study showing how important maintanence is!

herbsgirl · Post by **herbsgirl** » Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:28 pm

http://med.stanford.edu/ism/2012/october/stability.html

This goes right along with Reinhard's idea that maintence is very important

Cassie · Post by **Cassie** » Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:35 pm

Excellent article: such a great idea!

My problems with weight have ALWAYS (over the years) been in the area of maintenance. Well to be true, in recent years also in the area of losing momentum with weight loss. But maintenance is always the area where things go chaotic for me, so reading this really makes sense.

The other thing that has worked really well for me, over the years, is a book called '21 days to a more disciplined life' by Crystal Paine. It's a very structured, simple approach on changing various habits in 21 day 'slots' and has worked well for me (very much congruent with NoS actually!)

weagl860 · Post by **weagl860** » Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:14 pm

Very interesting.

oolala53 · Post by **oolala53** » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:56 pm

Finally, someone catches on, though I think the focus on weight itself is still skewing things. Meal-based unrushed eating and relatively routine meal make-up serve slim cultures very well without using a scale.

Judith Beck had two skills she recommended in her first weight loss book before people started using a diet : get hungry for meals and savor every bite. Those two have served me well on No S. I chose never to go on to her more traditional tactics of planning every meal and snack, tracking calories, and weighing.

herbsgirl · Post by **herbsgirl** » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:28 pm

For me, I have to weigh everyday. Studies show that people who weigh everyday lose more weight and keep it off longer.

https://globalhealth.duke.edu/media/new ... ose-weight
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16336072

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17663619

http://calorielab.com/news/2005/10/16/s ... igh-daily/

http://www.lifescript.com/diet-fitness/ ... daily.aspx

I enter my weights into Happy Scale app which figures a running moving average for that day. That way it keeps the weight leveled out and you can see exactly where you are and where you have been a month ago, a day ago, a week ago, ect.
Its free too so that's good!

http://happyscale.com/
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/happy-s ... 30574?mt=8

Im sure there are exceptions to the rule, as always with everything, Oolala, some people say they get along better not weighing

Each person can make the choice best for them!

I have also taken some quotes from Judith Beck that I will not forget.

Here are a few

Hunger is never an emergency

No Choice When you have the urge to do something that's not on your plan

and others![/b]

Cassie · Post by **Cassie** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:52 pm

Happy Scale sounds really useful, thanks for suggesting it.

oolala53 · Post by **oolala53** » Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:46 am

The studies are based on small groups in comparison with the millions of people in slim cultures who don't even know what they weigh. In slim cultures, they do know what it means to have habits of savoring meals that are relatively routine in size and macronutrient makeup. They usually have one quite small meal a day, one medium one, and one main one, and there is little impetus to eat more and at other times. That is their automatic monitoring. If that is too hard in our food-rich culture, other means can be used. The least painful that does the trick is preferable.

When people say "the weight came back," what they usually really mean is that they started overeating again, usually first in small amounts and later larger ones. And they were often following very difficult regimes to start.

No matter what, the program has got to be sustainable, and overeating has got to become the exception, both in practice and in fantasy.