surprising rise in diabetes in Spain

[oolala53]

Spain used to be a country which fit the concept of systematic moderation, though I'm not sure they adhered to 3 meals a day.

But they have left what structure they had so much that their rate of diabetes 2 had increased 45% in two years! That is as much as was expected in the next 25 years.

Their rate is the second highest in Europe: 14.8%. When I first started looking at this a few years ago, the U.S. was around 11%. It has risen to 15%.

A paradox is that much higher percentages of populations are overweight or obese than are diabetic, though around 80% of those who do develop the disease are overweight. So even though it can be reduced with weight loss, weight is not the only factor.

I will not try to say that adhering to No S will prevent or cure diabetes, but it sure seems like there is a correlation.

Let's hang in there and adjust what's on our plates if needed. And get in more movement. (Spain has also become more sedentary.)

[Soprano]

Increasing numbers of Type 2 is worrying and I wonder how many unrecorded cases there are.

Jx

[reinhard]

It's so sad that rather from learning from the rest of the world in terms of moderate eating, the rest of the world is learning from us/US...

I find it baffling that the causes of obesity and these related conditions are still treated as such a mystery. I read an article recently about this new buzzy term "hyperprocessed foods" -- the chief element of their nefariousness turns out to be that they are "hyperpalatable" (scientific for "they taste so damn good") so we eat too much of them. In other words, again, plain and simple, the problem, at least the giant heart of the problem, is excess, the solution is moderation. Cultural moderation is dying fast around the globe, so systematic moderation has to step in.

Reinhard

[oolala53]

The issue is that these food make it much harder to be satisfied with a moderate amount of food. They pumped us to take more and the work of one free brain surgery at least show that the body will actually accommodate higher weight when we eat food. You Reinhart have a Sense. These should play much of a role when you’re eating. Seems like quite early on you. Talked about your intelligent default, and none of them were these kinds of food. At the same time, I was able to lose most of my weight was still having smaller portions of fast food every week. I think one of the reasons I was able to do it was also very intense on increasing so I was satisfied by that included only about a third of it cover with food. But I see that a lot of people aren’t intent on that and I’m not surprised at over time they become less. I also increased my protein for satiety.