Middleager's daily check in

Counting carbs/calories is a drag. Obsessive scale stepping is a recipe for despair. If you want to count something, "days on habit" is a much better metric. Checking off days on a calendar would do just fine, but if you do it here you get accountability and support. Here's how. Start a new topic in this forum called (say) "Your Name Daily Check In." Then every N day post a "reply" to that topic as to whether you stayed on habit. A simple "<font color="green">SUCCESS</font>" or "<font color="red">FAILURE</font>" (or your preferred euphemism if that's too harsh) is sufficient, but obviously you're welcome to write more if you want. On S-days just register that you're taking an S-day. You don't have to do this forever, just until you're confident you've built the habit. Feel free to check in weekly or monthly or sporadically instead of daily. Feel free also to track other habits besides No-s (I'm keeping this forum under No-s because that's what the vast majority are using it for). See also my <a href="/habitcal/">HabitCal</a> tool for another more formal (and perhaps complementary) way to track habits.

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Post by middleager » Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:02 am

Back to normal N day eating today. Thank goodness.
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Post by automatedeating » Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:11 am

You're not "newbie" anymore! :) 10 days, goin' strong!!
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Post by middleager » Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:14 am

Well i thought i'd have to change the name of the thread some time :D
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Post by NoSnacker » Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:57 am

An official check in, how sweet :)
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Post by middleager » Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:53 am

Success yesterday and so far today ( we are about to have our evening meal on Friday. Monday is my son's twelfth birthday so yet another s day.
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Post by middleager » Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:55 pm

The weekend! Planning to do some baking :D
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Yay!
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Post by oolala53 » Sat Jan 11, 2014 5:28 am

Naomi Wolf years ago wrote a feminist work called The Beauty Myth in which she asserted that women had been diverted from being able to examine their real needs and rights to an obsessive concern with trying to meet a beauty standard that could never have been as generalized without the advent of the mirror and modern media. It's so culturally determined! And very challenging. There are a small fraction of women who aren't that much affected by it. I'd bet there are some studies of them, but I don't think anything can really explain why some people are immune. They can probably trace it to certain attitudes they have but not why they have those attitudes.

A psychologist named Judith Rodin wrote a book on how to escape from the trap of negative body image. I started it during the school year and was too swamped to finish it. Also, it's not my big issue anymore, but I like knowing stuff to help refute the argument for cosmetic weight loss, which I don't get into with too many people. She said in her academic circles she was looked down on by some colleagues because the topic wasn't considered serious enough. Interesting to me is that she didn't turn it into the main focus of her career. She went on to turn her attention to different problems and now heads the Rockefeller Foundation! So I guess she led by example.

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Post by middleager » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:48 am

Saturday S day. Thought i would try posting my food. No promises i will keep it up though.

B fruit bread and honey, smoothie - yoghurt, berries, spinach, banana, cocoa
Snack: licked the bowl from the brownies. Made brownies, just like an american! -batch made 24 one inch pieces
L: fruit bread and butter, leftover salad, tomato, 2 pieces of brownie, bowl of berries, yoghurt and almonds
snack: another piece of brownie
D: scrumpy, fatoush, lamb chops, apricot slice, chocolate brownie, ice cream

Feeling a bit too full....

Walked the dog over the hill and round the coast -about 40 minutes
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Post by middleager » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:57 am

Thanks for the info oolala. After my rave on your thread. Really, i'd like to be like Judith Rodin and move on to other things! It drives me crazy how much time i spend thinking about food etc. this should be how NoS works i'm hoping. I put these simple rules in place and then train myself not to think about it the rest of the time...
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Post by oolala53 » Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:03 pm

I wouldn't call it a rave. :)

If we lose you because you've moved on to thinking about other things, at least come back after a few months and tell us what became more compelling!
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Post by NoSnacker » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:20 am

Stopping by to say hi and hope you had a great weekend and Monday of course!!!
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Post by middleager » Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:30 pm

Back at work now after summer holidays. Exhausted! So glad I didn't start anything else new except the eating. Sustaining the NoS so far though because it needs less attention rather than more!
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Post by automatedeating » Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:46 pm

Another teacher? Seems there are a lot of us on these boards. :)
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Post by middleager » Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:07 am

Actually no i'm not a teacher although that would be awesome. Just everybody here takes summer holidays because of christmas and summer at the same time :D
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Post by middleager » Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:11 am

Success today. Hanging in there. Snacks are calling me.
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Post by NoSnacker » Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:52 am

I hate that when snacks call, but if you don't give them to much power the urge will pass..if that makes sense...acknowledge them and set the thought free by hanging on to the thought it becomes stronger and stronger...

I have the same moments where something calls me..
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Post by middleager » Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:16 am

Getting close to the 21 day mark now. But very low mood today. Sigh. :(
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Post by automatedeating » Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:11 pm

Hi middleager! Hope you start to feel more upbeat soon! As I read through all of our check-ins, it seems that we all have low times now and then. It's almost like clockwork, probably hormonal fluctuations throughout our monthly cyles.

It usually helps me to tell myself I won't feel low for long. I always get my energy and optimism back.
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Post by middleager » Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:25 am

Day 21 today! Hurray! Could not say I have exactly mastered it yet. This week will be my first week with 5 NoS days in a row. First there was christmas, then my wedding anniversary, then our 4 day hike, then my son's birthday.

Anyway, tomorrow I am going to add in meditation, something that I often start but haven't ever been able to establish as a habit. Theoretically at least, this shouldn't sap my willpower, so it shouldn't be too much of a risk. Aiming for 10 minutes once or twice a day, but not sure about S days. I thought better to try and do every day.
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Post by automatedeating » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:15 am

Congratulations on 21 days!!
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Post by middleager » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:02 pm

NoS in trundling along. I think my dinners are too big. I still wasn't hungry by breakfast time.

Meditation. If I get interrupted in the middle i am super-annoyed. Far more agitated than when I started. I bet Gandhi wasn't like that. Reliving hurt feelings from 1986 probably not really the point either. Never mind. Just keep swimming.
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Post by automatedeating » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:49 pm

middleager wrote:Meditation. If I get interrupted in the middle i am super-annoyed. Far more agitated than when I started. I bet Gandhi wasn't like that. Reliving hurt feelings from 1986 probably not really the point either.
LOL!
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Post by NoSnacker » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:05 pm

You are doing great!!!! My weekend was over the top but I can say my weekdays are coming along great....

How many days now :mrgreen:
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Post by middleager » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:49 pm

I have decided to make yesterday a red day, partly because I am tempted to ignore my transgression so I can keep on adding to my "run". I had a taste of cake mixture. So, back to day 1 today.

I don't mean i had a taste of cake mixture on purpose to have a red day. I mean i was going to ignore it and then decided i had better not.

Probably my longest run of trying to do meditation every day already at 3 days or whatever it is.
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Post by middleager » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:30 am

Success today. Fierce hunger for an hour before dinner though. I think it might be good to treat myself to something nice to drink for this time. I don't really want to set up an alcohol habit and I also want to avoid artificial sweeteners. Perhaps i could learn to like soda water and lemon?? Maybe diet tonic water would be ok because it doesn't taste sweet? Maybe i should just have hot drinks. Hmm

Meditation continues. Was feeling slightly smug but then tonight my brain was whizzing around - work problems, what colours suit me, the internet....also I think the dog is a little concerned about this new behaviour. I do it out of sight of the people of course but the dog follows me everywhere i go.
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Post by NoSnacker » Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:02 pm

I bought myself a mister coffee latte machine and make myself one here and there..I do use the artificial flavorings, but I"m sure you could add your own vanilla extract, etc. Just a thought...for me I hate say it but a 100 calorie drink.

Have a great day!
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Post by automatedeating » Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:48 pm

I'm with NoSnacker on using coffee before dinner if I'm really hungry. I usually just pour what's left in the pot from the morning (maybe half a cup) then fill it the rest of the way with milk and microwave the whole thing. It does the trick every time. If the weather's warmer I make a big glass of ice water and add lemon.
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Post by eschano » Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:47 pm

I'm using herbal tea. Or roboois with milk. Sparkling water is always a good one too.
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Post by middleager » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:38 am

I stupidly weighed myself today and have gained weight since i started. Thoughts going through my head of mods, fasts etc etc I am trying to just let them flow through and not let any of them stick! If anything seems like a truly brilliant idea i might add it to my list of possible new habits. I made a list of twelve at new years but my idea is only to try and add a new one every twenty one days at the most! Meditation was the first on the list. 5 days so far...

I did find out today i am supposed to do a 6.5 km fun run with my sister in a month. I have only been walking not running for ?about 6 months. So i strapped my heart rate monitor on and went out with the dog today. I have a running system where i keep my hr in a certain range so i only have to run for little bursts and walk most of the time. Actually it was fine. The main barrier is having to get changed which i don't have to do for a walk.

S day today. I made shortbread for everyone and tomorrow i plan lemon tart :)

I am drinking soda water and lemon as we speak and quite enjoying it but will probably move on to wine soon.
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Post by NoSnacker » Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:54 pm

middleager wrote:Thoughts going through my head of mods, fasts etc etc I am trying to just let them flow through and not let any of them stick!
From past experience, keep doing what you are doing sticking to vanilla No S, which I think you are...it will all balance out.

I hate the scale, because we could be doing so great, sticking to habit and get on the scale and let it totally derail us.

The thoughts are just thoughts, as long as you don't hang on to them they will go away..when we hang on to them that is when trouble sets in.

Keep up the good work..it will all be good.
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Post by middleager » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:25 pm

Yeah. Stupid scales!
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Post by oolala53 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:52 pm

You cannot control what thoughts arise in you unbidden nor get rid of them. They go away anyway. The art is to drop yourself into the part of you that is aware of them. Thoughts can never know themselves. My teacher tells us that they are basically sounds that appear in our awareness and then disappear. Most of the time, they are no more important than soap bubbles that appear and burst. We think our thoughts ARE us, but they are not.

And actually, being present for the thoughts of the past or ANY thoughts is exactly the purpose of meditation. After awhile, we begin to be less interested in the content of the thoughts and more interested in just being aware. It's possible then that fewer thoughts arise, but that is not necessary.

Or at least, that's what I aspire to.
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Post by jw » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:35 pm

Beautiful post, oolala! beautiful aspiration, hard to attain!
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Post by oolala53 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:34 pm

Well, it's a work in progress. I wish I could do it more in the middle of the fray. Don't want to discourage anyone else with my results...
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Post by automatedeating » Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:44 am

Bump, middleager--here's your old thread. And your last post was, "stupid scales". And the one before that was about mods and gaining weight. I think it's pretty clear why you were discouraged and checked out for awhile.

How did the running work out with your sister?

Anyway, welcome back!
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Post by middleager » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:11 am

Ok then I'll use the old check-in! Learning from history and all that!

So day three of take 2 is an s day. I feel absolutely stuffed after a social dinner. Veges today capsicum, tomato, spinach, cucumber and i don't know if I should count chilli beans.

Auto you asked about running with my sister - maybe I should ask her again. I'm on week 7 of the 5k 101 podcast running programme so almost up to 30 minutes. Yay!
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Post by oolala53 » Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:26 pm

Oh, I envy that consistent exercise!
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Post by middleager » Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:08 am

Day 4 of take 2. An s day.
Veges ate spinach times two, cauliflower, brussel sprouts, mushrooms
Sweets: honey, ice cream , caramel sauce
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Post by middleager » Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:02 am

Day 5 of take 2. An N day.
Veges: baby spinach, broccoli sprouts, red cabbage,cucumber, carrot
Hmm think I need to revise the plate size bit
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Post by middleager » Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:15 am

Day 7 of take two. Hurray! A whole week. I need to reward myself. I think with some nice boots to wear with trousers. I am sick of wearing red doc martins to work. Maybe i can get something a bit more lightweight and a bit more green.

Some of these n days are hard. I have to reming myself that i will not starve waiting for the next meal. And i need to drink more.
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Post by automatedeating » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:51 pm

Congrats on a whole week! :)
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Post by middleager » Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:35 am

I bought silver boots instead of green. On sale :)
Thursday was all clear, friday i am not sure how to mark it. I went out for dinner and had antipasti and half a plate sized pizza. Theoretically could have all fit on one plate but morally probably a fail.
Today is an S day and i am going crazy on the sugar. So far including some fruit bread with honey, a biscuit, a sweet cake from the french bakery and a piece of butterscotch cheesecake.
Think my reward for the next week will be some running tights for winter.
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Post by middleager » Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:11 am

I spent pretty much all weekend eating stuff because I was "allowed". Oh well. Research shows that the difference between people who are gaining weight and people who aren't is actually weekday eating as everyone overeats on the weekends. So here's to a good week coming up. Today ok so far.

I am sitting here to keep my 12 year old company while he finishes his homework before I can take the dog out for her walk.
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Post by middleager » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:51 am

Fail today. I struggled through the late afternoon until dinnertime. Then i cheated at dinner having extra pieces of bread after i should have finished. Then two biscuits in the evening out on a visit. Oh well. Probably thirsty at dinner I think that was the problem.
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Post by middleager » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:36 am

Yay a green day. Had to really tell myself i could do it though. So many impulses to eat!
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Post by middleager » Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:28 am

Rest of last week went ok. Today was hard because after the weekend plus i was home with sick child. i made it through the day and then sat at dinner and just kept on eating! Think I need to get up from the table and get a coffee or something after my one plate.
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Post by eschano » Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:18 am

Yeah, I had a "just kept on eating" experience last week. It's good to learn habits to deal with this.
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Post by oolala53 » Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:07 pm

I know it's been several months, but just wanted to send you a note of encouragement as we enter the holiday season. I f you gave up, don't feel too terrible. I started my first real attempt just before Thanksgiving of 2008, and had only two or three compliant weeks in more than a year until I committed Dec. 26 of 2009, probably about 10 lbs. heavier than when I started. Learning to eat less permanently is not a linear process for most people!
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