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congrats, blueangel!

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Actually, by not giving in to the urge to eat, which is chemically induced, it will decrease the stimulus-response reaction and the food will have that effect less and less each time you have it. Not that I'm recommending that. Overeating reinforces the connection; moderate eating extinguishes it. U...

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I'm high school teacher and I have seen the fallout of parents not enforcing No. Students will come to me with a million excuses why they shouldn't have to follow my directions or meet deadlines. Students who start crying because I'm going to report that they plagiarize or whatever other infractions...

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Wow. The report of the meals in Guatemala was a great reminder. I traveled in India, Sri Lanka, and Nepal back in the late 70's. I saw poverty, but never really knew how the local people were eating at home. Even when I was hiking in the Himalayas and staying at family-run lodging for 25 cents a nig...

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I like to read supportive lit while I'm adopting new habits so I was looking for something as a companion to No S. The Denim Diet came highly recommended as a non-calorie-counting traditional plan. Yeah, there was no 2-week plan of meals presented, but it was mostly about eating from a list of appro...

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Funny. A few years ago I read a book about French style and how to use it to get slim. The author said one of the reasons the French don't snack or overeat was just "comme il faut," which I think means "how it's done." That or its opposite has popped into my mind so many times over these last 10 wee...

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Good golly, I don't think I could have done this if I had had to cut sweets AND bread. Costco (you got that back East?) sells a whole wheat bread the thought of which at dinner has kept me from pigging out on chocolate more than once.

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yeah, baby! I know wht you mean. I'm just full after dinner! I wouldn't enjoy anything I ate then, but I'm not so habit-driven that I want to think about it too much right now...

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Thanks for the info about scrolling horizontally. I'd say those pics continue to be good selling points. Rock on, Reinhard!

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3/13-14 weekend. Mon and Tues, 3/15 and 3/16, success. Wed. and Thurs. 3/17 and 3/18 success Friday declaared S day. Last day of school before spring break. I've been toying with the idea of making Fridays an S day and giving up Sunday. In any case, I decided I wanted to celebrate. This is the first...

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One thing at a time. I did used to have a diet Coke or two a day. I slowly weaned myself off them. I'm not religious about not having fake sweeteners, or even Coke, but I don't plan on using them all the time. I do use stevia in coffee. I'm glad I finally stopped with the Coke, as I've read that it ...

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I've taught myself never to allow myself to believe any negative thoughts when I'm too full and too tired. I hope you can try to relax and be peaceful with the moment for a bit. You deserve it. I'm sure you're aware that if you've been through chemo, you owe it to yourself to eat well and let your b...

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I'm missing out! My link takes me to pics, but they stop at 2005. Anyway, glad to know you're still at it. When I talk to people about No S, I tell them the founder's been living this way since 2001. It gives me the confidence to "sell" it before I'm a before and during example that anyone would pay...

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Good luck here. Don't know what you "should" be eating, but I think you'll figure it out. No matter what, get to the next meal hungry!

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Wow! You mean it worked? The real credit goes to you for gleaning what you needed and applying it. Great job!

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As I ease towards my 60's and experience the problems of not finding the right word to say quickly when teaching my Advanced Placement English students, hearing of the cognitive benefits of regular exercise is another nudge to get me into it.

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hey, I'm noticing the Danish! I'm lurking because I haven't been willing to commit. Now that Daylight Savings time is starting in the U.S., I may get inspired. However, I'm even more desirous of getting inspired to do Shovelglove or an equivalent. But good luck to all!

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3/11 success. Almost declared an S day yesterday. Was going to go to an early St. Pat's party after work, but had an appt. at 5:30 and I left work too late. Just as well.

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keep up with us, Kit!

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I know another one I feel a bit resentful of. The whole Jorge Cruise series. Eating every three hours, etc. Of course, he has his success stories, as do most. But when you look at his program, it's basically just low calories. But it's every day of the week. And the shlock about having a mini-bag of...

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Forgot to add I've got on a pair of pants that two weeks ago I couldn't sit down in. They're still not comfortable enough to wear out, but I bet they will be two weeks from now. And I won't care what I weigh, if they fit.

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Glad to hear you say that about thinking the freedom is worth more than the scale report. Let's all give this some time! A few weeks is no time to judge because the changes have more to do with decreasing appetite over a period of time. Reinhard talks about hundreds of meals, not twenty. And chemica...

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yay! I wish I could direct this to some of my teammates on a Living Binge Free site. They are convinced that eating often keeps them from bingeing, but I hear them all the time saying how they ate too much here and there, for meals and snacks AND still binge, as I did. I sometimes just report my exp...

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sounds like my S day breakfast today, without the marshmallow or crackers and with almond butter and peanut butter. Hey, it's only my 10th Saturday! But I felt like a Girl Scout eating my mess. Innocent, a bit naughty, and no desire to stuff myself.

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One more thing, nattygirl. Did you authentically have weight to lose when you started here? If you were sticking to 1,000 calories a day, you must have lost weight. I don't know if No S will get you into the low BMI zones. My theory is if you have to starve to get there, you ain't meant to be there....

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Sometimes, good things can sneak up on you even though you aren't counting...congrats!

I completed my 3rd round of 21-days streaks yesterday.

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As miraculaous as it seems, it actually sounds plausible that I could someday be sitting right by candy and not eat it. In the past few weeks, I have had ice cream in my freezer and chocolate in the cabinets, but have not eaten any during the week. I still don't quite understand why I can stick to t...

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Actually, that is basically what the Intelligent Dietary Defaults thread is all about: the meals or patterns of eating that people fall back on as a rule. It sounds like most people eventually get to the point where they are eating plates like the dinners I grew up on: some meat, some starch, some v...

oolala53 · 3/6 and 3/7 S-days 3/8-3/10 success

3/6 and 3/7 S-days
3/8-3/10 success

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Yahoo, mrsj! I'll be joining you in a few hours. It's only 4 p.m. here on the West coast. The odds are good I'll make it.

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This is all great to hear. I've had some S-days similar to these, but I'm still a bit like a kid in a candy store, although I do allow more breaks between eating than I used to. I was hoping this was temporary and it sounds like it most likely will be. The amazing thing is I can now buy sweets durin...

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This may be against the principle of "eat whatever you want on S days--therefore, it's not something to be too concerned with", but I (and I'm sure many people) would be grateful to hear about what S days look like for people who've been No S-ing for 6 months or more. Do you tend to snack just becau...

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I've told this to other people and have to try at times to remember it myself when I'm feeling discouraged or disappointed, mostly in myself, or what life deals me. If you find that this is too hard to do, perhaps it isn't important enough to do. So what? We are not criminals. Concentrate in life on...

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Another diet/anti-binge evil is sugar. I'm on a board on which some members often say, "I can't eat sugar/chocolate/gummi bears/you-name-it without eating the whole bag." I used to say that and think it. Now I know it's not a matter of "can't." Most of them are trying to eat 5-6 meals a day and are ...

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Kathleen, thanks for that post. It was just what I needed to hear. Even though I'm always telling people one of the biggest mistakes wanna be weight-losers make is wanting to be thin and have it all figured out in a few weeks or months, I was finding myself starting to wonder if I should be trying t...

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The funny thing is when I used to "diet" and then reach a day that was supposed to be a day I could eat anything, I never wanted to go back to the diet and I would keep pigging out day after day. Now, I don't feel resistance to Mondays. Not sure why, but I'm not complaining. Just get to the next mea...

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That is a hard one. I'm not sure a person can machinate being ready to do this. I've sent you a personal message because I went on for so long, but I hope you find your mojo soon. I will say briefly that the most potent motivation may just be the belief that all the other options are too untenable. ...

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Each weekend is considered S-days. You can snack and eat sweets. People who use the Habitcal color those days yellow. It just means you can't eat like that forever and, on the other hand, they are allowed, so you are not breaking any rules. The recommendation includes allowing two S-days that are no...

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People here talk a lot about eating the way they did when they grew up, but I think they eat even better quality food than I did. I know I do now.

This is getting more fun as time goes on.

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If your intention is just to try to get over food and diet obsession, I think this is your best bet. I'm 56, and this is the most reasonable plan I've seen. It's a wonderful combination of structure and freedom. The fact that you're thinking in terms of following the plan for the rest of the year pu...

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How're you doing, southergal? Have you found that just not doing it has lessened the urge? I forced myself years ago to notice if I was hungry when I went to the movies. I never was because I had almost always had a meal before I went. I never feel a tug to eat at the movies and feel for people who ...

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I'm going to recommend giving it two 21-day streaks to judge. I fell off several times over a year after a 21-day streak. Also, I believe it takes longer than 3 weekends to get over worrying about the abandon. I've definitely gone up after every weekend, but my overall weight is down and my pants ar...

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I don't know how you guys do that highlight thing. All the formatting buttons dont work for me. "I'm afraid No S isn't more popular simply because it's not exciting enough. That Five Bite Diet guy promises you'll lose something like thirty pounds in just three or four weeks by eating Snickers bars, ...

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Finished round 3 tonight.

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Southerngal, IMHO it's a little early to be measuring No S by how much weight you've lost. This is about a reasonable way to live long-term, right? Now, I say that, and it is my intention, but I might be disappointed if I plateau for the next 5 months. I don't think I will, but it's a possibility. H...

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I don't mean to criticize the field of therapy regarding eating disorders, specifically compulsive eaters, especially since I think I learned a lot about the difference between true hunger and just the desire to eat, but in the end, I think I got diverted for a long time believing that I had to some...

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If it makes you feel any better, I think Reinhard lost 20 lbs. the first two months. Now we know some of that was water, but if you want to do the math, that's a lot of calories NOT eaten. Or burned, however you want to look at it.

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Monday, 3/1. Success Tues. 3/2 Funny stuff. I had my teeth cleaned after work, but had to do back so I stopped at a Mexican food joint. I got a plate; it was so loaded with dense food! It was too much of what I didn't want and not enough of what I did. Luckily, back at work I had a serving of high f...

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I'm impressed with how easy it is to go back to N-days. It used to be when I had sweets, I would want to keep eating them day after day. Now when I wake up on Mondays, I'm rarely hungry for anything, never mind sweets. I go ahead and make a little breakfast to bring to work with me, but if I'm not v...

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German schools don't have a lunch break? If you have to, it's okay to study and eat during lunch time.

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I think it's just the relaxation of rules I need.

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This year because of a hellish work schedule, I often buy a roasted chicken (Costco) and/or roasted turkey breast (Ralphs)-things I used to cook myself-- and use them for days of meals with home-cooked grain, + vegetables fresh and frozen, and a piece of fruit. I also keep commercial sauces around. ...

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Oh, I forgot. I took a macrobiotic cooking class once that used delicious recipes, but the cookbook Basic Macrobiotic Cooking had a lot of the necessary info, especially on cooking whole grains, which most of us never saw cooked growing up. Even my grandparents used Uncle Ben's. I still prefer cooke...

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I didn't pay much attention to the recommended daily calorie counts in [u]The Omega Plan[/u] (don't know why my program won't incorporate the text editing features), but its emphasis on delicious fats and fresh food has made a pretty big impact on my meal makeup. Paradoxically, with its French empha...

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Since the 16th, all my weekdays have been green. Finished 56 days of success yesterday, counting S-days.

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I have not been slim since I was 9 years old, but there is one thing I have always refused to give in to and that is hiding at the beach. My legs have always looked like a before ad for cellulite creams, but what can I say? I know I am more than my body and I deserve respect whether I fit some image...

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Congrats! Don't worry about thinking you've got it down after 21 days. I think that's the LEAST amount of time needed. I definitely got to 21 days more than once in the first 14 months of trying No S, but never twice in a row before. For myself, I think one of my mistakes was being in a rush to thin...

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This isn't a diet book, but there are diet books that have recommended it as a guideline. http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2009/oct/28/plating-method-good-way-lose-weight/ It's probably too limited for some No S-ers to start with, but it's my guideline for lunch and dinner, with a piece of fruit tucked ...

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Woops, I didn't mean to get in the middle of this. Given how I didn't think I could stick to 3 meals a day, and now I have for so many days, who knows how low we can go? But, there is certainly a lot of evidence that people who eat a restricted diet end up going back to their old habits or even wors...

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I am completeing 8 weeks today. Are you saying we should start a March challenge after the weekend? If I keep this up, I will post on the 21-day thread next week, too.

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Here is an NPR story about a brain-based reason why it's hard to make the right choice in the moment

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... 1981&ps=rs

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I'm sending you a private message so that I don't write The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich here, but I will say briefly that it's probably better just to accept that habits are often changed gradually and that the pendulum swing is an apt metaphor. You are not a criminal. Just focus on getting the...

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Cassie, almost everybody here (except Reinhard) has been there, meaning lost and gained, though not necessarily on No S. I'm not sure you're ready to hear this, but I want to ask you to give up the idea of weight loss for awhile and just concentrate on an attitude of moderation toward food for the l...

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From what I've seen of Leslie Sansone, I like her, too. She seems pretty down-to-earth.

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I don't know what your meals are like, but I found that adding just two teaspoons of oil to my lunch, if I already wasn't having cheese or a less lean meat, made a big difference in the afternoon. What about having a whole glass of milk in addition to your coffee midway between meals? And I have fou...

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It's not a long rant! This one will be. No S is not about being very thin, or training to be an athlete, or anything like that. In a paradoxical way way, it's not even about losing weight. It is about abstaining from people's most offensive eating habits, learning to respond to hunger with discrete ...

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Also, just because you pulverize solid foods into drinkable form doesn't make them a beverage in the true sense of the word. The main content should be water, as milk and fruit juices mostly are. And water. If you do your cardio in the morning (just to feel good) and have your smoothie as a meal, yo...

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What's the book?

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As has been said before, No S is for the long run, not for quick weight loss, although some people might lose soon and quickly. It may depend on what your issues were. I think I have done quite well because my big issue was bingeing on sweets when I was NOT hungry. The longer I could wait to eat, th...

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I thought it might be fun to have a thread where we could 1) rant about any other system we've tried or run across or 2) feel sorry for people who resort to tactics we know must be or will be painful in the long run. This was prompted by browsing Sparkpeople.com where I am a member (and on a pretty ...

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I posted this in another wanna-be thread, so sorry if you see it again. Today marks 7 weeks of No S-ing and I'm feeling good. 'Course I've stuck to other plans that had me thinking I could do it forever and I was never gonna go back to my old ways before. But it's been awhile, so I'm going to enjoy ...

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Today will complete 7 straight weeks of No S ing. Maybe it's still the honeymoon. I'll take it.

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Had a 4-day weekend for Presidents' Day. I used only SAt/Sun as S-days. I haven't felt the need to add any extra S days as allowed. I still feel Christmas!
Monday and Tuesday 2/15 and 2/16 success

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Here's a link of a report about working out after a 20-hour (no eating from dinner to dinner)fast http://www.ttfatloss.com/fat-loss/fasting-for-fat-loss/ and from Brad Pilon who literally wrote the book on short-term fasting BradPilon.com Nov. 6, 2008 "Did you know that it takes 30 to 60 minutes of ...

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A token for a bracelet. Good idea! and congrats, too.

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Working on round 3 of 21-day club. Funny stuff today. Went to a coffee shop to try to work and have lunch. Kept getting kicked off Internet, so I left after I got my sandwich. Very hungry and ate half in the car. Ended up coming back home. Didn't want to finish sandwich but got out some raw veggies....

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BrightAngel, you have had an amazing journey and admirable success. You are definitely in the healthy range for your height. I just experimented with your height, weight, and my age on the Halls site. I'd be slimmer than 90% of my peers at your stats. Holy Toledo. I'm just trying to get to the 28%il...

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I know this is getting technical, but do you know what your bodyfat% is? I just checked your BMI and you are in the normal range, so it is going to be harder to fight your way down, esp. if you are a mesomorph and naturally have more muscle. Check out this site. http://www.halls.md/body-mass-index/b...

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I went to a pancake breakfast fundraiser yesterday and then nibbled on chocolate and such a lot of the day. It is now 9:07 a.m. PST, and I am not one bit hungry for breakfast yet. I'll wait until I am to eat. That's the way Mondays after indulgence are getting to be. I hope I remember that next Sund...

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I agree with what the reason is. I'm a teacher and our mealtimes are notoriously short. If I confer with a student, call a parent, or answer even one email, I may likely not get to finish my lunch, which is always a reasonable amount. Even if I forget my lunch and have to go to the cafeteria, it cut...

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Wed. and Thurs. were successes.

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Just finished round 2 yesterday.

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I also saw an article reporting a study on what cues Americans used to stop eating vs. French participants. The French were more likely to stop because they felt full. (Duh?) Americans used external cues, such as eating during a TV program and stopping only when it was over. It's long been known tha...

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Remember, too, that you can drink milk. I'm finding that it makes a big difference for long hauls. It takes awhile to kick in but 8 oz. of 2% or higher fat can tide me over an hour or two. I often make a cafe au lait, heavy on the lait, sometimes with 2 t. cocoa powder and a smidgeon of stevia. Esp....

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Thanks for bumping this up. When people talk about not eating dairy or not eating late at night, I always think, but the French eat more dairy than the people of any of the Mediterranean countries, and they eat late, etc. I'm pretty sure Julia was influenced by their habits then, as well as by her o...

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only three tries? You're doing well. Congrats!

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success

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Me, too! Here is the text: Hello Maggi, Iâ€™m Malia, Michael Pollan's assistant.Thanks for your email and your feedback on the mention of the "No S Diet" in Michaelâ€™s new book Food Rules. Michael heard of the "No S Diet" from a reader, who did not mention Reinhard Engelsâ€™s book. Michael chose to...

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I wish I had discovered No S back in the '70's when I was in college. However, I don't know if I would have believed it then or had the discipline to do it, but it sure would have spared me a lot of suffering. I'm finally thinking in terms of sticking to this for a year as a way to keep me involved....

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success Wasn't even hungry for breakfast. I thought I might get hungry, so I brought a piece of bread and peanut butter. I just had coffee with milk all morning and I ended up eating half of "breakfast" with my lunch. Maybe that was funny stuff? I was actually wishing I'd brought something a little ...

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Actually, I was thinking it didn't sound like a lot. Besides, you're the one that has to make the decision about what is enough, and it changes. I had one Sunday on which I hardly ate anything despite the fact it was an S day. I just felt full most of the day and didn't want to force anymore in. Oth...

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Welcome, Elspeth! I'm working on round 2, which will be completed this Thursday. I'm thinking of my next major benchmark as Mar. 20, the first day of spring. I think it will make even more sense then to stick with it as part of being the new me. Hope you'll be there.

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2/6 and 2/7 S days
Sunday had a quite a gap without eating. Almost skipped dinner, but had cooked some rye berries so I ate some with Parmesan. got my lunch packed for tomorrow.

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thurs. 2/4 success Fri. 2/5 success. funny stuff: I invited a friend over for dinner and didn't want to try to balance my bread and dessert banana on the lip of my shallow soup bowl, so I virtual plated it. I'm sure it was the same amount as I have had on other nights when I put a deep soup bowl and...

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This is further inspiring me, as I have been No S-ing officially since Jan. 1 and the scale is fluctuating downward. I want to keep going not only because this is restoring my sanity but on the off chance that Reinhard will need some low-range weight loss success stories to appear with him on Oprah.

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Dang, that was pretty fast! Actually, wouldn't the two of you make an interesting pair: Michael, the food guru, and Reinhard, the habit guru. I've seen your/Reinhard's picture and I've heard some podcasts. I think you/he would make good TV. Especially if you were able to keep the nice mix of being k...

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