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Totally agree, my sdays only calmed down slightly after 7 weeks into this. I am so glad I stuck through because I am feeling like I see a difference finally. My body knows it will get food and I feel a bit slimmer too. I probably gained initially but I think as I see how sane this is, it gets better...

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It is a shame how this seems to be the focus for some groups of women, there is more to life than our external beauty.

Another good day despite some stress. Getting better at not having food as my first thought when I am stressed. Really proud of that. It used to be that was all I thought about.

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It was interesting how it came up. I have thought this about her for a while and finally had the guts to tell her and now she is trying to turn it around on me. I won't talk about her diet or exercise anymore and now she says I am condescending toward her because I change the subject. Oh well, I am ...

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MJ, if you keep at it, you are going to have lots of phases and insights that will actually probably change over time. But if you don't stick with it, you won't have a chance at them. You seem to know that now, after quitting and coming back. I don't know if I should say this, but I gently suggest ...

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i mananged to have a few moderate sdays during my roughly 7 weeks doing this, but i think our tendency is to treat ourselves on early sdays and it's ok. it will all even out throughout the week. i really hope to also get to the point of oolala53. when i wrote this post i was really struggling. since...

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exactly, who needs that number! all it does is cause mental anguish. forget about it!

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sounds like you have some good general guidelines. i do look forward to ndays now. i really like the structure and my Sdays i'm hoping will become more and more looking like Ndays. i really hate the feeling of being overly full now. i really am learning to like hunger and knowing my body can wait ju...

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great job! one good day makes room for another. start your habit early and stick with it as long as you can. you are off to a terrific start

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today is going ok . ate a ridiculously huge lunch because i waited about 6.5 hours to eat after breakfast! but it's ok. i think i will just have a little dinner later and it shoudl be fine. lunch was pita bread (a lot of it), hummus dips, salad with chicken, apple, greek yogurt, fiber bar. it was a ...

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After 6 weeks, bf says my stomach is flatter. I don't weigh and my clothes don't feel too much different, but he swears it is. (I only have about 10 lbs to lose to be my "thinnest", so it may not be that noticeable.) It is still not easy. Waiting until that magical threshhold when it is. Been daydr...

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liz i think that's great to not replace the scale. i promised myself i would not get back on mine until april. now i'm thinking more like may. in fact, i may never get on it again. i can tell about where i am by how my clothes feel. and i may just keep using that as an indication of what i need to do.

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it takes time. and i always tell everyone i have had weeks of bad failure and then somehow it changes on it's own. failures happen to us all. many of us (myself included) have had more than 3 solid weeks of "perfection" and then "messed up"... and we just get back up and keep going.

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sometimes we have off days. and it's ok. sounds like you know that and you're doing what you need to do. and that is what is great about this system of moderation.

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thanks everyone. what's funny about the slip ups is i didn't let them overwhelm me like i did last time. i quit noS last time because i couldn't stand messing up. but now i've realized even if i mess up, i can just not mess up the next day. the S days still come, there is no punishment for not doing...

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Sounds like you have really adapted well to the structure of nos. Hope you have a wonderful weekend.

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one thing i love about this program is you can just go back to it anytime. so you mess up a few days in a row, big deal... just do the next day better. that's what i did this week. messed up monday but the last few days were great. hoping for a moderate weekend but i know if i want something i can h...

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3 good green days in a row. makes me feel pretty good.

1 more day this week and onto the weekend!

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NoBS, those suggestions sound fantastic and i will be trying some of them. so i've had a questionable few days but i've learned a lot about moderation, having a pretty moderate s-weekend compared to my first few (despite messing up today)... and i have been getting exercise in every day which is eve...

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it was a good idea to get on here. wish i would have done that on tues. and weds.... but instead i chose to snack because i just did.... can't even come up with a logical reason. but coming on here would have been a better plan! hope your friday is great!

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that was my tuesday... and weds a lesser degree. i understand and sympathize

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great idea planning out exercise days. i find that really helpful too! i can't imagine having more than one boss. must get tiring... right now i have kind of no bosses because we're waiting for our supervisor to be named!

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i love pancakes so i'd take either your pancakes or your curry dish .

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you can do it! i found the first week was the hardest. it was hard the first monday too but then i got into sort of a habit of doing it a certain way. you'll find your structure and learn what keeps you full.

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i agree with berry, just commit to the structure and the rest will come! i have times when i think "oh just a little snack wont' hurt" but then i try and make myself remember the structure.

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i hope everything goes great tomorrow! sounds like you are having great success on this plan.

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my week this week has been pretty bad too. i can relate to your struggles. it's ok, we can get back in the game. make tomorrow a fresh start. that is what i plan on doing.

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Way to go! That is exactly how you do it. Acknowledge that the hunger isn't real and choose not to satisfy it. Thanks SpiritSong! Unfortunately the binge monster hit me after dinner. It wasn't too big a binge..maybe the binge monster's baby :P a little binge always beats a big binge! it's progress ...

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wednesday was another fail but not as substantial as tuesday. i managed to do my workout wednesday night so it was a partial success Thursday - Success. got through today. really it does get hard when you mess up two consecutive ndays to get back on track but it can happen. sometimes i wonder if swe...

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I have a pretty extreme sugar addiction so I understand. I messed up today but probably had close to 30 days in as well. We can do this!

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Sounds like a great week so far!

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Good work! Off to a great start!

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Well friends, after all that self examination, had a pretty bad mess up. Definitely stress eating on top on time of the month eating (sorry if tmi). But its OK because it was one of those things I could feel coming and I knew I would break my streak soon enough. It made me kind of anxious to have no...

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Been thinking on this some more and really what I am calling mods is just further defining "don't be an idiot" for myself. I know what is too much and placing a few suggestions on sdays shouldn't harm anything since I can't really "fail" anyway. The ideas I have only make it easier for me to feel go...

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Monday ended up as a success but what was weird was I kept wanting to sabotage myself all day. But I didn't. Had more beverages than I wanted but didn't ruin the day. It is possible to be in a really bad frame of mind and not mess up. Anyway so I think there are a few reasons I feel irritated lately...

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oh i haven't weighed myself. because i know i have. my clothes aren't fitting the same and that definitely means weight gain. if i see the number though it could be very detrimental to me. not weighing until april. i figure by then i could have less wild sdays. i was doing a calorie counting thing r...

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today has been a hard day for some weird reason . i think because i am dreading this workweek which starts tomorrow for me... and also because i'm frustrated with seeing fat on my body now that wasnt' there a few weeks ago. strange how those things would make me want to eat instead of the opposite. ...

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this is why i am torn, leafy greens.... i worked really hard to lose 27 lbs and i gained some of it back but i'm still about 15 from my highest weight. i don't want to gain that 15 back while i'm "waiting for this to work" but at the same time i really really don't want to go back to the drudgery of...

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wow i could gain a lot of weight if i don't put some mods in before 6 months! hopefully it gets better before then! that's what scares me.

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i find that i do this on Sdays too. it's a bit of rebelliousness... the feeling of "i know i can have this so i will" even though i'm not hungry. i hope it does get better and i know that it does. trying to not beat myself up about it is very important! i am trying to examine my thought process as i...

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today i feel pretty good and it's almost a relief that it's monday. this weekend i had some pretty difficult moments and i'll tell you why. i still want to stay with NoS because for once i don't feel (as) obsessed with food as i once was. but i'm still thinking about it a lot which i wish i didn't. ...

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Thanks for all the great replies over the weekend. It was better in terms of wildness, but still felt a bit out of control. I introduce another mod called "only if the opportunity presents itself, and then, in moderation" what I mean is no sneaking out alone to get treats, but if its a party and the...

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Yes that is how it has been for me too. This time is easier and I never want to count calories again. Welcome back

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I would do the same thing, aim for a certain number of calories and if I was under I would have something to put me right near the total, even if not hungry! Problem was when I went "over" I would beat myself up and overdo it even more. Bad cycle. Even a little over (less than 100 calories) would se...

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Me too. Second round I knew to make this work I had to stick to it and let sdays be how they were.

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I think it is a success that you stopped when you did. Wth did not kick in, good job!

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You can do it this time. I tried this once and went back to the insanity of counting. Its so nice to have good habits and not have to worry about tracking stuff!

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Thanks skelton! It was tough to walk away for sure.

Today was good, so happy tomorrow is Friday. Have one s- event planned, probably girl scout cookies. Sday start 10pm Friday with one event. Going out of town this weekend so should be interesting

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that's great! once you do it for a short time, it does become habit! wishing you continued success

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yeah it is weird, didn't even want it until i saw it today! but since i just got one slice it's not too bad at least.

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it has worked for me but with much effort at first. we get so used to snacking that at first it is hard to take them out of your day. but it is doable. just focus on putting stuff on a plate, 3x a day at first . if one has to be a sweet at first, it's ok. focus on the non snacking first. then maybe ...

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well i think it just takes time to get used to eating a big enough meal for breakfast. dont' be too hard on yourself!

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i find tues/weds to be the most tough because usually monday i still feel satisfied from the weekend . by the time i get to weds i am usually craving something already! i know it gets easier.

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thanks for your comment Patty. i think maybe i need to try shorter distance outside for a while until my legs cooperate. i will check out those elastic bands around the knees and see if it helps. you never know what will work! Today was a success but i was so hungry right before dinner! ended up get...

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Wow so impromtu pizza ordering today at work. Luckily not my dept so I stopped by to wish the person "happy celebration" and moved on. I had already eaten my lunch so I said that. Then they said "well stop back for cake later" so now I gotta avoid it!

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all you can do is try something out for a while and see if it's successful. i wish you luck! we all have to find what works for us.

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i really like this idea of having s events for someone in your family's birthday. that way you don't have to take the whole day as an s but you can at least have cake and ice cream or something.

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me too! most people don't believe i could do that either.

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yeah i have been thinking about some new shoes. i haven't really had these very long however, so i have trouble believing that is the answer. i just got these back in october and i haven't run much outside with them... so i don't think that's it... but i was thinking about getting new shoes anyway.....

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If there is one thing I wish Reinhard had never said, it was saying it takes 21 days to change a habit. I know some research supports this, but research also shows that changing food habits is as hard for people to do as the hardest drug habits. I don't think 21 days is enough for No S to really ma...

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Snow day went well on Friday. Even though we didn't have school my son still had his basketball game, which proved to be the most challenging part of my day. I sat between my husband and mil who were both eating popcorn. I absolutely LOVE popcorn. And I was hungry because the game began at 4 and we...

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Thanks, MJ! I note, too, on your new thread that you are working on your second 21-day cycle! Good job! It does seem to get easier with practice, doesn't it! :D i hope it does get easier with practice! i want to have another successful 21 days of course. however, when i put too much pressure on mys...

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today was a bit frustrating (well this afternoon was) as i wanted to run 4.5 miles and i wasn't able to do it the whole time because my 2 spots (left calf, right knee) where i've had injuries in the past were acting up. i had to slow down to a walk a few times and as a result it took me almost an ho...

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s days are good to note but dont' ever feel bad about them. even if you've had excesses and you know it. it's really hard to not place value judgements on our days but sdays i've been coming to terms with how to change for the better and not place judgements on myself!

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your success has been inspirational! 52 days is great!

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i agree with both of you somehow... i know that sounds funny but i'll try and explain. the only mods i set for myself were reasonable ones because i can't get the idea of "dont' be an idiot" down. sdays are nonstop eating right now. and yes, i can relate to you kathleen about s=stomach-ache! so anyw...

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sounds like a good start! dont' be too hard on yourself your first sday weekends. i would also say don't introduce rules until you've been through 3 weeks. my first sdays were wild. i'm trying to get a handle on them now but it takes a little time to get the structure. the first time i tried this pl...

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our society in the US is all about "here, have this food" for whatever celebration. or even just if the food is there. it's kind of strange as others have observed while visiting. we are "food pushers" that is great that you can do so well on sdays with minimal snacks. for me it's all about the swee...

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you could probably make a few mods if you've been through 21 days and succeeded. but i would be careful in the fact that you don't want to restrict it too much, it starts to seem more like a "diet"... i wouldn't cut out anything except sweets, snacks and seconds on weekdays. you could probably try a...

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I really went wild this weekend but it is the weekend so nothing to beat myself up over. Just finding it really demoralizing to "start fresh" on Monday. Feel like throwing in the towel altogether. I missed a chance to evangelize No S to a friend. I told her I was following this great diet, and coul...

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glad i came back and read this post again. i was having a bit of the 'but i lose weight counting calories, maybe i can combine it with NoS' and on top of that, made the mistake of looking on myfitnesspal again and reading how great people were doing. i know i gained some weight doing NoS these last ...

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sweets are the thing i have the most problem with! snacks and seconds, not really! i guess we all have our part of NoS that is hardest to stick with!

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i agree too. i know i didn't want to gain weight but i felt like i had to stick with no s for a while to see if i could get the structure down. i think i did gain a bit of weight but it's ok because it helped me to have a good trial run of this and feel like i was doing something different before i ...

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Congratulations on making your 21 days, MJ! And good luck with the weeks to come - you can do it! :D thanks, even if it's not perfect i know i've acheived 21 days once which means i can do it again. gives me confidence! i think the most important thing for me is the structure... just eat these 3 ti...

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for mod #4 i should add that that is just for Sdays. no overly creamy/sugary coffee beverages on ndays . just a simple coffee with a little bit of milk and sugar! can't have starbucks every day! that really adds up! and hoping my 9 inch plates get here tomorrow or wednesday. i realize the ones i'm u...

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Sweetness wrote:I was going to start a new thread, but I see Renee is starting over, so if I start today, I'll just be a couple days behind her! I really want to get the red out of my life! Feb has been much better than Jan was for me, but I've still had a couple reds.
2-24 Day 1 S day

you can do it!

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Now that I've made 21 days I am starting my new check in thread with some mods! Just minimal and reasonable ones, I believe.

http://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=9235

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Made it to 21 and now I'm in this for the long haul. So new check in thread! Decided to do some basic ideas to keep me on track, so that I might start seeing some changes in the way I look physically - probably gained some weight doing this the last few weeks but it has freed me from calorie countin...

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thanks! i like how that looks!

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Want to make Sundays different from Saturdays from now on. I think its OK to have Saturday as little over the top if it means I feel I have gotten most of the indulgence out of my system. So I guess my first kinda sorta mod is one of the sdays is like an nday with maybe a few extras. Over time I kno...

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Made it to 21! 2/4 through 2/24 (counting it now because sdays can't be failure) next step is working on "dont be an idiot". Sdays are still pretty hedonistic! Want to fix that.

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totally agree with you oolala53 - in fact that is what was happening to me today! so many times i almost lost the battle. I wanted to eat a snack around 7pm-10pm... finally i fell asleep and woke up just before midnight . Since it is technically saturday now i had a small plate of treats and some of...

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2/4 - Day 1 - really started yesterday but it was an Sday! 2/5 - 2 2/6 - 3 2/7 - 4 2/8 - 5 2/9 - Day 6 and an Sday! 2/10 - 7 another Sday 2/11 - 8 2/12 - 9 2/13 - 10 2/14 - 11 2/15 - 12 2/16 - 13 - Sday 2/17 - 14 - Sday 2/18 - 15 2/19 - 16 2/20 - 17 2/21 - 18 2/22 - 19 2/23 - 20 will be an Sday so c...

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maybe put some on a plate and then save them for the meal? or you coudl put them on a plate and then put the empty plate on your main plate so you can visualize about how much space it woudl take up.

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although it seems like sometimes you try to educate people about NoS and they want to cling to the restrictive diets that never worked in the first place.

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i think if you practiced it for a while and didn't see much result, modifying a little is ok. as long as it doesn't have the opposite effect where you are too strict and then when you dont' comply it doesn't get too wild . that was the problem i had, as soon as i would make rules i would try to rebe...

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i think it just takes time. with exercise i only do things i know i'll really like . i do running 1x a week, cardio dvds, elliptical and mix that up and also weight lift 3x a week. i find those things keep it interesting. with diet i always had a problem and i think it's really due to constant snack...

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i have an elliptical and like to do it at least 1x a week. i try to mix it up with running and other cardio dvds so i stay interested in working out.

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i understand, same thing at my work, can't use this board. which is probably good! more work accomplished that way. that would be frustrating to not be able to use it at home.

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you can do it. just focus on getting a good structure going . make sure you eat filling foods and that way you won't be thinking about hunger all the time. your plates might be big but soon you will build your resolve and willpower and things will get easier and easier.

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thanks everyone. the job is just in the "honeymoon" phase right now. meaning i have no idea what it will be like until i've been there a few months. oolala53, you were right. my food stayed perfect in my bag all day, just put a icepack on top and bottom of the cold foods and they were still cold. my...

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Thanks for the vote of confidence. Two more ndays this week. We can do it. No bs, I have worked so hard to monitor my inner thoughts, esp regarding food! I am getting better at it. I can tell when I am feeling binges coming on. I went with chipotle only because I felt that if I did get what I really...

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today 2-20 has been a success so far but i feel really anxious today. i started a new job this week and it's been tough to move into the office and get set up. i hope i like it but who knows. it's the same building i used to work in, but different department/boss, etc. tomrorow is training from 9-1 ...

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it's funny how we do this for a while and then we go back to other systems. same story here. tried it for a short while last summer but wasn't seeing the 'Rapid weight loss' i was hoping for. little did i know, if i had just given it a chance longer i would have felt so much more freedom! anyway, no...

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well you have definitely given it a chance for 5 years! so if you feel like the mods won't make you rebel against it and do worse, go for it! i just know with me i can't be doing stuff like that too early or it undoes all my good work.

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me too! usually my binges are a lot worse than that! that is great that you stopped it before it got worse!

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you should! made a world of difference for me!

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they say you only need a little bit more calories. just make sure you drink lots of water too. that is very important!

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yeah i think i will skip march until i get a little more time under my belt. maybe first week of april. then that way i have given sdays more time to get less wild and can see if i care about making any mods to try and lose weight. i know if i see march is higher than my feb weigh in i could get ver...

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so instead you just eat three meals and if you want to have a dessert or seconds? that way you don't have to snack if you don't want to but can just have awesome stuff for meals? i can see how that might work for me. because snacking is starting to feel weird on sdays.

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i like this idea, just writing down what I do on Sdays. That way at least I can see what it was and really know if it was overdone or not.

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