I know what I was doing wrong

No Snacks, no sweets, no seconds. Except on Days that start with S. Too simple for you? Simple is why it works. Look here for questions, introductions, support, success stories.

Moderators: Soprano, automatedeating

Post Reply
User avatar
Mariposa1127
Posts: 38
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:26 pm

I know what I was doing wrong

Post by Mariposa1127 » Fri May 16, 2014 5:57 pm

Hi,

I have tried the No S Diet about 20-30 times without any success. I think I know what I was doing wrong. When I would eat my plates of food I would put a lot of junk on them like chips, noodles, bread, cereal, etc. I was reading some information and realized that eating protein and veggies fill you up much more than junk food. So I started an experiment today of making sure that on my plates I have either a protein or a veggie. So far I have had two plates and each had a protein and veggie and I am FULL. Not even thinking about a snack.

:)

clarinetgal
Posts: 1701
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:16 am
Location: Western Washington State

Post by clarinetgal » Sat May 17, 2014 12:05 am

That works well for me, too! When I make sure to put protein and veggies on my plate, I feel so much fuller! Good job! :D

oolala53
Posts: 9754
Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:46 am
Location: San Diego, CA USA

Post by oolala53 » Sun May 18, 2014 11:06 pm

I had gone through a lot of legalizing all foods before No S, so I never had N day meals of all processed foods. I rarely have a meal without freggies. For years I had protein at most meals but I guess things have balanced out, as I can be satisfied without always having animal protein now. (For various reasons, I want to cut down.) I need to have a fat, though. Others feel differently. Reinhard has said that when you know you have only three chances a day to get in what you know down deep you need, eventually you start choosing those things.

Glad you've found your right mix for now. And glad you kept giving it a chance!
Count plates, not calories. 10 years "during"
Age 66
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8
3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
9/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
3/18 22.2
2 yrs flux
6/21 22

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.

germanherman
Posts: 140
Joined: Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:49 am
Location: northern germany

Re: I know what I was doing wrong

Post by germanherman » Tue May 20, 2014 8:28 am

Mariposa1127 wrote:Hi,

When I would eat my plates of food I would put a lot of junk on them like chips, noodles, bread, cereal, etc.
Sorry. That's not junk, just food.

I know that the "new" low-carb hype (anyone remembers atkins...) can lead to the mindset that carbs are bad, but that is just another fad.

The main concept of NoS Diet is moderation. The first step ist the moderation of the amount of food, but why stop there? I apply that to quality, quantities and to costs and rewards.

For myself the problem was always the extreme:

I ate extreme amounts of food! (Now i eat very moderate meals)
I ate extreme amounts of cheap foods! (Now i have moderate amounts of quality and junk foods)
I ate extreme amounts of carbs! (Now Carbs in moderation)
I ate with an extreme speed! (Now: Very slow eating)

But instead of trying to work against my habbits i tamed them by moderation.

I lost around 90 pounds, got a one-digit percentage of body-fat and became an athlete by moderation - And i did it with fast- and junk-food (in moderation :wink: )

So my advice is: Avoid the extremes as much as possible, even the "positive" ones! Avoid the complete deprivation of any kind of food.
Last edited by germanherman on Thu May 22, 2014 5:18 am, edited 1 time in total.
Spend over 450 Dollar on some Systems, Gadgets and courses = Zero Results

Spend 15 Bucks for a Shovelglove + NoS-Diet= ;)

German by nature

wosnes
Posts: 4168
Joined: Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:38 pm
Location: Indianapolis, IN, USA

Re: I know what I was doing wrong

Post by wosnes » Tue May 20, 2014 10:38 am

germanherman wrote:
Mariposa1127 wrote:Hi,

When I would eat my plates of food I would put a lot of junk on them like chips, noodles, bread, cereal, etc.
Sorry. That's not junk, just food.
I pretty much agree - also about the extremes. Chips are kind of iffy, but I have them with a meal if I want them.
"That which we persist in doing becomes easier for us to do. Not that the nature of the thing itself has changed but our power to do it is increased." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson

"You are what you eat -- so don't be Fast, Easy, Cheap or Fake."

heatherhikes
Posts: 180
Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:57 pm
Location: uetliberg

Post by heatherhikes » Tue May 20, 2014 2:15 pm

germanherman, hello neighbour...assuming you live in Germany... Greetings from the Uetliberg near Zuerich.

I LOVE your post, totalaly agree!

Congrats on your 90 pound w-loss :D :P

Moderation and normal eating ("stink"-normales essen), that're my goals too.
__________
h

oolala53
Posts: 9754
Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:46 am
Location: San Diego, CA USA

Post by oolala53 » Tue May 20, 2014 8:16 pm

And the single digit bodyfat.
Count plates, not calories. 10 years "during"
Age 66
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8
3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
9/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
3/18 22.2
2 yrs flux
6/21 22

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.

uschi
Posts: 22
Joined: Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:44 pm

Post by uschi » Wed May 21, 2014 9:13 pm

I second what Oolala said about including some fat.

It really does fuel you between meals.

I find even just whole milk in coffee goes a long way in satiating me between meals-- a No-S loophole, to my mind, but I'll take it!

Not too many generations back, our ancestors would have been aghast at what we trim and toss-- chicken skin, bacon fat. Not to mention low fat and nonfat foods that have become the "healthy" default.

oolala53
Posts: 9754
Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:46 am
Location: San Diego, CA USA

Post by oolala53 » Wed May 21, 2014 10:08 pm

True, but food in general was much harder to come by.

If I had never gained and then lost weight, I think I could tolerate more food without gaining weight, and it would definitely be fat I would include more of. I still like my starches, so I'm careful with fat. I still do eat some low and no-fat items, but I usually add walnuts, avocado, flaxmeal, olives, or the like when I do.
Count plates, not calories. 10 years "during"
Age 66
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8
3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
9/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
3/18 22.2
2 yrs flux
6/21 22

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.

germanherman
Posts: 140
Joined: Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:49 am
Location: northern germany

Post by germanherman » Thu May 22, 2014 5:39 am

heatherhikes wrote:germanherman, hello neighbour...assuming you live in Germany... Greetings from the Uetliberg near Zuerich.

I LOVE your post, totalaly agree!

Congrats on your 90 pound w-loss :D :P

Moderation and normal eating ("stink"-normales essen), that're my goals too.
__________
h
Hallo 900-Kilometer entfernte Nachbarin ;). Grüße zurück aus Oldenburg, nahe Bremen.

Thank you for your kind words and best luck for your own goals.
oolala53 wrote:And the single digit bodyfat.
Plz. remember: I’m a male in his early thirties. No “sane†woman should target such low amounts of bodyfat.
To be complete honest, I linger between 8% and 14% over the course of a year, depending on how hard I train. But I don’t really care for that percentage. I just want to be fit and I liked to challenge myself from time to time.
Seems remarkable, that moderation (in form of No S + Shovelglove + Urban Ranger) made me enjoy sports so much, that I sometimes have to avoid extremes there.
Spend over 450 Dollar on some Systems, Gadgets and courses = Zero Results

Spend 15 Bucks for a Shovelglove + NoS-Diet= ;)

German by nature

eschano
Posts: 2632
Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:20 pm

Post by eschano » Thu May 22, 2014 9:35 am

Germanherman and Heatherhikes: Hallo!

No wonder I like your posts so much - all cultural DACH (Germany, Austria, Switzerland) directness and no-fuss.

Just wanted to say that I love both of your posts. And having followed germanherman for a while: you're a big inspiration!
eschano - Vanilla rocks!

July 2012- January 2016
Started again July 2018

oolala53
Posts: 9754
Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:46 am
Location: San Diego, CA USA

Post by oolala53 » Thu May 22, 2014 12:59 pm

germanherman, you don't have to worry about this woman aiming at single digit bodyfat or even the teens. But even for a man, 9% is impressive, esp. since it's basically a side effect. Those poor guys slaving for it!
Count plates, not calories. 10 years "during"
Age 66
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8
3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
9/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
3/18 22.2
2 yrs flux
6/21 22

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.

Flor
Posts: 14
Joined: Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:59 pm

Re: I know what I was doing wrong

Post by Flor » Thu May 22, 2014 5:10 pm

wosnes wrote:
germanherman wrote:
Mariposa1127 wrote:Hi,

When I would eat my plates of food I would put a lot of junk on them like chips, noodles, bread, cereal, etc.
Sorry. That's not junk, just food.
I pretty much agree - also about the extremes. Chips are kind of iffy, but I have them with a meal if I want them.
It also depends on if we're talking US or UK "chips". Homemade British chips I don't qualify as 'treat food', because they're thick-cut, so the potato-to-oil ratio is higher than with US-style French fries, and if you do it properly there's really not that much oil left on them. Would I eat them every day? No (for a start I don't have a deep-fat fryer :lol:). But I'm perfectly happy to eat them as my starch at a given meal.

To address the OP, it's not that there's anything wrong with those foods so much as they shouldn't be the only foods in a meal. I'm finding that if I *don't* have a starch in my meals I struggle to make it to the next one, but likewise if I eat only starches and I'll be foraging in the fridge in the next hour.

Post Reply