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elegantportions
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Post by elegantportions » Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:26 pm

I don't count myself as ever actually leaving NoS, but I wanted to put this here to call everyone's attention to the Sticky of the Stickies.
My last post was my Year 2 testimonial in late 2015, included as a reply on Year 1.
Sorry, I would include a link to that post, but it's been so long since I have been here that I don't remember how.

New CatchPhrase: Don't go tharn!
(Showing my age here)
From the book Watership Down by Richard Adams (1972), "tharn" is the term used when animals see the headlights of oncoming cars and are frozen in terror...
Or think about the 1971 movie Andromeda Strain when one of the scientists almost fails to save the world because she goes into a trance instead of responding appropriately when she sees all the red warning lights...

My HabitCal reveals everything:
2014 avg 5 reds per month, just learning the habits, losing excess weight slowly
2015 avg 2 reds per month until Dec, still losing

NoS Book, p. 142: "Be honest about failures, and limit them. One day is regrettable but inevitable. Two in a row is pushing it. And it should never be more than that. Don't beat yourself up, just hit the brakes hard. Marking green, yellow, and red (respectively) for success, exemption, and failure on a Habit Traffic Light calendar helps. Just make sure not to stop marking when you run into a failure; that's the most important thing to mark."

Dec 2015 & Jan 2016 were almost solid red.
I can't believe I kept marking (with varying success) through Oct 2016, all the while slowly regaining excess weight.
2017 was spent in denial, still gaining.

So, here I am, BMI worse than when I started and 4 years older, but hopefully wiser.
Last week was solid green.

A few things I have learned during my dereliction:

If I eat like a newborn 8x a day, then I gain weight like a newborn.

I really do not want to eat chips every single weekday lunch, and my default 3-oz. bowl full will definitely NOT fit on my lunch plate.
If oversize portions feed an oversize body, then the corollary must also be true: Right-size portions feed a right-size body.

I can easily eat enough to more than compensate for lugging a baby around all day.

No Snacks means the kitchen is closed between dinner and breakfast.
"Just a few" jelly beans after dinner leads to permasnacking until bedtime.
If I have cravings, just drink some water and either take a walk or go to bed NOW.

I really do need to check in at least once a month for accountability and encouragement.
It's great to see old friends still on board!
EP
5'5" Female Age 62
Dec 2018 Year 5 BMI = 25.8 with too many red days

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Post by oolala53 » Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:40 pm

Thank you for sharing your observations. It's so easy to get lured by the excess messages, even if the messages are encoded in the food- esp. the packaged stuff. 8)

Is this what you meant about a previous post? If not, let me know if you want me to delete it.
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"Year 2 UPDATE: Another year of success sort of following NoS!

Soon after posting this testimonial last year, I got serious and actually followed vanilla NoS for awhile. But my weight remained stable, and I knew I needed to figure out ELEGANT portion sizes. So for awhile I counted bites and was thoroughly shocked at how little food really is a decent portion for my body and activity level.

Without any particular goal in mind, I conducted an experiment paying more attention to just how I felt eating less and less food within the framework of NoS. Within a few months I found a "good" level of hunger (just hungry enough for the next meal), and dropped the bite counting. I began to see numbers on the scale I haven't seen since 2003!

Then just before the holidays, we brought a newborn foster baby home from the hospital. I dropped Shovelglove in favor of lifting & carrying this other weight that was 7 lbs. & daily growing. My activity level in no way resembled what it had been for the previous 6 months and I would have STARVED had I not begun eating more. Habitwise the holidays were terrible, and yes, I definitely overdid the upward adjustment.

But my weight remains within the normal range, I am at peace with food, and NoS gives me the framework of sanity I need to live life without having to give food more attention than it deserves."
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 9 years & counting
Age 65
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
Mar/18 22.2

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.

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Post by Over43 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:09 am

noni wrote:It's the first time I didn't eat all the skin off the turkey while carving it.
(I think I left this on the wrong post and don't know how to get rid of it)
The skin is the best part :D
April 4, 2016 197

Bacon is the gateway meat. - Anthony Bourdain
You pale in comparison to Fox Mulder. - The Smoking Man

I made myself be hungry, then I would get hungrier. - Frank Zane Mr. Olympia '77, '78, '79

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Post by elegantportions » Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:53 pm

Yes, Oolala, that was the post I meant.
Thank you very much for digging it up for me.
EP
5'5" Female Age 62
Dec 2018 Year 5 BMI = 25.8 with too many red days

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Post by oolala53 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:45 am

I just went to the Testimonials forum.

I hope to see your update there sometime.
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 9 years & counting
Age 65
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
Mar/18 22.2

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.

eschano
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Post by eschano » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:35 am

Hello!
I was successful with NoS 2012-2016 and lost 20pounds sustainably on it. I stopped when I got pregnant with my first child in 2016 as I felt extremely nauseated for four months and nothing other than constant snacking was helping. So I swapped one habit for permasnacking yet again. My first daughter was also a shocking sleeper and up every 1 1/2hours all night until she was 9 months old and still rarely sleeps through now so sleep deprivation didn’t help one bit and I didn’t really manage to get back on NoS before I got pregnant with my second around my firstborn’s first birthday. Now that the little one is 12weeks and a much better sleeper I feel like I can start in earnest again.
Obviously none of these are valid excuses as I know of enough people who successfully did NoS while pregubut I’m just not one of them.
My main triggers are:
-Tiredness
-Food leftover on my toddler’s plate that I would happily wolf down
-boredom
-being in the house a lot with access to food

Ultimately, I know NoS is the right way for me. I was happy and healthy and had a good relationship with food and my body. I won’t even consider any other diet again. NoS healed me in so many ways I didn’t think possible and impacted positively on my mental health, my partnership, and my family and I crave that structure again.
eschano - Vanilla rocks!

July 2012- January 2016
Started again July 2018

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Post by Sammybunny711 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:39 pm

All of your stories are so inspiring! I did No S for a brief period of time back in the day and just got tantalized by all the other diets out there. I also modified the HECK out of No S to "fit my lifestyle". Well this time? NO MODS. I'm going to stick to vanilla No S starting today. I have always been able to do extremes but not balanced habits. That changes today. I'm going to be able to do this. I KNOW I can. The community here and on the Facebook group will be big factors in this success, I just know it. Thanks for always supporting each other. We can do this! GO US.
Height: 5'3"
Starting Weight: 157
Current Weight: 145
Goal Weight: 120-125 range

*^..^711

oolala53
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Post by oolala53 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:52 am

Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 9 years & counting
Age 65
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
Mar/18 22.2

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.

naeman
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Post by naeman » Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:42 pm

I left because I had trouble sticking to the habits, and even when I did for a month or so I tended to maintain instead of lose.

I came back because nothing else has worked for me. I've been in a somewhat frantic state of feeling hopeful about a new diet, giving up after a week or two, and then feeling horribly down until I think of a different angle to try a new diet from. I realized that there was no chance of succeeding in the long run if I didn't just stick to something.

I've decided to think about things a little differently this time. I want to approach the diet in a way that optimizes my chances of sticking with it. Instead of tracking binary success or failure on N days, I've split my tracking into three habits: snacks, sweets, and seconds. If I mess up an have a snack, I mark that one red for the day, but I still haven't failed completely and there's a reason to keep resisting sweets and seconds.

I've also decided to weigh myself only twice a month. In the past I've judged a diet by how sustainable it is and how much weight I'm losing with it. Seeing my weight stay the same or go up for a short period of time inevitably leads to giving up on the plan. Weight loss is my ultimate goal, but there are other good reasons to stick with No S until i can find a way to lose weight on it. So I'm not going to judge my success by weight loss, at least not initially.

I plan to get about 60 successful days in each N day habit (in a row) and seeing where that puts me before I start trying to work on my mindset for S days. I'm three weeks in and although I've had some slipups I've kept going and have felt no temptation to stop. Here's hoping this time works for me long term.

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Post by eschano » Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:09 pm

I very much hope it works for you too. Interesting approach, will follow it closely
eschano - Vanilla rocks!

July 2012- January 2016
Started again July 2018

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Post by ladybird30 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:47 am

Hi naeman, welcome back and good luck with your new approach. I didn't lose any weight for the first month I was on the forum as I was still adjusting how much I needed to eat.

I think that one of the reasons No S has worked for me is that I have regarded it as a way of permanently changing my eating habits rather than a temporary diet. By using the rules to cut out excess food my weight has gradually come down over the last year or so.
Three meals a day - not too little not too much, but just right

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Post by Bluebell » Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:19 pm

I’m going to copy and paste today’s check in which pretty much sums it up.

Ok, where to start.
Firstly, I have finally returned to this forum and my daily check in to see two messages asking after me. I am beyond touched that anyone would bother to look me up or think of me after all this time, let alone strangers online. So thank you.
Since I last checked in, in March, I had a complete relapse. I did what I always always do which is to return to my bad old habits. I lasted so much longer with NoS than any other diet, however it was as if I could not escape the inevitable forever.
I had maintained my 2 stone loss for some time, give or take a few pounds, but between now and then I have put back on 22 of the 28lb I had lost. It has felt like deliberate sabotage, and yet I knew even as I was doing it that deep down this was not what I wanted.
As a coincidence, I had a very interesting conversation with a friend of a friend who is a hypnotherapist. We spoke a bit about my issues around food and she said that she thought I was almost certainly rebelling against my mother putting me on a diet aged 12. I told that her that I didn’t feel like I was rebelling but she said that it would be locked away in my subconscious somewhere. She was very lovely and not at all pushy.
I kept thinking, I would love to see her for a session, she will finally release me from this burden (that’s how it feels, a burden to keep doing this to myself)
Mainly because I can’t justify spending that money on myself, I never got round to booking an appointment with her. However, I found myself asking ‘What would I want the outcome of a hypnotherapy session to be?’ And I came up with this.
I would like to eat sensible meals, cut out the crap, and enjoy the occasional treat without tipping over into a binge and feelings of guilt.
That would be the NoS diet then.
So here I am. Nothing will work for me as well as NoS has. I think I truly know that now. I hope so anyway. I’ve managed a week successfully and have also started C25K, I’m only on week 2 of the programme but feel determined to get fitter and healthier this time round.
I hope its OK to come back after all this time away. I intend to post from time to time, but keep a more detailed record in a paper diary kept by my bedside.

Edit : I just noticed my signature (or whatever you call it) at the bottom of my posts. Taken from one of Oolala’s replies on one of my posts. I think I lost sight of the North Star for a while, but its still up there. It never went away. I just stopped looking for it.
"You'll know where the North Star is ⭐️" - Oolala

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Post by oolala53 » Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:43 pm

Sent a private longer message, but welcome home.
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 9 years & counting
Age 65
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
Mar/18 22.2

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.

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Post by Bluebell » Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:47 pm

Thank you Oolala. My Inbox is empty though? (maybe I’ve been away too long? :lol: )
"You'll know where the North Star is ⭐️" - Oolala

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Post by oolala53 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:20 pm

I guess it wasn't private. I think it's the one I put on your check-in thread.
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 9 years & counting
Age 65
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
Mar/18 22.2

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.

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Post by 3squaremeals » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:04 am

Back again for the 100th time. When will I learn that diets don't work for me. This time I will be having 6 N days and 1 S day where I will have one S event. Most likely a sweet. As I need to keep the structure of the N days all week. I am going to start tracking my eating and exercise on habitcal.

I feel like I need to really make this work for me as I don't want to keep being overweight, miserable and obsessed with food and the scale. There is more to life than this.

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Post by Bluebell » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:04 am

oolala53 wrote:I guess it wasn't private. I think it's the one I put on your check-in thread.
Ah yes, thank you :)
"You'll know where the North Star is ⭐️" - Oolala

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Post by Bluebell » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:06 am

3squaremeals wrote:I feel like I need to really make this work for me as I don't want to keep being overweight, miserable and obsessed with food and the scale. There is more to life than this.
Sounds like we are in a very similar position. Good luck with your return :)
"You'll know where the North Star is ⭐️" - Oolala

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Post by 3squaremeals » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:42 am

Thank you Bluebell, good luck to you on your journey too. We can do this! 🙂

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Back and ashamed

Post by Marina » Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:03 pm

I'm back. Again. I feel so ashamed to have fallen of the wagon! I was doing ok but had a very bad day a few months ago and that was it... i went back to disordered eating and feeling alienated from life. I regained almost all the weight i had lost and have to start walking daily again. I'm still pre-diabetic and very afraid of becoming diabetic. The good thing is i have been managing pain much better.

I've been doing vanilla No-S since the beggining of october but the S days are terrible and have me binging the whole day which sometimes goes on to contaminate my monday and sometimes tuesday. So i'm going back to what has worked the most for me in the past which is to stick to 3 meals on the weekends and allow myself maybe only one or two Ss (as in a dessert and a normal snack).

I feel very scared when i stop to think about my eating habits. Will i be able to eat in a nomal way? Will i be able to be healthier and avoid diabetes? No-S has to work for me. I have to make it work.

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Post by automatedeating » Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:52 am

Hi Marina!

I also have a pre-diabetes diagnosis (and borderline hypertension to boot), so I know that scary feeling of our health feeling out of our control. It's not, though. We can each find what works for us. For me, I have to eat whole foods (which easily moderates my carbs), and avoid free access to my trigger foods (or build in a "limited" access). But other than that, I can fairly happily stick to NoS, plain and simple.

Welcome back.

I don't have a solution for your questions (S Days, no S Days, etc.), but I do hope you find your "thrive" path. Don't give up!
Month/Year-BMI
8/13-26.3; 8/14-24.5; 5/15-26.2; 1/16-26.9; 9/16-25.6; 8/17-25.8; 11/17-26.9; 3/18-25.6; 8/18-24.5; 10/18-23.8; 1/19-23.4; 2/19-22.7; 3/19-22.1

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Re: Back and ashamed

Post by Soprano » Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:17 am

Marina wrote: I feel very scared when i stop to think about my eating habits. Will i be able to eat in a nomal way? Will i be able to be healthier and avoid diabetes? No-S has to work for me. I have to make it work.
Yes you will be able to do all of that, be patient be prepared for the odd setback, you are only human. Just keep on doing it.

Use the habitcal it's a great motivator

Jx
Never give up on a dream just because of the time it will take to accomplish it. The time will pass anyway.

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Post by oolala53 » Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:51 pm

This is one of those situations where using fear would be a good thing. It's the timing that matters. If we feel the fear only when there is no risk, when there are no eating decisions to be made, it's going to be ineffective suffering. We need to muster the fear, or resolve, right when the urge to eat that extra food comes up. That's the moment of proof/truth. Being honest about admitting that it might not be as important as we say if we keep letting our intention melt in the moment can help grow the determination. Think of us cheering you on to hold out BEFORE you take those "failure" bites and how glad you'll be when you can look back and see that you got over the hump.
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 9 years & counting
Age 65
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
Mar/18 22.2

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.

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Post by jenji » Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:50 pm

I hope you can get back in the groove. I was able to bring my blood sugar back to normal (from a high reading) over the first 4 months.
I'm a 49-year-old mom and non-profit CEO
I am 5' 7.5"
Began No S at 184#, BMI 28.4 - 9/25/2017
Current weight 168#, BMI 25.9- 11/18/2018

MaggieMae
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Post by MaggieMae » Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:55 pm

Wow, jinji! That's quite the testimony for no s! Congrats on getting the blood sugar level under control! Just looked at your stats.... We're similar in height and age, and I am so happy for you that your bmi is also down along with your blood sugar. Amazing! I am encouraged by your success.

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Post by jenji » Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:55 pm

MaggieMae wrote:Wow, jinji! That's quite the testimony for no s! Congrats on getting the blood sugar level under control! Just looked at your stats.... We're similar in height and age, and I am so happy for you that your bmi is also down along with your blood sugar. Amazing! I am encouraged by your success.
Good luck
I'm a 49-year-old mom and non-profit CEO
I am 5' 7.5"
Began No S at 184#, BMI 28.4 - 9/25/2017
Current weight 168#, BMI 25.9- 11/18/2018

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Re: Why did you leave? Why are you back?

Post by Lady Crimson » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:54 am

Short answers:
I left because I am an idiot.
I'm back because I am not a complete idiot.

Long answer:
My first time with No S, I had a great deal of success. I found the book in the bookstore and started it right away. The first month I lost ten pounds but then in the following months my weight loss slowed and I wanted to lose weight faster. . .and ended up regaining all the weight I had lost.

I returned because dieting doesn't work. Every time I leave no S and go on a regular diet I lose more weight on those diets than on No S but I can't stay on those diets forever and so eventually and crash and regain all the weight plus some extra. No S is the only "diet" that works long term and gets easier the longer I am on it. I first joined back in September 2008 (I had a different username then) and if I had stayed on No S, I would have been at my ideal weight years ago. Instead here I am ten years later, once again returning to No S and hoping that this time I can use some common sense and stick with the only thing that really works.

I just noticed that I rejoined with this username in 2013--over five years ago. If I had stayed on No S then, I would be at my ideal weight by now. I really need to stop being an idiot! Where's a wall? I need to bang my head against it--that will help, right?

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Re: Why did you leave? Why are you back?

Post by ladybird30 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:43 am

Lady Crimson wrote: No S is the only "diet" that works long term and gets easier the longer I am on it.
I never thought about that before, but No S does get easier after a while, while starvation diets just get harder and harder.
Three meals a day - not too little not too much, but just right

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Post by automatedeating » Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:09 pm

I agree! It gets easier! In order of (for me) No Snacks (I can't imagine a life of snacking anymore); No Sweets; and No Seconds. The NoSeconds has always been the trickiest one for me and is not as black & white, so I find it harder to internalize.
Month/Year-BMI
8/13-26.3; 8/14-24.5; 5/15-26.2; 1/16-26.9; 9/16-25.6; 8/17-25.8; 11/17-26.9; 3/18-25.6; 8/18-24.5; 10/18-23.8; 1/19-23.4; 2/19-22.7; 3/19-22.1

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Post by ceo418 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:50 pm

I'm back because I've been out of control with my eating for a long time and have come to realize that I need structure. 3 meals a day, with treats on weekends and special days...that's a fairly simple set of rules. I'm fully expecting some wild S-days to begin with, then I'm hoping they'll calm down and I can finally shed the weight that's been with me for pretty much my entire life. I want to feel better in my own skin and hopefully delay or avoid major health problems down the road. It's time. I can do this.

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Re: Why did you leave? Why are you back?

Post by oolala53 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:09 pm

Lady Crimson wrote:Short answers:
I left because I am an idiot.
I'm back because I am not a complete idiot.
Guffaw.

I joined in the fall of 2008, but lasted only two separate weeks of the next 15 months. But 12/26 was my 9th anniversary (and if you read my thread, you know that I have been wobbling. I think the worst is over.)

I don't think you can guarantee that you'll be at your goal weight if you stick with it this time, but you can be at your goal sanity! Just keep remembering what the options are. Calorie counting? Eliminating foods? Continued disorder? Or systematic moderation? I know which one seems the least painful.
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 9 years & counting
Age 65
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
Mar/18 22.2

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.

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Post by Dalia negra » Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:08 am

Hello!!!

Well, I left because I focused on losing weight before looking at how good I felt. I was losing weight with No S, but very slowly, and I wanted to lose more quickly as I was used to with all my diets.

Why have I returned? Because I can not make a diet anymore. The last one I have done has "forced" me to eat cheese and bread at breakfast EVERY DAY, and meat and a small amount of carbohydrates at noon. This every day the same. The structure is almost equal to No S, three meals a day and two free meals a week in which to give free rein to our voracity, the problem is that eating always the same becomes boring even putting imagination ...

I want to emphasize that No S helped me a lot the previous time, she managed to leave bingeing for a long time, so much so that I thought I was prepared to make a more strict diet. But no. The restriction made the compulsion return. So now I'm in this for pleasure. I want to recover the pleasure of food again. And S does not give it to me without everything falling apart and my way of eating is chaos.

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Post by oolala53 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:49 am

No eating routine that doesn't supply enough pleasure for the payoff is going to last. Which is not to say we can't sometimes find pleasure in something that we didn't think we could, but we have to find it out.

I hope this go brings what you want.
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 9 years & counting
Age 65
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
Mar/18 22.2

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.

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Post by ladybird30 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:17 am

Dalia negra wrote:The restriction made the compulsion return.
You said it. Here's to pleasure.
Three meals a day - not too little not too much, but just right

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Post by Dalia negra » Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:21 am

You are absolutely right.


 However, when I get pleasure from food I feel guilty and my diet mentality starts talking to me and telling me that it will be impossible to lose weight, and that without sacrifice I will not get it ... Many years of torturing me ... but I will manage to go erasing all those thoughts ... I'll try at least :wink:

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Post by oolala53 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:32 am

I like to say that the pleasure has to be there before, during, and after eating. This helps in realizing that we might want to eat a lot more of food because it tastes good, but that will not lead to pleasure later. I think the guilt over delicious food is that we know we often kept eating it just for the taste. That is a very human thing to do, but it doesn't serve us, especially when seductive food is so available.

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Post by Dalia negra » Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:10 am

oolala53 wrote:I like to say that the pleasure has to be there before, during, and after eating. This helps in realizing that we might want to eat a lot more of food because it tastes good, but that will not lead to pleasure later. I think the guilt over delicious food is that we know we often kept eating it just for the taste. That is a very human thing to do, but it doesn't serve us, especially when seductive food is so available.

You are going to get this!


Absolutely true. Yesterday I read you (sorry for not answering before) and I thought you were right, so I tried to stop when I was satisfied even if there was some food on the plate, and voilà! There was no feeling of guilt, only satisfaction :wink: :D

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Post by oolala53 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:03 pm

To remind anyone why people leave and come back.

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