Everyday Systems

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okay, made it through my first three weeks of N days. Ready for three N days before Turkey day. Feeling pretty darn full on my second S day of the weekend. I'm definitely ending the sweets now.

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One man's ceiling is another man's floor. I've convinced myself that a goal of 25% bodyfat at age 55 probably has to be good enough. i've been lower in my adult life but it was a strain. given that, I'm drooling over your 19% and wishing you wouldn't aim for less since that makes us 25%-ers look, as...

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It's Friday and I'm about to finish my first 3 consecutive weeks of 5 N days a week! Ah, so worth it! I haven't used any special days, either. With the way the holiday falls, I'm not sure I'll need them. I like the idea of letting them go for now because the holiday is so close to the end of the mon...

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Awesome! Just the right touch of insight and zing!

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Pretty much permagrazed chocolate and pizza morning and lunch time on Sat. Can't remember dinner. Better Sunday. I was in a market for bagels and there were donuts and Hostess snack cakes on sale. I didn't even want them. I'm not freaked, though. I'm confident that this behavior will spiral and decr...

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KCCC, You are so right about the fine points of what constitutes a binge (although I'm not sure, say, one inhaled bag of M & M's would rate that). It proves again the power of the overeating habit, since it isn't as if any of us are deprived on this program. Certainly, too-strict of limitations on c...

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Several mornings a week I have 1/2- 1 cup Fiber One with 2% milk, two egg whites, walnuts or pecans or flax meal and coffee with 1/2c. milk, 2 teaspoons cocoa powder and stevia. Maybe a fruit. If not that starch, then whole wheat toast. In winter, I'll probably have oatmeal more. If I'm very hungry,...

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As it has been said before, it's common for people to have to go at this a few times before it sticks. So, the "off" time is actually part of it. I've been on a roll but who know what will happen later? I do think I'll be able to keep coming back around because it isn't like going back on a diet. Ev...

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I think it's amazing to call three cookies and three slices of pumpkin bread an all-out binge. But, no matter what you call it, congrats on moving on and responding later only to your hunger.

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Another 5-day streak. I wouldn't have believed it a month ago. I even have a package of Dove milk chocolate pieces and a semi-sweet bar with raspberry flavoring sitting in a cupboard. I feel satisfied and fine. I can definitely wait until tomorrow.

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done.

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I was very hungry for dinner earlier than I wanted to be. I just ate a little earlier and ate a denser dinner than I usually do, so I'm pretty full, but that's all part of it. Done for the day.

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In your case, jessdr, make the platform from croutons or oyster crackers... There are other teams competing in this, though: one from Scripps, here in San Diego, where I am, and another from Woods Hole. One caveat: the winner stays fat. But, I digress. I probably shouldn't be "weighing in" (I can't ...

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just recorded a green day on habitcal

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Good one, veggirl! I love the sense of humor on this site. But regarding your teetering early plates of food, it was more your lack of engineering training, and thank God you were not more clever, neh? I'd hate to see what some students at MIT could heap their plates with--oh, the marshmallow cathed...

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So, does this mean a sandwich is vertical stacking? I hope not.

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Hi, jaob! Another system I used asked participants to classify foods as teasers or pleasers. Only each individual knows what will tease him/her into going overboard. The bad news is some of those foods may never change categories but the good news is 1) a lot of them will and 2) new strength will he...

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Good observations, JerryLee and Me Too. I'd been packing lunches long before no S-ing and have often gloated over the comparatively high quality of those meals over what is available for more money. I have three plastic containers that are each divided into three compartments so I can keep the yogur...

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Yesterday a friend took me to dinner at a Greek buffet. I forgot about the one plate rule and did not load my plate up at all, as I usually take small amounts first and then get a bit more of only the best to finish off in such situations. Lots of white space on my plate at first. I checked in with ...

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Ya-ha, got through my first 5-day streak. Saturday was a bit of overkill, but there are no failures on free eating day! Sunday was very nice, although I found myself frowning at myself for some late night eating. It's all good. Today is going fine, so far. I've got today and tomorrow off from work. ...

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I love the sound of the sense of peace you have about eating now. I wonder if you browsed the boards, even if you didn't post. I'm doubly impressed if you did this just by reading the book. Keep up the good work; I know it sounds corny, but I believe the world needs us! Or, at least the developed wo...

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I think it's amazing that you lost any weight at all. You must have a delicate frame, because I am 5'6,'' and I would be happy to get to 66 kg. I haven't weighed 55 kg since I was in the 8th grade 42 years ago! Oh, well, everyone is different. I know that eating issues can be distressing no matter h...

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I've had meetings late two days this week. The witching hours passed. I went home and ate dinner. Yay! Gee, I didn't think that the answer was working more....

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Made it through Thursday. Can it be I'm going to have a 5-day streak! I think so!

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Three N days in a row; two more to go this week.

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Oh, if only falling madly in love were something we could plan!

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I had a few good days and then not, but I, too, am back in the groove. Even two N days in a row can make me feel that I am in the groove. I wish I didn't have to be in the groove, though. I need to be able to get past the times when it's hard to stay on track, but i do it anyway. Usually, I'll just ...

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The witching hour came early today. I was the fourth person in line to vote this morning, and I was so excited afterward that when my eye fell on the empty package of Halloween marshmallow candy in the back seat of my car, I had the urge to get something sweet to celebrate. I ended up going a rounda...

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Thanks, KCCC. I pack my lunch and it amounts to a plate, but I have it in compartments so the yogurt doesn't mix with something it shoudn't, etc. So, no, I don't eat more. It's all I have. I used to always plan it so that I did have a snack (veggies and a little cheese or nuts, maybe half a tortilla...

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Perhaps I'm repeating myself or others but here goes. After 10 years of looking at diet stuff (and that was 15 years ago) I came to the conclusion that one of the biggest problems with diets was that they aimed at having people eat just about the least that they could stand in order to lose weight. ...

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Yes, the nights can be rough. What is it that can suddenly make it seem that it makes sense to eat something not long after you've finished a very satisfying meal? There are many thoughts: "That would taste good." "Oh, it won't matter." "Why shouldn't I be able to eat, if I want to?" Or imaginings: ...

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Once again, I could not eat my lunch during lunch time, and was behind the 8 ball afterwards as well, so I ended up eating it in stages throughout the afternoon. It seemed better than shoveling it in, but I was also afraid not to eat it and get too hungry, because I'm actually still here at work (6 ...

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Thanks, LA loser! I can get some more failures under my belt, no problem! Some of them are already there, but more are in my thighs...ha!

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Snacking on Tuesday night sent me on a bender. I hope I can get back on track tomorrow. I've thought I was going to be able to other days this week and I didn't. What's that saying? Your behavior in the past doesn't have to be an indicator of your behavior in the future. As with stocks! I need to dr...

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I called Thursday and Friday exempt days. Friday I had a party to go to, but I ate crap all day long. I know it's theoretically okay but my idea of sanity in eating is just eating normally during the day and having sweets and seconds at the party. Wed. was just an out-and-out failure. I thought of t...

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First, I read something last night about another habit that rings true for the attmept to change any habit: until the reasons for not doing it are greater in number or importance than the reasons for doing it, you will not be able to change that habit. As blueskighs said, you probably have to be des...

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I fell off the wagon last night, and didn't even see it coming. Oh, well. It didn't feel like a tragedy. I hope I'm not kidding myself that I feel I am really moving toward complete compliance.

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Thanks for dropping by! I think I'm on the honeymoon, but I'll take it. No one would stay married if h/she didn't have a few memories of bliss to fall back on, right? or the experience of a few bad dates/relationships that showed what a better deal present company is? I'll just store this up for the...

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One of the strategies in Judith Beck's book The Beck Diet Solution is to make a list of all the reasons you'd like to lose weight. I changed it to include why I want to make peace with eating. I'd like to be slimmer, and I probably will lose weight, but I doubt I'll get thin. After all I've tried ov...

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I had to split my lunch (got caught up with work crises and only had a few minutes before I had to teach). Ate dinner later. No snacking. Did have a cup of coffee at the tail end of breakfast that carried into my first class. Beverage! No worries.

success

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I had problems come up at lunch time today, so I got only a few bites in before it was time to start class, which was over in an hour, at 2:15. I finished my food then. I'm not going to count that as a failure. In a similar situation in the future, I may elect to drink something during lunch time to...

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Since you can't do anything wrong, S days are success days. What a relief! I also went to my dance class and sweated up a storm--Fun!

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What's this? I had thought for days about how I was not going to feel fenced in by limits on my food choices and was sure I'd be looking for a chocolate croissant or something after my moderate egg and toast breakfast, but I not only wasn't hungry, I didn't WANT anything else, either. Doesn't mean I...

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A couple more that speak to me: also from nutritionist Bernard Jensen-- Eat when you have the keenest desire for the plainest food. I don't think it means you have to eat plain food, but that you shouldn't be fooled by taste INSTEAD of hunger. from Henry James on the art of writing, but seems to app...

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So, has anyone else started an S-day with semi-sweet chocolate?

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Thanks for your message of strength. Hell, it ain't war or gettin' shot at, is it? We can do this! oooo, I crumbled a few Tostitos Salsa Verde chips into one of my lunch salads this week--awesome! and Viva la Friday nights! Also, the phrase "last best hope" has been used in the titles of several boo...

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Like others want to hit the bars after work on Friday, I felt a tug today towards the discount grocery with their ridiculously good and reasonably priced ice cream and cookies. Happy hour! But I didn't do it. Just gotta wait til tomorrow. Green squares! I had three success days in a row. My, how far...

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I hadn't read many other check ins, but it looks like we are supposed to be posting our meals here, too. Breakfast: fiber one, grapes, milk, walnuts, coffee with milk, sugar, cocoa powder Lunch: bison burger, rye berries, yellow pepper, pea pods, spring mix, black berries, plain yogurt, pecans Dinne...

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Today, for some miraculous reason, I didn't feel much desire to eat after work, when I usually want to. Then I had an appointment at 5 with a kitchen remodeler. I always get flustered with those people; I want info, they want a sale, which is fair, but still flustering. By the time I was done, I was...

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Since my humor didn't make it before, I don't know why I took a risk with my last line in my last post; I really think this is a great board, and I don't want to alienate anyone. I'm grateful anyone is grappling with these issues and willing to share about it. I even hope to be of aid to others, if ...

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Thanks for the suggestions, all. I was trying to be a little comical; I guess I'd better keep my day job and not strike out on the stand-up circuit very soon! I actually have many pursuits that have been and/or continue to be compelling for me: I've been doing West African dance for 13 years, I have...

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I wonder what happens on Easy Street...

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Had a rough time late afternoon; already posted about it on main discussion board. Finishing up dinner and feeling strong. Just two more late afternoon/evening danger time zones until S days. I feel James Brown good.

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Thanks, blueskighs! I decided to visit a temple of consumerism; I ended up at Target. I parked in the shade so I had to walk much farther; by the time I walked, shopped, and walked, I had used up enough time so that I could stop and get something for dinner on the way home. Made it! I'm home free no...

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Uuh-o-o-oh, it's the witching hours. Just after school has let out for the day, the air conditioning broke again so I was teaching in the heat, students letting days go by without asking the simplest questions so I don't even know they are stuck back at the beginning...anyway, it's too hot to exerci...

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Oh, my, I guess I have to do this. I've been trying to get going for almost two weeks now, but I've been sputtering out in the afternoons. Today a student came by with a little cup of ice cream from his birthday party and that is all it took. However, as I've said in another post, I am doing so much...

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Just wanted to say hi, because I am getting involved here and I also live in San Diego. I think I've only had one N day so far, but even my failures are so much better than many days before that that I'm not abandoning the effort. Hearing that you are in the grooove is good news.

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Of course you realize that you could not have put on two real pounds; that would mean you ate an excess of 7,000 calories beyond what you needed. It probably has more to do with the way your body retained water in response to S day eating. I'm a newbie; how can you have N days on which you eat at ni...

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Hi, folks, I'm just going to jump in here because multiple failures is up for me. I wish we knew for sure what was going to set us off. I think I have had only one or two N days out of the past 10 days of trying. I have had several successful S days! But I got the book from the library Saturday and ...

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Eggplant is just one of those foods that is not meant to be eaten raw, or even close to it, much like winter squashes, even though they are very different. It should not be spongey! With water sauteeing, the water will not heat to the same degree as oil, so foods must be cooked longer. But, really, ...

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A few years ago I took off 20 lbs. using WW to monitor, but basically I was doing something similar to NO S. (I never got into all the discussions on lowfat this and non-sugar that and dipping my fork in salad dressing instead of putting the dressing on my salad, etc.) My physician's assistant was p...

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Thanks for that suggestion. I've been having lean protein at most meals for years, for mostly that reason. A pretty big chunk, too! But I still get very hungry. I just can't fit in more at mealtime. Three ounces of chicken is about 120 cal. One tablespoon of fat is about the same, but takes up much ...

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1) Did some people find they had to have fattier meals when they started? I'm used to eating higher volume foods at my meals, but like many have said, I get very hungry between meals. I felt today like I could hardly get home fast enough to have dinner at 5:15! I can't eat much more at meals without...

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not success. forgot meds so drank a cup of hot chocolate in hopes the caffeine would wake me up. Mr. Z gave me a little Snickers bite as a way to torture the students--ha! 'Course, I didnt have to eat it. no despair, though. all in all, a good day.

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Sorry, don't know why the maxims didn't show up in red.

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Hope I got the format right. I don't know where I got it-maybe I made it up!- but I use Enough is better than more than enough. Also, from a time management book How to Get Control of Your Time and Your Life (can't remember author) Is this the best use of my time right now? Lastly, for now, from Dr....

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Hmm, I wonder if I'll be a convert. I have lost weight before. Usually, I start out with the same zeal as I have before when I've failed, and a few weeks later, see that I have actually stuck with it. I've never set a goal to do it, and then did it. So I would be happy to fall into success here, too...

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I am really impressed by your results and joyful that you've been released from the preoccupation with dieting, et al. This is my dream, too. Although I would like to be slimmer and I think I will be when I am eating reasonably, my real secret goal is just not to be worrying that I will abuse food. ...

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