~reneew wrote:Water comes out of my faucet... pop does not. We have reusable water bottles and I try to plan ahead and always have fresh with us. We rarely drink pop, but when we do, I buy the big 2 liter bottles to limit the plastic or can use, or use my soda fountain which uses none. Just some ideas.

Those are good ideas, and I do pretty much the same at home. (Can work on the reusable bottles a bit more - thanks for the reminder!)
Where I see the difference is traveling - so many times I need to get something to drink and my only choices are from vending machines and convenience stores. At that point, I'm grateful for water in bottles. Yes, it's pretty much tap water and I'm paying a ridiculous price for it, but it's better than not being able to get water
at all, which used to be a real problem for me.
I do think the "individual serving size bottles" - of both water and soda - are an environmental hazard, and wish other options for both were readily available. I just see the two as being morally equivalent in terms of "evil"... I'm not arguing that they
aren't evil!
On another topic, ~reneew, want to thank you again for the December challenge, which really pushed me to clarify my intention for this month. That was a big help.
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On the original holiday sweets topic, another thought... each year, I ask each member of my family what baked items are particularly important to them, and focus my baking around those requests. (My mom had her own list of "what HAD to be baked," and would then complain when no one ate a particular item... ) That way, I can cut down the overall quanitity without anyone really minding very much. (Actually, we do that for all holiday traditions... toward the beginning of the season, in one of our "family meetings," we look at what we did last year and decide what we do and don't want to do this year. So, we've dropped Breakfast with Santa, because the little guy has gotten too big, and added a Christmas concert with friends. Making Keep/Chuck/Change/Create choices in advance helps us just be a little less crazed during the holidays.)