FAO: Reinhard / Oolala

[Mustloseweight]

Hi Both and all readers,

I hope everyone is well. I send you peace, health and happiness.

I have a question! I know that No S frowns upon ‘diet’ foods, but how do you view non-diet but reduced fat products?

I need to cut down my fat intake, that is a given: not drastically but just because the fat in margarine and cheese for example is really high and not heart healthy fats. Now I have Angina, I need to really up the Anti.

If cheese can be gotten with 30% reduced fat, making it 40% fat per 100g rather than 70% fat per 100g this is not eliminating fat in a ‘diet’ mentality but a healthy choice? 40% fat per 100g is still a high fat food to be consumed in moderation and not daily even at the reduced level.

There are a lot of dairy products that are not full of chemicals just made with semi skimmed milk rather than whole milk. Which leads me to ask is a switch to semi-skimmed milk over whole because you like it more in how your tea and coffee tastes ok? Whole milk in tea is a bit

Thanks guys.

Anne

[automatedeating]

Well! You only wanted to hear from Reinhard and Oolala? Ouch.

Anyway, I will answer your question - you can choose whatever foods you want for your 3 meals a day! People on here choose vegetarian, they choose omnivore, some avoid dairy, some avoid eggs, some avoid alcohol. I don't see your cheese choice any different. I specifically choose whole-fat everything and I would never consider that a "diet-food choice", despite that I have to read labels carefully to make sure I'm not accidentally getting low-fat products! Basically the reverse of what you are wanting to do!

Put whatever you want in your coffee!

[Mustloseweight]

Dear Automated Eating,

Sorry, it wasn’t an exclusive question, I just wanted the answer to be the “official’ answer so to speak.

Automated Eating you have done very very well. “Well done!” You must be overjoyed. What was your winning formula?

Thank you for replying.

Anne x

[Over43]

Hi Both and all readers,

I hope everyone is well. I send you peace, health and happiness.

I have a question! I know that No S frowns upon ‘diet’ foods, but how do you view non-diet but reduced fat products?

I need to cut down my fat intake, that is a given: not drastically but just because the fat in margarine and cheese for example is really high and not heart healthy fats. Now I have Angina, I need to really up the Anti.

If cheese can be gotten with 30% reduced fat, making it 40% fat per 100g rather than 70% fat per 100g this is not eliminating fat in a ‘diet’ mentality but a healthy choice? 40% fat per 100g is still a high fat food to be consumed in moderation and not daily even at the reduced level.

There are a lot of dairy products that are not full of chemicals just made with semi skimmed milk rather than whole milk. Which leads me to ask is a switch to semi-skimmed milk over whole because you like it more in how your tea and coffee tastes ok? Whole milk in tea is a bit

Thanks guys.

Anne

I have not read all of the posts and I am not Reinhard or Oolala. But may I suggest you talk to your heart specialist about which foods he/she would suggest would fit best in the No S framework. Particularly since you mentioned you have angina. But may I add, since drinking whole milk, my blood work has improved. Maybe because I eat less when I drink it.

[ChandaLikePanda]

I don't eat low-fat anything, and my heart health is great. I wouldn't touch margarine with a ten foot pole. It's a trans-fat, which means it's something that should be a liquid oil, but with chemistry it was changed to have solid form.

[oolala53]

IMHO, health conditions are good reasons for diets, or food restrictions. No S is not meant to treat health conditions, though some may use it that way. Tradtional eating patterns often prevented problems developing, but there is no data to prove that they cure them, though I'm sure it happens. I've always said that if someone has a health problem, Vanilla may not be enough. Angina certainly qualifies for more dramatic limits, though even those may not be enough, either. What kind of angina is it?

If you think eating reduced fat foods will help prevent or reverse angina, go for it. The evidence on it is sketchy, in my perusals, but I'm not the one trying to make a health change.

Also, be careful because it's easy to eat more of reduced fat products and end up taking in as much as before.

You didn't ask, but I'd find something besides margarine, too. And as few seed oils as possible. And if I had angina, sugar and most bread would be gone or nearly gone because of the association with insulin resistance, and that, I believe is correlated to heart disease.

But I'm not a doctor or nutritionist!

Scroll on these graphs to see interesting data on oils/fats.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/11 ... ern-diet[u][/u]