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Protein, Macronutrients and fun stuff...

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:20 am
by happywife
Hi everyone,

First time poster. My husband has been doing NoS since I think 2007 or so. He has combined NoS with Paleo and it has worked great for him. Af I am getting older- I would also like to get more fit and eat better. Using his email- he set up an account for me here and sent me here saying this is the best place to get started and Reinhard has created a great community- so here I am!!!!

I read the website- and it truly is amazing the knowledge Reinhard has shared. My husband is always obsessing with his "Macros" and eats high protein/Fat diet (paleo) with the NoS guideline (3 meals a day). My personality isn't that obsessive that I want to calculate out how much protein and so forth I am eating. Plus I struggle alot with protein since I am not a heavy meat eater.

Reinhard- I see that you eat mostly vegetarian (based on the dietary default post)- which would suit me perfect- is that by design or it just happens that you don't eat that much meat?

I want to simplify and my husband has the food scale out...lol. Thanks all for your help!

Brinn

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:49 am
by automatedeating
Welcome! Let me be the first of many that will adamantly encourage you that NoS does not require any food weighing, counting, concern over macros, etc., etc.!

As one long-time poster's signature says, "I count plates. 3 a day." That's all you need to worry about! :)

To each his (or her own), so some of us here count other things, stick to other types of diets, but many of us are loathe to do much "accounting" work of our meals. You'll find a whole variety of eaters here: vegetarians, paleo, low-carb, and "whole food" eaters, among others.

And no matter what your path, I think you'll find this community to be among the nicest of forums! I've been amazed in my short time on NoS with the kindness of this forum.

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:30 pm
by Blithe Morning
I know with me, my increasing vegetarianism is more a result of drifting to what makes me feel good rather than undertaking any intentional program beyond No S.

Part of this I realize is because I am an empty nester so I don't have to consider the preferences of anyone other than hubby and me and hubby is perfectly fine with eating less meat and making dairy an accent rather than the focus.

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:53 pm
by oolala53
Welcome, our new friend!

I'm the one who counts three plates a day, but to be honest, I do loosely use a version of MyPlate.com for most lunches and dinners, so that over the years, my volume of dense foods has very much decreased, while freggies are about steady. I waver between lower carb (evolution) and vegetarianism (Eastern philosophical influences), but I, too, would not want to count. And I want to be able to eat out without asking a ton of questions about gluten or too many other nutrients. Me and Mexican fast food have a good thing goin'. And an Indian restaurant without naan?

On another board un-No S related, there is a woman who eats high fat/protein. NO grains/ legumes, etc., not to mention no sugar. She's rather snobby about it (even wrote a blog once implying that people who eat grains are as dumb as dogs eating manure) so I never want to ask her any questions, but I am curious what her meals might look like because she says they are rather high in fat. I wonder if it's from high-fat meats (but not processed ones; she's a stickler for organic, whole foods, non-GMO, etc.) or what. I just want to know what some typical meals look like. Maybe your husband knows of a quick-and-dirty guide? There should be an Eat This, Not That for lazy paleo experimenters.

No S is the Bomb! You will have so much fun. And no husband pushing candy on you mid-week.

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 2:02 am
by automatedeating
Here are some high/fat, high/protein, or both:
Bacon and cheese omelette
Steak and veggies sautéed in lots of butter
Cream of "some veggie" soup, ideally with an avocado on top.
Cream smoothies for breakfast
Ground beef with lots of spices, cheese, avocado, and onions
Hmmm, I think I'm hungry now.

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:55 am
by Healthiermum
with paleo they cook a lot with coconut oil which increases the fat content of meals. Acocado is also a good fat source. I would say things like eggs with veggies, meat/chicken/fish with veggies things like that would make up the majority of their meals. I once saw a picture that said paleo half the plate meats the other half veggies

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:16 am
by happywife
Thanks for replying everyone!!!

As for the paleo diet.- my husband follows this guide...

http://rippedbody.jp/2011/10/08/leangai ... -yourself/

He eats meat, fish, dairy for his protein sources. His primary meat choices are chicken, turkey, beef and fish. He rotates, some days leaner cuts of meat somedays not. He doesn't eat anything processed- so no bacon, sausage etc. He tells me he gets in 0.4 grams of fat per pound of weight.

hope that helps!!!

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 2:17 pm
by Zoid
Hello and welcome!

When you are first starting out, concentrating on the 3 meals a day with no in between is hard enough, so start there.

After you have vanilla no s down to a habit, then you can worry about macro nutrients. Most here recommend dividing your plate into quarters: 1/4 protein (doesn't have to be meat), 1/4 carb, 1/2 fruits/veggies (freggies).

For most people, that guideline is enough. If you're a hardcore athlete and are training for something, then other adjustments are ok.

But main point: don't worry about it until you can easily do vanilla no s.

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:07 pm
by Over43
No S, when I focus, gets rid of the need for calorie counting, food weighing, etc. Although I think a low carb approach might be the best way to stay healthier, there are four regular occupants in the house with me. It is not economoically feasible for me to expect them to do have two or more seperate diet plans.

No S is truly, eat what is available, but keep it to three plates a day: breakfast, lunch, dinner.

Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:43 pm
by Jethro
Speaking of macro/micro nutrients, this article can help:

http://impruvism.com/clean-eating/

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