This is not a bad idea, Tracker!

Counting carbs/calories is a drag. Obsessive scale stepping is a recipe for despair. If you want to count something, "days on habit" is a much better metric. Checking off days on a calendar would do just fine, but if you do it here you get accountability and support. Here's how. Start a new topic in this forum called (say) "Your Name Daily Check In." Then every N day post a "reply" to that topic as to whether you stayed on habit. A simple "<font color="green">SUCCESS</font>" or "<font color="red">FAILURE</font>" (or your preferred euphemism if that's too harsh) is sufficient, but obviously you're welcome to write more if you want. On S-days just register that you're taking an S-day. You don't have to do this forever, just until you're confident you've built the habit. Feel free to check in weekly or monthly or sporadically instead of daily. Feel free also to track other habits besides No-s (I'm keeping this forum under No-s because that's what the vast majority are using it for). See also my <a href="/habitcal/">HabitCal</a> tool for another more formal (and perhaps complementary) way to track habits.

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This is not a bad idea, Tracker!

Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:26 pm

So hello! I'm giving NoS my attention all February and then we will see where I end up. I'm a devoted calorie counter who is very fatigued because ALL of my meals are from scratch and nearly impossible to count yogurt made from milk from a cow down the street with cultures you were given or normal meals that have 90 ingredients you have to weigh out and log :roll: . I really want to lose 8 more pounds but really I'm at a good enough weight even if it's higher than most fitness ideals. I'd wager to bet the WORST thing that'll happen to me is I'll maintain 133 because my meals are basically the same counting or not, But we shall see!

I'm not doing no S exactly because I don't need free weekends,I will have sweets as breakfasts rarely and that is that. If I do get presented with an occasion to eat out of schedule then whatever. I also do more than one plate because I have my food separate but I don't see an issue with that for ME. but I try to follow no snacks to the T because grazing is my issue. I do have 3-4 teas with one teaspoon sugar and 3-4 tablespoons whole milk I can have whenever I want and don't count as a meal/snack, they're just tea :D

Day one, SUCCESS!
Breakfast, Liver pate, Apple, Tea, Toast
Lunch, Chicken sausages and sauted cabbage with leftover rice
Dinner, Chickpeas in green goddess dressing. Salad with romaine, cucumber, radish, bell pepper

Day two , FAILED
Breakfast, Liver pate, Apple, Tea, Toast
Lunch, Cashew butter and banana sandwich with hummus, pickle and spinach salad
Dinner, Roasted acorn squash, Pork meatballs in a sauce topped with goat cheese
And then I had two mandarins before bed(it was technically a s day!)

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Post by automatedeating » Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:22 pm

Welcome! I hope you have a great February here on the boards!
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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:59 pm

automatedeating wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:22 pm
Welcome! I hope you have a great February here on the boards!
Thank you!

Weighed today, 133.8 so that's good.

Breakfast, Steel cut oatmeal with raisins, applesauce, milk and sugar on top with toast, avocado, bacon and tea
Lunch, Rest of the liver pate(Way more than usual :oops: ), Toast, Leftover squash mashed with milk and more butter
Dinner, Thai style pork soup with rice noodles, and saute zucchini, Onions, Mushrooms and cilantro.


Dinner is cooking now but this is my plan for today so I'm keeping myself accountable. I'm finding that I need to eat more...Like MUCH more than I'd normally do because dieting made me think I needed tiny portions 24/7 not HUGE meals but less frequent. But honestly just going crazy and eating a lot at meal times keeps me happily full and going all day unlike when I snack all day

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Post by automatedeating » Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:31 pm

I really really think you can do this!

3 meals a day - eat 'til you're full - eat stuff you like. Look forward to meals, feel proud of your accomplishments.

If and when you break the rules, mark it and move on. Just consider it data collection for your long-term success.
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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:46 pm

"If and when you break the rules, mark it and move on. Just consider it data collection for your long-term success.", Feedback, not failure as I've heard once! Like yesterday I know that I was starving at bed time because I didn't eat enough at dinner, I knew that but something in me wanted to not eat more than 3 meatballs and That.was.not.enough to get me through the 7 hours until bed. So now I know, Eat it's not wrong to eat :D

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Post by ladybird30 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:39 am

Welcome, and hope you find a good way of eating that doesn't fatigue you with calorie counting.

I decided I did better with 3 meals every day, but not wanting to call S days a failure because of a snack, I think of them differently to N days. On S days I stick to the same basic meal structure, but if I feel I really need extra, I have it without calling it a failure. I like having that bit of mental give.
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Post by automatedeating » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:28 pm

This is a tiny hijack - sorry Tracker (and you do know I'll have to call you that, haha) -, but I liked the way ladybird said that she thinks of S Days as different even though she generally likes to just eat 3 meals even on those days. I guess I do the same, in that I try to plan out loosely my S Day meals (or at least one main one) and then I have those meals to look forward to so I prefer to avoid snacking so that I enjoy the main meals more. If I do snack, it's something I'm pretty excited about.
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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:48 pm

^I totally understand the whole being forgiving on off days and that but snacks are a rabbit hole for me. I have this horrible cycle of under-eating then snacking to death and I really don't want to go down the starve-over-eat cycle again so snacks for me are banned until I can regulate my eating(maybe indefinitely).

Weighed 134.8 which is annoying but then I was reminded by my phone that my "time of the month" is in a few days so no worries
Breakfast, icecreamy smoothie with cottage cheese, banana, Strawberry, and chocolate syrup
Lunch, Left over thai soup + Golden kiwis
Dinner, Fried porkchops in asiany sauce with tahini dressed spinach and side salad of romaine, avocado, onion,parsley and ginger
Plus 3 teas throughout the day
Success!

Whoa so today was strange in the best way. First day I can say calories were irrelevant in 7 months, I didn't even try to count or moderate what I could or couldn't eat as long as it was only thrice. I felt free by having a huge fruit smoothie and 2 salads for dinner I not regret either, Which is odd.... I think maybe it's because portion control was a huge thing to me, I never felt allowed to have large portions while CICO'ing even of healthy stuff. But yeah I'm really proud of today, I stayed full all day until +-30minutes before mealtime so I think that is good, learning to eat little bit more to keep my energy levels up without hunger. Overall 4th day went well!

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Post by automatedeating » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:50 am

Sounds like a wonderful day!
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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:00 pm

Didn't weigh today, Trying to go to once a week on Saturday and eventually only the first of every month. Just think it'll be better for me in the long run
Breakfast, cashew butter, Banana, toast and tea
Lunch, 2 Toast, with butter and everything bagel seasoning, a kiwi, Spinach, 1/2 avocado, Roma tomato, fried egg, cottage cheese, a couple bites of gross soup.
Dinner, Spaghetti with summer sausage, Sundried tomatoes, pesto, squash, onions and lots and lots of cheese(Seriously, SO much)
2 other teas
Success...But

5th day was a day that was horrible. Anxious all day, Hungry most of the day(PMS). Lunch was suppose to be a lovely carrot soup and I somehow messed it up enough to where I didn't want to eat it. So to replace that I ended up just eating a bunch of unplanned/random stuff thrown together as a salad. Supper was huge and had more than I planned to even though it was one serving. I ate only 3 meals today with no seconds, but mentally I feel like a failure. Ate too much. . I even ended up counting calories because I was THAT worried about my intake today and then that made me feel even worse because it was higher than I thought(Over 2000 :x ). So yeah i want to mark this day in red, but it's not really wrong per say in the context of NoS just in my personal opinion.

Tomorrow is another day, I'm trying not to get too stressed out over today anymore. I'm considering deleting my Loseit account so I'm not tempted to go into it and log again. I think I might need to move away from logging all of my food here too and instead have a little chart for me and myself only so I don't feel like I have to justify or even remember what I eat if it's a bad day

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Post by automatedeating » Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:29 pm

That can be discouraging when the meals we've planned don't end up working out and/or are not satisfying. :cry:

I hope you feel better tomorrow.
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Post by ladybird30 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:46 am

I used to have a fair few "technical successes" where I ate the 3 meals, but was other wise not happy with how much I ate. Things do get better with practice.
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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:04 pm

ladybird30 wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:46 am
I used to have a fair few "technical successes" where I ate the 3 meals, but was other wise not happy with how much I ate. Things do get better with practice.
Thank you! I'm happy to hear that I'm not alone :wink:

133.2, Back at my February starting weight! One habit at a time, If weighing puts my mind at ease for now it's okay.
Breakfast, 2tbs Cashew butter, banana, toast and 2 teas
Lunch, Eggplant curry, a couple handfuls of spinach and sweet potato, everything topped with yogurt and tea to drink
Dinner, Moroccan chicken stew and creamed mixed greens
Success, All around better

Yesterday I wanted to know why breakfast didn't fill me up all morning and today I realized it's because I didn't have enough cashew butter, Fat really keeps me full. Felt like cooking today so lunch and dinner were hardy, And extremely tasty. I'm working on serving myself smaller portions, Even of vegetables. I know that 200 grams of spinach won't hurt me But I want to reinforce that I don't need to be 'stuffed' or have tons of food all the time. Like lunch was split among 3 when I really thought I could eat the entire thing myself but I was pleasantly full and got to dinner fine.

I accidentally found a South Korean vlogger and she's oddly inspiring to me doing no S. I mean she's not doing the diet but her eating patterns are very similar, Only eats a few times a day with very good looking food and once in awhile gets or makes something special. Oh and I totally forgot about food for a few hours today and got bored, Really bored. SO proud :D

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:28 pm

133.8
Breakfast, Some roast pumpkin from thanks given that was forgotten in the freezer, Maple syrup, Yogurt, dates, Plus a chai tea made with half cream and half whole milk from you know where

Lunch, Toast with butter and everything bagel seasoning, Apple. 4 little marshmallow treats

Dinner, (will be) Cashew chicken and rice

Wow a week already? It's starting to feel "right" to me now to only eat 3 meals, Late snacking urges are considerably better. Today was odd and kind of s-y but I'll let it slide because I don't have s weekends, My s is "sometimes* . errand day so I actaully ate a tiny bit of processed food which makes me feel like I could do better but it is what is, The marshmallows were tasty but I can't see eating them more often. And I never get Starbucks, it just happened after I was out. I like home made tea better.

Today I was looking at clothes for my little sister and realized I can fit children's 14/16s again, I must be close to the weight I was at 10-14. Got some lemon printed shorts, At 21 I think I can still get away with it for now.

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Post by Staff Assistant III » Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:26 pm

Yum , I love the EBTB seasoning on buttered toast. it's also excellent on hard boiled eggs!

I've never had chai at SB. Their coffee is too strong for me, so I skip it. Hope it was good :)
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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:30 pm

Staff Assistant III wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:26 pm
Yum , I love the EBTB seasoning on buttered toast. it's also excellent on hard boiled eggs!

I've never had chai at SB. Their coffee is too strong for me, so I skip it. Hope it was good :)
EBTB is legit! I had some on fish a few weeks ago and that was pretty great too :D

It was good, But it's funny because I thought it wasn't strong enough :lol: I brew my tea to the bitter end of the spectrum(like..10 minutes?) so I guess I'm kind of weird that way.

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:51 pm

133.0!!! Lowest reccorded weight so I'm 99% sure I'm losing weight slowly. :mrgreen:

Breakfast, 1/2 cup steel cut oats, 3 oz milk, Slightly more than 1/2 cup pumpkin, Handful of walnuts, 2 tsp sugar, One medjool date and one apple sprinkled with cardamon, cinnamon and ginger
Lunch, Rice noodle soup with seaweed broth, Mushrooms, Onions, Spinach with a boiled egg and 4 pickled radishes
Dinner, Buttermilk "Rotisserie"(airfryer) chicken, I ate a large piece of breast, some thigh and a wing :oops: . Brussels sprouts with bacon.

Fail! Had marshmallows and 5 teas today :oops:

I wasn't very hungry for lunch but ate any way so my schedule wouldn't be off, I don't know which is worse, breakfast was super, super filling I need to remember that(Not to mention tasty, I guess I can roast up some butternut squash once this pumpkin is gone) . Dinner was simple but delicious, Ate a tiny bit too much chicken but it won't hurt me. Pretty proud of myself for only tasting food and not snacking on the food I was cooking today! I'm trying to be better about that but I'm not counting it as a red right now, Just being better about not eating half my meal before I sit down to eat.

I made a bunch of stuff, Been busy all day. Radish pickles with ginger and garlic that are super, super good. Simple tomato sauce for some recipes this week and a batch of blackberry lime fermented soda, Which I'm counting as a "s" because I made syrup with sugar and it is a "soda" no matter how i made it or am naturally carbonating it with yeast. I have left over syrup I might end up eating in yogurt though I'd count that as a meal and a drink is not a meal so....Goddamn grey issues! :shock: . But this is what I love about no S, I can make whatever I want and eat it without sitting around calculating it and stressing out about how much is a serving or what is in it. The freedom is amazing
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Post by automatedeating » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:52 pm

A very satisfying day!
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Post by sharon227 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:52 am

Not eating half your meal before sitting down is a definite win :D I've certainly done a lot of that before NoS.

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:44 am

Well, One step forward and one back today. Better on not grazing, but then I messed up today by having 2 more teas and some more marshmallows :roll: Not a huge misstep but my first in a few days so it's hard. But I'll catch back tomorrow

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Post by margot17 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:39 am

sharon227 wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:52 am
Not eating half your meal before sitting down is a definite win :D I've certainly done a lot of that before NoS.
Me too!

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:42 pm

132.8 :o 132! I'M IN THE 132'S :shock: . Slowly creeping down my healthy weight range, Can't believe I'm losing this much weight on NoS. I fully expected maintaining or gaining a slight bit, 0.4 in 9 days with PMS and period bloating is nothing to scoff at. My ultimate goal while dieting was around 130 to 125(a bmi range of 22.9-23.9) but now I'm just going to observe where No S takes me, But I'm not allowing to go below 120 for personal reasons. It'll be weird if I get to the point of having to consciously eat more.

Breakfast, An entire mango, 2 kiwis and yogurt
Lunch, Buttered Toast, Apple, chicken liver from yesterdays chicken(Waste not want not, amirite?), prepared with butter, milk, tiny bit of sugar, onion. 6-7oz of kombucha
Dinner, beef stir fry , Salad with romaine, radish, Tomato, Onion, and chickpeas with cilantro, avocado dressing.
Usual 3 teas

Today was boring in regards to food, Made food, Ate to the plan, Tasted delicious, No urge to snack, Nothing unusual happened haha. Still did good not eating the food I was making beforehand, Other than a half of a cherry tomato and a leaf of lettuce :lol:
In response to yesterday I think I've came to the realization that I can't skip meals, even if physically I'm not super hungry. As a preventive more than anything else because not eating enough always equals overeating or snacking later when I can't take it. I need regular meals with or without hunger

In aspect of not food, I'm trying to find stuff that makes me happy again. I'm thinking about starting another quilt, but I have a baby quilt to get done before the baby is done so errrg do I?! Crocheting maybe? Maybe I should make a new dress...Something that is making me happy is that we're setting up for a huge garden this year and maybe a few ducks and quail, Can't wait for spring!

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Post by automatedeating » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:51 pm

A huge garden, ducks and quails? Yeah, that'd make me happy too!

Sounds like you can crochet, knit, and sew? Impressive!
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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:58 pm

automatedeating wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:51 pm
A huge garden, ducks and quails? Yeah, that'd make me happy too!

Sounds like you can crochet, knit, and sew? Impressive!
Yeah! I have a TON of hobbies and it's so hard to keep up with them all the time haha, I honestly haven't done much of them lately because cooking/dieting had taken over that part of my mind and now that I'm focusing less on that I'm like "Well what do I do now?!" Because there's too many choices! I really want to get back into sewing but I'm finding it hard to garment sew when I might lose more weight before summer so I don't want to make shorts or a sundress then not be able to fit it you know?

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:12 pm

132.4, Holy sh*t I've lost a pound on no S. I don't understand how I'm close to 0.5 a week loss when I was on a miserable 1200 I was only losing 0.8 at best...But I'll take it.

Breakfast, Cashew butter, Toast, Banana, Tea
Lunch, Steel cut oats, Pumpkin puree, Milk, Walnuts, Sugar, 2 dates, an apple, Tea (I didn't weigh or measure any of this and I'm okay with that)
Dinner, Pulled pork, Coleslaw, Homemade BBQ sauce, Roll, 13oz kombucha
Chai tea.

I broke my rule of "One sweet meal a day" but ehhhh, Filling meals are still filling even if they're sweet. Had a larger gap between lunch and dinner so I needed that oatmeal that sticks with you :D . Sunday BBQ day today, Didn't even feel guilty about eating a ton of pork. I think even though I'm doing my own mod to NoS that chai tea is going to be my Saturday or Sunday treat, It's easy enough to make and something I enjoy a lot without feeling like I'm forcing myself to eat it because "it's the weekend!"

I went into NoS wanting good healthy habits that would lead to maintaining my weight without a ton of effort, To get over "diet" mentality and guilt. I can say all of that is happening plus more weight is sloughing off slowly which as long as that isn't the main focus it's fine. I was reading about intuitive eating and I can't say that I can follow the whole "Eat when hungry" Because...I just can't do that. but the regimented routine of NoS is really teaching me a lot about how I can eat whatever I feel like, and being hungry is a good thing(And separate from a "bad mood" or boredom). NoS is like teaching me how to intuitive eat because I'm learning what meals are filling and satiate, but also taste amazing and things I want to eat. Maybe I've never had normal eating patterns but I'm getting there thanks to this!

I think I'm only updating this through February and then go about my life without having to log everything. I'm starting to feel like I don't need anything but the mental notes or just a "green" "red" reminder

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Post by margot17 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:36 pm

Oh I love chai tea! and it's way less naughty than my weekends hot chocolate (which I will not give up, as I'm childishly attached to it).
Anyway, way to go! do you ever feel deprived for not giving yourself full S-days? probably not, as you deliberately chose that mod. Maybe it works like this, that because you know you technically could, but decide not to, it doesn't feel too restrictive after all. Besides you do give yourself some treats every now and then. Our psychology is fascinating.

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:12 pm

margot17 wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:36 pm
Oh I love chai tea! and it's way less naughty than my weekends hot chocolate (which I will not give up, as I'm childishly attached to it).
Anyway, way to go! do you ever feel deprived for not giving yourself full S-days? probably not, as you deliberately chose that mod. Maybe it works like this, that because you know you technically could, but decide not to, it doesn't feel too restrictive after all. Besides you do give yourself some treats every now and then. Our psychology is fascinating.
Hot chocolate is great too though! I had a phase of those for awhile.
I don't feel deprived because I thrive on habits so trying to aim for regular rules all the time is calming to me over the idea 2 days will be different and thus stressful for me. Added into the fact treats have never been a regular thing for me, especially since I have been making everything from scratch it ends up being very seldom when I feel up to baking to be worth the effort. Once in awhile I find something spiecal, which ends up being on Thursday or Friday because those are errand days I just don't have the structure for weekend S days in all honesty. So my idea is "those things are going to happen once in awhile, take it in stride or try better next time".

Breakfast, Yogurt, mango, Kiwi, banana smoothie
Lunch, Salad greens, green goddesses dressing, Orange, raspberries, 4 pieces of homemade pizza from leftover pork, Sauce and mozzarella( had seconds of pizza, see below)
Dinner , will be. Roasted eggplant and stuffed peppers
Teas
Failure.

Lots of fruit to eat up today! Stupid lunch, Thought I made enough food but I was still slightlllly hungry after eating my one plate and I went to make tea. Ended up munching on two more pieces of pizza while I waited for the water. Annoying as anything because I've been doing so good with the "no seconds", But I theorize that breakfast wasn't big enough. It was a pretty small smoothie and I used hardly any yogurt...maybe needed more protein or fat? Probably needed nuts, those things help :lol:

Dinner should be okay today, We'll see. I'm trying to hold the rest of the day together even with a failure I don't have to add to it.

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:18 pm

133.4 Wonder if being sick made my weight go up?

I woke up feeling bad. Cough, fever, ache, I suspect the flu as it's going around all around me. I have no appetite today so I'm just trying to eat as much as I can and not worry about food today

Late breakfast/early lunch(Woke up at 10am) , Cashew butter, banana, a slice of bread
Dinner, Will be all the cilantro rice and beans that I can eat.
As much tea with honey that I want and if I feel up to a snack or something small I won't count it off later.
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Post by automatedeating » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:37 pm

Sick Days are "S" Days!

Hope you feel better soon and are able to rest.
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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:33 pm

133.4, Trying not to worry. It's stupid how it bothers me, I actually meant to maintain 136 and now I'm below that but above my lowest so I feel like I have done something wrong :roll: . my weight graph is still showing 0.5 a week so it's not concerned, I need to not be either.

Breakfast, Oatmeal, dates, sugar, milk, walnuts, apple and carrot since I'm out of pumpkin and apparently I eat vegtables with oatmeal now.
Lunch(will be) A salad with feta , cucumber, pickled radish, romaine and any other odds and ends probably with toast
Dinner(will be) Mexican skillet. chicken thighs, Sweet potato, black beans, sour cream, cheese ect.
I did eat a slice of dried persimmon when I was cooking oatmeal so I don't know if that's a snack or cooking collateral

Woke up super early, feeling much better dunno what was up with yesterday. I know that no s is working for me, But I'm feeling sort of frustrated with the last few days. Nothing is wrong in particular, But I think it's related to the weight fluctuations and yesterday was very much a off day(ended up having a snack and way too much sugary tea)

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Post by margot17 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:59 pm

Good to know you're feeling better!
When I wake up super-early I always weigh a lot more. I don't know why is that, but it's a thing, at least for me, it happened also when I was 50 kg, so I think you have nothing to worry about. Also, if you didn't give yourself any of those snacks or sugary teas, given that you have eliminated the S-days, your metabolism would languish. You need change to keep your body guessing, there are many papers on the fact that caloric restriction alone only leads to slow metabolism, which is not only bad for losing weight, but also for general health. So I really think you're doing great, and have no reason to worry. :)
(on the question on whether Nos works for you or not, I would just give myself 6 months and then assess, it's not based on the minor fluctuations that you can take a good decision. This is my plan too)

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:58 pm

margot17 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:59 pm
Good to know you're feeling better!
When I wake up super-early I always weigh a lot more. I don't know why is that, but it's a thing, at least for me, it happened also when I was 50 kg, so I think you have nothing to worry about. Also, if you didn't give yourself any of those snacks or sugary teas, given that you have eliminated the S-days, your metabolism would languish. You need change to keep your body guessing, there are many papers on the fact that caloric restriction alone only leads to slow metabolism, which is not only bad for losing weight, but also for general health. So I really think you're doing great, and have no reason to worry. :)
(on the question on whether Nos works for you or not, I would just give myself 6 months and then assess, it's not based on the minor fluctuations that you can take a good decision. This is my plan too)
Huh, Well I've never woken up super early enough to know about that for me! Well I tend to eat a lot one day and not very much the next so I'm pretty sure my body isn't getting use to low cals all the time!
6 months is a good time frame, I was really experimenting with one month but now I see this being sustainable for the future. I think what happened is I started losing weight and then freaked out and wanted to lose even MORE even QUICKER which lead me to undereating and restricting/limiting more than I should have been. Right now I think I should aim for maintaining and eat more than minimally enough. I think creating a solid habit should be number 1 for me right now, Portions can(Or not) be changed later since I am a pretty okay weight for my body type and i should think it's good enough for now while I regulate my eating patterns.

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:03 pm

132.8 fluctuations are fun :lol:

Breakfast, Yogurt, Berries, frozen banana smoothie.
Lunch, steamed salmon frittata with spinach and buttered toast.
Dinner, pasta with leftover chicken, cream cheese and whatever vegtables we have left to use(eggplant, asparagus and broccoli I think).
Usual teas

Should be food shopping today but don't feel up to it, So meals are a little scroungy hahah. Today I'm not feeling so doom and gloom about no s again. Sometimes I just get really grumpy about things until my brain processes it and realizes that change is good haha. I'm also eating pretty big portions again because I know that was a issue and now I'm not hungry between meals again :roll:

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:01 am

TOTALLY forgot today was valentines day until I was given some pistachio chocolate! Ate two pieces and they were de-lic-ious, So I guess today was a S day :D I still have 4 more pieces left but I think I'll save them for another special day

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Post by automatedeating » Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:56 am

Happy Valentine's Day! I think lots of us will be having chocolate available for the next few days!
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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:53 pm

automatedeating wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:56 am
Happy Valentine's Day! I think lots of us will be having chocolate available for the next few days!
Yes we are! :D

133.0. My weight has seemed to stabilize at 133-ish which is fine. Still under my moving average though...hmmm
Breakfast, Chickpea bread cooked in like a cup of lard because I got a new cast iron pan to season :lol: , 1 piece of chocolate, An apple plus tea.
Lunch, ? Something quick and easy to make
Dinner, Philly cheesesteak

Chickpea bread is really similar to cornbread, for better or worse, not bad with chocolate and tea :p. Shopping day so lunch will be lazy and dinner easy haha. I don't think I'm going to get any treats since I have chocolate.

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:18 pm

131.8, what the heck body I finally accepted maintaining again and you pull this? You better believe that I weighed 4-5 times this morning to make sure :lol:

Breakfast, Banana, yogurt, berry smoothie
Lunch, Pumpkin oatmeal with the usual other than I got canned pumpkin and quick oats, I feel lazy bahaha.
Dinner, Beef Chili with beans
3 Teas, One mochacino with marshmellows 'cause S day.

Yesterday was odd, I only ate 2 meals because the philly cheesesteak was cooked for a late lunch/early dinner as we got home later than normal, I fixed and ate two sandwiches which I didn't expect to eat both but I did. I kept meaning to eat later but I just wasn't hungry with no ill effects so I just had an extra cup of tea and called it a day. I know that I said I wouldn't skip meals but I know eating when I'm not hungry is how I gained weight, Guess I'll just have to trust my body got enough nutrition to survive.

Over 2 weeks in and I feel like I'm doing great, Some slip ups but nothing that really threw me off. I guess I'm losing but I need to stop making that a priority over habits. I'm amazed at how easy not snacking is becoming, I felt lied to that I needed snacks. Big meals for life :P

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Post by margot17 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:45 pm

I think it was that chickpeas bread cooked in one cup of lard that did it :lol:
Congratulations! a whole kg in one day at your weight is a unicorn!

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:57 pm

margot17 wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:45 pm
I think it was that chickpeas bread cooked in one cup of lard that did it :lol:
Congratulations! a whole kg in one day at your weight is a unicorn!
Quite honestly it might have been :P
I don't think it was a whole kilo since I was fluctuating between 132 a few days ago but yeah my weight is inexplicable. Even while traditionally dieting I'd have weeks of gaining small increments until I suddenly drop off a pound or three. Or I'd lose 0.2 everyday for a week then plateau for a month. It's like my body only let's go of weight a couple days or maybe a week at best a month until it gets stuck until it's ready again

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:58 pm

131.6, 0.2 to lose and I'll have lost 2 pounds on no s. Two. Pounds. in little over 2 weeks no less. HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE

Made more bread and pate today, Woo!
Breakfast, Cashew butter, toast, banana, orange.
Lunch, Apple, Toast, Liver pate, tea.
Dinner, Porkloin with bacon, Brussels sprouts and green beans

I realized that why I was faltering on NoS was that I was being too restrictive. I've let go of my meal restrictions(Toast two times a day! :O), I'm letting myself have more treats and larger portions because I proved that I can manage my weight on NoS, Plus if I'm going to maintain in +- 6 pounds then I'm going to have to stop losing weight eventually :lol: . I feel so oddly optimistic that even if I end up gaining some weight I can naturally get rid of it without going insane counting everything I eat and feeling guilty, Nos feels natural somehow.

Looking over my weeks of intake god I eat a lot of fruit, toast and liver hahaha. I can't say that is exactly normal but I'm not complaining since in the scheme of things I could be eating that's pretttty okay

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Post by automatedeating » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:51 pm

You should go to culinary school or something! You seem to just love cooking!
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Post by oolala53 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:25 pm

Saying hi and welcome. That may seem belated to you, but honestly, with your having started only on February 3, it’s not really a very long time. I gently tell you that you may vary a lot in your weight over a period of months. There may be some people who continually lose down to a certain point and then simply maintain there, but I’d say from having read the boards for nine years and that it’s not typical. I wasn’t sure I would lose; I just knew I had to eat differently

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:18 pm

After saying I wasn't coming back here, Yesterday ended in a HUGE red. had my 3 meals and 2 snacks plus a few handfuls of thisorthat. Entire bag of sweets...Yeah it happened because I was distressed over being uninterested in things so, it was somewhat a boredom binge and somewhat a stress one because I want to change things. Ugh, A huge, huge mess up. Maybe I should cling onto here a little longer to get support :|

I'm changing my routine which is super, super stressful but I'm realizing that the 2-3 hours between breakfast and lunch and the 7-9 hours between dinner and bedtime aren't optimal and leading me to waver in the evenings/nights. I think I'd do better with a late breakfast, dinner counting as "lunch" and then a small meal later at night at like 8 or 9. But that's the routine I've always gained weight on, I know that logically that if I believe in CICO(Which I do) that it doesn't matter WHEN I eat but I always seem to gain weight when I eat at night(But I also do tend to graze snack at night too so really it could be as simple as that). No S doesn't matter about timing as long as it's only 3 meals right?

Ugh I feel like I'm stressing myself out now but I think it's for the best. I'm not a morning person and i want to stay up a little later again and i think changing my routine will aid in me feeling all around better and less bored because I tend to do hobbies in evening/night, Then if I'm not hungry or going to bed hungry that should help too.

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Post by automatedeating » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:42 pm

Can you remind me when your normal bedtime is?
And can you also remind me why you can't just eat normal-sized meals at regular intervals, e.g. 9am, 2pm, 7pm?
I'm sure it's your schedule, but I don't remember the conflict.
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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:42 pm

automatedeating wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:42 pm
Can you remind me when your normal bedtime is?
And can you also remind me why you can't just eat normal-sized meals at regular intervals, e.g. 9am, 2pm, 7pm?
I'm sure it's your schedule, but I don't remember the conflict.

Lately it's been 10-11pm but I prefer 12-2am. I was eating a 7-8am, 11am or 12pm and 3:30 or 4pm only because that's what works with my families schedule. Dinner is super early and I know this but it's something I can't change because 3 other people are use to eating early, Breakfast had to be early enough to not run into lunch and same with lunch into dinner. Normally I'd eat fairly small at breakfast, normal at lunch and huge at dinner so I wouldn't be super, super hungry later on. But that wouldn't always work out because I wouldn't be hungry at lunch sometimes and be starving later in the evening. So if I get up at 9ish and I move "breakfast" to 11 or 12, "lunch" at 3 or 4 and "dinner" at 8 to 10(Haven't decided when I get hungry so this is up in the air ) then it'll work out I assume.

My issue more or less was meals running into each other and then being hungry later at night. Also it just isn't my "natural" schedule, eating early is something I forced on myself from dieting because...I always assumed it would work out but it really doesn't. Eventually it feels like I'm spending my time keeping up a schedule instead of enjoying my day(Same with going to bed at normal people hours)

133.8, Yeah i expected this. I know I can't have gained more than 0.5 from yesterday so now I wait to get rid of this :p
Breakfast, Creamy soup made with broccoli, carrot, Cheese, milk/cream, and lots of butter + 2 small biscuit/cracker things
Lunch, Sesame sauce rice noodles, sauteed cabbage and left over pulled pork
Dinner, Ehh probably something on bread or smoothie.

Well I'm back for now since NoS works but I haven't optimized it yet so.....Yeah hello! As you can see I really felt like cooking today, Like really, really wanted to make complicated things because I realized I wasn't enjoying my food/cooking as much as I should have and there's no harm in that. First day of the new schedule!

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Post by margot17 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:37 pm

Welcome back!
Thisisnotabadidea- wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:42 pm
So if I get up at 9ish and I move "breakfast" to 11 or 12, "lunch" at 3 or 4 and "dinner" at 8 to 10(Haven't decided when I get hungry so this is up in the air ) then it'll work out I assume.
That could work! if you manage to space the meals every 5 hours it would be best. In my family we like sharing one meal a day, and be flexible about the others, especially in workdays. It works very well, as everybody had different schedules and preferences.

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:36 pm

margot17 wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:37 pm
Welcome back!
Thisisnotabadidea- wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:42 pm
So if I get up at 9ish and I move "breakfast" to 11 or 12, "lunch" at 3 or 4 and "dinner" at 8 to 10(Haven't decided when I get hungry so this is up in the air ) then it'll work out I assume.
That could work! if you manage to space the meals every 5 hours it would be best. In my family we like sharing one meal a day, and be flexible about the others, especially in workdays. It works very well, as everybody had different schedules and preferences.
Yeah in my family we usually only share the 3-4ish meal, As that's when everyone is off work and home so it's non negotiable(I do cook for everyone everyday). And once in awhile I'll share my 11-12pm meal depending on whose hungry and if I've made extras but as long as I eat the one meal we share the rest of what I eat or don't is all up to me. I kept thinking the idea was to eat BEFORE the main meal but now I realize I have the option to eat later :lol: .

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:44 pm

:| 134.0

Breakfast, Mocha, Pate, toast, apple
Lunch, Roast chicken wraps with hummus and veggies
Dinner, Yogurt or cashew butter and toast with banana.

Logically I know why my weight is up, It's still the extra sugar from 2 days ago and eating later. I know this has happened before. BUT GOD IS IT ANNOYING, I was 131 before I decided to binge on junk. It motivates me not to do that again though :lol: . I also logically know that this way of eating works so I need to just stick with the motions and hopefully it'll drop off sooner than later. During Christmas I had 3-4 days of days like Monday and I had water weight that stuck around for like 2 or 3 weeks before wooshing off to a new low, Apparently sugar makes me retain A TON of water(But I don't think my normal amount of sugar in drinks/food really effects me, it's when I decide to go overboard).

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:37 pm

132.2, And we're back!

Breakfast, Toast, Cashew butter, banana, and orange/cranberry juice(Most of the honey stuck to the bottom of the blender, super annoying!)
Lunch, Leaks in a gravy, Roast beef, A salad with leftover hummus and a bite of a cinnamon cookie :oops:
Dinner, Cottage cheese, broccoli and mustard(Weird diet food that's kind of a comfort now, I'm insane :P)

Woo back to 132ish, not my lowest but it feels better than 134 for sure. Busy today, I got myself new underwear as a reward for losing weight because the one I was wearing were barely hanging on since I got them around 25 pounds ago. I restocked a lot of my food so now so I have enough fruit and vegetables to shake a stick at :lol: The cookie was a kind of red thing, but I also kind of don't care someone offered it to me and it was right after i ate so I count it as part of my meal okay?

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Post by margot17 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:36 pm

Well you don't have S-days so there's no reason why you shouldn't. There has to be a place somewhere for a cinnamon cookie.
And congratualtions with the weight loss!!! well done you!

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:27 pm

margot17 wrote:
Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:36 pm
Well you don't have S-days so there's no reason why you shouldn't. There has to be a place somewhere for a cinnamon cookie.
And congratualtions with the weight loss!!! well done you!
You have a point! and thank you

131.8

Breakfast, Whole milk yogurt with a lime, blackberries, blueberries, strawberries, kiwi, banana and Toast with pate and apple
Lunch, Salmon with goat cheese and herbs inside a pastry crust with caramelized Brussels sprouts and onions
Dinner, Spinach salad with leftover chicken and tahini dressing. I'll probably throw in some nuts and dried fruit. Unless I decide to have something else by then

Well I'm back to where I started effectively! I guess even with what I overate I ended up averaging out to maintenance over these last 4 days because I didn't make an effort to eat less or anything. Woke up super hungry so breakfast was basically 2 meals in 1 but that's okay, I think it has 99% of my vitamins for the day so that's something! Lunch sounds way fancier than I think of it, it's just a super delicious standard meal :lol:

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Post by automatedeating » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:45 am

Yep, lunch sounds fancy and amazing and - can you come cook for me? ;)
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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:51 pm

automatedeating wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:45 am
Yep, lunch sounds fancy and amazing and - can you come cook for me? ;)
I sure would you know we always have leftovers :lol:

132.2

Breakfast, A quick tomato bisque with toast
Lunch, Tex-mex black bean salad(beans, Cilantro, onion,Peppers, tomatoes cumin) with sausage and spinach and turnip greens with feta
Dinner, cottage cheese with fruit

Ugh so today I've felt really off about food, A little anxious but more that I feel like eating late isn't working either because I simply forget about eating that late at night because it was something I've avoided for a long time. I skipped eating yesterdays dinner because I wasn't super hungry and then when I was a little bit peckish it was like 11pm already so whatever I'll just go to bed haha. But I do know skipping meals often isn't good for me mentally or energy wise so I can't get into that habit again.... :x I just need to pick a time to eat and stick with it I feel like until it's a habit just like the other times.

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132.0

Breakfast, Chai tea, Spinach with feta, mixed nuts, and tahini salad dressing
Snack handful of dried fruit, nuts and a raw tamarind
Lunch, Homemade chicken and pastry
Dinner, Oatmeal
Too much tea and seriously thinking about making cookies

True S day today, I don't even care, I've been too busy to care. Putting up a fence, Organizing and cleaning stuff inside on top of my usual chores so I'm pretty tired and probably need the extra calories.

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:04 pm

132.4

Breakfast; apple, oatmeal made with milk and sugar on top with spices
Lunch, Cottage cheese, broccoli, honey mustard dressing and spinach
Dinner, Korean style beef and Korean cucumber salad(Guess who got Gochugaru?)
3 teas

So my Libra scale app is telling me I'm maintaining right now since my trend weight is now equal with my actual weight and it says 0.0 loss or whatever...So I mean that's a win in it's self right? Never thought I could maintain without counting calories so I'm fairly happy with that, But I'm still kind of wondering if I should push to 125 "just cause" but then I don't know if it truly matters, I'm happy right now with everything relating to food and weight so would my life change any if I was 6-7 pounds lighter?...No. I just always felt like 125 was a better number than 130 :roll: . I do wonder if once spring/summer hits and I'm outside more if it'll change my weight any

As you can see, We are back to the original plan. I'm not sure why but eating late just isn't working for me so whatever this schedule works just fine and if I'm not hungry at lunch I'll just skip it and eat later if I get hungry(So still 3 meals just more flexible)

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Post by BackToThin » Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:19 am

Whooo hoo for maintaining without calorie counting!
Began No-S, 2/15/19 @179.8
No-S Patience Right Now: NONE, 2/27/19, 181.4
Gone Calorie Counting. Be Back For Maintenance Once I'm 120.
Checking in periodically because I think No-S is Genius, I'm just impatient.

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:38 pm

Yeah! :D I do have this thought I'm eating more than I was while maintaining in January and I couldn't tell you why that would happen but hey, I'll take it.

131.6

Breakfast, 7 nut/seed butter, lingonberry jam on toast with a bowl of cherries
Lunch, Toast, Leftover beef, cheese and leftover cucumbers
Dinner, Broccoli salad with homemade mayonnaise dressing, nuts, cranberries, and prosciutto(fancy quick meal eh? :P)
3 teas.

I got an emulsifier thing for my blender and I can make mayonnaise now you guys!! I also got this fancy nut butter that has 7 different kinds of nuts and seeds from my mom and it's pretty good with jam. Trying to get away from only eating nut butters with banana so I'm not so stuck in my way :p. My weight is on the low end but still in my range lately, I won't be surprised if it jumps lower soon since I'm at the point of "Eh this is good enough" again :roll: :lol:

Really not snacking isn't a big deal anymore, it has happened a few times this month but I'm starting to see snacks as a nap. It'll happened once in awhile but you don't want to make it a habit haha

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:52 pm

131.4, HAH told you!

Breakfast, Pumpkin oatmeal with the usual other than pecans instead of walnuts.
Lunch, fresh made yogurt, fruit and one serving of granola
Dinner, home Made pizza with a ton of veg and pepperoni
I'll probably have a chai tonight because I'm bribing myself with it so hopefully I won't have seconds of pizza like I always do :p

Nerdy weight math. So in January my highest was 136, lowest 133. Febuary highest was 134 and lowest 131(Seems like a 3 pound range is my thing). I think even with fluctuations I can say I lost a solid 2 pounds on no S, Which is unbelievable. I've literally ate everything and any thing I like without any concerns about the calories and I lost the same as a strict 1000 calorie diet. Even if it slows down to 0.2 a week or maintaining I'm not changing anything.

thinking about getting a paper journal/planner for my food and weight tomorrow as a kind of low tech way to keep up with everything since I'm trying to limit screen time

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thinking about getting a paper journal/planner for my food and weight tomorrow as a kind of low tech way to keep up with everything since I'm trying to limit screen time
But then we won't get to see your posts as much! Oh, well, I understand!
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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:28 am

automatedeating wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:03 am
thinking about getting a paper journal/planner for my food and weight tomorrow as a kind of low tech way to keep up with everything since I'm trying to limit screen time
But then we won't get to see your posts as much! Oh, well, I understand!
My plan all along was to only update this regularly through February! I'll probably still check in sometimes, I'm just going to be super busy soon and want to think about weight/food as least as I can

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:29 pm

131.2! I theorize why I'm losing is from being SUPER active the last few days, I'll take it though so close to 130 :O

Breakfast, One piece of leftover pizza, Tea
Lunch, Yogurt, granola, berries. Kombucha
Dinner, Asian pork meatballs and more cucumber salad
other teas...Lost count haha

Last day officially of keeping this updated, Lost just over 2.2 pounds in 28 days so what is that like....0.5 a week on average. looking back over everything I honestly will call February a green month. Slip ups really were nothing too bad other than one time which I realized why it happened. My mentality is changing from "All or nothing" to "All, In moderation", So nice to be out of the dieting rat race into something that doesn't feel like anything but a new routine, Calories are basically irrelevant at this point. It's about portions and meal timing. No S days isn't a huge issue I just need to relax when there is a place for a cookie.

One SUPER interesting observation from this month is that I've always blamed liquid calories on my weight gain and I've noticed that even days I have 5 or 6 teas, Chai's with full milk and cream, Kombucha ect....It doesn't matter. Eating more than 3 times a day hurts me more than having tea and I never would have known that without No S. I've pretty much let up restriction on drinks as long as it's relatively healthy drinks haha

Going into March my plan is basically the same, Meal plan the night before, Stick with moderate portions of anything I want, Sweets once a week only, Relax and enjoy life being a little crazy right now and continue cooking and trying out new things. I do want to wean from weighing everyday into a routine of weighing once a week or month since I now know how my weight does on No S..Really just destress from food in general. My weight doesn't define me and wherever it ends up won't be something I can micromanage so accept it for what it is.

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Post by Octavia » Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:20 am

Hi Tinabi! :) I feel the same about drinks - they just don’t do the same damage as solid snacks, and I’ve learned not to worry about having the occasional juice, milk or even hot chocolate. It just doesn’t compare to how I would have dealt with hunger or cravings in the old days: I would have been having piles of fruit, ‘healthy’ snacks like ryvita crisp breads with peanut butter, random bags of crisps, not forgetting treats like chocolate bars. Drinks have really helped me to establish better eating habits.

Sounds like things are going really well for you! :)

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Post by margot17 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:16 pm

Wonderful results!
I occasionally drink a glass or half a glass of milk or kefir between meals, I didn't know one could even have sugary teas?

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:25 pm

Well March has been great, I can't remember the last time I had a snack in fact haha. I did have seconds once or twice of salad, but hey, it's salad. Some days I only have an apple for a meal and some days I have 4 or 5 different things at one meal, It's all working out I guess I'm super content with my eating patterns to be honest. I barely even try to think about it all

Only thing is I'm seemingly maintaining 132 plus or minus two pounds. Which I have daily debates if that's okay, or If I should push to 125 "Just to be done with it". Everything else is fine so I probably should just let it go and accept my body likes 132, A bmi of 24 isn't the end of the world and stable weight is probably better than yoyoing again or burn out...But yeah

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Post by liveitup » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:24 am

Well done, you're doing great!

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Post by Soprano » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:25 am

Stability over yo yo is much better.

If you are happy with your eating but still want to lose more maybe consider adding in some exercise?

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:39 pm

Long time no see! Been almost a month since I last checked in, I've had only a few red days all together and those were something small like a extra taste of something or a snack when I was legit hungry which I no longer count as a failure, Along with extra servings of vegetables if I'm truly still hungry is green to me now too. 3 square meals are becoming my standard no doubt, I don't even want to snack which I can say for the first time in my ENTIRE life. I put more effort into making meals now as to make them balanced but it feels rewarding when I have lots of energy and don't feel hungry all day :D

Weird thing about my weight, I hung onto 132-131 for the entire month of March and then suddenly, Basically overnight dropped to a low of 127.8 with NO change other than maybe a few different food choices(More yogurt, less oatmeal but basically the same amount of "stuff"). So I dunno maybe it was a plateau the entire month of march and for whatever reason I retained a lot of water that didn't want to come off until it did. I've also been more active on average walking about 15-45 minutes a day extra but that shouldn't make me lose 4 or 5 pounds in a week hahah. I found it strange enough to count calories for a few days to see if I was somehow eating less or what have you but..Nah still within the range of 1500-2000 just like I've been doing since February....Body's are strange but 2 pounds to my happy weight, Really I'm considering eating more because I don't want to lose anymore if I'm being honest and it looks like I do lose at least a pound or two a month the way I'm eating now

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Post by margot17 » Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:56 pm

oh hello! that is so awesome!
do I remember correctly that you don't really do any S-days? you do not feel deprived I guess? do you ever eat any sweets at all?

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:43 am

margot17 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:56 pm
oh hello! that is so awesome!
do I remember correctly that you don't really do any S-days? you do not feel deprived I guess? do you ever eat any sweets at all?
Yep still doing no S days at all, I don't feel deprived what so ever. I do have sweets once in awhile, I've been eating a candy bar in small portions for the last week or so in fact haha. Had a coffee cake a few weeks ago that I ate for breakfast, I just don't think about it much to be honest.

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Post by ladybird30 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:48 am

Good to hear that you are doing well.
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Post by automatedeating » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:29 pm

Nice to see you on the boards, Tracker!
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Post by margot17 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:11 pm

Thisisnotabadidea- wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:43 am
Yep still doing no S days at all, I don't feel deprived what so ever. I do have sweets once in awhile, I've been eating a candy bar in small portions for the last week or so in fact haha. Had a coffee cake a few weeks ago that I ate for breakfast, I just don't think about it much to be honest.
Isn't it great, you found something that works perfectly both for you and for your body! these S-days can be quite nefarious...

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Sat May 25, 2019 5:48 pm

Well I'm back again. I kind of fell off of No S last month at some point because I wanted to lose 2-3 pounds down to what i considered "goal" weight so I thought I could count calories for awhile and be okay....

Long story short, I was not okay. Eating schedule got completely messed up, Lost those 2 pounds and then had some days where I extremely overate, almost binge levels back up to where I stopped No S and then I came to my senses that counting calories triggered that whole episode and no S was and still is the answer.

I'm actually going to transition to a sort of intuitive no S. I'm allowed to eat whatever but only in my 3 eating opportunities, No longer going to worry about protein, or "how much"(No more weighing/measuring at all, Even oatmeal will be eyeballed), Not even going to worry about how much sugar I eat(a lot). I want to stress less about food and weight in general, I'm only weighing maybe once a week for sure this time. I'm not even concerned I'm just trying to regulate my eating first and then I can see where I end up, if that means i gain a few pounds so be it. I'm re-starting No S at 127.8 which ironically is exactly where I left off so it's like no time has passed in that area

Day 1 of a new start! Breakfast is at 10am, dinner at 3pm and supper at 7pm. I realized this is really the ideal and I've been enjoying not forcing myself to eat first thing, I chill with tea and then I can make more complicated things I truly want.
B; Einkorn wheatberries cooked in milk with cashew butter, honey and banana
D; Beef stir fry with green beans, shiitake and jasmine rice
S; A HUGE(Big as my outstretched hand!) kamut brioche bun with white chocolate and macadamia nuts
Tea count; 4

Trying not to judge my intake for today, it's really heavy on carbs and sugar but it's what I really want and it sustained me for the day no doubt. Trying out kamut now after having einkorn for a few years without any reactions it's a new experiment to see if it sets off my inflammation/stomach issues. It's A-M-A-Z-I-N-G, such fluff and airiness with such a great flavor of butter and nuts even without additives. My brioche was just simply heavenly even though it turned out to be a lot bigger than expected, Basically mini loaves of brioche which I guess there are worst things in this world.

Going back to no S just feels...right

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Post by automatedeating » Sun May 26, 2019 3:15 pm

You are in a good place! You know, you are so young that your body can tolerate all those carbs (easily, I wager) - my kids are like that. I think if you just peacefully and lovingly establish eating routines (like 3 meals a day, for example) you will be putting yourself in a good habit and mental food place for 20 years from now.

I'm glad you're enjoying your food. Yay for you and wonderful to see your update.
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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Sun May 26, 2019 4:39 pm

automatedeating wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 3:15 pm
You are in a good place! You know, you are so young that your body can tolerate all those carbs (easily, I wager) - my kids are like that. I think if you just peacefully and lovingly establish eating routines (like 3 meals a day, for example) you will be putting yourself in a good habit and mental food place for 20 years from now.

I'm glad you're enjoying your food. Yay for you and wonderful to see your update.
That's exactly what I'm aiming for, Decent, easily adhered to habits that are relatively healthful for the (very)long haul.

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Sun May 26, 2019 5:02 pm

B; Another brioche loaf and tea
D; Tuna steaks with pistachio crust, Mashed parsnips with chives and roasted beets
S; Fruit salad(Cherries, pineapple, mango, papaya) and yogurt with honey.
Drink count, 3 milk teas, one green tea with honey and lemon and one hot lemonade

Feeling sick today, Not SUPER sick just....Unwell. Everyone else around me has a cold so no doubt I'd catch it eventually, Just hoping I'll get over it soon. Have a pretty big appetite despite it however so trying to make sure I'd enough good things, Especially vitamin c!

I took a trick from "intuitive eating" and given myself full permission to eat as I want/gain weight and it's funny how overnight my mental stress has just...vanished, Adding in I haven't weighed in 2 days so the day to day worrying and reassurance of that cycle is gone too. Interestingly enough I ate my brioche and really enjoyed it and kind of felt like I wanted another after just because it's...good and somewhere in my brain I thought "if I don't eat it now I won't have it later" but then I realized I could just stick them in the freezer and have them whenever I want because it's just sweet bread and I eat bread almost everyday so whenever I want more brioche it's just a few minutes in the oven away(And granted I'm hungry and it's eating time). Plus kamut seems to be hitting just fine, if anything it makes me feel really energetic and better after eating it so more fluffy bread is on the horizon for sure!

I'm also starting to wonder if my body just needs to be more like...130 or so because arguably I did feel much better around that weight, But I don't know if it was correlation or what

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Mon May 27, 2019 5:48 pm

S day(Sickness)

Several pieces of toast with a couple different spreads, An apple, A big bowl of carrot soup with extra cream and cheese, A couple of medjool dates, Roasted vegetables, Sausages, Rice. 5+ cups of tea and the day isn't over yet :lol:

Sick, Sick today but somehow starving. I keep eating and then like a hour later I'm like "Well I'm hungry enough to eat a meal" again, I'm assuming my body is trying to fight off this flu/cold so I'm giving it what it wants, I hate to have a off day so soon after restarting but I also don't want to be sick so eh I'll fight this another day

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Post by clarinetgal » Mon May 27, 2019 5:49 pm

It looks like you’re doing great! I hope you feel better soon!
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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:59 am

Been awhile! I got super sick, Bronchitis and all. My eating has swung from not enough, to way too much in a unstructured way(Aka grazing all day). Overall a pretty rough week and I'm glad I'm feeling better. Onward to regulating my eating again, I'm just counting these last days as "S" days and moving on.

To be completely honest I'm considering purposely gaining weight back up to 130 range anyway. You might think that sounds weird, But for some reason I've lost my period for the last 2 months for no reason I can think of, Other than I lost weight. I have a hard time believing 125-129 is underweight for me because it a bmi of 22-23 which is perfectly normal, even a bit on the high end but every time I get below 130 my body acts like it doesn't want to be that weight anymore and I get side effects. I dunno, it's something to consider for sure. Ultimately with No S I just want to maintain

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:10 am

Ugh I've been a super hard time, I've had a few legit binges which is very unlike me and it scared me a lot. I've gained around 4 pounds because of it too but I'm not too worried about that, I'm also dealing with some other issues that are causing stress and I'm about to my wits end right now.

I've successfully have had 3 days in a row with no S though! Even if my eating schedule has been really off it's still 3 meals in one day without snacking so that's a win!

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Post by gingerpie » Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:05 am

Sorry to hear you're going through a rough patch. It happens, especially when feeling stressed, but I'm confident that if you keep at it things will swing around again🙂 Best of luck to you on your journey!

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Post by automatedeating » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:38 pm

Yeah, hang in there. I've been way overeating and craving unhealthy stuff for several days. My philosophy is to generally go with it; things get back to normal in a few days.
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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:51 pm

automatedeating wrote:
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Yeah, hang in there. I've been way overeating and craving unhealthy stuff for several days. My philosophy is to generally go with it; things get back to normal in a few days.
Yeah for the last week or so I've slacked up and just went with "good enough", Not really caring if I ate more than usual if it was within reason(Reason being, Not too much, Only when truly hungry or need to eat, Aiming for 3 square solid meals) and now I really don't feel like I need to overeat anymore and things have settled down thankfully.

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:05 pm

So we begin again No S! After taking time out to reset I realized that like it or not 3 meals just doesn't work for me, I don't know if it's my body or the way I eat or my schedule or psychological but I realized that forcing myself to only eat 3 meals during the day was contributing to being very unhappy because I'd get overly hungry at some point and felt like I couldn't eat then I'd over eat. So that's not good is it?

If 4 meals or 3 meals and one snack gets me through the day easier it's still better than grazing all day which I did before. Plus being that I'm just maintaining now instead of losing I don't think it'l hurt ANYTHING instead of forcing myself to eat to uncomfortably full. My optional snack will be very slight in the scheme of things, Stuff like one slice of toast, a serving of fruit or vegetables, A bowl of cottage cheese. Just something when and if I need it(If I'm not hungry then it'll be skipped, and I'm not making it an exact time because sometimes I get hungry in the afternoon and sometimes at night so either way just account for it)

So is this intuitively eating no s style? Maybe, it's basically how I've settled into eating and it works remarkably well. I hadn't weighed for awhile and I've tapered down to 128 again so I think it's agreeing and I'm actually maintaining this way which is all I ask for after all. Anything between high 120s and low 130s is fine to me.

S day, Fathers day!
Breakfast, Rice, tuna, mayonnaise salad with cucumber and seaweed sheets
S exception, Ate around 1/4th cup of icing, some licks of cake batter and a bite of cake
Lunch; Curry made with pork, Sugar snap peas and thai curry paste
Dinner: Steak tips with gravy, Salad and sweet potato
Optional; Either a few apricots or kiwis
Tea, 3

Woo my self control is back! I honestly didn't love the cake, I'm not a huge chocolate cake person but the icing was good :D

Edit to add, I'm also going to aim to eat more animal protein and drink a cup of milk everyday between tea or whatever because I noticed I feel better if I do these

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:24 pm

Update, Ended up eating a big slice of cake after dinner because I felt like it. Which is fine, 'Tis a S day. Feel kind of overfull/bloated now though which sucks but I'll just skip snack today to make up for it.

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:39 pm

Breakfast/lunch, Salad of a very large cucumber, tomato, And about a cup of cottage cheese with 2 pieces of toast
Dinner, Two(seconds) very large Japanese savory pancakes with cabbage, bacon, mushrooms, peppers and sauce
Snacks throughout the day, 2 dates, A cup of strawberries and some beet soup
Tea: 3 regular one chai
Failed

Today was another non standard off day. Food felt very unsatisfactory because I felt like I was trying to ".make up" for overeating yesterday, Then I'd get hungry and snack or at dinner have seconds. It felt frantic and just bad. I think this is because I counted calories for yesterday in haste and realized I ate around 3,000 and I know that's too much but I also know that I messed today up too. But whatever, Life happens, tomorrow foucus will just be getting through without feeling on edge around meals

Still feel super bloated, Maybe it's period? I really doubt it because I've skipped 2 whole months but I suppose it'll have to start again soon. I was told it's probably was related to losing weight too quick and the anxiety that went along with it(great huh?)

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Post by Candace » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:06 pm

Trying to make up for a bad day inevitably backfires on me. Better to just try to have a good day, or my hunger and resentment take over. I hope you have a good day today around food and everything else.
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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:37 pm

Last week of June to July goals

  • Make an effort for meal times again, Make filling, complete meals. No more under-eating to justify a snack or two later in the day. No more fruit unless it's with other food. Serve enough food to be truly full, If you get full halfway then that's okay but don't leave feeling half done with meals.

  • Eating when I first wake up and not eating my last meal until I'm truly hungry. If I'm not hungry at some point at a mealtime then that's okay to skip it but make up for it later

  • No counting calories, Not even one and you know this. It's a false idol that makes me feel like I have control when i'm just spiraling out of control.



  • Don't worry about weight, You can get down to 130 easily with awhile of good no S but don't worry about losing weight, Worry about regularizing eating

  • Spend at least a few hours a day doing a hobby other than cooking, but don't feel bad about enjoying food either

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:57 am

Breakfast, Smoothie with banana, cherries, yogurt and granola on top
Lunch, Black bean salad with 2 jalapeno cheddar biscuits
Supper, 2 pieces of toast, cashew butter and 1/2 package of strawberries

YES, I'm proud of today. First truly successful day in weeks. I mostly didn't think about food today until it was time and then I made whatever sounded good instead of pre-planning everything. Felt nice that I was occupied doing other things all day :D

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:28 pm

132.2, Which all things considered this is pretty okay.
Breakfast, A big bowl of plain puffed wheat cereal, a handful of raisins and chocolate chips with a cup of whole milk
Lunch/snack?, Tuna salad, seaweed snacks and 2 small dates
Dinner, Roast duck with mashed potatoes, cabbage and leeks
late snack was needed, A cup of blueberries and yogurt
4 cups of tea

So this day was weird, I honestly thought I had overate at breakfast and it would be fine because normally I find milk+whole wheat pretty filling overall so I'd just eat less later. But around 3 hours after breakfast I was super hungry and craving protein, Any kind of protein I just needed PROTEIN. Which is extremely weird for me, I'm always a fat/carb person and it was the kind of hunger that if I didn't eat I'd be frantic by the time dinner came and wouldn't be able to enjoy a special meal or even cook it properly. So I ate tuna salad which satisfied me and made me realize maybe a lot of cereal isn't the answer, I can eat cereal but along with some eggs or sausage or something with protein basically maybe throw in some fresh fruit because dried fruit makes me crave a little more and more. Even though I LOVE raisins and dates they might become a "s" food or maybe i need to make them into something else because if I eat them in oatmeal or a muffin I'm okay, Maybe it's protein again.

Another non judgmental observation, I eat more food on No S than counting calories and end up maintaining or losing despite that. Could I be under-eating on CICO which makes me binge or feel out of control because of legitimately needing more food?

So overall a failed day, but for the lessons I've learned I'm filling to sacrifice perfection for being better in the future. Feedback, not perfection is the name of the game for right now.

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:39 pm

Breakfast, Toast with butter and cinnamon sugar, Breakfast sausage, bell pepper, onions and a small bowl of blueberries
Dinner, 1/2 of a hamburger bun, A scoop of homemade sloppy joes made with pork, 25-ish(Two servings) battered and deep fried zucchini fries, A handful of roast eggplant
Supper, Cherries, Banana and yogurt with granola
Tea, 3

Technical failure, I sometimes allow seconds of vegetables but being those were pretty...rich I really didn't need more but just snacked on them while putting up leftovers. So thanks zucchini you've betrayed me!

Felt like I overate today looking over amounts, but I guess I didn't because I never felt stuffed or the like it was just a kind of heavy eating day.

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Re: This is not a bad idea, Tracker!

Post by Candace » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:07 pm

Thisisnotabadidea- wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:28 pm
132.2, Which all things considered this is pretty okay.
Breakfast, A big bowl of plain puffed wheat cereal, a handful of raisins and chocolate chips with a cup of whole milk
Lunch/snack?, Tuna salad, seaweed snacks and 2 small dates
Dinner, Roast duck with mashed potatoes, cabbage and leeks
late snack was needed, A cup of blueberries and yogurt
4 cups of tea

So this day was weird, I honestly thought I had overate at breakfast and it would be fine because normally I find milk+whole wheat pretty filling overall so I'd just eat less later. But around 3 hours after breakfast I was super hungry and craving protein, Any kind of protein I just needed PROTEIN. Which is extremely weird for me, I'm always a fat/carb person and it was the kind of hunger that if I didn't eat I'd be frantic by the time dinner came and wouldn't be able to enjoy a special meal or even cook it properly. So I ate tuna salad which satisfied me and made me realize maybe a lot of cereal isn't the answer, I can eat cereal but along with some eggs or sausage or something with protein basically maybe throw in some fresh fruit because dried fruit makes me crave a little more and more. Even though I LOVE raisins and dates they might become a "s" food or maybe i need to make them into something else because if I eat them in oatmeal or a muffin I'm okay, Maybe it's protein again.

Another non judgmental observation, I eat more food on No S than counting calories and end up maintaining or losing despite that. Could I be under-eating on CICO which makes me binge or feel out of control because of legitimately needing more food?

So overall a failed day, but for the lessons I've learned I'm filling to sacrifice perfection for being better in the future. Feedback, not perfection is the name of the game for right now.
Everyone is different, but if it were me, I'd be looking at the raisins and chocolate chips as the culprit. They both have a lot of sugar and would make me crash after a few hours, which (again, for me) requires protein and fat to make me feel better. I personally would classify dried fruit as a sweet, and definitely would put the chocolate chips in that category.

I also think I eat more on No-S than I did while counting calories. But, I'm going with the idea that perhaps I wasn't that good at counting calories.
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Weight 6/14/2019: 155 lb.
8/3/2019: 151 lb.
8/24/2019: 149 lb.

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Post by automatedeating » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:38 pm

Candace wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:07 pm
Thisisnotabadidea- wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:28 pm
But, I'm going with the idea that perhaps I wasn't that good at counting calories.
This made me laugh. :lol:
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Post by automatedeating » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:40 pm

TINABI - I like your experimental non-judgemental approach! Calm curiosity, we are just gathering data.

Also, I smiled when I read you are looking to do a different hobby than cooking at least once a day. A goal for me would be the inverse, seeing as I hate cooking and often feel guilty about that (oh, well, I'm working on just being OK with this part of me). It's fantastic that you are such a great cook! What a nice thing to be good at - being fed does make us feel loved and cared for. My MIL cooks for us and I always appreciate it.
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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:30 am

The last four days I've stayed away from dried fruit and added in more protein, The experiment seems to have worked and I've flawlessly passed by with only 3 meals. But my appetite in general has gone down drastically, I do wonder if I just genuinely needed more for a little while to get my body back in working order after skipping a few periods and being sick on and off for almost the whole month of May.

I do notice myself eating later at night and later in the morning, Sometimes as late as midnight which is more or less my natural eating schedule so I'm letting it slide despite forcing myself to eat earlier for most of my dieting "career" because heck, it's still only 3 meals a day technically. For this reason even though I'm collecting greens I still feel like I'm not....Doing it right? It's weird, I also feel self judgment about my weight but I shouldn't. No S isn't about weight anymore and when I was in the 120s I thought "I'd rather be in the 130s and have a regimented eating routine than binge/restricting and staying in the 120s". But there is a twinge of guilt since I regained those 7 pounds in a really unhealthy way

As for non cooking hobbies, Gotten back into weaving, crochet and documentaries again so that's fun.

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Post by lpearlmom » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:48 am

Glad you’re little experimentation seems to be doing the trick. Please drop the guilt on those 7 lbs if you can. Id b thrilled to be anywhere near the 130s. Thinner isnt always better and life's too short to spend it worrying about a few lbs (although i get it). Your other hobbies sound much more interesting!

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Post by automatedeating » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:59 pm

I agree with Linda! Don't worry about the weight - you can notice and make adjustments (and yay for experiments, my favorite), but you are perfect just the way you are! And there is no "right" or "wrong" way to "do" your eating...... the journey is finding what works for your body, your mind, your schedule. There is a peace that comes with that. You are incomparable to any other human that has ever lived.

It sounds like you are feeling better. Revel in that moment. Anxiety and worry are all about being stuck in our thoughts and focused on some other time period than the one we are in right now. Just wiggle and settle into this moment and savor it. Like good food! :mrgreen:
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Re: This is not a bad idea, Tracker!

Post by Candace » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:51 pm

Thisisnotabadidea- wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:30 am
The last four days I've stayed away from dried fruit and added in more protein, The experiment seems to have worked and I've flawlessly passed by with only 3 meals. But my appetite in general has gone down drastically, I do wonder if I just genuinely needed more for a little while to get my body back in working order after skipping a few periods and being sick on and off for almost the whole month of May.

I do notice myself eating later at night and later in the morning, Sometimes as late as midnight which is more or less my natural eating schedule so I'm letting it slide despite forcing myself to eat earlier for most of my dieting "career" because heck, it's still only 3 meals a day technically. For this reason even though I'm collecting greens I still feel like I'm not....Doing it right? It's weird, I also feel self judgment about my weight but I shouldn't. No S isn't about weight anymore and when I was in the 120s I thought "I'd rather be in the 130s and have a regimented eating routine than binge/restricting and staying in the 120s". But there is a twinge of guilt since I regained those 7 pounds in a really unhealthy way

As for non cooking hobbies, Gotten back into weaving, crochet and documentaries again so that's fun.
This all sounds great! I hope you can be easier on yourself, especially if you're collecting greens! It sounds like you're doing amazing.
53 year old female. Height 5' 5.5". Goal: 145 lb. Stretch goal: 140 lb.
Weight 6/14/2019: 155 lb.
8/3/2019: 151 lb.
8/24/2019: 149 lb.

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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:51 pm

Really no S right now is going just fine, Some days I eat more some days I eat less it all feels really normal and natural. If anything the biggest change isn't my weight, No S allows me to maintain mid-low 130s flawlessly but that is becoming less and less of a important issue in my mind. A lot of self discovery and just plain "I have other things to think about" have made me accept that having a weight that's stable is exactly what my psyche and body need, I no longer worry about what I weigh in the morning or feel defeated for eating more than I had planned for. I'm back into old interests I forgot about when I found "dieting", I have struck a deal between cooking several hours everyday and things like sewing. My proudest accomplishments are both making homemade gourmet nut butters and that I've finished 5 new outfits for a doll I've always wanted and finally got as a birthday gift to myself. It's no longer being a low weight in the morning or resisting a meal. I'm slowly getting rid of my smallest clothes and just accepting that I'm going to be making clothes with a 26" waist and 25" is nothing but a fantasy at this point.

Good for them and not for you I say, I eat moderately, I weigh moderately. It's nothing remarkable and it doesn't have to be. I enjoy my chocolate when I get it, I enjoy my copious amounts of fruit and vegetables each day. I'm healthy both in my mind and body and without No S I don't think I'd ever be here. and that is worth more than weighing a number that is too low for my body

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Re: This is not a bad idea, Tracker!

Post by automatedeating » Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:24 am

What a beautiful post! So glad to read your inspirational journey.
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