm going to weigh it is going to be after N days! So maybe i'll do it next saturday 6-30. sounds like a good goal.

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true. there are areas of my life that dont' apply to food or weight loss that are not like this at all.

food is my achilles heel.

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maybe make a streak of breaking WTH cycle, start counting that streak instead of doing a general habit cal? like if i do mess up today it still counts as a success if i get back on track after just one mess up. maybe just for a bit until you are able to control things again. if it's more than one me...

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there is nothing worse than the protruding binge tummy to remind myself of what i just did. that's what i have today. my pants are tight. they were loose a few months ago. i don't know why this isn't more motivation for me. i'm really really motivated to restrict my S days, i have to tell you all th...

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Good luck Amy! I hope everything turns out ok

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i have had a lot of WTH thinking lately and i realize what it is. it is because i have an all or nothing mentality to life. If i'm doing well i want to do really well. if i mess up, might as well royally screw up. this is why i have always had such a problem with moderation. i tend to do really grea...

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i also decided no weighing except every 2 weeks. and those times will be not before my period and not before ovulation. whenever i weigh myself during those times i am very unhappy. i think it leads to more binging. so i think i need to do it when my weight would theoretically be at the lowest which...

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I think back, and I'm not bagging on No-S at all, but pre-No-S and though my habits were not stellar, I'd eat a cookie at times, maybe 2, not freak out, but move on. Maybe I'd binge, maybe not. But it was LESS black and white. yes, it is THIS exactly for me. i mess up and the feelings of guilt. if ...

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why does it seem that when we make one slip it opens the floodgates and WTH feeling slips in? that is what i have been struggling with, and that is why i did that other color for just one mess up. but i think when i mess up i beat myself up so badly that i just want to "make myself pay" but i frame ...

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I think that is true, binge begets binge... one leads to another. feeling bad about oneself leads to more feeling bad about oneself. so i'm trying to dust myself off today. it's a new day. so i screwed up. so what. today is a new day to start over I've noticed that i tend to do so much better if i e...

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maybe that's what WTH effect is "Make yourself pay"

wow that is deep. because i just had a bad binge and sometimes i wonder if it's really that i am abusing myself for the one mess up. that i know i messed up and i want to somehow overdo it. interesting stuff there. really hits home.

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So what I am trying to do is stop WTH effect when I do fail but it hasn't been so easy. WTH is almost all consuming for me, literally - I consume all the food I can find. I do so well and with one slip up, WTH starts. "well you want this, just go ahead, you already messed up.".... "might as well hav...

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Well this is really end of June/July challenge but seeing that I messed up my June challenge I am going to make tomorrow a fresh start. Whoever wants to join me in trying to get 21 days in July feel free to post how you're doing. So my hope is successful N days and S days.

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Well I messed up today... :oops: Ruined my streak of green days. So time to analyze what happened. 6-19-12 - I get home with my daughter and I'm already annoyed because I know I am going to have to wait really late to eat dinner. I am starving and it's 4:45. So I decide that I will think about what ...

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yeah i know the feeling of early on S days. I don't feel like i'm planning a binge, but definitely planning on what treats i want.

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gosh i can relate. this tends to be how my binges are. i have one mistake and think WTH and then go crazy. i set up a habit cal for "only one mess up" hoping that if i got back on track i'd have green on those calendars if i messed up just once. and i think that will be effective for me once that ha...

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I am still at this! Want to get this right! Here is my trend so far: 6-12-12 - :mrgreen: 13 :mrgreen: 14 :mrgreen: 15 :mrgreen: 16 8) Overdid it 17 8) Overdid it but not as bad as Saturday! 18 :mrgreen: 19 :oops: Well I messed up, so much for my streak. seems i have never been able to make it a full...

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reading these posts remind me how mental this whole process is. it's like we want to make S days something beyond description, some wonderful fairy land of awesome food that make all the troubles go away. i think the problem is for myself that sets way too high an expectation on food and food is jus...

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But I would like to eat sugar by choice. Not because "it's there", not because "it will make me feel better and forget all the bad things that happened today", not because "it's Saturday and I can". I want to eat treats for the right reason: pleasure, and nothing else. I'm wondering if I should ski...

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wow you're right, a one month long bender can undo a lot of work. when i used to binge more, it was usually for about 2 to 3 days at a time. that would totally offset my whole week and i'd have to work hard to get back on track. i was gaining weight gradually because i was beating myself up over ind...

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6-18-12 ended up being successful but i struggled the entire day! kept wanting to snack constantly. but today is feeling the same way already (6-19) and my husband wants to grill hamburgers tonight but he doesn't get home until really late so i'm a little concerned i will want to eat dinner before t...

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6-16 and 6-17 were a bit crazy but they were S days so oh well... 6-18... having a hard time today. had lunch after i went to the zoo with my daughter and now i'm sitting here while she naps and i just want to snack and snack and snack. i think part of it is that i had a fast food-ish lunch (but was...

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Very true. Really this is just food, how could it live up to our expectations of it? It doesn't save the world. It just gives us momentary, fleeting, joy. We should enjoy our treats but realize they aren't anymore lasting than a few moments.

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that is awesome that you have reached the point where you can do treats with moderation. i am a work in progress and hope to be there soon. but for right now trying to get the structure of this down. i had a bit of a wild s day today but i just started this june 7 so hoping i will have it down soon....

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Ok so an S day today and I got through it feeling a little overfull but not terribly so. I had a few indulgences but ended up doing ok. I don't want to be hard on myself because this is my first time trying this. As soon as I start to think "I wonder how many calories that brownie was" I'm going to ...

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i like that idea of baking my own stuff but i think i would run into the problem of eating too much of it, especially if it was still hanging around on N days. Like if i baked a cake i'd probably eat it all or there woudl be some still there monday and then guess what? so i'm still working on that. ...

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can relate to this one! i love the feeling of not being bloated which is how i feel after a binge. i need to try very hard to not feel overfull because it feels great to eat just the right amount

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I would consider it a success if you can stop yourself. That is what I have trouble with. I have a habitcal tracker for "onemessuponly" meaning if i mess up once but i'm able to get back on track it can be green for that calendar. that way even if i have to put a red on my main tracking, i can put a...

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I hope you have a great day today. Pizza is one of those things that i love, but i've actually done ok with now. the only one that still gets me is sugar and chocolate. i seem to have the hardest time moderating those. it's like one taste and it's all downhill. but i'm learning slowly. anyway hope y...

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i think i will just go there, get what i want, eat until i am satisfied and really practice enjoying what i'm eating, not just scarfing it down because it's an S day. really take my time. notice when i'm full. i think that's a good start! and above all else don't worry about "well i'm not getting en...

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Thanks Amy! I will make today awesome! I went ahead and precolored my calendar with green today, hoping that will motivate me. Because then Saturday and Sunday are exempt, meaning I made it today! So I prefilled those yellow. I really don't want to break my streak so I'm going to do this today!! I c...

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well we have a work function tonight/happy hour and I'm hoping I can make it through dinner without snacking on extra appetizers. **edit, i did it!! counting today as a Success because even though i had one thing (bruchetta bread with topping) besides my meal (which was a salmon salad with no dressi...

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ok so here is my dilemma. i am going to cheesecake factory for sunday brunch and i want to eat well but not pig out. i looked at their menu and it's overwhelming. i dont' want to try to overplan S days but I want to have a little bit of restraint and just wanted some guidance.

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i plan on extending into july... anytime is better than worrying about whether i get it all in june or not. i messed up monday so i'd only have about 19 days on june 30. going to try to make it til july 2.

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yes i know what you mean about hyping up Sdays. I am trying to not do that but now that i have had 2 successes in a row during my first week of doing this i feel like i am really building up to that. but i want to have good s days and some thing i like, just not overdo it . it's a fine line. i don't...

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i am not sure what she would mean by that except that you didn't eat all your food. maybe she is one of those people that was raised to believe we all need to be members of the clean plate club. that is a club i don't wish to belong to anymore because it does end up making me overeat. so i think eve...

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so glad it turned out green! good luck today, you will do great

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Thanks! hoping i can mark today as another success. Will let you know after dinner! I saw a horrible number on the scale today but I'm not letting it get me down anymore. I agree that if I do this, like Reinhard said, I will settle at my perfect weight. I know that is why I failed Monday. It at leas...

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yeah i am thinking like 1 or 2 things that i have really wanted. the problem is that it is so hard for me to think of what i really want! i guess i need to work on that. my goal is to not let S days turn into a free for all and really just focus on what i want to reward myself for a good week.

MJ7910 · my 21 days starts today 6-12-12 first day success

my 21 days starts today

6-12-12 first day success

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What type of things do you normally do differently on S days? the reason i ask is i am just starting out and i have been in the diet mentality for so long that i don't even know what to treat myself with anymore without going into extreme gluttony and excess. i just started on 6-7-12 and although my...

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