Everyday Systems

Check these out:

http://blog.exuberantanimal.com/welcome ... mal-stick/
http://vimeo.com/15347345

OK, I'll bite.

It looks interesting, and fun. The only thing is how do you make one?

I think this has been linked to before in the past. Personally, I'm not impressed. These people seriously expect folks to pay for a rock and a stick?

Yeah. I posted the link just because some of the moves work nicely with the shovelglove.

Thanks for the link. Always good to keep abreast of other shovelglove-like stuff that's out there.

I dug up the older post Djemps mentioned:

http://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5092

Reinhard

You could do the same thing with a weight bar with plate on one end. Actually I thin exercises shown on video, as far as I watched it which was not whole thing, are useless. Mostly using momentum and not strength. Shovelglove is to me much better and also kettlebells, sand bags, indian clubs, and many other devices.

Chiangmaiboss, no disrespect, but what is wrong with using momentum? Is it not a natural, useful thing to speed up objects as we manipulate them? I know some people try to eliminate momentum, but I don't see where that applies once we're shovelling snow, throwing a ball, or jumping to catch a frisbee.

When you lift slowly, your muscles are doing the work. If you do it quickly, momentum is doing much of it. Just try lifting same weight slowly and quickly and you will see the difference. This is why bodybuilders lift slowly, and weight lifters lift quickly.

I got my deadlift to 400 pounds by doing kettlebell swings with a single 65 pound KB. The swing is a movement full of momentum and acceleration/deceleration. If momentum-intensive lifting doesn't build strength or muscle, tell it to by back, hips, and grip. I'm not trying to be rude, but rather putting my own experience out there.

chiangmaiboss wrote:You could do the same thing with a weight bar with plate on one end.

Nope.

Most weight bars are heavy (10lbs or more). The amount of weight most people can add to the end of a weight bar and still swing it.

If you can do shovelglove with a weight bar and 30lbs of weights on it, fine.

If you can only add a small weight then you don't get the same unbalancing effect as you do with a lightweight handle (eg. wood) and all the weight at one end. The unbalancing is important.

Before I start, I am not starting anything. Read with the kindest of intents.

Storm Fox and chiangmaiboss - I think you are both right. I used to do work out with one guy who insisted he only move slllowly (almost super slow style). I used to joke with him because we'd shoot hoops afterwards and I kept joking that he should shoot slower. Another guy (later workout partner) did these crazy curls that were more like one arm cleans. When we'd eat afterwards I'd tell him to "accelerate the cup!!!!" when he brought his drink to his lips.

In my experience, you train for your goals and pick movements that work with the type of body stress you are trying to achieve.

fungus - I have access to a sledge and also have a lightly weighted bar I use for shugging. They do feel different, but I would disagree on the lack of unbalance with the weighted bar. Personal experience here - I feel the sledge more in my elbows/wrists and the weighted bar more in my shoulders/elbows.

Is the weighted bar "purest shovelglove?" Nope. Does it work? Yep. As far as biomechanics go a long lever is a long lever - weight distribution is slightly different, but the basic loading feels very similar. My observation having access to both.

Thanks everyone, hope the discussion was worth the read!