Question: Is a glass of milk considered a snack?

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Question: Is a glass of milk considered a snack?

Post by Maya Jo » Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:13 pm

Hi, I'm new (I started NoS this week) and I have been wondering if a glass of milk is considered a snack. Sorry, if this question has come up before.


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Post by Jammin' Jan » Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:25 pm

Nope. You can have milk, juice, coffee with cream, anything like that.
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Post by Maya Jo » Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:16 pm

Thanks so much!

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Post by reinhard » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:12 pm

Welcome, Maya Jo!

I'm a big fan of (whole!) milk.

Relevant blurb from the book (which I'm sure you've bought multiple copies of, right :-) ?)

(pages 55-56)
Caloric drinks (as long as they’re not full of sugar) are
also acceptable snack substitutes. While liquid calories
are qualitatively no different from solid- food calories,
by reaching for a drink instead of a solid snack, the habit
of not eating solid food between meals is still preserved,
and you are unlikely to drink nonsugar drinks in suffi -
cient quantities for it to be much of an issue, calorically
speaking. So while noncaloric drinks between meals
are preferable, if you’re about to break down and start
snacking, it’s okay to have a glass of milk instead.

Whole milk is loaded with fat and calories. But
guess how much whole milk Americans drank in the
thin 1970s compared with Americans today? Accord-
ing to the USDA,over three times more (25 gallons
per person per year in 1970, but only 8 gallons today).
In the even thinner 1940s, we drank almost six times
more (45 gallons in 1945). All that skim and reduced-
fat milk we now drink instead hasn’t slimmed us down
any (15 gallons today versus 6 gallons in 1970 and
4 gallons in 1945). It has probably only lubricated our
consciences to make us ignore all the sugar soda we’re
drinking (22 gallons in 1970 compared to 56 gallons
today). Dairy is actually the only top- level category
of food substance tracked by the USDA’s Economic
Research Service to have shown a decrease in calorie
consumption since 1970.

Whole milk, like 100 percent fruit juice, is very
filling. It’s difficult to drink large quantities at once
because you can taste the fat and calories. You can get
away with drinking a much smaller amount, without
the false sense of security that lower- calorie milk prod-
ucts give you. It also tastes much better. So although it
isn’t a technical requirement of the No S Diet, I would
recommend sticking with whole milk rather than skim
or reduced- fat milk. Our bodies have evolved to expect
milk to be fatty and caloric, and the statistics show
that tricking our bodies with less fatty substitutes has
clearly not worked as a weight loss strategy— quite the

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Post by Hunter Gatherer » Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:30 am

I too love milk, and drink it whole.

I remember reading (where?) that skim milk was used to fatten hogs, and although my dim memory confounds confirming the accuracy of the statement I still quote it when discussing milk.
"You've been reading about arctic explorers," I accused him. "If a man's starving he'll eat anything, but when he's just ordinarily hungry he doesn't want to clutter up his stomach with a lot of candy."
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Post by Maya Jo » Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:04 am

I've been adding 1.5 teaspoons of chocolate syrup to make milk more palatable. This is probably considered to be a cheat, but if I'm in situation where I have to go 6-7 hours between a meal, I need something to make the milk more palatable. As for whole milk, I use 1% or 2% , as I can't stand the tase of whole milk ( I can just barely stand the tase of milk in general).

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Post by Jammin' Jan » Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:08 pm

Maya Jo, have you ever tried Silk soymilk?
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Post by Cantab » Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:02 pm

[quote="Jammin' Jan"]Maya Jo, have you ever tried Silk soymilk?[/quote]

The Trader Joe's soymilk is terrific too. I drink the unsweetened, and it has a faint vanilla flavor, and less sugar and calories than milk: 90 calories per glass, including some fat and protein, so it's filling. I'm very fond of it.

I also drink kefir, which is a traditional drinkable yogurt (again, no sugar) and higher than protein than milk, and it has probiotics.

Everyone is different, but I find that fruit juice makes me feel a bit light-headed and makes me want to eat because of its high glycemic index. Tomato juice or V8 is filling, though.

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Post by Kathleen » Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:42 am

I dislike sugared pop, but for a time that's exactly what I had until I got used to not eating between meals. I'm back to only having sugared ginger ale when I'm sick and rarely even having diet pop.
Day 1 - 10/03/19: 218.0 pounds

Following SET Guidelines:
S: Sit down to eat.
E: Eat without distraction.
T: Take a sip before eating and after each bite.
See 10/16/19 post.

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Post by oliviamanda » Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:01 pm

I love whole milk. Ever since by 2 year old started drinking milk a year ago, I have pretty much stayed off it because he drinks so much. But, I never buy skim or 1 or 2%. I love the explanation in the book!
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Post by TunaFishKid » Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:57 am

I used to pour myself a glass of wine while I was cooking dinner...which, unfortunately, often turned into 2 or 3 and also caused me to overeat a lot before and during dinner. When I started noessing I replaced it with a small glass of whole milk. I have something to sip, it's filling enough to keep me from tasting too much while cooking, and of course, one is enough. :)
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