4/30/14
No weigh in as I got up at 4 AM for a run then to work
3 mile run
Breakfast: scramled eggs, bacon
Lunch: salmon, beans, veggies, 2 TB peanut butter
Dinner: avocado "pudding", pickles, red wine
Grothkat 2013 daily check in
Moderators: Soprano, automatedeating
Okay. I hate it when my whole narrative does not save!! Anyway, I am sorry I have not been able to do daily check ins. I was on the road, worked four 12 hour shifts, left for California, moved a friend, worked, and am moving to Seattle so I am applying for jobs and a doctorate program. Enough excuses. Things have been going well. I have felt more relaxed with meals but have not been completely green. 
My weight has remained stable between 199-203 lbs. I would like to lose...really bad...but am trying not to focus too much on that.
Today 5/19 Failure...felt anxious/apprehensive all day and like I was going to "crack" on the food front. Exercised, cleaned, socialized/called a friend, did some work I was avoiding (job apps, finalizing my resume, began grad school application) and still felt terrible and again, like I was going to "crack". Went to work and taught a class to pre-surgical candidates, went to the glorious whole foods, ate a sample cookie and kaboom...grabbed pizza, salad and cookies for dinner. Darn, it's over now.
Breakfast: protein shake, coffee
Step and Strength class
Lunch: salmon, cauliflower mashed "potatoes", cottage cheese
Dinner: pizza, salad, cookies, kombucha
My weight has remained stable between 199-203 lbs. I would like to lose...really bad...but am trying not to focus too much on that. Today 5/19 Failure...felt anxious/apprehensive all day and like I was going to "crack" on the food front. Exercised, cleaned, socialized/called a friend, did some work I was avoiding (job apps, finalizing my resume, began grad school application) and still felt terrible and again, like I was going to "crack". Went to work and taught a class to pre-surgical candidates, went to the glorious whole foods, ate a sample cookie and kaboom...grabbed pizza, salad and cookies for dinner. Darn, it's over now.
Breakfast: protein shake, coffee
Step and Strength class
Lunch: salmon, cauliflower mashed "potatoes", cottage cheese
Dinner: pizza, salad, cookies, kombucha
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What graduate program are you trying to get into, you enterprising woman, you?
Count plates, not calories. 11 years "during"
Age 69
BMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8 3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
9/17 22.8 (flux) 3/18 22.2
2 yrs flux 6/20 22
1/21-23
There is no S better than Vanilla No S (mods now as a senior citizen)
Age 69
BMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8 3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
9/17 22.8 (flux) 3/18 22.2
2 yrs flux 6/20 22
1/21-23
There is no S better than Vanilla No S (mods now as a senior citizen)
Whew finally finished my move back to Seattle (well partially...subletting for two months until I move back into my house). Managed to gain 2 lbs through this move but have been thankful to have the No S structure to fall back on now. I don't know exactly why but this move has stressed me out more than any others.
Breakfast:
2 eggs with cottage cheese and butter
Coconut creamer in my coffee
30 min walk
1 hr body pump
Lunch:
Creme brûlée french toast
Apple fritter
Snack:
2 bowls cereal (kinda binge like) with 1 TB peanut butter
Rice pilaf
Dinner:
-2 glasses red wine
Oatmeal cookie
Breakfast:
2 eggs with cottage cheese and butter
Coconut creamer in my coffee
30 min walk
1 hr body pump
Lunch:
Creme brûlée french toast
Apple fritter
Snack:
2 bowls cereal (kinda binge like) with 1 TB peanut butter
Rice pilaf
Dinner:
-2 glasses red wine
Oatmeal cookie
Tried to post more several times but I could not log in for some reason. Anyway, major fail today. I had a good cry about being at my new highest weight and the statistics about how diets fail and how people on diets gain even more weight. She made a good point saying that is usually people who go on fad diets but those who build and maintain healthy habits. hmm "build and maintain habits. More on this tomorrow...must sleep.
Grothkat, hope it's okay if I blather on for a bit here with my opinions First, I staunchly believe, as you know, your weight is not the issue. It is a symptom of how many roles food plays in your life and which ones are taking precedent. And it may also be exacerbated by the mental strategies you use to try to change the eating behavior. It is very unlikely that you can change this quickly unless you are suffering a terrible health problem RIGHT NOW OR you luck out and have some other epiphany. Very hard to bet on the last one. If the previous one is true, it's another problem.
No slim societies in the world eat only for nutrition. They believe pleasure is also extremely important. They believe that pleasure is linked to wholesomeness and quality in the food. Thus the nutrition is included but not by concentrating on any specific health element. They do NOT eat for what we would call comfort. They find other ways to deal with stress, including sometimes avoiding it altogether with a different life philosophy than most Americans have. They don't put as much emphasis on achieving and acquiring. The government helps subsidize health care, which it can afford to do more because fewer citizens have the problems associated with obesity and stress.
But you don't have to try to become one of these people in just a few weeks.
The only way to lose weight permanently is to find a way to HAPPILY eat less and move more consistently AND very likely to reduce the effects of stress, as it can affect not only what we eat but also how our body uses food. Focusing on the weight part of it can skew the data. One cannot likely be bludgeoned into eating less HAPPILY. Basically, through something like NO S, we get weaned off extra food, whether consciously or unconsciously. We replace some of the pleasure and comfort from overeating with limiting our intake in a reasonable way and having a greater appreciation of what we do eat. We start to see overall that it increases our pleasure and even comfort NOT to overeat. We slowly change the balance of quality food to less quality food and the amount we eat while NOT judging ourselves for our choices. We feel much better and we are willing to exert some effort to keep these new, good feelings, even though we may backtrack along the way. This all typically doesn't happen with a few experiences in a few weeks. As pointed out in the book, it happens over hundreds of plates of food, hundreds of successful experiences. Possibly thousands. But the time will pass anyway. Might as well start practicing.
YOU can do this! Even professionals in slim societies manage to eat to support their busy lives. You can learn, too. The next year will be a great learning ground. Do what you can to assert your right to feed yourself reasonably and regularly.
No slim societies in the world eat only for nutrition. They believe pleasure is also extremely important. They believe that pleasure is linked to wholesomeness and quality in the food. Thus the nutrition is included but not by concentrating on any specific health element. They do NOT eat for what we would call comfort. They find other ways to deal with stress, including sometimes avoiding it altogether with a different life philosophy than most Americans have. They don't put as much emphasis on achieving and acquiring. The government helps subsidize health care, which it can afford to do more because fewer citizens have the problems associated with obesity and stress.
But you don't have to try to become one of these people in just a few weeks.
The only way to lose weight permanently is to find a way to HAPPILY eat less and move more consistently AND very likely to reduce the effects of stress, as it can affect not only what we eat but also how our body uses food. Focusing on the weight part of it can skew the data. One cannot likely be bludgeoned into eating less HAPPILY. Basically, through something like NO S, we get weaned off extra food, whether consciously or unconsciously. We replace some of the pleasure and comfort from overeating with limiting our intake in a reasonable way and having a greater appreciation of what we do eat. We start to see overall that it increases our pleasure and even comfort NOT to overeat. We slowly change the balance of quality food to less quality food and the amount we eat while NOT judging ourselves for our choices. We feel much better and we are willing to exert some effort to keep these new, good feelings, even though we may backtrack along the way. This all typically doesn't happen with a few experiences in a few weeks. As pointed out in the book, it happens over hundreds of plates of food, hundreds of successful experiences. Possibly thousands. But the time will pass anyway. Might as well start practicing.
YOU can do this! Even professionals in slim societies manage to eat to support their busy lives. You can learn, too. The next year will be a great learning ground. Do what you can to assert your right to feed yourself reasonably and regularly.
Count plates, not calories. 11 years "during"
Age 69
BMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8 3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
9/17 22.8 (flux) 3/18 22.2
2 yrs flux 6/20 22
1/21-23
There is no S better than Vanilla No S (mods now as a senior citizen)
Age 69
BMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8 3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
9/17 22.8 (flux) 3/18 22.2
2 yrs flux 6/20 22
1/21-23
There is no S better than Vanilla No S (mods now as a senior citizen)
SW: 210 lbs7/16/14 SUCCESS!! and a really good feeling success too!
Thank you oolala, you always have the best pearls of wisdom to share. If only I could actually listen to you and everyone on this site and stick with No S. I always drift because I panic about my weight. I think another big issue is just that my weight, eating, new ideas about how to eat to be slim consume a ton of my time and I feel bored or unsure what to without it. I really do think it scares me not to constantly think about food and my weight and figure what to do with so much time. I want to go back to school this year so I could obviously use the time for that...lol. Anyway, today felt great. I do love to cook so coming home, spending quality time outdoors with my boyfriend and my dogs, then cooking a wonderful meal and enjoying it makes my day feel so much more fulfilled.
Breakfast: cottage cheese with protein powder, coffee with coconut creamer
Lunch: chicken breast and chick pea salad, bean soup, sugar free "cocoa"
Dinner: salmon, salad with avocados and salsa, small amount pasta marinara
Beverage: ice tea with small amount whiskey and grenadine (nice summer beverage)
Activity: 3 mile jog, weights
Thank you oolala, you always have the best pearls of wisdom to share. If only I could actually listen to you and everyone on this site and stick with No S. I always drift because I panic about my weight. I think another big issue is just that my weight, eating, new ideas about how to eat to be slim consume a ton of my time and I feel bored or unsure what to without it. I really do think it scares me not to constantly think about food and my weight and figure what to do with so much time. I want to go back to school this year so I could obviously use the time for that...lol. Anyway, today felt great. I do love to cook so coming home, spending quality time outdoors with my boyfriend and my dogs, then cooking a wonderful meal and enjoying it makes my day feel so much more fulfilled.
Breakfast: cottage cheese with protein powder, coffee with coconut creamer
Lunch: chicken breast and chick pea salad, bean soup, sugar free "cocoa"
Dinner: salmon, salad with avocados and salsa, small amount pasta marinara
Beverage: ice tea with small amount whiskey and grenadine (nice summer beverage)
Activity: 3 mile jog, weights
7/17/14 Success (but did not feel as good as yesterday)
Ate a little too much and felt like I took in too much liquid calories to compensate for wanting to eat but I am a work in progress. Still stuck to 3 meals!
Breakfast: cottage cheese, almond butter, coffee with 2 tb half and half
Lunch: chicken curry soup, two rye crisps, tortilla, garden salad, yogurt with strawberries
Dinner: (ate at 4 PM as I was hungry-ish (?)/feeling snacky)
cheese sandwich, left over pasta, yogurt with raisins and banana chips
Beverages: coffee with soy milk, red wine (2 glasses)
Activity: 4 mile walk, "pick-up" soccer
Ate a little too much and felt like I took in too much liquid calories to compensate for wanting to eat but I am a work in progress. Still stuck to 3 meals!
Breakfast: cottage cheese, almond butter, coffee with 2 tb half and half
Lunch: chicken curry soup, two rye crisps, tortilla, garden salad, yogurt with strawberries
Dinner: (ate at 4 PM as I was hungry-ish (?)/feeling snacky)
cheese sandwich, left over pasta, yogurt with raisins and banana chips
Beverages: coffee with soy milk, red wine (2 glasses)
Activity: 4 mile walk, "pick-up" soccer
I think you should just go ahead and plan minimeal at 4 pm until you feel you might let responding to "feeling snacky" drop relatively naturally. That is not hunger nor need. But it's better to relax about it for a bit until you have a solid gap from breakfast to lunch and dinner to breakfast. You can work on the next details later.
Count plates, not calories. 11 years "during"
Age 69
BMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8 3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
9/17 22.8 (flux) 3/18 22.2
2 yrs flux 6/20 22
1/21-23
There is no S better than Vanilla No S (mods now as a senior citizen)
Age 69
BMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8 3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
9/17 22.8 (flux) 3/18 22.2
2 yrs flux 6/20 22
1/21-23
There is no S better than Vanilla No S (mods now as a senior citizen)
7/18/14 Fail
Most definitely ate due to anxiety today...pure and simple.
Breakfast: cottage cheese, almond butter
Lunch: turkey and avocado sandwich, 2 sm scones
Dinner: vegetarian sandwich, sausage, shrimp skewers, chocolate covered graham crackers, 2 peppermint patties.
Beverages: red wine (2 glasses)
Activity: 1 hour walk, 1 hour bike ride
Most definitely ate due to anxiety today...pure and simple.
Breakfast: cottage cheese, almond butter
Lunch: turkey and avocado sandwich, 2 sm scones
Dinner: vegetarian sandwich, sausage, shrimp skewers, chocolate covered graham crackers, 2 peppermint patties.
Beverages: red wine (2 glasses)
Activity: 1 hour walk, 1 hour bike ride
Thank you oolala for the support. Today should be a fun day. Meeting up with a friend to watch the Sounders (seattle soccer team).
Activity: 2 mile jog
Breakfast: coffee with 1/2 and 1/2, lox, cream cheese, on whole wheat bread
Lunch: (at soccer stadium) red wine, 4 pork ribs, sm. side of cole slaw
Dinner: whole wheat pasta marinara, salad, muesli with almond butter
Activity: 1 hr walk
Activity: 2 mile jog
Breakfast: coffee with 1/2 and 1/2, lox, cream cheese, on whole wheat bread
Lunch: (at soccer stadium) red wine, 4 pork ribs, sm. side of cole slaw
Dinner: whole wheat pasta marinara, salad, muesli with almond butter
Activity: 1 hr walk
Last edited by grothkat on Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:02 am, edited 1 time in total.
I went to a dance class Thursday taught by a West African dance teacher based in Seattle. I've sometimes thought I should be living there!
Count plates, not calories. 11 years "during"
Age 69
BMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8 3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
9/17 22.8 (flux) 3/18 22.2
2 yrs flux 6/20 22
1/21-23
There is no S better than Vanilla No S (mods now as a senior citizen)
Age 69
BMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8 3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
9/17 22.8 (flux) 3/18 22.2
2 yrs flux 6/20 22
1/21-23
There is no S better than Vanilla No S (mods now as a senior citizen)
7/20/14
Breakfast: whole wheat bread with two eggs and mayonnaise (egg salad sandwich I suppose)
Lunch: berries, salmon chowder with baguette, side salad, mimosa
Snack: whole foods samples, homemade drinking chocolate
Dinner: tomato soup, cauliflower
Beverages/other: iced coffee with half and half
Activity: 2 hr bike ride, stroll through farmer's markets
Perfect S-day. Some indulgences but it felt balanced with my meals. Bike rides, trip to the museum, brunch/lunch with friends, farmer's market stroll, and then a nice lazy movie night.
Breakfast: whole wheat bread with two eggs and mayonnaise (egg salad sandwich I suppose)
Lunch: berries, salmon chowder with baguette, side salad, mimosa
Snack: whole foods samples, homemade drinking chocolate
Dinner: tomato soup, cauliflower
Beverages/other: iced coffee with half and half
Activity: 2 hr bike ride, stroll through farmer's markets
Perfect S-day. Some indulgences but it felt balanced with my meals. Bike rides, trip to the museum, brunch/lunch with friends, farmer's market stroll, and then a nice lazy movie night.
7/21/14 Yesterday was a complete failure. I essentially binged all day.
Then for some reason I decided to get on the scale this morning...ugh not a good idea. I am freaking out some now. I weight 211.6 absolutely the highest I have ever seen. I have been weighing myself my in the evening (just for convenience) and have been weighing 205-208. Ugh how do I gain weight so fast? I have no idea sometimes. It really freaks me out and makes me feel like I should get gastric bypass or something. Again, a rant here. I will continue to weigh myself every morning because as I have figured out in the past, not weighing usually leads me to freak out about not weighing and then get on the scale in fits and panics. When I do weigh everyday, I at least start to calm down about how my weight fluctuates. Ahhh, I feel better after freaking out though.
Then for some reason I decided to get on the scale this morning...ugh not a good idea. I am freaking out some now. I weight 211.6 absolutely the highest I have ever seen. I have been weighing myself my in the evening (just for convenience) and have been weighing 205-208. Ugh how do I gain weight so fast? I have no idea sometimes. It really freaks me out and makes me feel like I should get gastric bypass or something. Again, a rant here. I will continue to weigh myself every morning because as I have figured out in the past, not weighing usually leads me to freak out about not weighing and then get on the scale in fits and panics. When I do weigh everyday, I at least start to calm down about how my weight fluctuates. Ahhh, I feel better after freaking out though.
About weight: I usually weigh daily unless I have a long red period (such as a sickness) where I give myself a couple of days to get my weigh down before going back to it. I have the same experience about being a bit more relaxed about fluctuations if I weigh regularly.
However, here are my tips: Weigh first thing in the morning after going to the loo. Not to weigh the least but because I find this more accurate. Some days I drink a lot of water, some days I don't. Some days I ate a lot of volume some days I don't. So I want to minimise fluctuations (and they still happen anyways but less so) by weighing exactly the same time under the same circumstances and this is not possible in the evening unless you eat the same kind of thing at all times.
Just a thought. Plus, you'll see immediately a lower number on the scales and it will give you enthusiasm to fence around the law and stick to NoS in spirit
However, here are my tips: Weigh first thing in the morning after going to the loo. Not to weigh the least but because I find this more accurate. Some days I drink a lot of water, some days I don't. Some days I ate a lot of volume some days I don't. So I want to minimise fluctuations (and they still happen anyways but less so) by weighing exactly the same time under the same circumstances and this is not possible in the evening unless you eat the same kind of thing at all times.
Just a thought. Plus, you'll see immediately a lower number on the scales and it will give you enthusiasm to fence around the law and stick to NoS in spirit
eschano - Vanilla rocks!
July 2012- January 2016
Started again January 2021
July 2012- January 2016
Started again January 2021
Just feel the need to say it: you are not your weight nor your eating habits.
A question to ponder with curiosity and compassion: where does your fear and panic go when you find yourself overeating?
Have you accepted yet that the fear and panic actually make it MORE likely that you will binge again?
A question to ponder with curiosity and compassion: where does your fear and panic go when you find yourself overeating?
Have you accepted yet that the fear and panic actually make it MORE likely that you will binge again?
Count plates, not calories. 11 years "during"
Age 69
BMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8 3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
9/17 22.8 (flux) 3/18 22.2
2 yrs flux 6/20 22
1/21-23
There is no S better than Vanilla No S (mods now as a senior citizen)
Age 69
BMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8 3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
9/17 22.8 (flux) 3/18 22.2
2 yrs flux 6/20 22
1/21-23
There is no S better than Vanilla No S (mods now as a senior citizen)
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Grothkat, how's it going? Listen to oolala and eschano, they have such great advice! You've been doing so well with NoS, keep it up!
I get so frustrated when some days seem so easy, and I think I have NoS down, and then, Boom! it gets hard and it takes every ounce of will power to not give in. But that's what establishing the habit is about. One day off track isn't going to change anything - just mark it and move on! Read thru some of the long-timers' success stories - most have a lot of fails in the beginning, and everyone still has fails, no matter how long they've been on this. You aren't going to be perfect, and you don't have to be.
As to the weight, it is just a number! A few years back when I started weight lifting, I went down 2 sizes even though I stayed the same weight! I try to focus on things that should be more important to me, like feeling good, being healthy, enjoying my food, and not being controlled by food. These are much more important than weight and even clothing size, but it's hard to not focus on those.
Be kind to yourself, just focus on making it to the next meal, you can do this!
I get so frustrated when some days seem so easy, and I think I have NoS down, and then, Boom! it gets hard and it takes every ounce of will power to not give in. But that's what establishing the habit is about. One day off track isn't going to change anything - just mark it and move on! Read thru some of the long-timers' success stories - most have a lot of fails in the beginning, and everyone still has fails, no matter how long they've been on this. You aren't going to be perfect, and you don't have to be.
As to the weight, it is just a number! A few years back when I started weight lifting, I went down 2 sizes even though I stayed the same weight! I try to focus on things that should be more important to me, like feeling good, being healthy, enjoying my food, and not being controlled by food. These are much more important than weight and even clothing size, but it's hard to not focus on those.
Be kind to yourself, just focus on making it to the next meal, you can do this!