Simmstone's 'Obsessive Moderation'

Counting carbs/calories is a drag. Obsessive scale stepping is a recipe for despair. If you want to count something, "days on habit" is a much better metric. Checking off days on a calendar would do just fine, but if you do it here you get accountability and support. Here's how. Start a new topic in this forum called (say) "Your Name Daily Check In." Then every N day post a "reply" to that topic as to whether you stayed on habit. A simple "<font color="green">SUCCESS</font>" or "<font color="red">FAILURE</font>" (or your preferred euphemism if that's too harsh) is sufficient, but obviously you're welcome to write more if you want. On S-days just register that you're taking an S-day. You don't have to do this forever, just until you're confident you've built the habit. Feel free to check in weekly or monthly or sporadically instead of daily. Feel free also to track other habits besides No-s (I'm keeping this forum under No-s because that's what the vast majority are using it for). See also my <a href="/habitcal/">HabitCal</a> tool for another more formal (and perhaps complementary) way to track habits.

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oolala53
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Post by oolala53 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:35 pm

Great news.
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 9 years & counting
Age 65
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
Mar/18 22.2

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.

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Post by simmstone » Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:57 pm

Thanks, oolala!
"No S is such a good way to combat the randomness, which is often the slide into more and more." - oolala53

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Re: October 2018

Post by simmstone » Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:05 am

October 2018

Notes: I am still finishing the last of 4 consecutive 21 day challenges, but not really noting that here. At this point, I no longer need them, really - I have truly made the transition to having No S as my 'default, don't even think about it' behavior. I am really loving the ease and effortlessness around my eating habits/thoughts right now!!

Weigh in will happen on the last Friday or Saturday morning of each month, or first Friday or Saturday of the following month (about every 4-5 weeks).

Mon, 10/1 - Success
Tues, 10/2 - Success, Weight Training (Chest, Biceps)
Wed, 10/3 - Success, Weight Training (Back, Triceps)
Thurs, 10/4 - Success
Fri, 10/5 - Failure
Sat 10/6 - S DAY
Sun 10/7 - S DAY
Mon, 10/8 - Success, Weight Training (Chest, Biceps)
Tues, 10/9 - Success, Walking (3 miles)
Wed, 10/10 - Success, Weight Training (Back, Shoulders, Triceps)
Thurs, 10/11 - Success, Walking (4 miles), weight: 234
Note: This is the end of my 12 week No S challenge and it went great! I'm going to take a vacation for the next 12 days, and will return to No S when I get back.

Fri, 10/12 - Sun, 10/28 - VACATION - S and NWS DAYS

Vacation is over. Ready to get back at it! 8)

Mon, 10/29 - Success
Tues, 10/30 - Success, Weight Training (Chest, Biceps)
Wed, 10/31 - NWS Day
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Post by oolala53 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:15 am

Lovely to hear it.
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 9 years & counting
Age 65
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
Mar/18 22.2

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.

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Post by ladybird30 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:34 am

Glad to see that your are doing well.
Three meals a day - not too little not too much, but just right

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November 2018

Post by simmstone » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:47 pm

November 2018

Notes: Mid-October through the end of December is always a challenging time of year for me to think about weight loss, so I'm not even contemplating that. My simple goal, now, is to maintain 80% No S compliance during the remaining holiday season, take a break from journaling (just use HabitCal) and then I'll consider starting another 12 week No S challenge from January - March (which always tends to be a period of the year where my No S compliance is excellent).
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Post by oolala53 » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:30 pm

I agree with your outlook.
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 9 years & counting
Age 65
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
Mar/18 22.2

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.

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January 2019

Post by simmstone » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:15 pm

January 2019

I really enjoyed the holidays!

I took the month of December 'off' from being too strict with No S rules. I wasn't worried too about gaining weight over the holidays... I knew that I probably would. My goals were to relax, have fun, and just be somewhat reasonable in my eating (i.e. No binge eating, and I didn't eat EVERY Christmas cookie offered to me, but I enjoyed the ones that looked the best during the occasions where it felt appropriate). In my experience, allowing myself freedom during the holidays helps with my compliance during the 11 other months of the year. I have no doubt that I will get right back to No S - ironically, I'm ready to have some general guidelines again as I find 'free-range- eating far less satisfying than I used to.

Onward to 2019 and another year of successful moderation!

Tues, 1/1 - NWS Day
Wed, 1/2 - Failure
Th, 1/3 - Success
Fri, 1/4 - Success
Sat, 1/5 and Sun 1/6 - S Days
Mon, 1/7 - Success
Tues, 1/8 - Success
Wed, 1/9 - Success
Th, 1/10 - Success
Fri, 1/11 - Failure
Sat 1/12 & Sun 1/13 - S Days
Mon, 1/14 - Success
Tues, 1/15 - Success
Wed, 1/16 - Failure
Th, 1/17 - Failure
Fri, 1/18 - Success
Sat 1/19 & Sun 1/20 - S Days
Mon, 1/21 - NWS Day
Tues, 1/22 - Success
Wed, 1/23 - Success
Th, 1/24 - Success
Fri, 1/25 - Success
Sat 1/26 & Sun 1/27 - S Days
Mon, 1/28 - NWS Day (my birthday... had one piece of cake :D )
Tues, 1/29 - Success
Wed, 1/30 - Success
Th, 1/31 - Success
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Post by Soprano » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:55 pm

I was quite relaxed over the festive period and only gained a small amount being am now keen to get back in routine.

Good luck

Jx
Never give up on a dream just because of the time it will take to accomplish it. The time will pass anyway.

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Post by simmstone » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:49 pm

Thanks, Soprano! Good luck to you, as well!
"No S is such a good way to combat the randomness, which is often the slide into more and more." - oolala53

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February 2019

Post by simmstone » Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:59 pm

February 2019

It was nice to get back into the swing of things in January, though the month was far from perfect.

Now, on to February and even better compliance than last month!

Fri 2/1: Success
Sat 2/2 & Sun 2/3: S Days
Mon 2/4: Success
Tues 2/5: Success
Wed 2/6: Success
Thurs 2/7: Success
Fri 2/8: Success
Sat 2/9 & Sun 2/10: S Days
Mon 2/11: Success
Tues 2/12: Success
Wed 2/13: Success
Thurs 2/14: Success
Fri 2/15: Fail
Sat 2/16 & Sun 2/17: S Days
Mon 2/18: Success
Tues 2/19: Success
Wed 2/20: Success
Thurs 2/21: Success
Fri 2/22:
Sat 2/23 & Sun 2/24: S Days
Mon 2/25:
Tues 2/26:
Wed 2/27:
Thurs 2/28:
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Re: Simmstone's 'Obsessive Moderation'

Post by Whosonfirst » Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:50 pm

I wish my Feb. looked that good. Nice going.
Weekly goal = Five Green days in a row. I do a BMI check by looking in a mirror.
Orig. SW(7/2016)= 226/ SW(reboot) =217-3/7/18/
Current Wt= 210 -8/18

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Re: Simmstone's 'Obsessive Moderation'

Post by simmstone » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:27 am

Thanks, Whosonfirst.

January was tougher than I thought it would be, and February has been a bit easier... I think so many years of No S have taught me to just keep going and know that there will be ups and downs.

The big switch for me happened about mid-way through last year, when it seemed I finally just started enjoying the process of NO S, rather than focusing on any kind of results (weight loss). Since then, compliance has been easier because I actually get more pleasure out of eating when I am compliant with eating 3 plates per day than when I’m not. It turns out that pleasure (as Reinhard noted in the No S book) has been the best motivator that I’ve encountered for sticking to No S.

Wishing you much success in the remainder of February and beyond!
"No S is such a good way to combat the randomness, which is often the slide into more and more." - oolala53

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Re: Simmstone's 'Obsessive Moderation'

Post by automatedeating » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:49 pm

It turns out that pleasure (as Reinhard noted in the No S book) has been the best motivator that I’ve encountered for sticking to No S.
Great point.
Month/Year-BMI
8/13-26.3; 8/14-24.5; 5/15-26.2; 1/16-26.9; 9/16-25.6; 8/17-25.8; 11/17-26.9; 3/18-25.6; 8/18-24.5; 10/18-23.8; 1/19-23.4; 2/19-22.7

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Re: Simmstone's 'Obsessive Moderation'

Post by margot17 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:57 pm

I agree, great point.

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