automated eating tracker

Counting carbs/calories is a drag. Obsessive scale stepping is a recipe for despair. If you want to count something, "days on habit" is a much better metric. Checking off days on a calendar would do just fine, but if you do it here you get accountability and support. Here's how. Start a new topic in this forum called (say) "Your Name Daily Check In." Then every N day post a "reply" to that topic as to whether you stayed on habit. A simple "<font color="green">SUCCESS</font>" or "<font color="red">FAILURE</font>" (or your preferred euphemism if that's too harsh) is sufficient, but obviously you're welcome to write more if you want. On S-days just register that you're taking an S-day. You don't have to do this forever, just until you're confident you've built the habit. Feel free to check in weekly or monthly or sporadically instead of daily. Feel free also to track other habits besides No-s (I'm keeping this forum under No-s because that's what the vast majority are using it for). See also my <a href="/habitcal/">HabitCal</a> tool for another more formal (and perhaps complementary) way to track habits.

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by Octavia » Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:52 pm

Hi Auto,
I so sympathise with this difficult phase. How’s a girl supposed to turn down wine at friends’? It’s impossible. I hope you get chance to rest and catch up with everything (like self-care) soon.

Try not to feel too bad about forgetting the child. I have done the same. DH’s mum once left him in his pram (aged zero) outside the supermarket and got all the way home before she realised. (This must have been in the halcyon days when mothers left babies outside the shop!) Our heads get overloaded and stuff gets deleted.

Use disorder: I has it. :lol: mainly with chocolate but a little with alcohol. I’ve been battling it all week, and losing.

I once read about a psychological technique called ‘glimpsing’, by Dr Claire Weekes, in her anxiety books. It’s good for obsessive thoughts. Throughout the day, if you catch a glimpse of pleasant normality in your head, you simply acknowledge it, be glad of it, then let it go. As long as you don’t go looking for them, glimpses of normality should then multiply. So....could we apply this to our ‘disordered usage’? Simply notice the moments when we’re NOT doing it, not craving it, not thinking about it? Notice it, acknowledge, be glad, then let the moment go? Like now: I’m sitting on the sofa, not drinking and not eating chocolate. It feels OK. Perhaps these moments will multiply, if gently encouraged in this way!

I think the things you’ve pinpointed get right to the essence of what we’re doing here at No S...trying to tame a part of ourselves that doesn’t seem to be under our direct control. I will get back to you when I discover the answer. Now, back to the laboratory....
:wink: :lol:

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:19 pm

Thank you Octavia for your encouraging post. About the forgetting to pick up the child (luckily he is a 13-year old and has a cell phone, so it could have been far more horrifying), and also your comments relating to the "use disorder", as we shall call it. :-)

I'm intrigued by the "glimpsing" technique. That said, I'm grooving it with my Middle Earth Meditations and I like to think they are helping me. One "experiment" at a time, ha.
Now, back to the laboratory....
I love this! I think long-term NoSers are "biohackers" through and through. :lol:

Sunday, April 28

S Day

Eating
B: coffee w/milk, bacon & eggs
L: 2 pieces of pizza, 1 glass of milk, 1 chocolate-covered macadamia nut
D: leftovers - taco meat nachos w/guacamole, cheese, sour cream
Dessert: (will be) ice cream
Kombucha instead of wine. I gave it up last summer due to the sugar. But it doesn't have a lot of sugar and it's very enjoyable. Nearly enjoyable as wine. Expensive, though - so doesn't really save me money compared to buying wine.

Drinking
Abs Day
I signed up for a coach on Coach.Me. to support my "changing relationship with alcohol". It is $20/week. I am going to go exactly 3 weeks alcohol-free, with my coach's support and hopefully this forum will keep me on track. You guys are all always so supportive of me. My in-real-life friends don't know the extent of my alcohol struggles, so I appreciate the support on this forum. I'll also say this, though -- when I "fail" with my alcohol goals, I ALSO appreciate that no one here is too tough on me. I think that would make me clam up a bit or stop coming on here. I wonder if that has happened to forum-users about their food fails. Probably. It's human nature, I suppose. What a funny, tricky balance between lovingly holding our friends accountable to what we know they really want, but not pushing them to make changes they aren't ready to make.
Anyway, after 3 weeks Sexy and I are going on 2-night hotel get-away/hiking outings + lazy hot tub evenings and I will have alcohol! After that, I'll either have another stint of abstinence or I will restart a moderation attempt. One day at a time, isn't that the motto? ;-)
Month/Year-BMI
8/13-26.3; 8/14-24.5; 5/15-26.2; 1/16-26.9; 9/16-25.6; 8/17-25.8; 11/17-26.9; 3/18-25.6; 8/18-24.5; 10/18-23.8; 1/19-23.4; 2/19-22.7; 3/19-22.1

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:33 pm

Monday, April 29

124.2

Eating
B: coffee w/milk
L: yogurt w/berries
D: hamburgers? This would be a good night for that with everyone home after 5ish.

Drinking
Day #2 of my 20 day Clarity Challenge
Working with a personal coach on this.
One idea I had is that, after the 20 day challenge, I can consider giving up WINE forever and replace it with Hard Kombucha (yes, this is a thing). It is 4% alcohol and sold at my local grocery. It tastes good to me and has purported health benefits. These match wine, which tastes good to me, has purported health benefits, but wine bottles are too big, lol.
The thing about not drinking. It's easy and it's easy and then suddenly, one day, it's super hard. And I give in.
My coach says the HALTSS acronym helps some people deal with cravings.

H - hunger
A - angry (how about anxious?)
L - lonely
T- tired
S - stressed
S - sad

Moving
Just for this week, I'm going to try afternoon walk/jogs. For two reasons - #1 - I am teaching 5 classes and I am extremely efficient in that 6-7am morning hour. In the afternoon I am not. #2 - It will be a good replacement behavior instead of drinking. Today - I will try to go on my walk/jog after dinner, about 6:30pm I think. Heads-up - this could be a total flop.
Update - just finished dinner, have a pile of grading to do, I'm so tired (and full), this evening walk/jog thing is probably not a smart plan for me. I'll try to get out there though. Update - I did go for about 40 minutes. It was beautiful outside but I felt anxious. I'm not sure I felt guilty for leaving home in the evening like that, or if it's just that I typically feel anxious in the evening (hence the wine habit). Whatever. Not sure but anyway did the walk.
Month/Year-BMI
8/13-26.3; 8/14-24.5; 5/15-26.2; 1/16-26.9; 9/16-25.6; 8/17-25.8; 11/17-26.9; 3/18-25.6; 8/18-24.5; 10/18-23.8; 1/19-23.4; 2/19-22.7; 3/19-22.1

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by lpearlmom » Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:31 am

I think it’s great you reached out to a coach. I guess we’re both realizing me need some extra help with our different issues. Im so glad that theres a few of us here that can talk about our struggles with drinking too. I really have nobody in my real life i can talk to about it. In fact, Im super sensitive to any comments regarding my drinking even if its meant to be playful so it’s nice to be able to talk about this stuff in a judgment free zone for sure.

Anyway, I know you’ll figure it all out in time. Also, thanks for your continued support. Really appreciate it. 💜
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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by nonoodles » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:36 am

I’m older than you guys - about to turn 66. We were recently talking with some good friends about what changed that made us all suddenly become daily drinkers. When our kids were growing up, it was strictly a wedding and bar mitzvah type thing. I think it was when our world went from cocktails to wine that drinking seemed so innocuous.
My husband and I kind of made an informal rule that the bottle lasts two nights, but there are plenty of times we keep topping off. Then a cold turkey “reset” (ie abstinence) seems to help and then after that one glass works again. That nice feeling of warm and fuzzy optimism.
When my boys went off to college, the alcohol culture was huge and still is. I (which they no doubt heard as blah blah blah:) would always tell them just because two beers feels good, more will not make you feel better. I still have to tell myself that. Really about everything!
Wondering what about your drinking feels out of control- frequency, amount, behavior? Curious.
Oh, and since we are all pretty weight conscious or wouldn’t be here once when I totally quit for six weeks I lost five pounds no sweat 😂😂😂

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Wed May 01, 2019 1:25 am

Thanks Linda - lovely to have you stop by my thread today. You're the one that inspired me to find a coach, actually. :-) I just felt like I'm worth it, ya know? It's OK to pay for a bit to try and get a little better handle on this.

Nonoodles - I'm reading a book called "Naked Mind - Control your drinking" and it is emphasizing how pretty much everybody increases their drinking over time. So, the sooner the heav(ier) drinking begins, the worse the eventual slide. It sounds like at my age you were only having cocktails at special occasions! So I'm much farther down that slippery slide than I'd like to be. What feels out of control... let's see 1) frequency - it's nightly if I'm not on top of it. 2) Amount - it's 3-4 glasses if I'm not on top of it. 3) Behavior - just kind of lazy and not as interactive with my kids. Ultimately, I know that my kids need a better example about alcohol intake. In January and February I was really great about limiting alcohol intake and I did see a weight dip. However, right now I'm focusing on dealing with alcohol cravings so I may be eating ice cream some nights. :roll: One vice for another!! :| In general, though, I have a list of 18 "replacement" behaviors that my coach had me make. It's a good list and ice cream is only 1 of the many options to make it through.

Avoiding alcohol is not hard for about a week or two. And then when the stress hits, I just cave. I go from A+ resistance to F in what feels like a matter of hours.

Tuesday, April 30

123.2

Eating
B: coffee w/milk
L: yogurt w/berries, 2 pickles
D: big salad, 1 hot dog w/mustard, 1 glass of milk

Drinking
Abs day
Kombucha as replacement
walk/jog with dog after dinner

PersonalLearning
Reading the book "This Naked Mind: Control Alcohol"
I have highlighted this passage:
If only you could quit for some unknown length of time, your desire for alcohol would diminish. You would finally be like all the people you know who seem to be in control of their alcohol, who seem to be able to take it or leave it. But wait. Are you weak-willed in other areas of your life or is alcohol a strange exception? I am distinctly not weak-willed, as people who know me can attest. Isn't it strange that I seem to lack willpower in this area?

Also enjoying a new Peter Attia The Drive podcast:
https://peterattiamd.com/robertsapolsky/
The pervasive effect of stress: Is it killing you?
In this episode, Robert Sapolsky, Ph.D., discusses the widespread impact of stress on our physical and emotional health as well as the mechanisms by which it can precipitate chronic illness, dementia, depression, and more. He also provides insight into the factors that contribute to the stress response (and our ability to handle it) such as social rank, personality, environment, and genetics. Lastly, we discuss how our behavior is altered in the face of stress and how that not only has a pervasive effect on a personal level, but also on society as a whole in how we interact with each other.

An observation on morning walks and evening walks:
My morning walk/jogs are invigorating. I move pretty fast, I look all around, I feel empowered.
My evening walk/jogs are meditative. I move much slower, I stare at one spot on the grass for a long time, I feel like I'm processing in slow motion. I think I need them both! Probably every day!
Month/Year-BMI
8/13-26.3; 8/14-24.5; 5/15-26.2; 1/16-26.9; 9/16-25.6; 8/17-25.8; 11/17-26.9; 3/18-25.6; 8/18-24.5; 10/18-23.8; 1/19-23.4; 2/19-22.7; 3/19-22.1

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by ladybird30 » Wed May 01, 2019 5:38 am

Hi Auto - I've never had addictive problems with alcohol, so nothing to offer there. (I stopped drinking when young because it made me feel terrible).
But I sympathise with your struggles, and wish you all the best with them.
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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by nonoodles » Wed May 01, 2019 10:44 am

Oh boy do I get it. It’s like me and sweets. (You’ve heard that country song “if I have one I have 15..”) I’ll go cold turkey for a (sadly short) while and actually decrease my cravings. Then I’ll think, “I can be a regular person and have just one piece of cake” Hah! Never happens and I never learn 😹😹 Sometimes I think I love wine for its sugar.

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Wed May 01, 2019 5:11 pm

Thanks Ladybird for the support. We don't all struggle with the same stuff, but we can still be there for each other. Thank you.

Nonoodles - yep, I think it is SCARY-similar to sugar addiction. This is an epiphany for me.

I am TIRED of having moderation attempts take up valuable bandwidth. If that's how some of you guys feel with dealing with sweets, argh - I get it and it SUCKS.

Wednesday, May 1

122.4

Eating
B: coffee w/milk
L: yogurt w/berries, 2 pickles
D: steak, tortillas w/guacamole
kombucha for fun

Drinking
Abs Days Forever? ha, that would be one less thing to track, I guess.
My coach had me make a timeline of my life with key important events. Then I had to add in my relationship with alcohol at various points. It was extremely helpful and I had some epiphanies. Believe it or not, some were actually so personal and sensitive that I can't quite even describe them on here.

Moving
Last couple nights I've done evening walks. I missed my more invigorating morning walks so did that this morning. I think maybe I need to be a 2 walk day person, lol. At least if I'm a person that doesn't drink in the evenings.
Also been working on my stretches to hopefully get better at the Wheel Pose.

PersonalLearning
Finished a podcast this morning that I had never finished. Can't believe I had forgotten about this one. Fantastic stuff.
https://peterattiamd.com/domdagostino/
In this episode, Dom D’Agostino, one of the smartest people on all things related to ketones, digs deep into the research and application of these molecules. We discuss ketone esters, diesters and monoesters, racemic ketones, medium-chain triglycerides (MCTs), C8 (caprylic acid) on the exogenous ketone (EK) side of things. We also cover a lot of Dom’s fascinating work with hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBOT). If you’re just curious about ketosis and/or HBOT, or working on a dissertation related to nutritional biochemistry, there’s probably something in this episode for you to take away.
Month/Year-BMI
8/13-26.3; 8/14-24.5; 5/15-26.2; 1/16-26.9; 9/16-25.6; 8/17-25.8; 11/17-26.9; 3/18-25.6; 8/18-24.5; 10/18-23.8; 1/19-23.4; 2/19-22.7; 3/19-22.1

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Thu May 02, 2019 2:00 pm

Thursday, May 2

122.2

Kind of embarrassing thing happened. I shared some private things with my online coach and her reply made it pretty clear (in a very kind way) that she is a coach, not a counselor. Which of course I should have understood, but I felt filled with shame when I read her reply. My eyes are kind of filling up just typing this. Made me realize also how much shame and guilt I have built up around my drinking. I am so done with this! Bandwidth, emotional collateral, $, on and on. If this were a specific "S", I'd be ready to murder it.

Eating
B: coffee w/milk
L: yogurt w/berries
D: Date night. Ugh. What's date night without wine? Talk about going into the lion's den of temptations. :cry: :cry: But I know it's important to go on date night. Maybe tonight we can get take-out and watch a movie at home - set the kids up with their stuff. And, maybe splurge on food I would typically save for S Days. Yes, that's a good idea! We could get Indian Food - ah!!!! I'll run this idea by Sexy.
Update - The lamb coconut curry I had was amazing. I enjoyed every bite. In fact, I definitely could have had seconds "just for taste", as my 13-year old said. I asked him if he was full, and he said "Yes - I would only want to eat more because it tastes good". And I thought - "out of the mouths of babes". Unlike Challenger, though, I did have thoughts to get more on a couple of occasions throughout the evening. I ultimately drank TWO diet sprites, 1 glass of milk, and 1 cup of kombucha. But made it green to bed.

Moving
Got in two walks again yesterday, but today not. I have spent some time doing journal type stuff. I also have to get some more grading done. Teaching 5 classes this quarter and having active kids really means I am not home very often! Second walk yesterday was while waiting for kids' activity bus to return from track meet. Challenger, by the way, is fast! He's smooth like running water. :-)

PersonalLearning
Still reading "This Naked Mind". I generally like it, but some of her science is off (yes, that sort of thing bugs me) and she is sure in the camp of alcohol is a pure poison, bla bla bla. She's also a little woo-woo. Nonetheless, I'm probably coming around to be a tee-totaller, but this mental process is painful. Are all of these addiction books going to be so mushy? Any recommendations out there for me? :-)
And no offense to my online coach, but I kind of don't need what she's offering. It's like daily suggestions, etc. I guess what I actually want is a real counselor. Maybe. I also don't want to go see the counselor and have them give me a guilt trip for not obviously thinking I should abstain forever.
Month/Year-BMI
8/13-26.3; 8/14-24.5; 5/15-26.2; 1/16-26.9; 9/16-25.6; 8/17-25.8; 11/17-26.9; 3/18-25.6; 8/18-24.5; 10/18-23.8; 1/19-23.4; 2/19-22.7; 3/19-22.1

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by nonoodles » Thu May 02, 2019 7:48 pm

I’m no expert, but if a coach or counselor or anybody for that matter makes you cry, and not in a good cathartic release kind of way, then where’s the help in that? Even if this person is advertising themselves as “just a coach” you should still be made to feel safe and comfortable when exploring your thoughts and feelings. I feel kind of appalled on your behalf!
To me it sounds like you are trying to get a handle on your drinking before it becomes a real problem, whereas now you are quite functional, but not at the level you would like. Maybe try baby steps. Get the alcohol out of the house so you are more present and productive with your family. If it’s not there you can’t drink it. Then you only need to worry about social occasions, where a drink or two might be just fine and totally appropriate. You seem so together that I’m sure you will biohack yourself to a place of comfort on this issue. Go Team :)

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Fri May 03, 2019 1:18 am

Go Team! :-) Yes! Thank you Nonoodles. I am pretty sure I am not going to pay for this coach anymore! I'm sure it's a good fit for some people, but it's a little too much like a self-help book for my tastes. Don't get me wrong, I love me a good self-help book, but I have those at my fingertips, kindle, library, and podcasts. I think I did actually want a friend that I could be completely honest with. I was looking in the wrong place.

And yes, baby steps! Alcohol is most definitely out of the house at this point. Now I just have to resist any urges to buy some on the way home from work. Social occasions are few and far between, and I've never worried about drinking inappropriately at those. Tonight on my way home, I told myself - I can relax with good food. I can relax with a good book. I can relax with a nap. I can relax with a kombucha. I can relax with a diet sprite. If needed, I can relax with vanilla ice cream! I can relax with reading articles on Medium. I can relax while listening to a podcast, or on a walk, or - you get the picture. I don't need alcohol to relax.

Well, so I got Indian take-out (coconut curry, pure bliss), and now I'm in my PJs and curled up with a cat.
Month/Year-BMI
8/13-26.3; 8/14-24.5; 5/15-26.2; 1/16-26.9; 9/16-25.6; 8/17-25.8; 11/17-26.9; 3/18-25.6; 8/18-24.5; 10/18-23.8; 1/19-23.4; 2/19-22.7; 3/19-22.1

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by ladybird30 » Fri May 03, 2019 6:22 am

automatedeating wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 2:00 pm
I also don't want to go see the counselor and have them give me a guilt trip for not obviously thinking I should abstain forever.
It's my understanding that counsellors in the field of alcohol addiction are moving away from the "must have total abstinence, it is the only way to go model". And even if they honestly think that is the best thing for you, a good one shouldn't give you a guilt trip. A good counsellors job is to help you find what is the best way forward for you, and to help you to achieve it. The trick is to find a good counsellor.
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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Fri May 03, 2019 1:42 pm

Ladybird, I bet you are absolutely right. I was just thinking last night that maybe I'd call my insurance today and learn about if any counseling is covered. I've always just paid out-of-pocket in the past, but I don't want to this time. Feeling weird about counseling this time, rather than excited or looking forward to it. :|

My coach actually did give me a cool exercise to work on this weekend - she asked me to draw a flower on a page. The 5 roots should be labeled with my "self-care" activities (this forum is totally one of those, btw), 5 petals with my personal strengths, and then, nearby, 5 weeds labeled with my main life stressors. Ah, how can I weed my garden today? 8)

Friday, May 3

122.6

Eating
B: coffee w/milk
L: leftover steak & an egg
during afternoon - 2 glasses of milk
D: eek not sure. maybe later today I'll make my new menu and grocery list and go shopping. Tonight is normally take-out but we just did that last night. Update - got all the shopping done. Had fried drumsticks and a big salad.
Had one diet sprite and 1 cup of kombucha

Moving
Not much. This quarter, teaching 5 classes, I literally feel like I can't push any harder. I sometimes have to use my morning time for reflection (hello forum friends), followed by an hour of grading. By about 4pm, when I finish, my body just isn't cooperating or being productive for grading, curriculum design, or student feedback. The pattern seems to be that I can get 2-3 morning walks/week right now, and that'll have to be OK this quarter. Today I'll try to get a walk in at some point, but this early morning time is my most productive work time. Even spending time journaling or working on alcohol reflections seems like a luxury - but truthfully, this is probably the most significant self-care I do. Not to say the only self-care thing.

PersonalLearning
I appear to have an obsession right now with understanding why, after quitting alcohol, I feel so groggy in the mornings. Quite the opposite of what you'd expect, but I have experienced this before. I wake up early and unable to sleep after drinking the night before (I understand this part physiologically), but I haven't found a entirely satisfying explanation for the groggy mornings without alcohol (I am a morning lark, so it's not normal for me to be groggy in the morning). Will this ever go away? I hope I haven't permanently damaged my neurotransmitters. :|
Update - I found this single sentence that I want to explore more: I learned that heavy drinking boosts levels of acetate ( a chemical found in vinegar) in the brain, that translates into extra energy for the body. from: https://www.recoveryconnection.com/the- ... -drinking/
What's interesting about this is that a) acetate is actually a form of a ketone; and b) this could explain why I've read clinical trials in which the ketogenic diet was a big help for those in alcohol withdrawal.

Update - mystery comfortably solved. I was a habitual drinker. This meant that I would often have 3 glasses of wine (for someone my size, this is probably a helluvalot). The acetate metabolites from the wine would fuel my brain in the early morning hours, so when I first got up, I actually was somewhat energized. Removing the alcohol meant less morning fuel for my brain, and apparently a level of inability to use glucose for energy. So. Now I wake up groggy. No acetate. Inhibited ability to metabolize glucose in my brain. There is going to be a period of adjustment. I think it could take several months, but perhaps I shouldn't have a firm time period like that, in case it takes much longer.
Month/Year-BMI
8/13-26.3; 8/14-24.5; 5/15-26.2; 1/16-26.9; 9/16-25.6; 8/17-25.8; 11/17-26.9; 3/18-25.6; 8/18-24.5; 10/18-23.8; 1/19-23.4; 2/19-22.7; 3/19-22.1

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Sat May 04, 2019 1:34 pm

Saturday, May 4

121.4

I want to pat myself on the back for my compliance the past few days. I've been super groggy, which often makes me crave comfort food, plus the stress of reading about alcohol use disorder and many related things is emotionally challenging, plus work is crazy and busy and there is just a lot going on. And yet I made good choices. However, multiple times on each day I had to exercise willpower. A big thing is that my husband, who is also trying to quit drinking, has been making cookies EVERY DAMN NIGHT and eating a big bowl of ice cream with cookies on it. That's all well and good for him, but not for me. So many many times I've had to self-talk, "no I don't eat that on an N Day". I had to exercise willpower an uncommon number of times to avoid junk food that was in my face at work too. The night I ate Indian food, which was freaking awesome, was my crowning achievement. Although that is not a typical N Day dinner for me, it hit the spot, stayed within the fence of the law, and gave me a dopamine hit that helped keep me from drinking alcohol that night.
All this combined with resisting wine all week leaves me with, I'm imagining, very weakened willpower muscles this morning. At least it's an S Day!!!

I have made an appointment with a substance abuse counselor. Well, actually, my little county doesn't have much available that way (if I want insurance to cover some of it, that is), and so when I looked him up he mostly talks about family therapy and individual therapy and he sounds a little hippy. But truly, what I will really need help with is managing my marriage and my parenting in the months to come as I change my relationship with alcohol. So he could be a good support to me as I figure out how to navigate my closest relationships moving forward. My biggest regret about my habitual drinking is the example it has set for my children - that they see alcohol as the normal way to handle stress or fatigue or anger or any damn emotion. The stats for them are not good. I bear that guilt and have to find a way to forgive myself and hopefully repair some of that damage. With so much substance abuse in my family, I think there is a good chance they have inherited a predisposition to my behavior. And dang it, my husband's behavior. There. I've said it. He really needs to do something too, and he is giving a half-hearted effort right now, but I can tell he is not to the "done with it" stage that somehow I've come to recently. Anyway, I can only change myself, and that will be hard enough to do. I need to get the log out of my own eye instead of fixating on what he needs to do. But believe me, dealing with that tricky part of this equation will be something I'm really wanting guidance from this counselor for.

I work from home on Fridays and yesterday I got very very little done work-wise. I guess I took a self-care day. I took a bath and read in the tub for an hour. Then I took a 2 hour nap. I mowed the lawn to get my body moving a little bit, and finally later in the day I did some grocery shopping. So. I'm trying to be gentle with myself. I probably need this self-care time, but I do feel concerned I've set myself up for more stress down the road by not getting enough done yesterday. :roll:

I feel like I now understand that this grogginesss is specifically a result of my alcohol withdrawal. Putting it in that spotlight reminds me that alcohol is the reason I feel groggy. If I hadn't gotten to that habitual point with my drinking, I would not be suffering like this right now.

The biohacker in me is trying out "Brain Octane Oil" as a morning supplement in my coffee in an effort to deal with the morning grogginess. It is 100% C8 caprylic acid triglycerides. That means there are 8 carbons in each fatty acid (shorter than most triglycerides). This is a medium chain saturated fatty acid that directly can be used by the liver and the brain for energy (as opposed to longer chain fatty acids that need more processing). I think it could be useful for my healing liver and brain in these next few weeks. I added it to my coffee, along with my normal milk, and it tastes fine. However, it's a little oily and I had to wipe my mouth when I finished drinking the cup. And I only used 1 teaspoon (the directions say to work up to 1 TBSP so as to avoid diarrhea).
Anyway, it's worth a try and these sorts of experiments enliven me; that alone is useful during this hard time.

Eating
B: coffee w/milk & brain octane oil, bacon, eggs & hashbrowns
L: leftover fried chicken and a glass of milk
D: (will be) possibly fish, broccoli, and maybe tortilla chips w/guac

Moving
I'm really not feeling the energy for too much of anything. I think my body is healing and I need to listen to it. A gentle walk would be a good idea, or even just the ordinary movement of housework.

Health Issues that most likely have been influenced/worsened by alcohol:
*weight gain in my 30's
*insulin resistance leading to prediabetes
*kidney stone development
*gut dysbiosis leading to C.dif
*mild kidney disease
*aging of my skin - wrinklier, drier skin than I would expect at my age
*rosacea - some red patches on my skin and the tip of my nose
*heartburn
*prematurely gray hair
*headaches
*prehypertension

Yikes. That's a long list. I need to refer to this list in the future when I am tempted to let alcohol lure me back.

Another list I want to keep, while I'm thinking about this. I do NOT want to go through withdrawal again. The first week without alcohol, I had a freaking massive horrible wanna die headache EVERY day. I only just remembered this, because the second week I didn't have a single headache. Yay! But with the pain of the headaches gone, the grogginess is what I've dealt with. Please I hope this doesn't last too long. I will say that I felt MUCH perkier this morning than I have. Maybe it was the brain octane stuff, but it also could have been that yesterday I was gentle with myself, and took a long nap, and then just took another nap today too!
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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by Octavia » Sat May 04, 2019 8:04 pm

Sounds like you’re following your instincts well, Auto. Hope you get chance for plenty of self-care. This is a challenge indeed, but you can do it. Keep us posted and stay as strong as you can. Wishing you all the best! 💐👍

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by Octavia » Sat May 04, 2019 8:15 pm

PS. I too feel a bit outraged that your online coach rebuffed you. I get that they can’t give expert advice on everything, but they can surely listen and be there for you. What a painful experience. I hope the new guy is better!

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by ladybird30 » Sun May 05, 2019 5:23 am

automatedeating wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 1:34 pm
Saturday, May 4

I do NOT want to go through withdrawal again. The first week without alcohol, I had a freaking massive horrible wanna die headache EVERY day. I only just remembered this, because the second week I didn't have a single headache. Yay! But with the pain of the headaches gone, the grogginess is what I've dealt with.
Well done for sticking with it & getting this far.
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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Sun May 05, 2019 2:04 pm

Thank you ladybird and Octavia! I'm feeling really good, empowered. I know hard times will come, but I'll try to enjoy the "sober high" and just make sure I have a big toolbox of supports in place for when the stress hits and the cravings return.

Octavia, my goal with this counselor is to be totally honest. Well, I guess I am always like that with counselors. Here's the problem - I think I tend to impress the counselors with my already strong ability at self-reflection, self-awareness, etc. They don't have a lot of patients like that, is my guess (after experiencing this multiple times in my life). I think I become kind of a "favorite" and they think I'm doing fine. I'm not! Just because I can express my dysfunctions doesn't mean I am dealing with them properly. Oooh, this was a good thing to write down. I'm going to tell my counselor this so he doesn't become entangled by my expressive skills. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: omg, this is making me laugh. I usually don't think of myself as manipulative, but I just realized I can have a counselor wrapped around my finger too easily! And then they are useless to me. Do I sound like a sociopath? Maybe that would be useful to share as well. :mrgreen: :twisted: :lol:
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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Sun May 05, 2019 4:49 pm

Sunday, May 5th!

Eating
B: coffee w/milk, brain octane oil supplement, bacon & eggs, glass of milk
L: leftover fried chicken + diet sprite
D: will be dessert/snack - movie popcorn and a candy at the movies. Taking the kids and some friends to see Avengers at 5pm.
Nice to not feel resentful that I will be out too late to enjoy a glass of wine when I get home. Very freeing to not have to drink wine.

Moving
short walk/jog with HappyHerder. I think I need to really try to get outside every day this week, even if it's just for a few minutes.

Spending
I have a list of items that are all luxury that I would like to buy. I was thinking that perhaps I can set them as rewards along the way for my alcohol abstinence days.
Here are the items (in order from highest to lowest, not necessarily the priority, which I can't decide yet):
1. Samsung Galaxy S9 or something fancy like that - $550
2. Oura Ring (sleep and health tracker) - $300
3. Viome gut microbiome testing - $300
4. Kindle Paperwhite (waterproof & can read in the sun!) - on sale right now for $90

Update - I think what I will do is keep track of "alcohol savings". I will estimate $5/day, which means $35/week or 20 days until I can get the Kindle Paperwhite. I've already got 15 days! Which means I can get the Kindle Paperwhite for my Mother's Day Gift. :D I imagined myself reading in the sun this summer, diet sprite in hand. :-)
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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Mon May 06, 2019 1:03 pm

Monday, May 6

121.0

Eating
B: coffee w/milk & brain octane oil
L: yogurt w/berries + 3 pickles
D: beef salad bowl w/avocado & onion; 1 glass of milk
1 can diet sprite AND 1 cup kombucha after dinner

Moving
Walk/jog w/HappyHerder - going to work on going every day, even if it's only 10 minutes

PersonalLearning
The Unexpected Joy of Being Sober by Catherine Gray
Ever sworn off alcohol for a month and found yourself drinking by the 7th? Think there's 'no point' in just one drink? Welcome! There are millions of us.

Catherine Gray was stuck in a hellish whirligig of Drink, Make horrible decisions, Hangover, Repeat. She had her fair share of 'drunk tank' jail cells and topless-in-a-hot-tub misadventures.

But this book goes beyond the binges and blackouts to deep-dive into uncharted territory: What happens after you quit drinking? This gripping, heart-breaking and witty book takes us down the rabbit-hole of an alternative reality. A life with zero hangovers, through sober weddings, sex, Christmases and breakups.

In The Unexpected Joy of Being Sober, Catherine Gray shines a light on society's drink-pushing and talks to top neuroscientists and psychologists about why we drink, delving into the science behind what it does to our brains and bodies.

Much more than a tale from the netherworld of addicted drinking, this book is about the escape, and why a sober life can be more intoxicating than you ever imagined. Whether you're a hopelessly devoted drinker, merely sober-curious, or you've already ditched the drink, you will love this book.
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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by lpearlmom » Tue May 07, 2019 5:09 am

Wow, that book sounds pretty amazing. Let me know what you think of it, I may give it a go.

The counselor thing is tricky. Im always very honest in the beginning but then as time goes on i feel myself wanting to please them by making them think Im getting better which sometimes involves not being as honest as I originally was. Okay, that was a long sentence but hopefully that makes sense.
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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by oolala53 » Tue May 07, 2019 6:12 am

I ha en't caught up completely, but I got some good help re:food at various times from a book called Over the Influence. One tenet of harm reduction therapy is that the client comes to the conclusions about limits from education and experience. After years of aiming at moderation with certain foods, I'm now experimenting with pretty much abstinence from them for a few months. Am I kidding myself? I dunno. It just feels appropriate to experiment.

Contrastingly, most problem drinkers (not full-fledged alcoholics, which are a small subset) do eventually find a moderation program that works for them. The moderation might be relatively extreme, as in just a few drinks a year, but it varies. No way to know but to try and given that it doesn't sound like your habit has been life-threatening for you or anybody else, there's room for trying. But it could also mean a period of abstinence.

I feel for ya! It's crappy to feel in the grip of a substance, habit, or person. Warmest wishes!
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Jan/12-26.8
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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Tue May 07, 2019 1:43 pm

Im always very honest in the beginning but then as time goes on i feel myself wanting to please them by making them think Im getting better which sometimes involves not being as honest as I originally was.
Linda - this is EXACTLY what happens to me!!!! I guess a good counselor has a shelf-life based on this phenomenon!
One tenet of harm reduction therapy is that the client comes to the conclusions about limits from education and experience. After years of aiming at moderation with certain foods, I'm now experimenting with pretty much abstinence from them for a few months.
Oolala - Your description of the foods that you have tried to moderate and now are having extended abstinence from sums up my alcohol struggles pretty much perfectly. I continue to be amazed at the parallels we humans face in regard to whatever substances get a grip in our limbic systems. The human condition, I guess.
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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Tue May 07, 2019 1:51 pm

Tuesday, May 7

121.0

Eating
B: coffee w/milk + brain octane oil
L: yogurt w/berries + 3 pickles
D: double cheeseburger w/ avocado, onion, tomato, bacon + 1 glass of milk

Moving
walk/jog w/HappyHerder.
I have a goal to do this EVERY day for 30 days, even if I can only get out there for 10 minutes
I'm on "Coach.me" for 2 goals: No alcohol and Run. My username is Auto E. :-)

Drinking -
Saving at a rate of $5/day - on Thursday I will have enough for the Paperwhite Kindle for my Mother's Day gift.
Then I'll start over again and save for a couple of months until I get enough for one of the following:
*Oura Ring - on sale $60 off for Mother's day!!!
*Viome - on sale $250 off for Mother's day!!! This is crazy maybe I'll have to get them all.
(I do actually have the $$ because I am teaching extra classes this quarter - but in a way it's pretend $$ because it's accumulating each day I don't drink)

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https://www.outsideonline.com/2380751/s ... er-science
I love it when mainstream opinion finally starts to catch up with the science. In this case, sunlight is good for us in myriad ways, and sunscreen is not good for us.
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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by jenji » Tue May 07, 2019 9:39 pm

automatedeating wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 2:00 pm
Thursday, May 2

122.2

Kind of embarrassing thing happened. I shared some private things with my online coach and her reply made it pretty clear (in a very kind way) that she is a coach, not a counselor. Which of course I should have understood, but I felt filled with shame when I read her reply. My eyes are kind of filling up just typing this. Made me realize also how much shame and guilt I have built up around my drinking. I am so done with this! Bandwidth, emotional collateral, $, on and on. If this were a specific "S", I'd be ready to murder it.

Eating
B: coffee w/milk
L: yogurt w/berries
D: Date night. Ugh. What's date night without wine? Talk about going into the lion's den of temptations. :cry: :cry: But I know it's important to go on date night. Maybe tonight we can get take-out and watch a movie at home - set the kids up with their stuff. And, maybe splurge on food I would typically save for S Days. Yes, that's a good idea! We could get Indian Food - ah!!!! I'll run this idea by Sexy.
Update - The lamb coconut curry I had was amazing. I enjoyed every bite. In fact, I definitely could have had seconds "just for taste", as my 13-year old said. I asked him if he was full, and he said "Yes - I would only want to eat more because it tastes good". And I thought - "out of the mouths of babes". Unlike Challenger, though, I did have thoughts to get more on a couple of occasions throughout the evening. I ultimately drank TWO diet sprites, 1 glass of milk, and 1 cup of kombucha. But made it green to bed.

Moving
Got in two walks again yesterday, but today not. I have spent some time doing journal type stuff. I also have to get some more grading done. Teaching 5 classes this quarter and having active kids really means I am not home very often! Second walk yesterday was while waiting for kids' activity bus to return from track meet. Challenger, by the way, is fast! He's smooth like running water. :-)

PersonalLearning
Still reading "This Naked Mind". I generally like it, but some of her science is off (yes, that sort of thing bugs me) and she is sure in the camp of alcohol is a pure poison, bla bla bla. She's also a little woo-woo. Nonetheless, I'm probably coming around to be a tee-totaller, but this mental process is painful. Are all of these addiction books going to be so mushy? Any recommendations out there for me? :-)
And no offense to my online coach, but I kind of don't need what she's offering. It's like daily suggestions, etc. I guess what I actually want is a real counselor. Maybe. I also don't want to go see the counselor and have them give me a guilt trip for not obviously thinking I should abstain forever.
I, too, sometimes have the reaction to shame that I should avoid it at all cost, but in reality, when I can sit with shame and welcome it to just be with me, I can hear its message and move on. We tend to tell each other "you have nothing to be ashamed of!", which is often rationally true, but the shame is there for a reason, maybe a little bell to tell you something, and it may not be the obvious thing. E.g., it might not be "stop drinking". It might be "I have absorbed messages about addiction that carry a lot of emotional power", or "I have ideas about how a woman should act". If you listen to yourself, you may hear what it means for you.

I believe that shame is something that we should sit with more, and allow it to speak to us, in quiet reflection, without fear of what it might say. This sounds pretty airy-fairy, so take it with a grain of salt.
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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Wed May 08, 2019 2:09 pm

Thank you, Jen! I am feeling pretty airy-fairy these days (throw in a little woo-woo, too), so this is perfect. The counselor I'm going to see if super woo-woo, judging by his website. Maybe if I think he's a little cray-cray himself I won't give in as soon to the desire to impress him (like Linda says happens to her too!)

Wednesday, May 8

121.6

Eating
B: coffee w/milk & brain octane oil
L: (will be) yogurt w/berries + 3 pickles
D: (will be) taco meat salad - I'll use the last of the taco meat + cheese + avocado (can you tell we have ripe avocados this week? :-)

Moving
walk/jog w/HappyHerder. I'm on Day 4 of a 30 day - never miss a day - goal. Come to think of it - I really just want to never miss a day again. :mrgreen:

PersonalLearning
https://www.dietdoctor.com/video/podcast#19
Dr. Robert Cywes is an expert at weight loss surgeries. But if it were up to him, he might not do any of them. His first step is always to help his patients break their addiction to carbohydrates. He still uses surgery in the right situation, but he is the first to admit that surgery without addressing the underlying carbohydrate problem is destined to fail.
His focus on emotional attachment, finding an alternative to meet our emotional needs, and whole lifestyle intervention is a refreshing break from the “just have this surgery and everything gets better” approach. If you or a loved one is thinking about bariatric surgery or struggling with weight loss, this episode is for you.
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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Thu May 09, 2019 1:58 pm

Thursday, May 9

121.0

Eating
B: coffee w/milk & brain octane oil
L: yogurt w/berries + 3 pickles
D: will tonight be date night? I feel better about going out and avoiding wine than I did a week ago. So that's progress. Still probably best to get take-out and avoid temptation. Update - had a french dip sandwich with avocado slices added (sort of strange, I admit) + 1 large glass of milk. Apparently I am replacing a wine habit with a milk habit. :?:
Bummer - no date night. I forgot that tonight is Creator's Concert. :|
Go ahead and laugh it up (or cry, if you think this is super pathetic) - but I've realized a STRONG trigger for me to drink is kid school events. :| I realized I always have at least one big glass of wine before going (whatever I can slug down). Sexy always drives us to these things. Then I look forward to massively drinking once I get it over with. It's the combination of being bored out of my mind combined with having to talk and interact with other parents. Update - survived the concert. I didn't enjoy it, but thinking back to the last one (when I drank to "prepare" and then drank when I got home) I was actually in a better mood. I think the alcohol actually puts me in a cranky attitude toward the whole thing and lets me sort of wallow in my frustrations.
BUT. And this is a big BUT.
I want some sort of endorphin right now. Ice cream, junk, anything. I think I'll be fine until tomorrow, but I am feeling a little sorry for myself right now.

Moving
walk/jog w/HappyHerder. 5th day in a row. I'm on a "never miss a day again" kick. :lol: Because even on my laziest days I can go out with the dog for at least a few minutes.

Yesterday was a willpower day. I made it through fine but I want to document it here because I'm sure it drained some of my willpower.
First, my car wouldn't start (this is a once a year sort of thing at this point with this car). I had been hoping to head home from work and relax on my back patio. Nope. Spent the evening with AAA. They actually did get it started! Made me a new key and lubed up the ignition with WD40, basically. But then I went to the car dealership and I'm not kidding you - if they'd have sold me the Corolla I wanted for 10K, I'd have done the deal right that moment. I only have $7K saved, but I was ready to just finance the rest. But they wouldn't come down from 13K, so wait I will (which is for the best anyway). But it was fun to just look around and get a feel for the car-buying scene again. Summer was my original plan, by which I hope to have the rest of the money saved.

Oh, and then on the way home from the dealership I bought Creator the previously-agreed upon bribe of a milkshake. So I had to go through DQ line and resist. But then Sexy called and wanted me to pick up fast food from another place on the way home so then I had to smell fries in the car the rest of the way home.

But I made it. No wine. No ice cream. No fries.

Sleeping increasingly better, I think. Quality-wise. In fact, I'm not in bed as many hours but feel better when I get up.
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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by oolala53 » Fri May 10, 2019 3:47 am

Good lord, your life can be a minefield of food! Great job on building the resistance muscle. Stick to your moderate guns! Look at me, mixing metaphors like a sports writer....
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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by ladybird30 » Fri May 10, 2019 4:57 am

automatedeating wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 1:58 pm
Thursday, May 9

It's the combination of being bored out of my mind combined with having to talk and interact with other parents.
That sounds very familiar to me (just replace parents with any group of people I don't know very well). The easiest way I cope is to find an extrovert who likes talking about themselves and let them do all the heavy conversational lifting.
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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Fri May 10, 2019 2:13 pm

The easiest way I cope is to find an extrovert who likes talking about themselves and let them do all the heavy conversational lifting.
Bwahahaha! That is funny ladybird! The ironic thing here is that I am generally a talker; I just find mom talk to be so boring. So listening to someone else do mom talk and nodding my head politely appears to decrease my cup of patience/energy/whatever to nil.

Friday, May 10th

121.0

Eating
B: coffee w/milk, brain octane oil
L: work lunch with colleagues - I got Japanese curry and miso soup
D: nachos with the last of the taco meat.
weird eating day. Feels like I ate a lot but I am actually still hungry. Think I'll go pour a big glass of milk.

Moving
walk/jog w/HappyHerder. I felt quite sluggish this morning. Not tired like sleep-deprived or alcohol-withdrawal, sluggish like my body isn't used to running every morning for 6 days in a row. :-) I just went slow, more walking than jogging, and it was pretty short this morning as well.

I think I have mild agoraphobia. I am so hesitant to ever agree to go anywhere. This never used to be the case. I worry about my animals while I'm gone. But I'm feeling slightly more willing to be adventurous now that I've been alcohol-free for a few weeks.
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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Sat May 11, 2019 4:13 pm

Saturday, May 11

121.0

Eating
B: coffee w/milk & brain octane oil, eggs & a "rasher" of bacon. :-)
L: skipped due to extreme car shopping. :shock: Well, had a banana before the party.
D: Creator's party is at an indoor playground - gross pizza there. Maybe I'll wait. Update - I ate 2 pieces of pizza, but it was better than expected. Then I had 1/2 of a super gross cupcake and tossed the rest. Came home and had a bowl of ice cream
plenty of alcohol triggers for me today - decision making about cars; going to a kid event; and the sunny weather (who would have thought that would be a trigger but I have now learned it is). I think I have a lot of reframing/retraining of my ingrained habits. The harder piece is grieving and saying goodbye to the warm glow/high that the first glass of wine provides.

Moving
Walk/jog w/HappyHerder

Spending
will I buy a new car today? going to test drive with Challenger. :mrgreen:
I test drove 5 cars today:

Toyota Corolla
Hyundai Elantra
Mazda 3
Honda Civic
Kia Forte

I liked the Honda the best, but it was out of our price range. The Mazda and Hyundai had visibility issues for me (too-small back windows for a shortie like me). So it came down to the Corolla vs. the Forte. I ended up liking the Forte better based on personal preference, cost, and reviews, etc. So I think we'll go back tomorrow to buy it! Pretty exciting for us.
Month/Year-BMI
8/13-26.3; 8/14-24.5; 5/15-26.2; 1/16-26.9; 9/16-25.6; 8/17-25.8; 11/17-26.9; 3/18-25.6; 8/18-24.5; 10/18-23.8; 1/19-23.4; 2/19-22.7; 3/19-22.1

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Sun May 12, 2019 4:55 pm

Sunday, May 12th

Happy Mother's Day and Creator's Birthday! :-)

I got a Kindle Paperwhite for mother's day + Creator made me an amazing book. So sweet. I cried because my heart was full.
I have visions of reading in bright sunlight this summer with a diet sprite in hand.

120.4

Eating
B: coffee w/milk and brain octane oil, bacon & eggs
L: (will be) cheese pizza, apparently, since that was Creator's birthday request
D:
dessert 1: strawberry licorice
dessert 2: ice cream cake for celebration #2 for Creator's Birthday.
Some kombucha to really live it up.

Moving
walk/jog w/HappyHerder this morning.

PersonalLearning
I have discovered a new podcast!!!
It is called "ologies" and I've listened to three - Teuthology (study of cephalopods); Addictionology; and now Hematology. She is funny!

I'm doing well on the No Alcohol front. I'd like to share some thoughts about where I am with this after 3 weeks of abstinence.
1. I believe that dependence on alcohol is definitely on a spectrum. I believe that by making the difference dichotomous (alcoholic vs. normal drinker) many people like myself may delay working on our dependence issues. I personally think we should get rid of the term alcoholic altogether and use the phrase "alcohol dependence" with prefixes like mild, moderate, severe.
2. I have discovered some interesting triggers - and discovered that they are many! For example, virtually any social interaction with a group. I hate it. I hate it! And I like to "self-medicate" to get through it. This tells me - "girl, don't go to parties. You don't like them." That doesn't mean I don't want to hang out with people; on the contrary, I do great hanging with one or two other people. And as a non-drinker now, I want to have one of my replacement activities be to focus on deepening the friendships that I do actually care about. A few other discovered triggers are - busy day, big accomplishment, sunny weather (?), having to politely listen to someone that is boring me.
3. I have talked with Sexy about staying Alcohol free indefinitely and I told both of my sisters I am working on this.
4. Continuing to work with online accountability coach and on May 27th I'll visit the substance abuse counselor for the first time.
5. And lastly, I continue to ponder the parallels of "over"eating with "over"drinking. In my case, after 5 years of multiple failed moderation attempts, I finally am trying abstinence. If this were a food thing, I guess that would mean completely eliminating a particular food that I have tried to moderate for 5 years without success. Think about how difficult it is to pass up alcohol in a social setting without seeming weird. Well, think how people try to force others to eat desserts or other food items. The guilt, the pressure, it's all inappropriate. And I have always disagreed that we should "give in" to our friends and family when they press sweets on us. I find it a little offensive, to be honest. When I consider it in light of how it would be if you substituted alcohol in that situation, well damn, I find it even more offensive. Leave us alone and eat your own chocolate cake, Grandma. :lol:
Month/Year-BMI
8/13-26.3; 8/14-24.5; 5/15-26.2; 1/16-26.9; 9/16-25.6; 8/17-25.8; 11/17-26.9; 3/18-25.6; 8/18-24.5; 10/18-23.8; 1/19-23.4; 2/19-22.7; 3/19-22.1

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Mon May 13, 2019 2:27 pm

Monday, May 13

120.2

Eating
B: coffee w/milk and brain octane oil
L: (will be) yogurt w/berries
D: (will be) maybe hamburgers?

Moving
walk/jog w/HappyHerder

PersonalLearning
Sexology: I can't seem to link from my computer but it's from a podcast called "ologies" and it is my new favorite.
I've already listened to one that's all about squid (teuthology), all about addiction (addictionology), all about blood (hematology). They are great - the host is so funny. Much lighter than my Peter Attia podcast. :-)
Month/Year-BMI
8/13-26.3; 8/14-24.5; 5/15-26.2; 1/16-26.9; 9/16-25.6; 8/17-25.8; 11/17-26.9; 3/18-25.6; 8/18-24.5; 10/18-23.8; 1/19-23.4; 2/19-22.7; 3/19-22.1

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by Octavia » Tue May 14, 2019 7:45 am

automatedeating wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 2:13 pm
The easiest way I cope is to find an extrovert who likes talking about themselves and let them do all the heavy conversational lifting.
Bwahahaha! That is funny ladybird! The ironic thing here is that I am generally a talker; I just find mom talk to be so boring. So listening to someone else do mom talk and nodding my head politely appears to decrease my cup of patience/energy/whatever to nil.
Oh Lord, I am exactly the same. So relieved I am past this stage. Mom talk is exhausting and although I too am quite a talker, I’d feel my life force draining away during these chats. I will remember Ladybird’s term ‘heavy conversational lifting’. It’s what I do when we see FIL. DH just goes on his phone while I express interest in films/plays I haven’t seen and people I don’t know. I find cheerful responses and comments. I have precisely one hour of ‘battery power’ on these occasions, after which I go to the toilet and cradle my head in my hands.

So I’m not laughing about your challenges regarding school events, Auto. :) During these times we are unplugged from any source of interest or stimulation - no hope of meeting our needs - our brains become desperate for a fix, and after these things I would always be desperate for a pizza and wine. They simply use masses of willpower.

Hope your day goes well, without too many willpower drains!

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Tue May 14, 2019 3:03 pm

It’s what I do when we see FIL. DH just goes on his phone while I express interest in films/plays I haven’t seen and people I don’t know. I find cheerful responses and comments. I have precisely one hour of ‘battery power’ on these occasions, after which I go to the toilet and cradle my head in my hands.
Bwahaha! This is me with my MIL!!!!! They are actually visiting this weekend and I'm already dreading having to discuss the importance of all-weather floor mats, cabinets that close without slamming, and how to teach kids to sort their own laundry.

Tuesday, May 14th

119.8 (!)

Eating
B: coffee w/milk + brain octane oil
L: yogurt w/berries
D: tortilla chips w/leftover steak + guac; 2 eggs and a piece of bacon.
1 glass of milk
1 diet sprite
OK folks here I am at the end of the quarter (which for me, starts halfway through the quarter! LOL) Last quarter this is when everything started to fall apart and I started drinking wine almost daily again. It's also where my eating patterns lose their planning. I just had to cancel my classes for the second day in a row because Creator is sick with a cold. I'm going in for just one lab this afternoon, and a coworker is helping to cover this morning. I owe her big time.
It gets tricky to have to miss school as a teacher!

Moving
walk/jog w/HappyHerder

Spending
Bought a new car - Kia Forte. :-) My first brand new car. Quite the experience.

PersonalLearning
2-part Ology on sleep - my new favorite podcast:
https://www.alieward.com/ologies/somnology

Finished "Alcohol Lied to Me":
Craig Beck is a well-regarded family man with two children, a beautiful home, and a successful media career. A director of several companies & at one time the trustee of a large children’s charity. Craig was a successful & functioning professional man in spite of a ‘2 bottles of wine a night’ drinking habit. For 20 years he struggled with problem drinking, all the time refusing to label himself an alcoholic because he didn't believe he met the stereotypical image that the word portrayed.He tried countless ways to cut down; attempting ‘dry months,’ banning himself from drinking spirits, only drinking at the weekend & special occasions (and found that it is amazing how even the smallest of an event can suddenly become ‘special’). All these 'willpower' based attempts to stop drinking failed (exactly as they were destined to do). Slowly he discovered the truth about alcohol addiction & one by one all the lies he had previously believed started to fall apart. For the first time, he noticed that he genuinely didn’t want to drink anymore. In this book, he will lead you through the same fantastic process.The Craig Beck quit drinking method is unique: No need to declare yourself an alcoholic. A permanent cure, not a lifetime struggle. No group meetings or expensive rehab.No humiliation, no pain and 100% no ‘willpower’ required. Treats the source of the problem, not just the symptoms.
Month/Year-BMI
8/13-26.3; 8/14-24.5; 5/15-26.2; 1/16-26.9; 9/16-25.6; 8/17-25.8; 11/17-26.9; 3/18-25.6; 8/18-24.5; 10/18-23.8; 1/19-23.4; 2/19-22.7; 3/19-22.1

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Wed May 15, 2019 2:31 pm

Wednesday, May 15th

119.2

OK folks have I lost weight because of no alcohol? Everything else is the same food-wise - actually, I've been having much more milk than ever before. I consider it a nice treat instead of wine. And my milk is 6% milkfat so the calories are 210 in just one cup. :lol: AND I'm adding brain octane oil to my coffee in the morning - that's another 260 calories (no, I don't count calories but I'm trying to make the point that I'm probably consuming the same or more calories than I was when I had 2-3 glasses of wine in the evening)
If so, remind me of this if I'm tempted to go back on the sauce. :mrgreen:

Eating
B: coffee w/milk + brain octane oil
L: yogurt w/berries + 1 pickle
D: bacon & eggs & toast & 1 glass of milk
1 cup kombucha

Moving
walk/jog - only 10 min - w/HappyHerder - had to drop Creator off at school at 6:40 for a 3-day field trip!!! He's been sick since last Thursday so hopefully he does OK on the trip. But I wanted to be able to check off "RUN" on my coach.me dashboard. :lol:

PersonalLearning
https://www.alieward.com/ologies/epidemiology
How much should you wash your hands? What's the best way to flirt with a stranger on a bus? Why are people scared of vaccines? What conspiracy theory enthralls Alie? Two epidemiologists-named-Erin and hosts of the stellar This Podcast Will Kill You chat about historical horror stories, plagues, flus, tick bombs, milkmaids, witch trials and more as they share their passion for disease ecology.

Note - sent in my Viome sample! Results w/in 3-6 weeks. :-)
Month/Year-BMI
8/13-26.3; 8/14-24.5; 5/15-26.2; 1/16-26.9; 9/16-25.6; 8/17-25.8; 11/17-26.9; 3/18-25.6; 8/18-24.5; 10/18-23.8; 1/19-23.4; 2/19-22.7; 3/19-22.1

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by nettee » Wed May 15, 2019 9:04 pm

Well done - sounds like the change has made a difference
3 tasty meals a day and loving it

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by oolala53 » Thu May 16, 2019 12:54 am

I saw a post on my thread awhile ago in which you said you had bought a scale that measures bodyfat. Is it a bad time to ask for your assessment on it? It was pretty inexpensive. Not that I'm in the market, but am curious.
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 9 years & counting
Age 65
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
Mar/18 22.2

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Thu May 16, 2019 2:28 pm

Hi Oolala! I don't even remember the brand right now -- it was only about $30 if I remember correctly. It's a great little scale, although honestly I don't know how super accurate the body fat, bone mass, muscle mass, water %, etc. actually are. I did compare it with the expensive one at school and also with calipers and it did match, so that's a good sign. But it's no water tank or DEXA scan. Mostly what I like is how it keeps my weight on an app and makes a graph for me over time.

Thursday, May 16

120.2

Eating
B: coffee w/milk + brain octane oil
L: yogurt w/berries + 3 pickles
D: beef bowl salad w/ guac, onion, tomato, cheese
1 cup kombucha
1 cup milk, maybe warmed. 8)

Moving
walk/jog w/HappyHerder

Creator is on his field trip and we got a call last night and again this morning because he still wasn't feeling good. :cry: This is rough. He is a state away and I feel pretty worried about him. My parents live closer, actually, so in a pinch I'll have them go get him.

PersonalLearning
Sober Ever After: A Memoir
Jackie Elliott loves her wine. It makes her feel confident and helps to relieve her anxiety. Drinking wine is normal! Drinking wine is fun!
Until it isn’t.
Jackie refuses to believe she has problem, after all she doesn’t live under a bridge, she is still quite thin (and therefore healthy), and is quite able to function!
As Jackie’s “Drunken Magical Thinking” propels her into a toxic relationship, and her life begins to disintegrate, Jackie has this nagging thought that maybe she should cut down on the booze..
When Jackie starts to have blackouts – complete gaps in her memory after only a few glasses of wine, she suspects that the party might be coming to an end.
Month/Year-BMI
8/13-26.3; 8/14-24.5; 5/15-26.2; 1/16-26.9; 9/16-25.6; 8/17-25.8; 11/17-26.9; 3/18-25.6; 8/18-24.5; 10/18-23.8; 1/19-23.4; 2/19-22.7; 3/19-22.1

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by jenji » Thu May 16, 2019 7:07 pm

automatedeating wrote:
Fri May 03, 2019 1:42 pm
Ladybird, I bet you are absolutely right. I was just thinking last night that maybe I'd call my insurance today and learn about if any counseling is covered. I've always just paid out-of-pocket in the past, but I don't want to this time. Feeling weird about counseling this time, rather than excited or looking forward to it. :|

My coach actually did give me a cool exercise to work on this weekend - she asked me to draw a flower on a page. The 5 roots should be labeled with my "self-care" activities (this forum is totally one of those, btw), 5 petals with my personal strengths, and then, nearby, 5 weeds labeled with my main life stressors. Ah, how can I weed my garden today? 8)

Moving
Not much. This quarter, teaching 5 classes, I literally feel like I can't push any harder. I sometimes have to use my morning time for reflection (hello forum friends), followed by an hour of grading. By about 4pm, when I finish, my body just isn't cooperating or being productive for grading, curriculum design, or student feedback. The pattern seems to be that I can get 2-3 morning walks/week right now, and that'll have to be OK this quarter. Today I'll try to get a walk in at some point, but this early morning time is my most productive work time. Even spending time journaling or working on alcohol reflections seems like a luxury - but truthfully, this is probably the most significant self-care I do. Not to say the only self-care thing.

PersonalLearning
I appear to have an obsession right now with understanding why, after quitting alcohol, I feel so groggy in the mornings. Quite the opposite of what you'd expect, but I have experienced this before. I wake up early and unable to sleep after drinking the night before (I understand this part physiologically), but I haven't found a entirely satisfying explanation for the groggy mornings without alcohol (I am a morning lark, so it's not normal for me to be groggy in the morning). Will this ever go away? I hope I haven't permanently damaged my neurotransmitters. :|
Update - I found this single sentence that I want to explore more: I learned that heavy drinking boosts levels of acetate ( a chemical found in vinegar) in the brain, that translates into extra energy for the body. from: https://www.recoveryconnection.com/the- ... -drinking/
What's interesting about this is that a) acetate is actually a form of a ketone; and b) this could explain why I've read clinical trials in which the ketogenic diet was a big help for those in alcohol withdrawal.

Update - mystery comfortably solved. I was a habitual drinker. This meant that I would often have 3 glasses of wine (for someone my size, this is probably a helluvalot). The acetate metabolites from the wine would fuel my brain in the early morning hours, so when I first got up, I actually was somewhat energized. Removing the alcohol meant less morning fuel for my brain, and apparently a level of inability to use glucose for energy. So. Now I wake up groggy. No acetate. Inhibited ability to metabolize glucose in my brain. There is going to be a period of adjustment. I think it could take several months, but perhaps I shouldn't have a firm time period like that, in case it takes much longer.
This is so interesting to me about the grogginess. It explains one of the reasons that it is so hard to cut back, because one doesn't see the benefits that we'd expect right away.
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Current weight 168#, BMI 25.9- 11/18/2018

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Fri May 17, 2019 2:13 pm

Hi Jen - quitting for me seems to be different every week.
Week 1 - headache every day.
Week 2 - overwhelming fatigue, especially in the mornings
(note - I will say that my sleep improved almost immediately, but it was like I was starving for sleep and just couldn't get enough)
Week 3 - energy returned and I felt really good
Week 4 - has seen a return of headaches (maybe from my pull-ups, though, not sure why) and kind of a sadness, a grieving for the loss of alcohol. I feel subdued and tired again.

Friday, May 17

120.8

Eating
B: coffee w/milk + brain octane oil
L: yogurt w/berries
1 cup milk
D: salmon & broccoli
1 cup kombucha

Moving
Walk/jog w/HappyHerder. Felt sluggish and tired and have a headache. But I went.

PersonalLearning
Oologies - Sharks:
https://www.alieward.com/ologies/selach ... ?rq=sharks
SHAAAARKS. Leading shark researcher Dr. Chris Lowe dishes about bad shark PR, behind-the-scenes Jaws trivia, his thoughts on Sharknado, surfing safety, immune system marvels, cannibal twins, shark personalities, sea sex, and knife teeth. Alie learns that sharks are not the ocean's sociopaths but true evolutionary marvels who suffer from sensationalized reputations and sometimes inside-out butts. Listen up as a science primer during this, the holy Week of the Shark.


Also continuing Sober Ever After

And in the car today, I'm driving somewhere an hour away - I've picked out my favorite topic to listen to (I've been saving up for this one to enjoy it in glory:)

https://www.alieward.com/ologies/microbiology-gut-biome
LOVE YOUR GUTS. 90% of your serotonin is made in your guts and you have hundreds of trillions of friends clinging to you at all times. Microbiologist Dr. Elaine Hsiao is a total badass who runs her own lab investigating the role of the gut biome in animal behaviors. She sat down to chat about anxiety, depression, elusive fecal transplants, autism, epilepsy, kombucha promises, autoimmune disorders, probiotics and more. Alie fanned out pretty hard and asked all of the questions about how your beloved, simmering insides affect your brain. It's gut-busting, mind-blowing info.
Month/Year-BMI
8/13-26.3; 8/14-24.5; 5/15-26.2; 1/16-26.9; 9/16-25.6; 8/17-25.8; 11/17-26.9; 3/18-25.6; 8/18-24.5; 10/18-23.8; 1/19-23.4; 2/19-22.7; 3/19-22.1

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by Soprano » Fri May 17, 2019 2:51 pm

I've been interested in the impact of the microbiome on mental and physical health since I read a good book on the subject last year.

So much about our bodies we still don't know
Never give up on a dream just because of the time it will take to accomplish it. The time will pass anyway.

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by Octavia » Fri May 17, 2019 3:05 pm

Fascinating! I've just started taking probiotics, after being a lifelong sceptic regarding supplements. I'm aware my gut has never been the same since I had gastroenteritis in my teens, and my anxiety troubles started straight afterwards, too. Really excited by the fact that gut bacteria (and its effect on our mental health) is getting more attention right now: it's certainly made me wonder if there's more I can do to help myself.

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Fri May 17, 2019 10:24 pm

Soprano and Octavia - not sure if I mentioned yet that I sent a stool sample in to Viome
https://www.viome.com/

and I am SOOOOO excited to see my results! I'm going to analyze them with my students.
Month/Year-BMI
8/13-26.3; 8/14-24.5; 5/15-26.2; 1/16-26.9; 9/16-25.6; 8/17-25.8; 11/17-26.9; 3/18-25.6; 8/18-24.5; 10/18-23.8; 1/19-23.4; 2/19-22.7; 3/19-22.1

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by Soprano » Sat May 18, 2019 5:02 am

I'd be interested in the results, was thinking of sending one myself but never got around to it


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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Sat May 18, 2019 4:57 pm

Saturday, May 18

120.0

S Day

Eating
B: coffee w/milk + brain octane oil, cinnamon roll
L: tortillas w/guacamole, strawberry licorice, diet ginger ale
D: 1/2 a cheeseburger, some french fries, a side salad
dessert: vanilla ice cream

Moving
walk/jog w/HappyHerder - mostly in the woods this morning which was very peaceful.

PersonalLearning
How I Quit Drinking (and how you can too) by Jackie Elliott
Feeling stuck in the drinking spiral? Tried to moderate, but fail every time? Tired of waking up with low level hangover every day, sick of your "booze boobs" and lack of energy?
Quitting drinking is HARD. And worse than that, you feel all alone, because the WHOLE WORLD loves booze!
But you know you have to do something. It's getting worse, and you are feeling out of control. You are frightened that you'll end up as an.......alcoholic (whispers)
Jackie was in the exact same place. And wrote this book for YOU, to guide you through your sober journey without going to any meetings if you don't want to!
This book is a road map. It doesn't hold the 'secret short cut' to sobriety, because there are none, but it does sign-post you through the "getting sober" and guide you towards "living sober" (two very different things).
This book is full of practical guidance for all the phases of the sober journey - what to do when your first pink cloud dissipates, how do you prepare for your first sober outing, why aren't your friends cheering you on? What's up with that?
And when do you actually get to BE sober? And is there life beyond this journey - in the scary new non-drinking world?
This book acknowledges that this journey is dual purpose - to ditch the booze and find oneself - and the power and success of recovery comes when you can use sobriety as a tool in your life, rather than a destination.
Everybody has a unique sober journey - but everyone's path goes in the same direction. This book will help you get there, hopefully without too many detours.
Month/Year-BMI
8/13-26.3; 8/14-24.5; 5/15-26.2; 1/16-26.9; 9/16-25.6; 8/17-25.8; 11/17-26.9; 3/18-25.6; 8/18-24.5; 10/18-23.8; 1/19-23.4; 2/19-22.7; 3/19-22.1

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Sun May 19, 2019 4:26 pm

Sunday, May 19

121.2

Eating
B: bacon & eggs & hashbrowns, coffee w/milk + brain octane oil
L: Reese's Pieces
D: buffet food - salmon, steak, ham + steamed vegetables
dessert: soft serve ice cream + an interesting cookie/bar type item

Moving
walk/jog w/HappyHerder

heading out for my anniversary trip! See you all Tuesday or Wednesday. :lol:
Month/Year-BMI
8/13-26.3; 8/14-24.5; 5/15-26.2; 1/16-26.9; 9/16-25.6; 8/17-25.8; 11/17-26.9; 3/18-25.6; 8/18-24.5; 10/18-23.8; 1/19-23.4; 2/19-22.7; 3/19-22.1

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Re: automated eating tracker

Post by automatedeating » Tue May 21, 2019 10:51 pm

Monday, May 20

Eating
B: bacon & egg sandwich, latte
L: skipped
D: cheeseburger + onion rings
dessert: chocolate mousse - ugh, it was too sweet and I felt kind of sick from it.

Moving
4 mile hike

Tuesday, May 21

Eating
B: bacon, eggs, hashbrowns; coffee w/milk
L: See's candy sample in the store
D: (will be) pot roast, mashed potatoes

Moving
6 mile walk/jog bringing the dog home from the boarding kennel!
Month/Year-BMI
8/13-26.3; 8/14-24.5; 5/15-26.2; 1/16-26.9; 9/16-25.6; 8/17-25.8; 11/17-26.9; 3/18-25.6; 8/18-24.5; 10/18-23.8; 1/19-23.4; 2/19-22.7; 3/19-22.1

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