Counting carbs/calories is a drag. Obsessive scale stepping is a recipe for despair. If you want to count something, "days on habit" is a much better metric. Checking off days on a calendar would do just fine, but if you do it here you get accountability and support. Here's how. Start a new topic in this forum called (say) "Your Name Daily Check In." Then every N day post a "reply" to that topic as to whether you stayed on habit. A simple "<font color="green">SUCCESS</font>" or "<font color="red">FAILURE</font>" (or your preferred euphemism if that's too harsh) is sufficient, but obviously you're welcome to write more if you want. On S-days just register that you're taking an S-day. You don't have to do this forever, just until you're confident you've built the habit. Feel free to check in weekly or monthly or sporadically instead of daily. Feel free also to track other habits besides No-s (I'm keeping this forum under No-s because that's what the vast majority are using it for). See also my <a href="/habitcal/">HabitCal</a> tool for another more formal (and perhaps complementary) way to track habits.
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by Larkspur » Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:55 pm
I'm glad you faced the bills and found your fears to be unfounded. I've been having anxiety too-- do you think it's the time of year? <G> This morning I started with a thing I had been avoiding, and I feel better. Whew. I like Mint for doing the money, but it doesn't write the actual painful checks.
Re friends, it is hard to find the sweet spot. I have a bestie but she is also bestie to at least two other people, so I have share her
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Most people aren't available during the day and evening tends to be family time, so that makes it a little harder too. Perhaps someone temperamentally like your husband? My BF is very similar to my DH emotionally-- I am optimistic, rather bouncy and definitely in touch with my feelings. My DH/BF are more gentle and introspective and often don't know how they feel. I can't imagine not knowing how you feel about something. It's the easiest thing in the world, right? But they have to think about it first. They are both in helping professions (psychologist, rabbi) and have great emotional regulation while I am more impulsive. It works, somehow.
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by lpearlmom » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:54 am
Thx Larks! DH is such a unique person. Would be hard to find someone like him. Maybe someday.
IF is going really well. I opened my window a little earlier today & kind of overdid it but not too badly. Appetite correction is real. I'm down about 7 more pounds so feeling pretty good about the whole process.
Had the perfect day today. Was beautiful outside and DH didn't have to work. The girls had friends sleepover so we made everyone a big breakfast then the girls rode their bikes while DH and I did stuff around the house. AFTer their friends left, both my girls offered to help me clean.
Afterwards DH and the girls did some gardening & practiced their ukulele playing. I got so much done--I deep cleaned my frig & freezer, cleaned my stove and tidied up the yard. Motivated by the fact that we have visitors coming next week!
Break-fast (1 pm): 1 cauliflower taco, a cookie, grapes, mocha
Dinner: CHipotle salad w/ chips, glass of wine
Dessert: piece of chocolate, waiter cookie, lollipop
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by ironchef » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:32 am
Wow, what a great day! Well done, Linda, so nice to hear you're doing so well!
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by lpearlmom » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:21 am
Thanks Iron!!
Well my sister just left about an hour ago. It was actually a good visit but I'm exhausted. She did absolutely nothing to upset me but I just felt really tense every time someone in my family did something that I imagined she didn't approve of. Her kids are just so dang polite and helpful and I was sure my kids didn't measure up. She is still the picture of perfection that I could and will never be able to live up to.
Whatever. I don't want her life, her family, her job or anything else. I'm very happy t have my everything but it's hard to feel judged--real or imagined. Anyway, I'm glad I made the effort to have a relationship with her. That's all I can do and her kids are sweet and I really like her husband.
Thanksgiving was actually perfect. The house looked beautiful, the food came out great and we all had a really fun time. If we could have just said goodbye last night, it would have been an ideal visit. Today was good but things were a little more tense at times.
Okay, moving on. I took a day off of If yesterday but continued today with the exception of cream in my coffee this morning which is a big no-no.
Breakfast: coffee w/cream
Dinner: (6pm) several tiny pieces of homemade pizza.
Dessert: 2 pieces of pie with ice cream, 1/2 piece of chocolate
Exercise: 3 hrs of hiking
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by lpearlmom » Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:26 am
Feeling a little better about the whole thing. It really wasn't so bad but I'm just completely exhausted today. I think I was tense for weeks up to the visit. I decided to take the day off from fasting and we just laid around and watched movies all day. I'm excited to get back to it tomorrow.
Also, I noticed nightly desserts sneaking back into my life. I think it's because a lot oh IF ppl eat a small desert but I think it's stalling my progress so back to sweets on the weekends only. Better for my health too, I'm sure!
Ate...a lot!
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by ironchef » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:21 am
Glad you are feeling more relaxed Linda, sounds like an amazing Thanksgiving celebration!
That's interesting that a lot of IF people have daily desserts and that's pushing you the same way. I think we all tend to "fit in" socially with those around us, with our eating as well as other things. Whenever I'm around my mother, I find it hard, because she constantly has small snacks - a cup of tea has her reaching for "a little something" to go with it. If we go away on holiday for 3 or 4 days, by the end of it I'm copying her behavior!
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by lpearlmom » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:52 am
Thanks iron! Yes I guess snacking is catching!
My weight is still stalled so I decided to try a 24 hr fast from yesterday to today. It wasn't bad at all. Just those last couple of hours felt intense. I really wasn't too hungry but just felt a strong urge to eat.
I did eat quite a bit but it was all healthy so it's all good. I'm really enjoying fasting. I have so much energy & clarity during the fasting time. It feels great! My window is 5 hrs right now but I'm thinking of changing it to a 2 hr window. It seems like it might work better for me. Nervous but excited!
Break-fast (4pm): hummus, crackers, avocado, yogurt w/ fruit & nuts
Dinner: Peking mushroom bowl over brown rice, glass wine
Desserts: yogurt, banana
Exercise: walking 25 mins
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by lpearlmom » Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:57 am
All is going pretty well. I did a 26 hr fast from Thursday to Friday night. Then we went out to dinner with friends. That meal tasted pretty amazing. I didn't overdo it but ate heartily.
I did kind of overdo it today however but not stressing about it. My weight seems to have plateaued but I'll get there.
Break-fast (3pm): yogurt, cashew butter, cheese crackers, cookies, mango
Dinner: two fish tacos, chips & dip
Dessert: 3 cookies w tea
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by ironchef » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:56 am
Yum mango! We are just coming in to mango season here and I loooove them!
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by ladybird30 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:11 am
lpearlmom wrote: My weight seems to have plateaued but I'll get there.
Plateaus can be regarded as opportunities to practice maintenance, at least that is what I tell myself.
You are now down an amazing 40+ lbs and deserve a pat on the back for all the effort you have put in.
Three meals a day - not too little not too much, but just right
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by Whosonfirst » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:09 am
ladybird30 wrote:lpearlmom wrote: My weight seems to have plateaued but I'll get there.
Plateaus can be regarded as opportunities to practice maintenance, at least that is what I tell myself.
You are now down an amazing 40+ lbs and deserve a pat on the back for all the effort you have put in.
Echo this comment. You're a success story. You wish to lose more weight, and I want to regrow my hair.
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by gingerpie » Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:45 pm
HI Linda,
Glad to hear you're doing well. Hopefully the weight moves for you soon but if not, at least you know you're living the life you want to lead!!
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by lpearlmom » Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:05 am
Thanks you guys ! Perspective is good. Keeping off the weight this long is a pretty good accomplishment I guess. I just need to trust the process & realize it's going to be slow going.
BreAk-fast (6pm): couple handful of chips w:guacamole
Dinner: bowl of veggie curry w/ brown rice, glass of wine
Dessert: larabar, lollipop
Exercise: 25 min walk, 10 mins HIITS
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by gingerpie » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:38 pm
I changed my window to 2 hrs and seems to be helping a lot.
Hi Linda,
You posted this on Kathleen's thread and I've been wondering if you mean everyday?
Hope all is well.
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by lpearlmom » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:07 pm
Hi ginger!
Yes I'm doing a daily 2 hr window from like 5:30-7:30 pm but in the weekends I'll do more like a 5 hr window. So far so good!
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by gingerpie » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:21 pm
Linda, glad to hear your doing well.
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I guess you've decided to go full-on IF then?
Do keep us posted on how things are going for you. It's always nice to hear from you.
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by lpearlmom » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:10 am
Thanks ginger! Yes I'm in deep! 😬
I'll definitely keep you posted. Only weighing monthly now.
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by lpearlmom » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:38 pm
Quick check in. I'm still doing IF. 8 weeks in and down 8 lbs so a nice healthy , slow weight loss.
There's so many misconceptions about IF, most of which I had before doing my own research. Now that I've been doing it for awhile it feels like the most freeing, amazing way of eating ever. NoS helped reduce my obsession with food/body size but IF has taken that to a whole new level.
Since this isn't an IF site, I won't go into it too much but if anyone is curious to know more, feel free to PM me. No lectures though of course, please.
Happy Holidays! My plan is to check-in about 1/mos.
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by gingerpie » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:40 pm
Hi Linda,
Glad your doing well. I look forward to reading your updated.
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by Merry » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:18 am
Happy Holidays, Linda!
Homeschool Mom and No S returnee as of 11-30-15.
2 years and counting on No-S.
29 lbs. down, 34 to go. Slow and steady wins the race.
Respect Moderation
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by automatedeating » Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:39 am
Hi Linda!
I LOVE seeing your progress posted. Wow! What a wonderful, honest, wise, and inspiring journey you have led! When I think over these years it boggles my mind to contemplate how many people you have encouraged. You're such a special lady.
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3/18-25.6; 8/18-24.5; 10/18-23.8;
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by Strawberry Roan » Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:19 pm
Let me agree with the posts above me, I have been amazed watching your progress.
Happy New Year to you and yours.
And Congrats on being such a good loser
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(and I share your fasting enthusiasm).
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by ironchef » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:59 am
Happy New Year Linda! Glad you are travelling so well, look forward to hearing from you along the way!
Best wishes, ic.
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by lpearlmom » Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:28 am
Ahh you guys are too sweet! I miss the daily check in but was spending a lot of time on the IF fb site already. Now that I’m feeling more comfortable with IF, I probably don’t need to spend so much time there. We’ll see.
Well I’m about 12 weeks in and have lost 10 lbs plus 2 that I took off right before I started. It’s a good amount but I’m a bit impatient to get out of the 160s once and for all. I’ve spent so much time going up and down from 160 to 170. I hit 160 briefly last year but it lasted about 3 days maybe.
I just need to be patient. A lot of ppl lose inches quicker than weight. I have lost about 3 inches from my stomach area. I’m able to wear some medium tops and my pants are feeling a bit looser so that’s good.
Other than that I’m still really enjoying IF and I’m a bit obsessed with the science behind it all. I even got DH on board and can tell he’s feeling good. He’s doing 16/8 while I’m doing 22/2 during the week and 19/5 on the weekends. I can’t believe I’ve gone from drinking venti mochas daily & snacking all day to drinking herbal tea all day long and only eating in a 2 hour window. I’ve even done some longer fasts and just finished a 30 hr fast just today in fact.
NoS really helped prepare me for IF though. I realize by reducing sugar and snacking you’re lowering insulin which allows fat to be released. If you’re just drinking coffee with cream between meals that’s not really spiking insulin much either. So skipping the sugar is a good idea. Wish I knew that before. If I ever get to maintenance, I’ll probably just do 19/5 and maybe have bulletproof coffee in the morning. Well that’s a long way off I’m sure!
Off to check everyone’s threads!
Break-fast(5pm): 4 street tacos (tiny) , guacamole & chips; two skinny margaritas
Dessert: small bowl of noosa yogurt, small piece of peppermint bark, lollipop
I don’t usually eat sweets during the week still but was really in the mood. Maybe due to the extra long fast.
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by oolala53 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:19 pm
Hi, Doll! Here for the long haul.
Count plates, not calories. 11 years "during"
Age 69
BMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8 3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
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by lpearlmom » Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:09 am
Hi oolala.
Still going strong here. Intermittent Fasting has been a godsend. I'm so grateful I found it and it's amazing how many lives it's changed. My reflux is almost gone, my mood is stable, the weight is slowly coming off finally, I'm experiencing Appetite Correction and my energy is good.
I know people don't understand it but it's all about lowering insulin levels so fat stores will be used instead of glycogen. Anyway, I can't imagine ever eating another way. Even my husband is on board but he understands the science behind it even more than I do.
Break-fast (5pm): a couple handfuls macadamia nuts, a couple pickles, glass of wine.
Dinner: steak, roasted bell peppers, cheesy corn
Dessert: 2 protein bars , glass of milk
Exercise: walk/run 30 mins
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by oolala53 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:18 am
Enjoy every bite!
Count plates, not calories. 11 years "during"
Age 69
BMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8 3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
9/17 22.8 (flux) 3/18 22.2
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by lpearlmom » Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:29 am
Sarcasm?
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by oolala53 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:44 am
Hey, give me more credit than that! No mater what people do, I think enjoying every bite should be foundational. That was one of Beck's first skills, even before formal dieting and it's been an aspiration of mine on No S. Besides, I bet you do enjoy your food even more, no? Enjoying less food more is the hallmark of a successful strategy.
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Count plates, not calories. 11 years "during"
Age 69
BMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8 3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
9/17 22.8 (flux) 3/18 22.2
2 yrs flux 6/20 22
1/21-23
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by lpearlmom » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:51 pm
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by automatedeating » Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:57 am
Linda -- wow, you sound like you are just doing so great! Wonderful to read your thread!
And I so know this isn't all about weight, but seriously, you must be one svelte mama right now! Love hearing about your reflux (finally) getting under control, your mood stability (I could use a bit of that right now, argh), and also having the energy to exercise!
So excited for you!
I've messed around with IF but never have stuck with it for long. My husband loves the idea and he even naturally kind of eats that way.
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3/18-25.6; 8/18-24.5; 10/18-23.8;
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by lpearlmom » Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:24 am
Thanks auto! It’s been a great experience for us. Tell your hubby to go for it! Not even close to svelte but maybe someday! ☺ï¸
Things are getting busier each day and I keep taking on more stuff. My neighbor is running for office & she’s asked me to be her volunteer coordinator. I’m also hosting a the protest in Phoenix in case Mueller gets fired. There’s 1700 + people signed up—yikes! I still have an indivisible group that meets twice a month and I’m a liaison for my legislative district. Too bad I’m not getting paid for all this!
Tonight my daughter got inducted into the National junior honors program and so we went out to dinner to celebrate. DH is a super intellectual and our dinner conversations are never dull. A woman came up to us and complimented our girls on their ability to talk about high level subjects so intelligently. That’s actually not the first time it’s happened. I feel really fortunate to have girls that can think critically about the world. They drive me crazy but I’m also really proud of them.
I’m 13 weeks into IF and really beginning to notice some good results. Some people lose a fair amount at the beginning and it can be discouraging but lately I starting to really notice my stomach is looking flatter and my clothes are looser. I won’t way for a few more weeks but I’m definitely feeling like I’m headed in the right direction.
Tomorrow we leave for LA for a family super bowl gathering. Can’t wait!
Break-fast (7pm): fatoosh salad, beet salad; ahi tuna bowl, cauliflower steaks; two glasses of wine (we shared everything).
Dessert: praline pudding (shared)
Exercise: 25 min walk w dogs.
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by Octavia » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:28 pm
Hi Linda,
I love reading about your success. Thanks so much for sharing this stuff. IF is fascinating - the idea that your moods are more stable, and your appetite has corrected itself...brilliant! It’s funny how we start snacking in an attempt to deal with both of those things. We think snacks keep our blood sugar stable, so we’ll be less hungry and anxious! I think that I started oversnacking in response to the standard advice on anxiety. And yet, I’m sure I recall reading in one of Dr Claire Weekes’ books that if you’re having a hypoglycaemic attack and food isn’t available to bring quick relief, then your own liver will release the sugar your body needs. I may have got the science wrong there - it’s around 20 years since I read these words - but the gist of it was that your body can and will rebalance itself, should you feel shaky. I can certainly go for 14 hours between dinner and breakfast the next morning, so could probably manage OK during the day. It’s a daunting prospect though. But then, I’m still early on in my No S journey so probably not quite ready to start experimenting yet.
Can you recommend a good book on IF?
All the best
Octa x
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by lpearlmom » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:07 pm
Hi Octavia! IF is really interesting stuff. I don't know much about hypoglycemia but Dr Fung does say that ppl that have it will need to be careful when Fasting. He recommends listening to your body and it will tell you if you need to eat something (for those ppl).
I know skipping meals sounds daunting but after the first 2-3 weeks it's not a big deal at all. Once your body starts using fat as fuel you won't experience much hunger. Now I don't really start to get hungry till around 20 hrs and even then it's minor. I fast anywhere from 17-30 hrs no problem.
Some great books are:
Delay, don't deny by Gin Stephenson
The Obesity Code by Jason Fung (very sciencey)
Appetite Correction by Bert Herring
I really like Dr Fung because he's so flexible in his thinking. He doesn't try to claim that everyone should fast but he does see amazing results with his patients and says it's a great choice for people that want to give it a try. He also says do what works for you and make it fit into your lifestyle. He's got videos and podcasts that you can check out too.
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by clarinetgal » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:12 pm
Hi, Linda!👋🻠It looks like you’re doing great!
Committing to a fresh start, with 3-4 plates and no snacking.
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by lpearlmom » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:06 am
Thanks Heather!
We drove to Los Angeles today and I knew I couldn't handle eating fast food so we got some sandwiches and snacks for the drive. So much more enjoyable than Taco Bell. It's funny how particular one gets when eating only one meal a day.
I'm really proud of DH for sticking to IF. I wasn't sure how serious he was but when we got to LA, he told his mom he couldn't eat "because his window was closed". So excited he's committed to this because I know it'll help with his health issues.
Break-fast (2pm): tea latte, BBQ pork sandwich.
Snack: protein bar, couple handfuls of macadamia nuts
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CW: 172
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by automatedeating » Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:34 pm
Linda -- I'm sure you have this somewhere, but what is your goal weight? You've got to be getting close (unless you are as short as me, haha) Top of my BMI for normal weight is 136.
Also, the 16/8 your husband is doing is very similar to my husband's natural rhythm. Cool.
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by lpearlmom » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:09 pm
Hi auto
I am a shorty (5'3") but I also tend to have a lot of muscle and I'm broad shouldered so I don't look good when I'm too skinny. I remember in college I was about 115 lbs for a brief period and my head looked way too big for my body.
Anyway my goal weight is 135 or a size 6. A lot of ppl doing IF lose inches before pounds so it's better to go by your clothing size than the number on the scale. This is because fasting increases HCG so you're gaining some muscle at the same time that you're losing fat. It's also been shown to increase bone density. I'm probably about a size 10 right now so still a ways to go.
So cool about your accidental IF husband. We're naturally less hungry in the morning so I think ppl that haven't bought into the whole "breakfast is the most important meal of the day" thing tend to do this naturally like my thin MIL.
Have a great weekend!
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by Octavia » Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:59 pm
Thanks for the book recommendations, Linda. I like the sound of this Dr Fung! Very encouraging to hear how you’re managing with IF. No S certainly has a fasting element, I think - we learn to fast between meals, and to focus on NOT eating rather than lists of foods we CAN eat. It does change your focus away from eating, where many diets make you think about eating all the time. When I dabbled briefly with IE, I was constantly checking in on my levels of hunger. And what you focus on grows, I find!
Well today, with it being an S day, I haven’t exactly fasted. The slippery slope started with a chocolate bunny. Later it was a PAIR of cream donuts. But I used to have similar splurges once a week before, and eat too much the rest of the time! So I must be moving in the right direction. I need to get lots more good N days under my belt before I take things a step further. But in the meantime I’m going to read Dr Fung. Thanks for your help!
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by lpearlmom » Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:23 am
Sure thing! Yes Dr Fung actually says the 3 meal a day with no snacks and only occasional sweets way is why we didn't see as much Obesity in the 50s & 60s. And for some ppl a NoS lifestyle is enoigh to get them to a healthy weight. Unfortunately not for me but it was the beginning of this journey for me and led me to IF so I am grateful for that.
Good luck with your S days. I never could get them to a good place. I still save sweets for the weekends though (mostly) although many IFers do not. Let me know how you like the book!
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by lpearlmom » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:23 pm
Had a good weekend in LA but feel a bit bloated from too many sweets and too much wine.
I was kind of annoyed because nobody even commented on my weight loss. Everyone was focused on my newly skinny sil who recently became a vegan. She a bit defensive about the whole thing too. I asked her and her husband if they were still not doing the “vegan thing†and she replied “it’s not a thing, we just don’t eat animals.†Well so sorry. I guess she thought i was implying it was just a phase. I was just trying to make conversation.
My vegetarian teenage daughter turned to her and said “well how noble of you†in a sarcastic tone. For once I appreciated my daughters smart Alec ways. 😄 This is the side I really dislike about veganism. I know not all vegans are like this but a lot of them pull this superiority cr*p. It’s like you know you were just eating meat like last year right? Ugh, I get the feeling she’s secretly bitter about having to give up cheese.
Anyway, I was feeling so good about myself when I went to LA but now I’m wondering if all my progress is in my head. I definitely don’t want to weigh or measure yet but will do so next week. I guess I’ll find out then.
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by Imogen Morley » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:31 pm
Frankly, I've yet to meet a vegan who isn't a neurotic personality. They tend to have that unnerving, perfectionist streak that just irks me. I'm not against vegans by definition, but I work with several and they're downright annoying, not only when it comes to eating habits. Just sayin'. You cracked me up with the cheese comment! That's what I think about my colleagues when they're being negative again.
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by lpearlmom » Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:26 am
I know Imogen. It’s so irksome.
Well I weighed myself and was up a couple of pounds. I’m trying not to focus on my weight so much but ugh I feel like I’ve been in the 160s forever. I almost just want to fast till I see a 150 anything but I’m sure my family would start to worry if I didn’t eat dinner with them. I do want to try a 3 day fast at some point though. We shall see.
Break-fast(5:30pm): Thai peanut chicken bowl with brown rice and Asian slaw, an apple.
Dessert: cup of golden milk, protein bar, plain yogurt with banana
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by automatedeating » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:35 am
Ha! I would be extremely bitter if I had to give up cheese! It will remain forever on my "beautiful foods" list.
I fasted once for 5 days, and I'm not even practiced at IF the way you are now. It was hard for the first 3 days, then day 4 was not so hard, then day 5 was hard again (I think because I knew I was almost done).
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by lpearlmom » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:10 am
automatedeating wrote:Ha! I would be extremely bitter if I had to give up cheese! It will remain forever on my "beautiful foods" list.
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Totally! And she was always a huge cheese lover so I don't doubt it's true. I'm impressed you did s 5 day fast. What on earth compelled you to do that without any previous fasting experience? The longest I've gone is 30 hours. I plan to work up to some longer ones though.
Well I'm up another pound. Oh dear. I woke up at 3 am and was just wide awake. It might be a side effect of fasting not sure. Probably didn't help with my weight. I'm learning sleep and stress can really effect our weight. I need to take up yoga or something.
Break/fast(5pm): an apple, pickle, handful of nuts, blueberries
Dinner: mushroom ragout over cheesy grits and topped with an egg
Dessert: small bowl of whipped frozen bananas (so good)
Exercise: 30 mins walk/jog
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by lpearlmom » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:03 am
Today was a bit tough. Got in a huge fight with my daughter on the way to taking her to school this morning. Then I got a lecture from my husband on how badly I handled it. He's right but I know that and don't really need him to tell me. Oh well, we've all made up now. Parenting is no joke.
I went to lunch with some fellow activists that I only know through fb. It's always a bit nerve wracking meeting some irl for the first time but it went really well. In fact we're meeting again for drinks tomorrow night.
Since I had lunch, I'm skipping dinner which will give me a longer fast of about 26 hrs since I won't eat till 5 tomorrow. I'm pretty glad about that as I'm hoping it'll get things moving. I'm only losing .58 lbs/week according to my Happy Scale app. At this rate I'll reach my goal sometime in November. Not bad actually but I'd still like to be at about 1 lb/week.
Break-fast (12:45pm): Cobb salad
Snack: iced latte (too sweet so only drank 1/2), protein bar, couple bites of banana
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by automatedeating » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:10 am
Sorry about the fight!!! When that happens at my house, I have learned that I will want to eat junk all day! Crazy emotional eating urges. I seek dopamine, lol.
Have fun with your new friends at drinks tomorrow!
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by lpearlmom » Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:48 am
Thanks auto. I swear that girl just likes to argue. 😒 She tried to pick a fight with me while I was cooking dinner tonight but luckily I handled it fine and all is well.
I finished a 25 hr fast today and I notice that I really start to feel the effects of Ketosis around hour 22. I just feel really in the zone and happy. Maybe that’s a sign that I need longer fasts. I must be really insulin/leptin resistant. Anyway I was really hungry when I opened my window but you don’t binge like one might think. Appetite Correction really kicks in and I eat a reasonable amount.
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Break-fast (4pm): couple handfuls of macadamia nuts, small bowl of olives, pickles, kombucha
Dinner: Asian nachos with steaks, glass of wine
Dessert: glass of milk, protein bar
Exercise: 25 mins walk dogs, 1 min HIITs
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by lpearlmom » Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:20 am
Oh boy I’m pmsing so was super hungry so opened my window a little early. I ate more than I have in awhile. Oh well I’ll feel better after I fast awhile tomorrow.
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Break-fast (4pm): curry chicken salad, olives, nuts
Dinner: potstickers, a couple of spring rolls, glass of wine
Dessert: protein bar, glass of milk
Exercise: 25 min walk.
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by Octavia » Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:23 pm
Hope you have a good day, Linda, and the PMS eases a bit. Intrigued by your Frozen Banana Dream Whip (back on Wednesday) How do you do that? 😊
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by lpearlmom » Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:34 pm
Hi Octavia! Basically you just throw in a bunch of frozen bananas in a food processor till it gets to the texture of soft serve ice cream. I usually throw in some nut butter and maybe some chocolate chips but here’s some other ideas:
https://chocolatecoveredkatie.com/2016/ ... m-healthy/
Enjoy!
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by Octavia » Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:44 pm
Thanks, Linda! ðŸ’
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by worth it » Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:56 pm
Linda,
Thanks for that link. I’m intrigued about the mint- chip version, since that’s my sons favorite flavor of ice cream. I wonder if it would pass his “taste test�
Hope you are having a great weekend!
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by oolala53 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:00 pm
I've been seeing a therapist temporarily and she wanted to tell me her take on one reason I have had such difficulty with teens at school. She said it's their psychological job to separate from adults close to them and will tangle more with those who seem to get in the way. I know I have some responsibility because even my not so easy going colleagues don't have the run-ins I do, but she wanted me to feel a little less perturbed about it. You can take yourself off that hook, too! And it's unlikely you're doing any irreparable damage to your relationship now or later, and not to her self-esteem, either. They sound like the really love you, and your squabbles are just that. Kids can be forgiving, too! Whereas, some of my students won't even say hi or look at me walking around campus, and I walk around feeling wounded again when I see some of the "worst." Not proud of that, but it's the truth.
BTW, I saw on another thread that you felt an 8-hour window was too long. I suspected that for me from my history because, boy, could I pack a lot of food into eight hours already! I thought after No S it would be okay, and tried it during my experiments. Could still pack it in, and my food choices drifted back to pre No S indiscretions, shall we say. If a person is going to do it, it seems longer overnight fasts can help. Also, I think that 8-hour author was probably more like Reinhard. He just needed some kind of reining in and that was it. And not burdened by having ever absolutely having their blood run cold looking at themselves in a bathing suit in the mirror. Paradoxical but true.
Yay for fridges and blenders showing us the shades of beauty in the banana!
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by lpearlmom » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:28 am
Np! Enjoy the recipe. DH & I love it but to be honest our kids don’t really eat it. They’ll eat all kinds of interesting foods but when it comes to dessert they tend to want just straigh5 up chocolate.
Thanks for supportive words oolala! It’s definitely them trying grapple with their identity and finding their independence. I just wish I could act more like the adult all the time. Sometimes. I do fine but other times I’m screaming and yelling just like I’m one of them. Not pretty but you’re right they are resilient and seem more than fine the next day. Luckily their dad is pretty patient and good at being the adult. I swear I think I stopped maturing at age 12 or something. Oh well all the signs point to them being good kids so I’ll just keep on trying to do the right thing.
I think you’re right about the 8 hour window only working for certain types. Seems to work well for a lot of men. Maybe because they generally have less food issues? I’m going to try a couple alternate fasting days next week. Excited but nervous. I’ve never gone a complete day without eating. I’ve gone 30 hrs but that’s from breakfast one day to dinner the next.
Today was good. I went canvassing in my neighborhood for a couple of hours and came back around 3:30. I opened my window without a specific plan In mind and just kind snacked on stuff. Never a great idea. I ended up being too full for dinner and just had a few chips instead. I think it’s okay though. I need to be able to have a few days of that now and then.
Some good news is that our old renters moved out. They were a bit of a nightmare because they were “friends†and expected all kids of special treatment up to the very end. After the moved up we put some money into the place and have now rented it for $200/mos more than before. Plus we don’t know them so that e tea pressure is off.
Break-fast (3:30): nuts, small plate of steak nachos, Lara bar, glass of milk, chocolate covered pretzels
Dinner: chips & guacamole
Exercise: walked door to 🚪 2 hrs
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by worth it » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:16 am
Lol on your kids just wanting chocolate-ha! Probably my kid too.
Also, totally awesome about the new renters! The extra income and anonymity will hopefully “loosen†things up a bit.
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by oolala53 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:57 am
I saw another therapist for awhile; he said most of his patients are cases of "arrested development." He didn't say it in a critical way; for whatever reason, they just don't move forward emotionally from that stage. Most are very functional and even very successful in other ways. But they get ruffled easily and feel a sense of inadequacy. I think a fair number of people feel the inadequacy; their wires aren't as easily tripped.
As you can see, I've had my share- maybe more than my share- of therapy over the last few years. Oh, well.
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by lpearlmom » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:06 am
That makes sense oolala and I can think of plenty of reasons for it. I just don’t how to get past it.
Today was pretty good. We had our one year anniversary celebration for our activist group. Was a lot fun. I can’t believe how much my life has changed in the last year.
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Break-fast (4:30pm): 3 tacos, chips & guacamole, skinny margarita
Dessert: 2 protein bars, glass milk
Tomorrow my plan is to do yoga at 5:30 am and fast for the whole day. Little nervous.
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by lpearlmom » Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:27 am
Well I completed my 42 hour fast today and it wasn’t bad at all. Yesterday was a little tough because the yoga class made me hungry but only for a little bit. It was weird not eating dinner but DH was at work so nobody even noticed.
I thought DH would be concerned that I was fasting so long but he just kind of shrugged when I told him. He says he has trouble just fasting till lunch. I think I really enjoy the challenge of it too. After feeling like food ruled me for so long, it’s nice to feel so in control especially since I’m past the white knuckling stage. Today I really wasn’t hungry till about the last hour. I think I was just really excited to eat. Tomorrow I’m going to do another 42 hr fast.
Oh and the yoga was INTENSE! I sweated like crazy and all I could think about was how I didn’t want to be hot anymore but boy did I feel relaxed afterwards and I slept better than I have in a very long time. So yes going to try it again. I think it’s the challenge of it again too. Who knew I was so into pushing myself?
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Break-fast (2pm): salad with avocados , beets and 🥒, handful of crackers.
Dinner: turkey burgers, carrot fries and aioli , glass of wine
Dessert: perfect protein bar, 🥛
Exercise: 20 min walk w dogs
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by lpearlmom » Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:52 am
Was going to start another long fast today but did a long bike ride and was too hungry. Plus DH gave me chocolate covered strawberries for Valentine’s Day!
My legs are killing me and I’m thinking there’s something about exercising so hard when fasting that’s causing it. I probably need to up my electrolyte intake next time. It’s pretty painful and not normal for me.
Break-fast (5:15 pm) larabar, handful of macadamia nuts
Dinner: small late of chilaquiles
Dessert: 3choc strawberries ðŸ“, 4 small cookies, glass 🥛
Exercise: 2 hr bike ride
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by worth it » Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:02 pm
Hi Linda,
Ugh. I'm sorry to hear about your pain when exercising. I'm sure its super-frustrating.
I enjoy hearing about your positive experiences with fasting and think you have some great awareness about your own body's needs. I know you'll figure exercise thing out so you can continue moving your body comfortably.
But, at least you got a cute gift for Valentines day! Here's a yay for chocolate covered strawberries!!! YUM!
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by lpearlmom » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:57 am
Thanks worth and I’m sorry if my fasting comment on your thread was a trigger for you! I know it’s not right for everyone.
I couldn’t go through with another 42 hr fast today. Too much stress plus pms. I’ll try for tomorrow or maybe again on Monday.
Having financial stress. Nothing immediate just worrying about the future stuff. I had lunch with my friend yesterday and she’s & her husband have been so much more responsible than us. I can’t undo the choices we already made though. At least we’ve enjoyed our life.
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Break-fast (5pm): macadamia nuts, blueberries, kombucha/wine
Dinner: 3 sliders w slaw & 🥑
Dessert: protein bar, glass of milk 🥛
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by automatedeating » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:03 pm
I'm right there with ya on the financial stress. Nothing gigantic, but I kind of kick myself for so much wasted money that could have been kids' college fund. Or even $ for vacations.
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by worth it » Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:46 am
Hi Linda,
No worries on your post- I wasn’t triggered... just made me think, which was good.
I just wanted to share that over the past 7 years, while I have been RUTHLESS in working to achieve our financial goals...I have certainly paid a price for my choices. It cost me time away from my family, especially my son, and may have contributed to causing me some serious health issues that I’m now trying to reverse. In hindsight, I wish I would’ve been more balanced in this area. I guess I just wanted to say to not be so hard on yourselves. Even those that seem to “have it all together†have paid a price.
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by lpearlmom » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:21 am
Hi auto & worth. Ugh, I hate money. DH makes good money and we should be in a much better position than we are now but we are both horrible with money. We’ve just spent too much and saved too little. I think after being so poor through medical school & residency, we went a little crazy for much too long. We’re much better now though. We have a budget and track everything. We save for college and have a 401k but I don’t know if it’s too little; too late. I need to tackle this issue head on but I honestly don’t know where to start. 😱
It’s always something though right? My kids are healthy & thriving, I have a good marriage, my social life is good, the scale (slowly) is moving in the right direction. Now I just need to get this last piece of the puzzle figured out but in the meantime I can’t wait for life to be perfect to start enjoying it.
And worth thank you for that perspective. I wanted to be home for my kids and I got to do that. I don’t feel like I didn’t spend enough time with them so that is something.
Today has been a bit emotional. The shooting in Florida has really hit me hard. I intend to stay engaged and try to work to on improving gun safety for our kids. I know we can do better. We have to at least try. Our kids deserve that much.
Sorry for such a somber post. Tomorrow will be better.
26 hrs into a 43 hour fast!
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by Octavia » Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:14 pm
Thinking about you, Linda. ðŸ’
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by lpearlmom » Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:53 am
Thank you Octavia!
Today has been better. Everyone was home and that’s always nice. Went to dinner with friends and broke my fast at 43 hrs. Our friends like to eat as much as we do and so we ordered an obscene amount of food. It was nice to just have fun for awhile and forget everything else. My weight was at an all time low but I imagine it’ll go up a bit tomorrow. It’s okay. I was just really excited to see it in the 150s, even if it’s just for 5 mins. I know I’m headed in the right direction. I’ll get there.
Break/fast (2pm): oysters, sushi, Brussels sprouts, French fries, poke, shrimp Thai salad, avocado toast, wine, cocktail.
Dessert: large gelato â¤ï¸
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by automatedeating » Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:02 am
150's!? Go girl!
And a 43-hr fast? Wow!
And worth it's comment hit home with me......being financially "wise" has costs too. We only have this one life to live, and saving $$ is only one part of a satisfying life. I could go on, but I think many of us are on a "synched" wavelength here.
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by lpearlmom » Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:50 am
I get you auto. I remember once asking DH if he thought we made the right decision about something and he said “it doesn’t matter, because will make it be the right choiceâ€. Or something like that but it really stuck with me.
Ugh, decided to treat myself to a chai iced blended and boy was that a mistake. I haven’t had caffeine in several weeks and I guess it still doesn’t agree with me. Then we went out to dinner and nothing really tasted good to me. Fasting seems to have a way of changing ones tastes & quality starts to become really important. Of course I ate anyway and now I’m feeling a bit ill. Planning on a long fast tomorrow and looking forward to it.
19/6.5
Break-fast (1pm): chai, macadamia nuts, avocado toast
Dinner: taco salad, chips & salsa, skinny margarita
Planning on taking a 5:30 am yoga class.
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by worth it » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:44 am
Linda,
Congratulations on getting closer to your goals! The 150’s sound awesome!!
Sorry that your treat turned out not to be worth it, but hopefully the discomfort didn’t I last too long.
Hope this next fast brings you lots of energy and peace!
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by lpearlmom » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:49 am
Thank you worth! My long fast didn’t go as well as usual for some reason.
I fasted all yesterday but it didn’t feel as good as the other long fasts I’ve done. I did hot yoga yesterday and was starving by dinner. Usually I’m just a little hungry and it goes away quickly but this was much more persistent. I should probably have listened to my body but I’m stubborn.
I woke up feeling tired and cranky and all I could think about was eating. I was really craving a hamburger but instead got a poke bowl and a smoothie. It didn’t really satisfy me though so I picked at a couple other things. Again not listening to my body. I think I see a life lesson here somewhere.
After I ate I was v tired and my stomach was a bit upset. I wasn’t really hungry for dinner but ate some anyway. I’m learning that sugary foods and chocolate don’t make me feel too good. Also if I’m really craving a hamburger I should probably go ahead and have one.
Maybe I should just stick to the shorter fasts for awhile. I’ve had zero issues with those.
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Break-fast (1:30): poke bowl, 2 smoothies, protein bar ; lollipop, handful nuts
Dinner: very small bowl of chicken pot pie, glass of milk
Dessert: piece of chocolate, glass wine /kombucha
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by lpearlmom » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:49 am
Today went much better even though my weight is up a couple pounds. I swear my body does not want to be below 160 lbs. I remember spending a lot of time here after my 2nd baby was born too. I’m sure persistence will pay off eventually.
Was a bit of a rough day. I found out an old friend of mines husband passed away from a heart attack. Scary to think how hard my life will suddenly be if that happens to me but I can’t let fear of the unknown keep me from enjoying the present. I will cross that bridge if I come to it.
On the upside my girls have been great lately. They’ve been getting along so well and even working out the few fights they do have in their own. I’ll enjoy it while it lasts.
I tried to keep my window under an hour today but realized I’d feel resentful if I closed it before I was completely satisfied. I kept it open a bit longer for myâ€dessertâ€. Thinking about fasting all day tomorrow but not sure.
23/1.5
Break-fast (7pm): cauliflower po boy, French fries, chips w spinach dip, glass of wine /kombucha
Dessert: protein bar, glass of milk 🥛
Exercise: 25 min walk, 2 HIITs
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by worth it » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:46 pm
Hi Linda,
I love hearing how in tune and relaxed/at ease/flexible you are with feelings and your body. It gives me something to be hopeful about.
Glad the girls are doing great! The best news is that the tools you have been teaching them are paying off- being able to sort through their issues on their own is such a wonderful gift they'll be able to move forward with and use throughout their lives. Being in HR and having to deal with employee issues ALL the time, I'll tell you that there are A LOT of people that never had to use/gain that skill (which is a major disadvantage in their professional and probably personal life). I'm sure you know some too...It's frightening.
Also, sorry to hear about your friend's husband. Its so hard not to let those feelings get out of control and cause anxiety for the present. I'm still trying to learn that.
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by lpearlmom » Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:34 am
Thanks worth!
My girls had a doozy of a fight and my oldest ended up getting into serious trouble with us (for purposely destroying some of her sisters stuff). For once she’s taking it seriously and I can see it’s a bit of a wake up call for her. She leaves on a class trip for Europe on Monday. She’s just lucky we’re still letting her go. I’m going to miss her.
I think I’m going to back off a bit on the 42 hr fasts. Physically it’s no problem, but mentally it’s tough not eating for an entire day. I just really enjoy eating dinner with my family. Besides it doesn’t seem to be helping with my weight loss. I’m still hovering just above 160 lbs. it’s annoying but I just need to be patient. On the upside I bought a size 8 jeans and a small shirt for my next goal size down. The pants fit already and the small shirt was just a tad too snug. Pretty unbelievable to think when I started this journey I was in a size 2x. How did I let myself get so big??
21/2
Break-fast (6pm): macadamia nuts, olives, glass of wine/kombucha
Dinner: Spanish tortilla, fennel & orange salad
Dessert: perfect bar, glass of milk, lollipop
Exercise: hot yoga 1 hr 15 mins
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CW: 172
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by lpearlmom » Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:20 am
Trying to relax and trust the process a bit instead of micromanaging everything. Going to try to wait a couple weeks before weighing again. It’s just too frustrating.
21/2
Break-fast (5:30): macadamia nuts, fennel salad w/avocado
Dinner: Thai lettuce wraps , wine/kombucha
Dessert : perfect bar , glass of milk
Exercise: 25 min walk w dogs
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by lpearlmom » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:50 am
Been a stressful few days. My daughter left for Europe yesterday on a class trip so I spent the weekend helping her get ready. Then I had to get her up at 4am to take her to the airport yesterday. And after that I had to get everything ready for my tax appointment.
On my way to my tax appointment I got pulled over for an expired registration. I didn’t realize it had expired (long story). Luckily, I got off with a warning. We got a refund and even left with a bottle of wine. (My accountant loves wine).
It’s crazy how stressed out I get every year around tax season. Its such a relief to walk out of there and be done with it. I felt happy today for the first time in weeks. It was a beautiful day and we set outside by the pool and had dinner. Instead of feeling overwhelmed by my house, I told myself that my house can be as clean as I wanted it to because I’m in charge of that. I found myself cleaning things that I’ve been putting off for awhile. My mood was better and DH & I got along better. Not that we fight a lot but when I’m stressed out it’s hard to be light hearted.
So weird how a change in attitude changes everything. Hopefully the good mood will continue.
21/3
Break-fast (4pm): nuts, olives, marinated mushrooms , kombucha/wine
Dinner: 1 piece of moussaka, 1 piece toast
Dessert: small piece of chocolate, 1 shortbread biscuit
Exercise: 25 min walk
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CW: 172
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by worth it » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:33 pm
Linda,
I’m guessing that by now you are missing your daughter like crazy, but I hope the good mood has continued.
We are also done with our taxes, which is such a relief.
So I thought it would be nosy and ask what the kombucha/wine is. Is it something you make yourself or is there an actual product that you buy? And more so do you drink it for a specific health benefit or just because you’re really like the taste of it? No pressure to respond, I just wondered what it was now that I’ve seen it in your post a few times.
p.s. I have tried the perfect bar because of your post- lol! It’s really pretty good and has a lot of nutrition in it for those days when I need something more substantial for dessert.
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by clarinetgal » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:15 am
I hope your daughter has a great time in Europe, and i’m Glad you got your taxes done! It looks like you’re doing great!
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by lpearlmom » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:52 am
Hey worth,
I do miss my daughter but I feel a little guilty about the fact that I’m also enjoying the peace & quiet. She fights a lot with me and her sister and is always pissed off about something. Just normal teenage stuff I know. But I am excited to see her and hear about her vacation.
Oh and yeah I just mix white wine with kombucha. It reminds me of wine coolers & kombucha is suppose to be good for the gut. I guess it can’t hurt at least.
My month weigh in is in a couple of days and I definitely don’t feel like I’ve lost any weight this month. Maybe even gained a little. We went out to dinner twice over the weekend and just ate way too much. It’s a little discouraging but I’m going to hang in there. I did go to a party last weekend and a friend I hadn’t seen in awhile told me I looked “amazingâ€. That was a nice feeling.
21/3
Break-fast (6:00pm): macadamia nuts, olives, pickles, glass wine
Dinner: 2 fish tacos, chips & salsa
Dessert: small bowl of chocolate chips
Exercise: 25 min walk dogs
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by worth it » Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:27 am
Linda,
You don’t just look amazing, you ARE amazing for being a source of encouragement for all of us on this board (and no doubt, many others in your life).
So, if it doesn’t cause anxiety, I say skip the scale this time around and pick a time to weigh when you are feeling especially skinny. This journey is all about shining a spotlight on your victories- maybe this once you can ignore this marker progress you were hoping for? Just a thought.
As far as your daughter, I actually believe it’s healthy to feel the way you do. We don’t love every single thing about our kids all the time (or at least I don’t). Im guessing that the separation can give you a perspective to use with future encounters with her.
Interesting mixture with the wine and kombucha... I used to LOVE wine coolers, but I found that overly sweet drinks tend to give my heartburn. I’m guessing this is not as sweet, but is still bubbly. Mmmm.
In the meantime, keep enjoying the peace and quiet and keep your head up, girl!
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by lpearlmom » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:35 am
Oh wow thank you worth. That means a lot to me â˜ºï¸ I thought about skipping g the scale. It I was just at that point where I needed to know. So I was up 1.8 lbs from my recent lowest weight but down .2 from my last weigh in. I also haven’t lost any inches.
At first I was slightly disappointed but then I actually felt pretty good about it. Last time I got close to 160 I did it by white knuckling it through a low calorie kind of thing and I was only able to stay there for about 30 seconds. The fact that my weight is stable here while eating in a thoroughly enjoyable way means this is a a more permanent weight. Probably a new set point. Now I just have to have patience till I get to my next set point. But more importantly I feel good and really enjoying my new way of eating. I will get there when my body is ready.
I did start to miss my daughter the last couple of days but realized how tense I started to get before she got back. It did make me think about how to handle things better in the future. I really want the house to remain peaceful. I think I need to shut things down quicker instead of engaging. When she’s fishing, I always bite.
Oh yeah the kombucha isn’t very sweet so like a better version of the wine cooler. I can’t do a lot of bubbles either but I just do a little kombucha and the wine mixed it mellows the bubbles. Btw, there’s only one brand I really like. It’s called The Kombucha. It’s not too strong.
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by worth it » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:42 pm
Linda,
Not having to white knuckle anything where eating and weight are concerned is one of the biggest victories that I aspire to- that is so awesome (not to mention the new low weight that you are experiencing)!
I continually appreciate your positive outlook and attitude towards eating, but really it’s more towards yourself, now that I think about it. Overall, it sounds like confidence, which is something we probably lacked around eating when we all first started No S. The “magic†recipe seems to be consistency and the passage of time. It’s ironic because I share this message a lot with leaders and their colleagues or employees regarding the building of trust in their working relationships. I say something like, “trust comes from doing what you say you’re going to do over and over again, throughout a (generally long)period of time.†Isn’t that what you’re doing for yourself? AND trusting in yourself seems to naturally breed your confidence.
Very cool- Thanks for continuing to share your successes with us!
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by ladybird30 » Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:10 am
lpearlmom wrote:
The fact that my weight is stable here while eating in a thoroughly enjoyable way means this is a a more permanent weight. Probably a new set point. Now I just have to have patience till I get to my next set point. But more importantly I feel good and really enjoying my new way of eating. I will get there when my body is ready.
Words I will take notice of.
Three meals a day - not too little not too much, but just right
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by lpearlmom » Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:54 am
Hey worth! Yes building trust is pretty much what I did the first year of NoS. Even though I didn’t lose a lot that year, it was a great confidence builder. I learned I could be trusted with food and I did in fact have discipline and sticktoitness. With IF I sometimes feel like I have a superpower. I have so much more discipline than I ever thought.
That being said my weight is still at a standstill and it’s making me a bit impatient. I’m constantly tweaking things and adding longer fasts. I wish I could relax a bit and just “trust the processâ€. I also wish I could let go of my scale focus and focus on enjoying the journey a bit more. Because it is a thoroughly enjoyable and rewarding journey.
I think part of my issue is that I’ve told ppl about my IF ways and I feel like they’re watching me wondering why I’m not losing more weight. Still I must be losing inches because a lot of ppl have commented about my weight lately. I’ll get there & I’ll try to enjoy the process in the meantime.
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Break-fast (11:30): salad, chicken with mushrooms, mashed vegs, glass wine
Snack: couple bites of butter chicken
Dessert: kind bar and sf chai
I don’t know why I keep drinking stuff w/ sweetener when I’ve read it still spikes your insulin and is probably horrible for you. Habit I guess.
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CW: 172
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by Octavia » Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:26 am
I love that word, Linda - sticktoitness. No S really does build these qualities. Trust is so important: I’ve only lost a pound a month since I started 4 months ago, but I’m not in a hurry to make adaptations - I feel I need to get more water under the bridge, just keep trusting, keep doing it. When I get impatient about my weight I try to remember all the other benefits.
I love what Worth said about how to build trust in companies. Consistency and the passing of time. Great words.
Sounds like you may have slimmed down a lot, if people are noticing - even if the scale seems to be stuck! Hope you keep on enjoying the process. Doing your fasts sounds like an unobtrusive and habit-friendly routine. It’s something I will definitely consider for the future. Thanks for sharing your journey!
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by Whosonfirst » Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:28 am
You're doing great! 48-50 lbs. "ain't" no joke. Keep up the good work. Enjoy your daughters, you'll miss having them at home at some point. Even dad's miss them.
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by worth it » Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:28 am
Lol about the “sweetener†comment!
I still have sips of Diet Coke every now and then during my meals, and truthfully it tastes kind of gross now that I don’t have it much, but I still keep drinking it- HA! 🙃
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by automatedeating » Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:10 am
Linda -- just want to say that I get how you could feel that you have to "represent" IF, but I also want you to know that I hate that you have to feel that way!!!! Different things work for different people at different times and in different places in their lives, so I would never think that IF would need to work for you every week to make it an option to consider. Don't know if that makes sense, but I just want you to know that I totally support you, and I am cool with you letting it all hang out as much as you want. Haha, except you don't have much to hang out anymore.
Just keep takin' care of you, Babe!
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by Friyay » Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:34 am
Hey Linda, you've had exactly the weight loss I'm *hoping* to see for myself, so there you go. You've already lived what I consider my best case scenario!
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by oolala53 » Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:48 pm
Happy Easter 🇠what sounds great is that you’re enjoying the process and feel you’ve found a sustainable way to manage the cultural excess while relishing your food. And doesn’t sound like you feel like you want to bust out, or that you’re just waiting for it to be over. You don’t seem to be thinking “when am I going to get to eat again?†When I hear people make comments on other sites that hint at those feelings, I feel so bad for them. Basing eat on fewer eating events and fun meals seems so much more reasonable.
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by lpearlmom » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:29 am
Thanks all for the support! We had a Jewish Easter eating Thai food.
Today was absolutely hellish. First a big fight with my oldest than tonight a fight with my youngest and last night I fought with my husband. It must be me right? I understand why my husband was mad but have no idea how the fights with my daughters escalated. I’m pmsing and my emotions are raw and my thoughts are confused. I swear I just do not feel cut out for this parenting thing sometimes. I just want to runaway. I don’t understand what I’m doing wrong. We will get through this I know.
Yesterday was much better. Went to conference with some of my activists friends. We had someone take a picture of us and it was so weird to look at. I actually thought I looked halfway decent and not at all fat. It was also weird to see me with all these people that a year ago I didn’t even know. Look at me looking cute and having a proper social life. Now if I could figure out the home front stuff. Funny how everything can’t seem to ever come all together at the same time. *sigh* Maybe I can go away for a couple days or something.
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21/3
Break-fast (3:30): lots of Thai food, 2 glasses of wine
Dessert: custard with Italian ice
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CW: 172
GW:160
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by 3squaremeals » Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:11 am
Sorry to hear about the fights with your family. I completely understand, me and my middle son butt heads alot as we are so similar. All I have to do is ask him to tidy his room and he starts crying which makes me yell at him and it just escalates. Parenting is tough!
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by oolala53 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:29 pm
A therapist I saw recently told me that a lot of my conflict with my students stems from the fact that it is the "work" of teens to separate themselves from adults. They might not do it with all of them, but instead unconsciously pick one or two. It's possible the ones they pick do have something that sets them both on edge. I did feel a little better, though the thought that most of my colleagues don't have the same problem, but it's just the truth that different mixes work better.
At the same time, I found myself keeping (I've been decluttering) a few books I have on student/teacher relationships ( not the illegal kind
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) that I will look at later if I decide to go back to work in the fall. I have one more year, if I work, to have a breakthrough!
I'm not surprised you look better to yourself in the picture. You have lost some weight, after all, AND I'm convinced being able to follow through with sincere effort can change the way we see our bodies, even if there aren't really that many changes. It might not be every time- our culture has done a pretty good job at adulterating our expectations of what people should look like-, but sometimes, and yay for that!
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by automatedeating » Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:44 pm
What a "whole picture" post of where you at, Linda! Love that you can love yourself when you saw the pic. That's special.
And the kids. Well, I definitely don't have insight for that -- I am the queen of engaging and escalating with my two. People could probably film us, and then have a parenting class use the film as an exercise in finding parenting errors.
You love your girls so much. You are trying your best. You never give up. Fights will happen. And like you said, you'll get through it. Those girls are probably easily as moody as you feel right now. Actually, they are probably way more raw & emotional and yet have very little practice as yet with learning to deal with their emotions.
As far as never having it all clicking at the same time..... so true.
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by lpearlmom » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:31 pm
Square—thank you! It’s good to know that I’m not alone.
Oolala— thanks for your comments. I think a lot of it with my older daughter is that we’re so much alike & therefore push each other buttons. I hope you can find some peace in your last year of teaching. I’m sure that would feel like a great way to end things. Teens are not easy and teaching is not easy. Combining the two is an extra challenge for sure!!
Auto—your post made me laugh. I’d definitely be in the “what not to do†video too. It’s so tough isn’t it? Three hormonal, intense women in one house certainly isn’t helping matters. A lot of it is due to the fact that my oldest doesn’t get enough sleep. I’m going to start taking her electronics away at night and see if that helps.
Luckily this morning we were all able to have a calm conversation which ended in hugs and apologies. All good...for now. 😬
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by Larkspur » Sun Apr 08, 2018 12:55 am
Hope all is more peaceful on the home front.
It seems to be the nature of being human not to have everything pulled together all at once. I suppose there's a mindfulness & gratitude lesson in there somewhere-- there usually is
How nice to have a good recent picture of you with friends-- that's a bonus right there.
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by lpearlmom » Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:57 am
Thanks Larks! Things are good with my oldest daughter but now my youngest daughter is pissed off at me for I don’t know what. She’s almost 13 and it shows!
Today I had a meeting at my house about reducing gun violence in Az. I spent the day cooking and cleaning. We had a really good turn out of about 20 ppl. The hardest part for me is when I have to speak in front of everyone even when it’s just introducing a speaker. I’m proud of myself for doing it anyway and for organizing all these events. Lately I barely recognize the person I’ve become. In a good way!
I really overdid it this weekend. Saturday we went out to dinner and had a five course meal. Then I came home and had ice cream—wth? Today I really didn’t eat that much but was still full from last night so it felt like it.
I’m thinking about doing alternate day fasting for a bit. Would be so much easier if I lived alone.
16/6
Break-fast (2pm): glass wine, pretzel, couple crackers with dip, cookie
Dinner: small steak, crab leg, grapes
Dessert: large chai, cookie
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SW: 210 lbs
CW: 172
GW:160
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by lpearlmom » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:07 am
The alternative day fasting is not going so well. I was able to fast all day Monday but today I just really wanted to eat so I did. Had lots of carbs. Maybe it’s not for me.
Break-fast (4pm): smoothie , macadamia nuts,
Dinner: risotto, steak, glass wine
Dessert: 1/2 oatmeal cookie, protein bar, glass of milk
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SW: 210 lbs
CW: 172
GW:160
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by Larkspur » Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:16 pm
Yeah, I have trouble seeing alternate day fasting as a lifestyle. Whatever you do to lose fat has to be sustainable, or why bother, and personally I could not groove on that, though I've read some people like it.
Under the heading of unasked-for advice, have you tried resistance training? I'm convinced of the benefit, just have to make myself do it regularly.
Weight loss truly is the ugly science, as my podcast guy says
Off to lift some weeny weights (I get sore!)
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by worth it » Sat Apr 14, 2018 2:18 am
Hi Linda!
Just reading through your thread and I swear sometimes I feel like we are on similar wavelengths...
So, first of all, I'm sorry that your first few days on ADF were not so hot. I tried it for a month or so a few years ago and didn't do great. Either way, I hope that it gets better if you decide to continue. If not, no harm, no fowl.
I literally just wrote on my thread (as a reminder) that it's ok to experiment and not just be a strict rule follower to find a way of eating that makes me feel the BEST! So, I admire the fact that you are switching it up a little to see if something different could make you feel even better.
I had been struggling lately with feeling restricted because I had been trying to shrink my eating window down to do IF "better". What I learned is that I became out of balance and started feeling yucky. So, I just decided to go back to what I was doing at the start of this journey and I already feel a LOT better. I think when I strive for "perfection", I stop being moderate. Ugh.
I guess this was just a long way of saying that I hope you find the best way forward for you- whether with ADF or another method. I'm rooting for you, girl!
Hugs!