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Meal 1 turkey loaf, curried eggplant, rice

Meal 2 turkey loaf, curried garbanzos and potatoes

Meal 3 rice

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Meal 1 - Virtual plate at Chinese buffet

Meal 2 - turkey-basil loaf with sweet basil marinara sauce; spinach-poppyseed pasta salad

Meal 3 - 2 slices of bread with olive hummus

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Thanks, all, for your opinions. Your input made me think. I bought four pieces of the "cake" today, and froze them. For now I feel no need or desire to eat them - it was just exciting to find sugar-free fruit-based goodies.

I'll keep an eye on how this develops, and learn from it either way.

Judy

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And a can of chili-flavoured tuna. First time I tasted it, and it was good.

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Funny stuff tonight - had an extra handful of nuts.

Tomorrow my trek to 21-day-hood starts again.

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Meal 1 Tuna salad sandwich

Meal 2 2 Vegetable tempura patties

Meal 3 Hummus-burger patty, tomato and lettuce on half a hamburger bun

Bad, bad BAAAAAD mood today. Not relevant to this board, of course, but I felt like sharing!

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In my local health food store today, I found some Banana Blueberry Bread made without any sugar or other sweeteners. Bananas and blueberries alone provided the sweet taste. It IS a cake-type thing, and tastes sweet, but only contains fresh fruit, some flour, oil, etc.

A sweet or not a sweet?

Judy

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You are so right, CaroleJo. I do not want to live forever, of course; I just want to be healthy and pain-free as long as I live. But I have two family stories that are informative: One is my aunt, now in her mid-80's, who was ahead of her time when it came to proper nutrition. Always ate lots of fru...

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No, I haven't fallen off NoS principles, but I haven't been posting (which may or may not help others, but most definitely helps me), and I've been allowing lots of diet-think to fester in my head. Ideas like deciding I should eat at certain times of the day, without fail. And I should cut out all b...

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Thanks, Deb. I like that idea. From now on I'll post daily, but briefly, in the check-in forum. I'll explore it more if there's been any funny business that day.

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I will absolutely not disappear. If I don't post every 21 days, it's because I've fallen so far, and feel so hopeless, that I've abandoned the whole thing. And I can't see myself doing that, because where is there to go from here?

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I'm currently on my second attempt at 21 days (made it through 20 days last time!), and am doing fine. Am now on my eighth day this go-round. The first time round, I posted every day on the check-in column, also writing down everything I ate. Have not done that this time, and am wondering what's app...

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Haven't posted for a week, but am most definitely still on track. In my second attempt at 21 days,. I currently have eight (including today) under my belt.

Will weigh and post weight every third Wednesday.

Judy

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Meal 1 - tabouli and pine nuts Meal 2 - tabouli and vegetarian cabbage roll (stuffed with rice) Meal 3 - toast and butter Almost nothing but carbs, but what the heck. Weighed myself today after 21 days, and have lost 5 pounds, from 237 to 232. Most pleased. And S days are around the corner. I suppos...

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Weighed myself for the first time in three weeks. At that time weighed 237 ; today was 232. So five pounds lost in three weeks, while having a wonderful time. I'm pleased and grateful. Thanks, everyone, for your help and support, and a deep bow to the brilliant Reinhard.

Judy

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Meal 1 - vegetarian cabbage roll, quinoa salad

Meal 2 - quinoa salad, curried eggplant, curried lentils

Meal 3 - quinoa salad, turkey loaf in tomato sauce

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Meal 1 - tofu lasagna, potato salad Meal 2 - Chinese buffet - Not "all I could eat" (by a long shot!), but more than one plate. Lapse. FAILure. Funny stuff. Call it what you will. Meal 3 - eggs and avocado Back to square 1. My next 21-day shot starts Wednesday, though I'll still post my weight on Th...

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After 20 SUCCESSful days, with only one day to go till I made the 21-day club, I lapsed today. It wasn't a terrible lapse, I didn't go round the bend, but I did have more than one plate at a buffet. I wasn't even hungry, nor was I enjoying the food - it was more thoughtlessness, sloppiness and downr...

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I have worked this out in my head to my satisfaction. I am starting my 21 days over again. Getting into the 21-day club is not what this is about; it's about learning a new way of being around food. I made several mistakes at the buffet tonight - "funny stuff" that was neither necessary nor enjoyabl...

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Went to a Chinese buffet tonight. Had a plate of food, but could have easily put more food on the plate, mostly by piling it up. Also, it was not a large plate, though bigger than a saucer. Went back a second time and took one bite each of three different things. Went back a third time and had one s...

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Today's food:

1. tofu lasagna

2. tofu lasagna, salad

3. bowl of soup

Only two more days to go till I'm in the 21-day club!

Judy

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Yay for Ingrid! Give me an "I"! Give me an "N"! Give me . . . . I'm new, too, Ingrid. Wednesday will be my 21st SUCCESSful day. I'll be weighing myself Thursday morning and reporting back on how much I've lost (or not) in three weeks. I put in (or not), but I really do think I've lost. In any case, ...

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Thanks to all for dried fruit input. Won't make a joke about output. I shall feel free to include them now, in moderation.

Judy

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Munch, munch, gnaw, gnaw. Finally, on my third weekend, I had some sweets. And precious little else.

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Last night, on a no-S day, my last meal of the day was raw cashews and dried apricots. For future reference, is this OK, or should dried fruit be considered a sweet? I did not overdo either the apricots or the nuts, and it was exactly what I wanted for my last meal.

Judy

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Meal 1 - Thai tofu wrap

Meal 2 - 2 vegetable tempura patties
smoked salmon

Meal 3 - cashews and dried apricots (or should this count as a sweet?)

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Hi, CJ. I'm glad you and Lyra made it safely home. Your grandparents sound like a very loving couple. My prayers are with your family.

Judy

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Meal 1 - corn/olive/tofu casserole with curried vegetables

Meal 2 - roast vegetable wrap, quinoa salad

Meal 3 - seafood salad, steamed greens with sesame oil

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Meal 1 Cornmeal/tofu/olive loaf with curried vegetables Meal 2 One plate at a Chinese buffet Meal 3 Chicken and vegetable stir-fry with almonds Today marks the end of two SUCCESSful weeks. I have never in my (long) life been so peaceful about food. There are rules, yet there's freedom. This is the b...

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Though I find buffets downright thrilling, they always end up as a bad experience. Not tonight! I went to a very good Chinese buffet (and you know how rare that is) and had just one plate! Actually, I virtually plated, putting a bite of several things on the plate, then going back for a little more ...

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I understand the confurn over furlying in cargo, and I always prefur to take pets in the cabin with me, but I have also had to fly them cargo on at least half a dozen occasions (including having them shipped cross-country to me when no-one was on the plane with them), and they have always arrived ju...

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I think they put pets on first (if they're in cargo), and they come out last. You wait for them in the luggage area. Of course, if they let her on with you, that won't be a problem. Did they assure you you'd be able to take her into the cabin? I, too, would be concerned about the soft sides of the c...

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Meal 1 - Rice and beans, tempeh salad

Meal 2 - cornmeal-olive-tofu casserole

Meal 3 - can of chunky soup

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A beauty!

Judy

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Copacetic. (Don't think I've ever used that word - if, indeed, it is a word). 1 Baked beans, wild rice salad, potato-cabbage casserole 2 Chinese "Dinner for one" - chicken chow mein, chicken chop suey, breaded almond chicken, on one plate. 3 sushi (California roll), smoked salmon Got up at a normal ...

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I always think of myself as Judy, though the name on my birth certificate is Judith. Though I like the name, I find it aloof and almost pretentious. It doesn't feel like "me" at all. Then a chance meeting with a stranger (in the supermarket, of course!) got me thinking. She believes that to change y...

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I always set the alarm for some number that adds up to 1, which is God. This time it's 12:34, because I have to get to a restaurant before 1:30, in order to make my scheduled lunch (12 - 1:30). As for moving from bed to sofa - actually, it's a La-Z-Boy, and incredibly comfortable. More often than no...

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As a relative newbie, I've spent a lot of time reading old posts, and have noticed that people sometimes post for a week or two, full of enthusiasm, and then drop out of sight. I always wonder what happened to them. I think we can assume they're no longer Nossing, but I'd like to know WHY? Did they ...

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There's a grocery chain in British Columbia called OVERWAITEA. I couldn't believe it when I first saw it. Apparently the founder used to measure out teabags for his customers 100 years ago, and he always gave them a little more than they asked for, without charging. He became famous for this and eve...

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I have used a Sherpa bag for years and am very happy with it. It's lightweight and easily carried, and fits nicely under the seat. I travel with a small dog, not a cat, but there's never been a problem.

Judith

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Another day of here-and-there eating, none of it enjoyable. I definitely prefer the structure of NoS days. In fact, I'm planning on initiating a general structure as of November 1st, to include a scheduled wake-up time and scheduled meals. Insomnia may make this difficult, but I'm making an actual c...

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I can always get interested in a discussion about fat. I once had a dinner party where I put a menu on each plate and called the soiree "Cholesterol by Candlelight". Everything was dripping and saturated. A friend commented that she had never before seen a white salad - I had so much creamy dressing...

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I've got avatar-envy. Tried entering one from my machine - didn't work. Tried selecting one from the Gallery - none showed. Can anyone help?

Jooodith

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"All times are GMT" . . . Got it.

J

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I'm wondering why, in the middle of Saturday, posts were showing as having been written on Sunday. Right now, it's 11:29 pm Saturday night, and I believe this post will show as having been written seven hours later. Checked my setting, and it's correct - Pacific Daylight time. This doesn't really ma...

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S-day. Dribs and drabs here and there.

Half a bagel with butter, cream cheese and lox.

Chicken baked with prunes and olives.

A little coconut rice with peas.

Wanted nothing. Ate little. Enjoyed nothing. It's like I can't generate any interest in food. Don't mind.

mondurvic

Meal 1 - Cold chicken cordon

Meal 2 - Cornmeal-tofu-olive casserole

Meal 3 - Chicken cordon (Yay! Last one!!); bagel, cream cheese and lox

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It is true that I am not yet sure that I will never use them again (or worse, buy new ones). This is still too new. Also, for all that I say it's OK with me if I don't lose weight, I don't know how I'll really feel if I don't. I'm in no rush - if I got 20, even 12 pounds a year, I'd be content. Ques...

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This being the salmon capital of Canada, lox is indeed reasonably priced. To get it for even less, I usually buy lox trim, which is the little bits and pieces that are left after they slice it. Doesn't look as good, but tastes the same. I currently have three large packages of sliced lox (not trim) ...

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I have SO MANY diet books and programs and charts and CD's, but I'm afraid to get rid of them. Not to mention over 100 cookbooks, though I hate to cook and hardly ever do. I've had a professional organizer in the past week, and we got rid of so many things, but I never even steered her toward the bo...

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1. chicken cordon, 1/2 bagel with butter, cream cheese and lox

2. whole bagel with butter, cream cheese and lox

3. Chicken cordon with rutabaga and a few bites of rice, one olive

BTW, bagels in Canada are about half the size of bagels in the States.

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You'd have to be very fast, Deb, and able to put away a lot. What happens is I "go on a diet" and want to get all non-allowable food out of the house, so I get rid of EVERYTHING that contains ________________ (carbs, fats, animal protein, dairy, salt, refined products, etc. - fill in the blank for t...

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Exactly, Deb. Frozen food never stopped me before. Besides, with microwaves, how long does it take to go from frozen to melt-in-your-mouth? As for giving it to neighbours, I have been known to do this, then go back later and ask for it back. Really. I have no pride or shame when it comes to food. Ju...

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I will not be baking or keeping sweets in the house. Who am I trying to kid?

Judith

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I've had seven successful days! Yippee!!! I can do this!!!! Today's meals: 1. bagel, butter, cream cheese, lox 2. whole plate-sized thin-crust vegetable pizza 3. chicken cordon, brown rice with a few olives, rutabagas with butter I am happy that I'm sticking to the parameters of the diet, but not so...

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I'm a newbie, too, though a week older than you. Today marks a complete week, and I'm one-third of the way to the 21-day club. It has been incredibly easy. There have been no struggles, no "I want it!"/"You can't have it" quarrels in my head. I even ended up eating less on S days than I did on N day...

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Already thinking longingly of upcoming S-days, I spent a couple of hours (talk about the need for Weekend Ludditing!) on the epicurious.com site, looking for something to bake for the weekend. Came upon what looks like the perfect cake, BUT I am afraid that if there is any left (as is likely. Maybe....

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1. Chicken cordon with steamed carrots 2. 1 1/2 bagels with butter, cream cheese and a little lox 3. Chicken cordon with spinach, brown rice and a little butter Don't know if chicken cordons are known in the States, though we call them that here. Originally from "Cordon Bleu", it means a chicken bre...

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When I first found the site and turned to the picture of Reinhard, I was disappointed. He was so young! How could he possibly know anything that could help a 63-year old with decades of experience in dieting? Now I think that it probably took a fresh perspective, someone looking at the problem with ...

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Yesterday, Sunday, I again had no appetite, so ate only one meal. Had soup and a main dish, then was still hungry(ish), but instead of ordering a dessert, ordered another bowl of soup. That filled me up and I felt better about it. So a weekend with not one sweet. Now today, of course, I feel like ha...

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Ended up having a second meal at 3 am:

California roll
Small salmon/seafood pinwheel
Small baked potato with a little butter

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What a disastrous S-day this was! My very first S-day . . . and I had no appetite! Finally ended up eating somethng at 10 pm, mostly because I thought I should, and of course the day isn't over yet, but it was amazing to me that knowing I COULD eat seemed to eradicate cravings, whereas when I'm on a...

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It's been perfect, according to definition. Struggled (and continue to struggle) with desire for sweets tonight, and truly only the knowledge that tomorrow I can actually have them is what kept me on track. Thank you for that stroke of genius, Reinhard. It's better that it's two days, too, not just ...

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A perfect first day, and it was even easy! I won't call my meals Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner, since I eat at erratic times; instead, they'll be 1, 2 and 3. 1. Amy's organic frozen pizza with whole wheat crust, roasted vegetables and no cheese. The whole thing fit on a plate so I ate it. 2. Small Sto...

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. . . I'm intrigued by the Weekend Luddite idea. I spend vast amounts of time online, and tell myself it's OK, because after all, there's nothing else I HAVE to do. The bills are paid, I've been to the dentist and the bank - why shouldn't I spend my time online? Why is it any worse (or better) than ...

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(Options in the title are there to accommodate the various age groups.) The problem: IF I fill my plate, I'll eat all of it, even if I realize part-way through that I've had enough. On the other hand, IF I don't fill my plate, I may feel that I haven't had enough and risk being hungry soon after, we...

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Thanks for the input, Azathoth. I have read up a bit on sleeping disorders, and they recommend exactly what you say, with the exception that they say to do it seven days a week. I have tried it, and it has helped, but then what happens is I have a night I can't sleep at the scheduled time or anywher...

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I didn't get to vote yet!

Are you saying that even though the whole thing (bear in mind, it's a SMALL pizza) fits on the plate, I can't have it?

Judith

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I DID start today - started at midnight last night, that being the beginning of "today". Ate right up to 11:59, of course. One problem is that for me, today is still yesterday. I have not been to sleep yet, and am not even tired. Eventually I will sleep, but it makes handling my three meals confusin...

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Some of the smaller frozen pizzas, like Amy's or Dr. Oetker, fit in their entirety on a plate. We're looking at 850 calories here, for one meal. I could easily put the whole thing away without blinking an eye (and more, too), but is this acceptable? Reminds me of the time I went to a buffet which wa...

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Re bipolar - no, I'm not offended at all, just surprised that you zeroed in on it on such short acquaintance. Over the years, several people have told me they think I am bipolar, but I have never been diagnosed as such, so don't know what to make of it. There was a brief period of time when I took l...

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Sandy -

I don't understand - what do you mean you could never come on this site again?

Judith

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The others seemed iffy about doing this, though I think that as this site grows, they will have to have many sub-groups, along the lines of those at www.radiantrecovery.com. BTW, Jan-Tz, I recognized your screen name as soon as I saw it. I'm an old McDougaller, too - in fact, I even went to his clin...

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No argument from me! I have no doubt that dieting has contributed to my excess weight. All those last-night-before-a-diet binges alone have been good for about 100 pounds. I know diets don't work - or rather they all do, as Reinhold points out; it's just that you can't stay on them. My problem was t...

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Last night I discovered this site. My first post said how I couldn't wait to start. Sounds immediate, no? A subsequent email said I'd start November 1st. Now, there was a perfectly good reason for this delay. You see, November 1st is 11/1 - thus three ones, and of course, God is One. More significan...

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Thanks for the suggestions, Freakwitch. I had just come upon the same conclusion myself: weigh myself every 21 days. Tomorrow will be Day 1. I'm excited (also panicky).

Judy

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As I understand it, snacks, sweets and seconds are allowed on S days. My question: Are we still supposed to have our regular three meals, or are we in anything-goes mode?

Judy

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Thanks for the suggestion, Deb. I was particularly glad to hear from you because I've been reading past postings, and got really worried when you said you were taking a "holiday". You've done so well, and are a stalwart here. I understood better when you gave your massage analogy, though. I am tryin...

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I mean I've passed the LINK on. Better start previewing my messages . . .

J

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A friend referred me to it yesterday. Don't know how she came upon it, but will ask. I have already passed the lunk on, though I haven't yet started. That happens November 1st.

Judy

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Is this a good idea? If so, how often?

Judy

PS Thanks to all who replied to previous posts. Most helpful, and the personal attention is encouraging.

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How does "no seconds" work in, say, a Chinese restaurant, where you would have a couple of dishes brought to you on separate plates, and the rice in another bowl? Or three-course meals - say soup, a main course and a salad. And no doubt buffets are ill-advised! Is it no seconds of each individual fo...

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My dilemma: I don't work, have no children and few responsibilities. No complaints about any of that, but it means that there is never any reason to do anything at a particular time. I never know when I'll go to sleep or when I'll wake up; I never know when I'll eat. Sometimes I'm upside-down, sleep...

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I've got all of you beat - I'm 63 and have been dieting since I'm 7. Despite having been on a diet for 56 years, I am still fat. I am VERY excited about this N-S plan, and think you write beautifully, Reinhard. You have gone right to the heart of the matter. I'm starting immediately, though I do hav...

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