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Counting carbs/calories is a drag. Obsessive scale stepping is a recipe for despair. If you want to count something, "days on habit" is a much better metric. Checking off days on a calendar would do just fine, but if you do it here you get accountability and support. Here's how. Start a new topic in this forum called (say) "Your Name Daily Check In." Then every N day post a "reply" to that topic as to whether you stayed on habit. A simple "<font color="green">SUCCESS</font>" or "<font color="red">FAILURE</font>" (or your preferred euphemism if that's too harsh) is sufficient, but obviously you're welcome to write more if you want. On S-days just register that you're taking an S-day. You don't have to do this forever, just until you're confident you've built the habit. Feel free to check in weekly or monthly or sporadically instead of daily. Feel free also to track other habits besides No-s (I'm keeping this forum under No-s because that's what the vast majority are using it for). See also my <a href="/habitcal/">HabitCal</a> tool for another more formal (and perhaps complementary) way to track habits.

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Post by Soprano » Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:35 am

Just want to say hi and that I am commiting to starting this way of eating today :D
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Post by Dalia negra » Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:39 am

Welcome Soprano!

I wish you good luck and that you are comfortable doing No S :)

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Post by Octavia » Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:31 pm

Welcome! 🌺 good luck with the plan!

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Post by Soprano » Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:13 pm

Thank you both for the lovely welcome
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Post by Soprano » Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:03 am

Well first day didn't turn out too bad. Breakfast and lunch were fine. My son and his girlfriend came home for the weekend unfortunately we were going to be eating way past my normal time so I did have a small snack to see me through and as it is rare they make it home I had made a nice dessert of which I did have a piece.

I'm pleased, as of late I have snacked between breakfast and lunch and sometimes lunch and evening meal even when it was at a normal time.

One thing I have learnt over the years, one day not going quite to plan is no reason to give up on the next day :D
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Post by RAWCOOKIE » Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:51 pm

Well said! When I began No S I was used to never being ANYWHERE without a snack in my bag, in case I got hungry. So I began by trying to reduce my snacks from three a day, to one a day. Within two weeks, I was going totally without snacks - it amazed me! 2-3yrs in now, and I never feel the need to carry 'emergency food' these days. Hunger is not an emergency (for me, anyway - I'm not diabetic, I don't take any medication etc).

Keep going. And enjoy your weekend days (snacks, sweets, seconds allowed).
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Post by Soprano » Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:58 am

Despite yesterday being a Saturday and family celebration I stuck to just. 3 meals and didn't feel deprived. I did however have a dessert.

Feeling positive :D
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Post by Soprano » Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:11 am

Hmmmm this isn't going quite as well as I expected! I've ordered the book to try and fire my enthusiasm and to ensure I fully understand. I have been completing the habitcal too so am going to treat March as a training ground and hopefully hit the ground running in April :D
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Post by oolala53 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:31 am

Hi! Not sure what you mean by not going as well as expected. It sounded like you did well so far. There's no one way it needs to go. It depends so much on previous habits, social situation, and other influences and even your own body. The training ground might be longer than a month- or even a few months, It is not necessarily going to be easy to change the habits, say no to all the wretchedly excessive excuses to eat, including plain old hunger, eat the right amounts, etc.. but you have to do that to some degree on any diet. It's just dang easier than figuring out the calories in every dang mouthful and recording them, trying to find recipes for low carb, low fat, gluten free, high fat, vegan, keto, etc.( I guess you can tell what I was dead set against doing.) But those are always options. :)

The book will help in explaining the logic of it all, backing up why it might be worth the effort. It touches only lightly on the obstacles and encourages pushing through and trying to keep a sense of humor about it all, realizing that our hunger is minor in comparison with what previous generations took for granted. Habitcal is a feature I think I should have been more serious about.

You can do this! Give it through April at least!
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Post by Soprano » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:08 am

Hi

Thanks for your encouraging response oolala53 :D

When I posted that I had just got on the scales and my weight had gone up, one week later I was 2lb lighter! I think possibly the increase may have been a fluctuation but these can become a reality so pleased it's headed back the right way.

I have been completing the habitcal, how do I upload that to a post?

I now have the book!
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Post by Soprano » Sat Apr 07, 2018 4:57 am

Nearly finished the book which I recommend everyone reads :D

Had a great week since I went back to work after the Easter break, looking forward to the weekend and intend sticking as much as possible to my meals but enjoying a treat if I fancy it.
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Post by Octavia » Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:43 am

Hi Soprano,
I found it really tough at first! I think No S works like that - it’s incredibly hard to go without snacks at first, but it gets easier. Whereas with other diets, they start out sort of amusing, but turn into a nightmare. Don’t forget you can have calorific drinks to help you. I needed lots of juice, smoothies, milk, even hot chocolate* and luxury milk shakes to get me through in my early weeks! But they still count as ‘green’ and they do help re-educate your appetite.

* my spellcheck somehow turned this into ‘hot cod’. Glad I spotted this, or you might have been very confused....

The book is great! Stick with it! ðŸ’

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Post by Octavia » Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:45 am

PS. I don’t know how to upload Habitcal into a post, I’m afraid - Maybe one of the long-term No Sers will be able to give advice.

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Post by Soprano » Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:34 am

Octavia wrote:Hi Soprano,


* my spellcheck somehow turned this into ‘hot cod’. Glad I spotted this, or you might have been very confused....
Just spotted what my spell checker did, but too late to edit "tongue" to "to the"

Thank you for your words of encouragement, I know this will work it's just about getting in the habit :)

I've managed not to snack or fill up on calorific drinks, plenty of tea and water though. I avoided alcohol until last night and stuck to two glasses of red wine.

Out for a meal tonight but I intend being sensible and just enjoying the meal and drink without excess
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Post by Octavia » Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:59 pm

Enjoy the meal! :)

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Post by oolala53 » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:33 pm

I've seen Habitcal in a post only rarely. I'm curious, too. Maybe you can browse and ask someone who has it.

Hope you had a nice meal.
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Post by Soprano » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:42 am

Meal was lovely thanks, we missed dessert as it was getting busy and noisy. Portions were not over large so I didn't feel I'd overeaten. I'm not good at leaving food on my plate but am working on it :D

Hope you had a good weekend
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Post by Soprano » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:57 am

Feeling really good :)

I am absolutely convinced this way of eating will work and to date have lost 2.5lbs. I have achieved my first goal weight. They are small goals but I would rather this and know I can achieve them than look at a large loss that feels like I'll never get there, onwards to the next.

Anyone reading this unsure if it will work, I promise it will and it brings with it a sense of freedom. I have tried many diets over the years, granted I have lost but the weight goes on again. I stopped dieting some years ago and tried intuitive eating and maintained well for a while but changes in lifestyle and stress eating have caused me to gain weight over the last 3 years, albeit slowly and I just find I can't lose it with IE alone. Plus sometimes it's hard work deciding if I'm hungry etc etc........

So as I hit those menopausal years I am determined to halt the weight gain and lose that extra stone I'm carrying but in a sensible maintainable way
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Post by beginagain » Sat Apr 14, 2018 2:27 pm

You're an encouragement! Keep going and I'm believing you will make this your lifestyle. 🌅

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Post by Soprano » Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:05 pm

beginagain wrote:You're an encouragement! Keep going and I'm believing you will make this your lifestyle. 🌅
Thank you, I am hoping so :)
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Post by Soprano » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:28 pm

If anybody is struggling with this I can't recommend the use of the habitcal highly enough.

I'm actually coping quiet well with the NoS system but today I got home really hungry and had to walk the dog and wanted to wash my car before eating. I decided on a mod early on and that was no starvation thereby allowing for a small snack if I was desperately hungry and I mean fainting/gnawing hunger....

So I had a few nuts and walked the dog, I was still hungry as the nuts took the edge off but the walk was long. It was only the thought of not being able to mark today green that kept me on track. I actually don't think I would have jeopardised any weight loss by another snack but I didn't want to risk my commitment.

So if you haven't already, start a habitcal :)
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Post by oolala53 » Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:43 am

May I ask what percentage of your weight was your first goal loss? tx
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Post by Soprano » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:52 am

Interesting question, I hadn't thought of it in those terms. It's 1.9% :)

I just wanted to see any number under 11stone

My next goal is 10 stone with a single number for lbs so 10st 9 or less :)
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Post by oolala53 » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:08 pm

I asked because so often people aren't willing to shoot for small amounts in steps when they really should because it's so much more realistic!. Also, when someone says, "I lost 2/5/10 lbs., it seems like it would make a difference about its significance if the person started at 150 lbs. or 250. That sounds contradictory and it is! Just my quirky voyeurism.

Also because for health reasons, losing even 5% has been shown to net the greatest gains. Obesity researchers are ecstatic when a person loses and maintains 10% because it actually happens so rarely. They are not expecting nearly anyone to get to a normal BMI, even though that is what so many hold over their own heads. Which makes me think it's much smarter to set modest goal weights in stages. Some researchers think it's even smart to stop and settle at certain weights and stabilize there for a few months before cutting food a little more. That often happens anyway and people get discouraged and go back to eating more.

Ok, I'm going on and on. Enjoy the process and get your greens before the weekend! :)
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Post by Soprano » Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:11 pm

You make a lot of good valid points. I agree small incremental steps is the way (weigh :) ) to go. The advice about maintaining along the way is good too.

I haven't an end weight in mind or a series of goals I'll decide each one as I go. But they won't ever be more than 4 or 5lbs.

I think it will be slow progress but the alternative is quick losses and regain which I really don't want to do.

I feel I have found a way to eat to lose slowly and maintain so I'm sticking with it :)
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Post by ladybird30 » Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:32 am

I have been at the same weight for several months now. I don't feel discouraged. Why? I recognise that I am still overeating at meals some times, so I have further work to do in becoming truly moderate with my eating. A plateau at this weight is far preferable to past quick rebounds from overeating. And I am still optimistic that eventually I will lose some more of the weight that has settled around my middle.
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Post by idontknow » Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:32 pm

If anybody is struggling with this I can't recommend the use of the habitcal highly enough
I agree - I am a sucker for a star chart and those green squares are very motivating! I love to log the exercise and calories burnt on my watch for the same reason. I have no idea how accurate it is, but meeting a goal every day is very motivating. :D

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Post by oolala53 » Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:30 pm

Especially a behavior goal, which you can pretty much make nearly every day, instead of the infernal scale, which is measuring something you have only about 30% control over, and even then, it's sketchy because you can't be sure you have all the right data!
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Post by Soprano » Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:01 am

Wise words, end of the week got difficult as I jumped on the scales and haven't lost anything this week. I've been hungry before all my meals so was really expecting a loss. I know all the stuff about variations in weight blah blah but still really wanted to see a loss. It was the habitcal that stopped me overeating last night.

New day and the weekend and I am feeling more relaxed so will not be going silly but will have what I fancy :)

Happy weekend all
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Post by Dalia negra » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:44 pm

Courage Soprano! The same thing happened to me and the simple habit saved me from binge eating. I could not imagine eating without stopping until I was very uncomfortable and with abdominal pain. Simply, this is not for me now! But I also need to recognize that those moments in which the scale does not move are very frustrating ...

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Post by Soprano » Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:06 pm

Thank you :)
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Post by Soprano » Mon May 28, 2018 6:01 am

I am managing to stick to only weighing once or twice a week I do it on consecutive days to allow for any daily fluctuations. A little disappointed it has gone up a bit but oddly my body fat percentage has dropped. I've decided to take a few body measurements too so that my only focus isn't the scales.

I have been walking the dog an extra 3 miles almost daily so perhaps the gain is muscle!

Pretty much sticking to the plan. In fact my sister commented on the fact I have a box of chocolates and Easter egg in the house that have been there since March.
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Post by beginagain » Mon May 28, 2018 8:54 pm

Glad to see you're doing well with No S and walking!

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Post by Soprano » Tue May 29, 2018 4:47 am

beginagain wrote:Glad to see you're doing well with No S and walking!
Thank you :)
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Post by Soprano » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:33 pm

Not updated for a while, I've been sticking to the plan for a good few weeks now, S days are getting more moderate without any real commitment to make them so.

I am always hungry by my mealtimes which I think can only be good. Of late I've been disappointed with a lack of reduction in weight but hopped on the scales this morning and they were the lowest they have been so far, however my weight does seem to fluctuate from week to week but if it is slowly going I'm happy.

I was considering IF to give me a boost and help with the loss but I think having seen a slight reduction I might wait a little longer :)
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Post by Soprano » Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:41 am

On holiday this week so have relaxed a little, stuck to 3 meals yesterday except for a piece of fruit. We are eating buffet style so plates are a little uncontrolled :)
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Post by lpearlmom » Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:06 am

Sounds like you’re doing well for being on vacation.

Enjoy!
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Post by Soprano » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:04 am

We got home Saturday afternoon, I haven't weighed myself as I know sometimes it can be high after a holiday but will do again after a week of normal eating.

I've done a bit of reading re IF and also read the diet myth by Tim Spector whilst I was away which was enlightening.

I am going to use the habitcal this week to ensure I get back on track.

Happy July everyone
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Post by lpearlmom » Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:38 pm

Smart not to weigh just yet!

Are you thinking of starting IF?
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Post by Soprano » Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:59 pm

Hi Linda

Yes I'm considering IF but as much for the health benefits as weight loss. I want to get my NOS back on track first, I didn't go silly whilst away but lost the three meals a day to two meals and snacks. Oh and plenty of wine!

I'll probably start with 16:8 but not necessarily every day, I'll wait a couple of weeks. I don't want to do it and lose the good habits
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Post by nettee » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:32 pm

Hello, just reading through your thread. Well done for getting back on habit after your holiday.

Good luck with intermittent fasting if you try it. Have you done it before?
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Post by Soprano » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:49 am

Whoop! I braved the scales this morning and I am a smidgeon lighter than before I went away.

I did decide to miss breakfast yesterday, mainly because I felt quite full from the day before I had a large rice salad for lunch and it seemed to lay heavy. I can't say it was a true IF as I drank tea with milk and had a glass of Kefir.

All in all feeling back on track and in control.

I had my thyroid checked as my losses have been slow compared to what I think they should have been but suspect this is down to my age. I have heard many women struggling to lose weight during the menopause transition years and suspect this is my issue and the reason I have gained over the last 2 years so just to stop the gain and slowly reduce is great.

Have a good weekend all
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Post by Soprano » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:17 am

nettee wrote:Hello, just reading through your thread. Well done for getting back on habit after your holiday.

Good luck with intermittent fasting if you try it. Have you done it before?
Thanks

Re fasting I did a week in college once and have missed the occasional breakfast. I am going to tread very carefully with it. I believe there are health benefits other than weight loss but don't want to upset my moderate habits which in the long run will ensure I don't have a rebound affect.
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Post by Dalia negra » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:15 pm

I'm glad to read that you're doing well. I think intermittent fasting is a great practice, but it needs to start gradually. My goal is also to get there, but in a long time, probably :)

I am also glad of your weight loss :D

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Post by Soprano » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:52 am

The dress I wore yesterday was definitely looser than a few weeks ago.

I missed breakfast too as I wanted to try a 16:8 fast. It wasn't too painful and I ate as I normally would afterwards.

Normal nos today though :)
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Post by lpearlmom » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:05 pm

Yay on the looser dress and nice job on the skipping breakfast. It usually takes ppl a couple of weeks to adjust to an IF schedule but NoS helps prepare us.

Keep up the great job!
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Post by Soprano » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:11 pm

Thanks for the encouragement it's appreciated, might skip breakfast again tomorrow :)
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Post by Soprano » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:53 am

Feeling pretty happy this morning. I popped on the scales and I've reached my second mini goal.

I missed breakfast again yesterday as part of trying out IF. I have my evening meal around six and might have a cup of tea with milk round 8 but then clean fast until midday.

I'm taking it slowly with the fasting. Nos doesn't feel at all like dieting but I'm concerned fasting might. Normal eating today :)
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Post by lpearlmom » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:03 am

Yay on your mini goal! 🎉🥂

I’m glad you’re taking it slowly with the fasting. It doesn’t feel like a diet to me at all. I guess because it brings me so much pleasure and something I plan to continue for life. I could see doing more of a 16/8 in maintenance though. It’s just so dang good for us.

I look forward to seeing where you go with this. It doesn’t t even have to be everyday to get the benefits. Dr. Fung just does it a few times a week when it works good with his schedule.

Either way, you’re doing great!

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Thanks Linda and for introducing me to IF, even when I was sceptical about it. I hadn't appreciated the health benefits until I started reading more about it :)

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Post by eschano » Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:11 am

Hiya, how’s it going soprano?
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Post by Soprano » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:26 am

eschano wrote:Hiya, how’s it going soprano?
I'm good thanks,. Just been away for a week with my sister. We had a great time and walked miles.

Most days we only had a couple of meals but did consume some wine, she wanted to do a gin tasting too which was interesting.

I never weigh straight after a holiday but things were heading in the right direction before we went so I'm hopeful they have continued to.

How are things with you?

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Post by eschano » Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:53 am

Oh brilliant! I had a similar experience on my holidays just now. It is funny how I can eat more on holidays but don’t gain.
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Post by lpearlmom » Sat Aug 25, 2018 4:55 am

Glad you’re still around. Your trip sounds fun!
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Post by Soprano » Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:54 am

lpearlmom wrote:Glad you’re still around. Your trip sounds fun!
Thanks, it was great to spend time with my sister, we had some laughs and made lots of memories.

Weight still very slowly going down so I'm happy. I've started adding some fasting periods and haven't found them too difficult. I'm feeling pretty relaxed about it all and using NOs as my default position.

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Post by automatedeating » Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:27 pm

NoS is the perfect default position. Then we can adjust our lifestyle and needs around it, but it is always the moderator, holding us to "sane" habits, despite the cray-cray around us!
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Post by worth it » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:07 am

Soprano,

Love the relaxed attitude you have about No S mixed with a little fasting here and there. I especially enjoy reading about these scenarios as I think that this has been a reason for your continued success. Thanks for the update!

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Post by Soprano » Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:37 pm

Thanks all for stopping by, it's appreciated :)

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Post by Soprano » Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:30 am

Had to post this today, I've been feeling a little stressed and down over a few things of late but unlike in the past have not used food to cope so I'm really pleased with that.

I've pretty much got down to weighing once a week but just sometimes I hop on the scales a day early, which I did today.

10lbs down now in total from when I started late March. :)

The great thing is I know even if the scales hadn't produced such a good result I would have been able to brush it off and not let it impact on my eating other than maybe make me more determined to stick with the plan.

I'm half a pound off my 3rd mini goal now.

I haven't got an end weight in sight I just set mini goals, relax and wait. So far it is working. My loss hasn't been fast and it was very up and down in the beginning.

I have learnt to live with hunger and not once felt deprived or as though I'm missing out.

If you are doubting this will work for you, know that it will..... :)
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Post by lpearlmom » Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:51 am

Yay! What a great lost. Congrats on the 10 lbs as well as your new ability to cope without food. Such a good feeling isn’t it!?

I love your relaxed attitude. Keep on keeping on.
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Post by Soprano » Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:39 am

Thanks Linda.

I enjoy my food so much more when I'm truly hungry.

It's great how Nos relaxes you into that. Whenever I've been on other diets because of the restrictions on how much or what I could eat I always wanted to eat more and never felt satisfied.

With intuitive eating I was never sure if I was hungry or not. Now I've learnt to sit with hunger and because of reading about IF have a better understanding of how insulin plays a part. :)

It's been an interesting journey and I think I found Nos when I was ready to pull it altogether

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Post by Octavia » Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:34 pm

Great to hear of your success, Soprano!

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Post by Soprano » Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:34 pm

Thank you :)
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Post by Soprano » Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:48 am

Reached my 3rd mini goal this week, a week after a week's holiday and 2 days of 16hr fasting.

Really pleased with how embedded my nos habits are. I don't feel any temptation for cakes at work anymore.

Keep going everyone, it might be slow but persistence pays.

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Post by automatedeating » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:46 pm

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Post by lpearlmom » Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:59 am

Hope all is still going well and thx for stopping by my thread!
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Post by Soprano » Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:10 am

I'm good thanks. Work has got really busy and I'm concerned about the impact of stress on weightloss. Dark nights drawing in leave less time for good walks too.

Still on plan though :)

Thanks for popping in

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Post by Soprano » Sat Oct 06, 2018 5:13 am

Interesting day on Wednesday I was on a course at a local hotel they are renowned for putting out nice cakes and pastries at coffee break. In the past I've been ok about ignoring them but this week one caught my eye so I thought blow it I'll have it.

I ate it and really tasted it as sometimes things don't taste as nice as I expect so I was prepared to leave it. It tasted good though so I ate it all. I wasn't particularly hungry when I ate it either.

I know in the past if I had been on a diet that would have been the end of it, I would have started eating everything I thought I'd been deprived of, but not this time.

I was straight back on plan and decided as I didn't attend these courses often it could just be an s day, not that I'm marking them anymore. However it didn't matter if it was a red day. The main thing is I'm eating like a normal person.

I saw something I fancied enjoyed it and moved on without it affecting my day.

Oh and last week the scales jumped up for no reason but this week were back down despite the cake :)

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Post by oolala53 » Sat Oct 06, 2018 3:24 pm

Seems to me you are doing really well. You are certainly in a better place with sweets than I was at the same point and maybe even now! So nice to hear it. I went back to the beginning of your thread. You were struggling a bit (I feared for you) and then it shifted. It seems the book and HabitCal were real boosts. But you also experienced the other physical and mental rewards; without those, we won't last long. The truth is not everyone will feel them to a strong enough degree that it will make sense to keep going. I don't think I would have earlier in life and certainly not when I was sure that getting rid of my fat thighs was a matter of life and death and everything else would be tolerable if it could somehow be easy to eat in a way to be thin.

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Post by Soprano » Sat Oct 06, 2018 4:27 pm

I think the point about not accepting this way of eating earlier in life is really valid. I wish I could talk to my 20+ self and encourage her to adopt these habits but unfortunately all I can hope is these posts might help another youngster :)

Re the sweet things, I think I had done the work around that before Nos. I read a lot of books re IE and emotional eating and knew sweets didn't solve those problems, I also knew and understood that depriving myself of them really made me want them more so I had been living quite a while with permission to eat whatever I wanted when I wanted. The problem was I didn't always want them and didn't understand hunger as the slightest twinge and I would eat.

With Nos it just clicked that if I ate less of certain foods and stuck to the plan I could actually lose weight. I made a conscious choice to eat in a way that meant I had good nutritious food most days and limited when I ate sweets or snacks.

I've nearly always prepared meals from scratch so I didn't have to change shopping or cooking habits. For a long time I have avoided foods that aren't "natural" and if I'm honest a lot of food that we turn to when stressed or upset, when I stop and really taste it I really don't like. Acknowledging that made a big difference but you have to go through the process.

Why would I want to put that in my body when I can have food that tastes really good. I always use full fat and full sugar (when it's an S Day) no fat or sugar substitutes.

In fact I would challenge anyone take something you eat as diet food, low fat loaded with sugar or sugar substitutes e.g. low fat yoghurt, low fat spread, or some cheap chocolate. Then compare it with a full fat yoghurt or high quality chocolate...….

Really taste it, let me know what you think :)

Interesting that you feared for me Oolala53. The thing is, we can tell people our story but they have to go through the process themselves and realise it for themselves otherwise they are just following another diet.

The great thing about NOs is, it leads you on the right path to those findings.

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Post by automatedeating » Sat Oct 06, 2018 5:10 pm

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Post by oolala53 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:53 am

My sweet thing had gone way beyond its being for emotional reasons. I was just full on hooked, and probably still am, to some degree. I would eat 20 oz. of chocolate plus other sweets in a weekend when I first started. I would never have made it if I thought I'd have to limited myself to a piece of cake or something. I guess some people think it's a miracle I ever got it under any control when I was so wild. But I actually never thought it meant I would go back to that old life.
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Post by sharon227 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:22 pm

We're given such terrible signals in American culture: these foods are "bad," those foods are "virtuous". Add in the ridiculous female body images that are glorified, and it's no wonder many of us have an unhealthy relationship with food.

I wish I could remember where I read about a survey of American and French women, and their attitudes about food. When French women were presented with the phrase "chocolate cake", it brought to mind enjoyment. For American women, the word that came to mind was "guilt." How sad is that?

I am trying very hard to enjoy calorie-dense foods in small amounts. As a nutritionist told me: If you really want a cookie, have a cookie! Just not the whole bag. Or one of those mall-chain cookies that are a zillion calories. But not some poor "diet" substitute that won't satisfy. I've eaten most of a box of cookies when I was younger. Would like to think I'm finally beyond that now!

Although I will say that I absolutely *love* Fage 2%yogurt. Technically "low fat," but it's creamy and tasty and great. Having that with some fresh fruit for breakfast or lunch is a treat for me.

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Post by oolala53 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:24 pm

The traditional French are more likely to think of big portions as bad, as well as fast food and shiny-packaged snacks. And not savoring food. Things, sadly, are changing.
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Post by ladybird30 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:26 am

Soprano wrote:
Why would I want to put that in my body when I can have food that tastes really good. I always use full fat and full sugar (when it's an S Day) no fat or sugar substitutes.

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Perhaps slightly off the point, but as a reward for passing up the commercial ice cream on the weekend, I bought a small pot of really good quality cream & had it with a punnet of raspberries as a treat. Really delicious.
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Post by Soprano » Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:21 pm

ladybird30 wrote:
Soprano wrote:
Why would I want to put that in my body when I can have food that tastes really good. I always use full fat and full sugar (when it's an S Day) no fat or sugar substitutes.

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Perhaps slightly off the point, but as a reward for passing up the commercial ice cream on the weekend, I bought a small pot of really good quality cream & had it with a punnet of raspberries as a treat. Really delicious.
Perfectly on point, good for you :)

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Post by automatedeating » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:18 pm

I agree - perfectly on point and sounds heavenly.
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Post by Soprano » Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:08 pm

Scales at their lowest since starting. They go up and down but the general trend is down so feeling good!

Inches are coming off and clothes feel looser. I don't feel deprived so all is good.

Have a great weekend :)

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Post by Octavia » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:28 pm

Ooh, that’s always a great feeling, the scales being at their lowest! Hurrah, and here’s to more No S success!

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Post by lpearlmom » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:50 am

So happy to hear things going so well for you Soprano! How often do you weigh?
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Post by nancys » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:59 pm

What a great feeling when the scales are at their lowest! Great job Soprano!

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Post by Soprano » Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:26 pm

lpearlmom wrote:So happy to hear things going so well for you Soprano! How often do you weigh?
I try to stick to weighing once a week but if I know my eating might abnormally impact on it I occasionally change the day.

Trying to stay relaxed about it. It's not really changed much this month, been up and down but it's going the right way so I'm not unhappy.

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Delighted to see it is going well!
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Post by Soprano » Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:03 pm

eschano wrote:Delighted to see it is going well!
Thank you

I got weighed yesterday and today this week just to see how much variation there was. It seems I have lost a lb overnight :)

Now I know with fluctuations that isn't exactly true but I always figure you can't weigh what isn't there but you can sometimes end up weighing more for no obvious reason so happy to accept another lb lost

Have a great weekend all

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Another pound down, that's great!

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Post by lpearlmom » Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:48 pm

Yay for another pound down! I really haven’t lost anything for 6 months. I think it’s time to admit it’s game over for me.
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Post by ladybird30 » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:15 am

lpearlmom wrote:Yay for another pound down! I really haven’t lost anything for 6 months. I think it’s time to admit it’s game over for me.
You mean you have maintained a forty pound weight loss for 6 months? Congrats.
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Post by lpearlmom » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:55 am

Ladybird: 55 lbs actually and thank yiu for that. â˜ºï¸ I actually decided to just celebrate my success and take a break from the weight loss game. Sometimes it’s just good enough.
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Post by alene1 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:37 pm

Soprano, I'm really enjoying your journal. I'm also really enjoying IF and feel it's helping me to see that a bit of hunger isn't an emergency! :)

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Post by rebeccam » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:07 pm

Soprano wrote:Just want to say hi and that I am commiting to starting this way of writing today :D
Just starting my weight loss journey today. The results in this thread are impressive and quite motivating for newbies like me.
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Soprano wrote:Just want to say hi and that I am commiting to starting this way of eating today :D
Just starting my weight loss journey today. The results in this thread are impressive and quite motivating for newbies like me.
So pleased if I've helped, good luck and do ask for help if needed everyone is really supportive.

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Post by Soprano » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:59 am

Whoop. Had a really stressful time at work this past couple of weeks but have not turned to food.

The odd glass of wine maybe :)

But I have now lost a stone since starting and am 1/2 a pound off my 4th mini goal.

Best start planning my next goal.

Hope you are all doing well

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Are your goals like 5 pound increments or something like that?
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automatedeating wrote:Are your goals like 5 pound increments or something like that?
No quite random :)

Under 11st
10st 9lbs
10st 6lbs
10st 2lbs. So close

Next will probably be under 10 st

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Post by Soprano » Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:07 am

My scales measure in .2 of a pound and today read 10.2.8 so that's another mini goal reached.

I think I'll aim for under 10st next. Given its winter, I'm not walking like I was and Christmas is looming I'll be more than happy to maintain this until Jan.

Back in March when I started nos I was at a real low about my weight. In some ways it feels like it was so easy but there have been difficulties I think I was just mentally in the right place to deal with them.

This can and does work but depending where you are on your journey you have to be prepared to make changes and accept setbacks as part of your learning but most of all stick with the plan.

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Post by lpearlmom » Fri Nov 23, 2018 3:20 pm

You’re doing great! NoS only worked for me to a point. I definitely had to take things up a notch to drop the weight but it helped me keep it off for sure.
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Post by Soprano » Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:14 pm

lpearlmom wrote:You’re doing great! NoS only worked for me to a point. I definitely had to take things up a notch to drop the weight but it helped me keep it off for sure.
I know, the weight I'm at now is the low end of where I've spent my adult life. In all honesty if it stays here I'll be happy now.

I'm curious to see how much lower it might go though I'm at the top end of healthy for my height so it would be nice to drop a bit more :)

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Post by automatedeating » Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:24 am

Maintenance is a journey, too......and in some ways it is the marathon, whereas the weight loss can be considered more of a sprint.....haha. And both events have hurdles, mudpits, and barbed wire obstacles. :lol:
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Post by Soprano » Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:32 am

automatedeating wrote:Maintenance is a journey, too......and in some ways it is the marathon, whereas the weight loss can be considered more of a sprint.....haha. And both events have hurdles, mudpits, and barbed wire obstacles. :lol:
Love that analogy :)

Jx
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Post by oolala53 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:25 am

Whatever is sustainable and brings pleasure is where it's at in my book.

Getting ready to "run the rapids" of the holidays. Not gaining is a boon.
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 9 years & counting
Age 65
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
Mar/18 22.2

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