Everyday Systems

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Some people put a whole fruit on their plate next to the sandwich and chips, etc. I personally prefer cutting fruit into squares, sometimes as fruit salad, and eating it as part of my meal. I often have fruit and yogurt for breakfast, or let it occupy about 1/4 of my supper plate when I'm having a b...

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alice2002 wrote: If I am able to make it through March and April with green days (with at least 80-90% success) and I'm still not losing, I'll cut out my Friday treat.

OR... I don't know what your Sunday evenings look like, but you might consider doing S days from Friday afternoon to Sunday afternoon.

osoniye

Saturday S day B: peanuts, 1 egg +cheese/toast, butter, plums, strawberries L: lunch out with Meaghan: Concept Cafe: chicken sandwich, fries, coffee Snack at IEC: chips, wafer cookies, mini-creampuffs S: (skipped) Had slightly mixed feelings about this S day, as I caught a reflection of myself in a ...

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Thanks eschano and automated! Fr140314 First NWS day of March B: veggie burger/carrots/roasted grains, coffee L: bean soup/strawberries, bread sticks S: @Cor's: Seconds of creamy egg curry on rice, vegetable salad, 1" cake cube, spicy snack mix. I weighed today (try to every couple of weeks) and fou...

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Mmmmm ribs!

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Th140313 B: coffee with milk L: soup/breadsticks, roasted grain S: 1 egg +cheese/mellon, plums Didn't manage to get breakfast this morning. Was hungry by lunchtime, but not inordinately so. Supper was fine, but again, I didn't feel like I was starving. Wonder if my appetite is matching my needs more...

osoniye

Hi Oolala, Sorry to hear you're struggling a bit just now. You've been a great support on these boards, I wish I could say something truly profound and helpful. Assuming your BMI is still around that in your signature, you are at a healthy weight. It seems that fat cells never forget, and it may be ...

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Hi, leanerman- Hang in there... the main thing at this point, is not to drift away. Keep posting here and keep starting over each new day and eventually you will find your way. It helps me a lot to read old threads and see what worked (and what didn't) for others who have gone before.

osoniye

Hi, 4islandgirls- Congratulations on 2 green weeks! It sounds like you have really taken to NoS and it is working for you! That's great.

osoniye

Hi and welcome. Usually alcoholic drinks are not counted as "seconds" or not, though there is another everyday system for limiting alcohol consumption. Mostly, for the purposes of the NoS diet, drinks that are not very sweet, are neutral.

osoniye

Hi schnopkins- Welcome. Good to have you. I trust you will find these boards supportive and helpful, as I have. I normally eat lunch and supper off a 9" plate with a rim, but if I'm having a salad for my meal I usually go with lots of watery vegetables (lettuce, tomato, cucumber, cauliflower) and a ...

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Hi Jill,
Mmmmm... sauteed rockfish... shrimp and steak Mexican bowl... sounds like your meals are yummy enough to support being able to walk away from sweet snacks at book club! Good on you for sticking with the wine only and having an N day.

osoniye

Thanks for the encouragement, Lpearlmom. We140312 B: veggie burgers/tomato, mayo L: soup/carrots/strawberries S: 1 egg +cheese/strawberries/roasted grains, peanuts, 2 bread sticks I really enjoyed my breakfast this morning, nice to feel pleasantly hungry. This time, committing to NoS is going better...

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Thanks, automated! It does feel great! Tu140311 B: (heavy breakfast out) 1 plate of savory pancake and beef meet/offal L: (skipped) S: bread sticks A disordered day, meal-wise. Got pulled into various activities. Breakfast was late and heavy, and I wasn't hungry till evening but didn't want to be ov...

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Monday:
B: 1 egg, beef and cheese omelet/toast, black coffee
L: soup/toast with apple butter
S: veggie burgers/tomato, mayo/plums
Very normal NoS day!

osoniye

Hi Linda, I agree, your vegan meals sound so yummy.
Just curious, how do you make your "Soy mocha"?

osoniye

Hi Automated- Just mulling over the question you asked about if you seem like a perfectionist... I wonder if in the area of teaching you might have your identity tied up more in it, because you're a professional, and want to reach a certain standard, and some of that standard is in the feedback you ...

osoniye

Sunday- S day
S day treat- packet of hot cocoa in my morning coffee
L: International buffet- seconds, and a small sweet (+multivitamin)
Evening snack: toast, butter, peanut butter (+Calcium supplement)
All good. "Can't fail on an S day!"

osoniye

Saturday: S day
B: veggie burgers/tomato, mayo/cantaloupe, coffee
L: lg bowl soup
Sweet Snack: 2 fun sized butterfingers and 4 sm pc chocolate
S: broiled marinated beef cubes/bread/carrots
No amazing S events, but the chocolates were nice.

osoniye

For me, it's having a disrupted schedule and simultaneously having access to a lot of food or too many sweets, etc. In these almost 4 years of NoS, I've gone off for a few months at a time, several times. For example, I went on a 2 week vacation this past July, and considered it a as all S days... t...

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Fr140307 N Day Success B: several cups coffee with milk and creamer L: vegan lunch plate S: pot luck success- 1 plate: 1 small slice ground beef pizza, mashed potatoes, sm meat/veg +gravy, 1 non-sweet crepe, fruit. Amazed at having a successful pot luck meal. I grabbed one of the larger plates, but ...

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Hi eveninglightwriter- Congratulations on the 3# loss. That's great. Homemade beef stroganoff sounds really yummy. Hope you enjoy the waffles if you decide to go for them on Saturday. Sounds like a nice treat! Yeah, besides cheaper, aren't homemade chocolate chip cookies just so much better than Sna...

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Th140306 B: liver +broiled marinated beef cubes/cantaloupe, black coffee, roasted grain L: soup S: veggie burger/tomatoes, carrots, yogurt Gaining strength back, enjoying my meals. Ate veggie soup for lunch that didn't have enough substance to it, so piled the supper plate high, but it was mostly to...

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We140305
B: broiled marinated beef cubes/plums
L: lg bowl gumbo
S: veggie burger/carrots, tomato, yogurt
Feeling a little better. Enjoyed all my food today.

osoniye

Thanks, Lpearlmom and eschano!

Tu140304
B: veggie burger/tomato, mayo, black coffee
L: lg bowl gumbo
S: snacky supper: 2 (non-sweet) muffins, handful of roasted grain, few strawberries

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Mo140303
B: egg salad +veggie burger/tomatoes, mayo, black coffee
L: (vegan lunch out)
S: skipped
Have a head cold, after just getting over the flu or whatever it was from the week before last. Wish I could stay home, but this is a heavy workweek again. Not much appetite again.

osoniye

Thanks for words of support Marianna. Hi oolala- Thanks for stopping by and commenting. Yeah, the dreaded "sometimes" clause. I really don't like that the reality of moderation (and weight loss) really does mean that S treats are only sometimes. Sigh. I guess that's what I will live with in my borin...

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Welcome, eveninglightwriter! It's great to have you here. I'm sure you'll find this community very friendly and helpful, as I have.

osoniye

Hi Marianna, I first misread your post as "10 egg cheese eng. muffins", by mistake... that sounded like a big way to splash into an S day! It IS kind of bittersweet to find one can't comfortably consume the usual amount of lovely food, when used to eating less. Hope you will come to enjoy the smalle...

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OK, folks, this is my first try at a monthly challenge... I still reserve the right to decide on 2 NWS days at the last minute. 1 S 2 S 3 N Success 4 N Success 5 N Success 6 N Success 7 N Success 8 S 9 S 10 N 11 N 12 N 13 N 14 NWS 15 S 16 S 17 N 18 N 19 N 20 N 21 N 22 S 23 S 24 N 25 N 26 N 27 N 28 N...

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...have you already addressed the possibility of planning some nice treats for your S Days as a way to make sure you get something special on those days? Hi automated- thanks for stopping by. I'm in kind of an odd situation. I live in a developing country at very high altitude, and I am single. The...

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Su140302 S day... B: egg salad/cantaloupe, coffee w/milk L: yogurt/raw broccoli/pumpkin, butter S: fried cubed beef, onion/grated carrots Hmmm, here we are with another Sunday when I'm not having any S's in the program. The temptation is strong to start floating S days, but I will remain strong! My ...

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Hi Everyone- I'm bumping up this delightful and informative thread, though many of the original posters are no longer so active on here.
Vmsurbat - did you wind up buying the "Eating Well - Serves Two- 150 Healthy In a Hurry Suppers" for the happy couple?

osoniye

Hi Everyone- Just bumping up this interesting and helpful thread. I'm not at this tweaking point yet, but it's good to see the stages and timeframes involved in getting where one wants to be. (This bump-up is inspired by chentegt's encouraging recent testimonial!)

osoniye

Thanks, automated! Sa140301 S day B: egg salad/plums L: yogurt/beets/carrots S: out with Cor: 1/2 small pizza, mineral water, 6 or so chocolate cookies So here we are- an S day and I don't have the temptation of office cookies. I'm remembering why I have done floating S events and days in the past- ...

osoniye

I absolutely stink at virtual plating (taking less on a plate or using a too-small plate, knowing I'll need more than one plate to get a decent meal). I almost always end up overeating in such situations. I believe I have a very good sense of portion control, but once I "break up" a meal, my reason...

osoniye

Hi, Joy4aub: A lot of people put the bowl on a plate and then put other food like bread or a salad around it. I, personally, tend to consider 2 normal sized bowls of soup the equivalent amount of food that would have fit on a plate had it not been so watery.

osoniye

Yeah, Marianna, it is a challenge when the sweets are just there. Sometimes I can manage to resist, and other times it just seems like too much to ask! Fr140228 B: egg salad/plums L: fish&soybean burger/beets/carrots, tomatoes, mayo (This was a very yummy colorful meal!) S: liver/pumpkin/broccoli

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Th140227 fail
B: egg salad/plums, coffee w/milk +few cookies
L: liver/beets/grapefruit +pineapple
S: soy burger/tomato, carrots, mayo
Another fail on the cookies. Today was the last day working in the place where the cookies are a problem, I'm glad to say.

osoniye

Hi finallyfull- I don't have any philosophical or moral ideas... mine would be more to work around the situation... either to change the tradition to Something Else on Friday evenings and do pizza as a new tradition on Saturday or Sunday evenings, or to take Fri/Sat S days or do sundown Fri to sundo...

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Welcome leanerman- good to have you on the boards. Working around food is hard, I know. Sometimes it has helped me in the past to keep saying "not my food" to myself, in situations where a lot of eating is going on, and it's not my planned mealtimes or not the food I had decided to eat that day. You...

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My bites tend to be around 10-15 per meal when I am losing weight. If I want to maintain my weight, 30 bites per meal (this is what I was eating when I did my "bite count test run") Hi Marianna- Sorry to hear about the bad day yesterday. Might you consider allowing the bites you normally eat when l...

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We140226 fail
B: coffee with milk
L: vegetables and chic pea soup on sourdough pancake, few cookies
S: beef +soy beans/ leftover carrots, broccoli
Ate a few cookies after lunch, which were yummy... but perhaps not a great reason for a fail.

osoniye

Hi snapdragon- Good for you, for not going overboard with dinner, even after a small fail with the candy and potatoes. That counts as a small victory in my opinion!

osoniye

Thanks, automated. I am really looking forward to that!

Tu140225 2nd NWS day of February
B: yogurt/plums
L: liver/rice/salad
Snack: 1 slice cake, few chips
S: burger/fries/catsup

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Mo140224
B: sunflower cheese/beets
L: mix vegetables on sourdough pancake
S: fish +rice soup
A nice plain N day...

osoniye

Hi Mirianna- That's a very creative choice for a drink, and probably very wise to get your extra, low calorie nutrients in, with the restrictions inherent in bite counting. Good for you!

osoniye

Feeling low energy, if not sick. Took a nap today. am.: coffee with milk L: Philly steak and cheese sandwich, fries, catsup, mineral water S: fish/pumpkin/plums Didn't have any S today, though it's an official S day. I could have had something sweet at a cafe after lunch, but opted for home and a na...

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Hi tobiasmom- Looks like a tame S day to me, too! Glad you feel like you're getting your No-S mojo back.
Tea sounds like a great way to occupy yourself instead of snacking, etc. in the evenings. Substitutions are always better than just trying to stop something, and thus creating a vacuum!

osoniye

Thanks, jw
The fever seems to be gone but I'm still achy and grumpy. Hope that subsides soon, too!
S day: In the morning I ate a small plum. Lunch was Korean restaurant food, 4 dishes shared 4 ways, and cafe late to finish the meal. Skipped dinner.

osoniye

Still feeling yucky, but appetite slowly coming back...
B: liver/melon, plums
L: soy beans/beets/carrots, mayo, roasted grain
S: soup: beef broth, beef cubes/onions, macaroni

osoniye

Yeah... what you eat, and your weight are really none of your sister's business, whether you communicate that verbally or just by not engaging with her on it. Keeping boundaries with family members can be so challenging (sigh). (Lunch sounds like an unplanned virtual plate... sort of a grey area, bu...

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Hi 4islandgirls, Condolences for the loss of your mom. That is one of life's difficult times that is normally expected and unpreventable, but nonetheless very painful. Good for you for turning to a more therapeutic alternative in taking a hot bath rather than turning to food, to provide some physica...

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Thanks, Linda. Trying to get better... Feeling some better today, but still low grade fever on and off and very poor appetite. Tempted to do more around the house than I probably should as some people are coming tomorrow. B: 1 slice toast with peanut butter L: 1/2 serving sourdough pancake with frie...

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Thanks, r.jean.
Still sick with low grade fever. Not eating much, not worrying about taking S days, as I'm lucky to eat 3 half plates or so!

osoniye

Wow, sounds like a wonderful and romantic weekend. So glad you could have such a nice break!

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Mo140217 S day- I'm sick. Wound up developing a 101 degree fever over the course of the day. I feel miserable. Only ate a little over half of my lunch. I had stashed a piece of candy from the office, planning to save it for Saturday, but am laying in bed consuming it now. Being sick calls for measur...

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Hi automated- yeah, it was really good! Su140216 B: grilled liver and onions/melon w/cinnamon L: fish/mushrooms +tomato sauce/salad, Italian dressing S: fried cubed beef/onions, pumpkin /plums I decided not to have any S type of things today, and there is that "sometimes" clause. There is not anythi...

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Hi jw, Congrats on getting down to pre-holiday weight. Mid-Feb you're already ahead of a large part of the population who creep up a few # at holiday time and then it accumulates every year. Your soup sounds yummy! It puts me to thinking about what other casserole type things could be deconstructed ...

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Yeah, jw, no chocolate lurking around in MY cupboard! Always happy when a bullet is dodged, oolala. Sa140215 S day! B: fried cubed beef/onions, grapefruit L: (lunch at Cor's) cabbage rolls, mashed potatoes, pudding, cake, coffee S: egg salad/tomato salad This was the best type of S day- where someon...

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Hi eschano, Thanks for stopping by. Yeah... it seems I have to use my modicum of willpower either before I get to the door of a place I don't need to be, or when I'm wandering around with the shopping cart. Trying to use the willpower later is a big mistake, after I have something in my house. It se...

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I was taking garcina cambogia but it surely didn't agree with me, made me feel full all the time and I want to feel hunger before I eat, true hunger..so much for trying something new.. Hi NoSnacker, Wow, I could use some lowered appetite! Would you be comfortable sharing which brand you used? Happy...

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Hi Xtal, I've enjoyed reading your thread. That Mexican buffet would be a challenge for me. I don't do so well around unlimited free food! Have you considered taking S days on work days like that, rather than your "weekends"? How did you wind up doing with the orange juice for breakfast issue back w...

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Th140213 Brunch: roasted beef ribs/grapefruit Late Lunch: steamed broccoli/pumpkin +fried onions S: egg salad/beets Fr140214 B: egg salad/melon L: fried beef cubes in hot sauce (yum!)/onions, steamed broccoli /tomatoes with Italian +ranch dressing S: fish/pumpkin/plums I don't have a really huge app...

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Hi freegirl,
I would second automatedeating's good ideas there. Another possible reason is social pressure (the big one for me, outside of the craving for chocolate). Is it hard for you to be the odd man out at social occasions on N days?

osoniye

Hi Automated- Thanks for stopping by and for your suggestion. Still not sure, as I'm trying to have just 2 extra S days per month and don't want to "spend" them both so early in the month. We140212 B: beef+ soy beans/strawberries pineapple, pumpkin seeds L: egg, cheese/cauliflower/pumpkin, butter S:...

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Hi r.jean, Welcome back. Nice to see you on here again. I've been kind of in and out of NoS, but always sort of trying. I gained some weight in November while traveling and more during the holidays. It really helps me to stay on track more, when I'm reading and posting here regularly. Here's to us b...

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Hi Automated,
I really like your mini-testimonial! Perhaps soon you can post one on the testimonials page for the first 10# lost, if you don't want to wait 10 more months!

osoniye

Tu140211 NWS Day (Astrid bringing snack to BS) B: egg, cheese/pineapple L: fish/cauliflower/strawberries Snack: roasted string beans and onions, roasted pumpkin seeds S: egg salad/plums Snack: chocolate, banana bread, chips The homemade banana bread was soooo worth scheduling a NWS over! The Jury is...

osoniye

I can demolish 6 Krispy Kreme doughnuts in a matter of minutes. Yeah, me too. In fact I think I can do 10 KK doughnuts before I start to think, OK, that was about enough. I'd advise not overthinking, as much as possible. You're still in early days right? Try to plan good meals and safely measures f...

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Wow, "me too". A gift from kids? Impossible. I can't say how singularly difficult I find it, turning down food that was made especially for me. I think it is deep in my psyche, in that my mom would show love by making special food when I was growing up. I live in a culture, not my own now, which is ...

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Hi Oolala- Yes, it would be nice if other people cooperated and didn't throw temptation in our ways!

Mo140210 Green
B: cheese, fried egg/pineapple, plum
L: beef liver/fried onions, roasted pumpkin, butter
S: egg salad/plums

osoniye

Hi Kookie, Hope you're hanging in there OK. I'm sorry about the loss of your cat. Losing a pet can be SO hard. It's great to have a fellow former GS-er on here. Do you have any favorite recipes from those days? I still eat an egg salad thing I learned to like on there, and an eggplant carrot thing. ...

osoniye

Hi Everyone,
Yeah, I want nothing to do with FB. I agree it probably appeals to young people who don't mind all their RL friends knowing all their business. That so does not apply to me!

osoniye

Hi Charity,
Welcome, and congratulations on a great first month!
Greetings and welcome to your mom, too. Does your mom use the internet and does she have a username on here?

osoniye

Su140209 S Day
B: (Skipped,) 2 c coffee
L: Yilma Hotel with Cor: Sourdough pancake with beef, chickpea sauce, coffee, chocolate
S: (Skipped) 5 mini-Butterfingers

osoniye

Hi Benni, I think you're at a fine place right now. Your clever brain is able to observe what stupid brain is doing. Over time the clever brain will take over the driver's seat. But awareness is an important step in the process. Try to be patient. Give your energy to keeping your N days good. Let th...

osoniye

Hi, Oolala, Using everything up in the fridge is a great exercise, if it doesn't derail your program. I travel for work for a couple of weeks, several times a year, and try to clean the fridge and freezer out so I can unplug it before I go. Some meals at the end are a little strange, I'll admit, but...

osoniye

Hi, NoSnacker-
Congratulations on the 10# loss and those size 16 pants. These types of milestones are fun to celebrate!

osoniye

OK, I'm trying to really get back on track here and go with Vanilla NoS, despite the fact that most of my socializing occurs during the workweek, so there may be some awkwardness. A couple of times a month, I go to a friend's house for supper and she always serves a dessert or few pieces of chocolat...

osoniye

Dear Flor, Welcome to the boards. My advice would be to take and enjoy your regular S days. NoS doesn't involve punishing yourself or making up lost days, either. Just maybe put some thought into planning your next N week. Make sure you plan big/heavy enough plates of food to keep you satisfied and ...

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I will be 40 this summer and would like to be at my goal weight by then. Maybe I need to be a bit more patient. :wink: Welcome, Speedmom4, If you look around old threads, you'll see a tendency to emphasize building habit over seeking particular results. If you have a good habit established, like mo...

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Hi, Mabelsfriend, For me, it helps to have something I can pack at a moment's notice that I enjoy eating, which fits nicely into 1 tupperware. For me that is often a bed of shreaded carrots with a cooked veggie (like cold steamed cauliflower or grilled eggplant) on top, smothered with some cottage c...

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Interesting question... I think that often the plates are not "roughly the same size", as many of us ladies use smaller plates. My standard plate is 9" with a 1" rim. Also, I think that what goes on those plates probably varies from person to person. I'd love to eat 2 Wendy's pub chicken sandwiches ...

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Hi, Alice, I think it's good if you can follow Vanilla NoS for a while (6 months?) and see how it goes before making any changes. However, from my point of view, eating muffins, homemade coffee cake and pancakes on N days is not Vanilla NoS. So, rather than seeing your question as being about how lo...

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That is really great! Thanks so much for letting us know!

osoniye

Hi NoSnacker, I'm late to the party, but wanted to offer heart-felt congratulations on the birth of your grandson, Angelo! Sorry it's a stressful and busy time. I hope you can find time to enjoy the baby as well as meet your work obligations. NoS can sometimes give more peace in the midst of chaos, ...

osoniye

I do see that trying to help someone keep records and let go of their self-criticism, but rather just try to regard the journal as data, would be useful ... If people could just be rational about it- hey, here is when I'm overeating, I'll make efforts to reduce it while not expecting to get it righ...

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Thanks for raising this question, NoSnacker. I am not currently keeping a food journal, but I know that the times in which I am actually losing weight on NoS, are the times in which I have kept a journal. When I do, I use a spreadsheet in Excel which shows the meals going across and the days going d...

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@oolala- Thanks for the analogy of "throwing the rest of a carton of eggs on the floor because you dropped one". That really brings out that each decision is a seperate matter and that one failure is really a unit, and doesn't have to affect the next one, though we often don't see the reality of tha...

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Hi, maryashley, Just stopping in to say that I'm not one of those who is restrictive on S days. It does seem to be talked about lately, but maybe that's a product of so many potential S days in this month of December-? Another thing is that some people find the weight loss stalls for some months, an...

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Well, I took Christmas Eve and Christmas as S days, and am working on getting back on the NoS wagon after too much slackness in November and December overall. So far so good today! I don't have anything planned for New Year's, so that should be in the regular N category. I'm going to try vanilla NoS...

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@Helena-
I gather you count "swallows" of milky or sweet drinks, as if they were bites, but not black coffee or tea.

osoniye

It seems like this year is particularly awkward, as the holidays all fall smack in the middle of the week. Given your update, it might be good to jot a few notes on your calendar about what events you didn't feel so good about, and some time in the new year do a "post mortem" and see what you might ...

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My opinion- I make hot chocolate with 1t cocoa and 1 1/2t sugar. I don't consider that a sweet because I might put that much sugar in a large mug of coffee. It just takes the edge off the bitter, but isn't like a cookie's worth of sugar or something.

osoniye

There are some good ideas offered here. For me, when I run into problems on vacation it's from eating a lot of sweet snacks or really just ridiculous amounts of food at some meals. I like the idea of not giving yourself a "red" no matter what happens. But maybe decide in advance which days you'll ea...

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I'm kind of coasting along on NoS these days. I was off it in March-May 2012, and again over the 2012 winder holidays, so put on some weight, after having lost 14# from my starting point. So now I'm trying to get down there again. I eat on kind of an odd schedule- a normal breakfast, a large heavy p...

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Just wondering if this is particularly a problem during the nigt or all day as well-? You could compromise and eat 5 or 6 small meals throughout the day for a while and then cut them down gradually back to 3 and see how that goes. Maybe watch the timing, and eat all 3 a bit earlier than you were use...

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Hi Helena- Just wondering, is this on S days and you overdo, or N days and you find yourself eating between meals or seconds? I have that too, and I figure it's maybe a few fat cells pitching a fit because they're at the tipping point of shrinking, or sometimes it's that I smell something I haven't ...

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(Oops, sorry. Double post.)

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